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VikasRaina wrote: Agencies reporting Gun fire and Explosion in Rawalpindi near Army HQ.
10 dead, several hurt in Pindi mosque blasts, firing
Updated at: 1430 PST, Friday, December 04, 2009

RAWALPINDI: At least 10 persons have been killed and several wounded in a mosque locate in Chohar chowk Westridge area in Rawalpindi on Friday.

According to DG ISPR, at least six to seven gunmen entered into Parade Lanes mosque located near Qasim market. They threw hand grenades initially followed by indiscriminate firing. Security forces officials opened retaliatory fire.

Security force cordoned off the roads leading toward the mosque and helicopters are hovering over the affected area.

The injured have been shifted to CMH and other hospitals. Large number of people was present in the mosque when the incident happened. as firing is still going on.
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Mamlakat-e-Khudadad Bahawalpur (which means "God Given Kingdom")
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Cholistan, once known as the land of the lost river Sarasvati, is now being branded as a breeding ground for terrorism and Punjabi Talibans. It is quite ironical that the Saraiki speaking Riasatees of the former Bahawalpur State should be called terrorist or Punjabi talibans, because it is the Punjabis and the outsiders who have pushed them to the edge. To understand the truth of the matter we have to go back to the beginning.

Mamlakat-e-Khudadad Bahawalpur was the only Muslim state of undivided India with a Muslim ruler and a predominantly Muslim population. From 1702 the Nawabs of Bahawalpur had to fight the Rajput chieftains who held sway over the desert forts of Walhar, Phulra, Marot, Maujgarh, Dingarh, Wijnot and Derawar along the bank of the River Sarasvati. Fort Derawar was the last to be conquered from Raja Rawal Rai Singh, in 1759 by Ameer Muhammad Mubarak Khan Abbasi II. Bahawalpur, also known as Baghdad–ul–Jadeed {The New Baghdad}, was established as the capital of the desert state in 1748 by Ameer Muhammad Bahawal Khan I.

The British built three head works: Sulaimanki, Rasool (Pullah Mari) and Punjnad, on the River Sutlej, and developed a canal system to irrigate the fertile but desolate desert. Riasatees , the native population, were mostly involved in sheep, goats, camels and cattle herding, and had very little knowledge about farming. The Ameer of Bahawalpur encouraged the farming families (mostly Arraeens) of Jullundhar and Hushiarpur to purchase farming land in the districts of Bahawalnagar, Bahawalpur and Rahim Yar Khan, at throwaway prices. Abaadkars, the settlers, as they were locally called, sold their small holdings and migrated to Bahawalpur State to purchase much larger areas in an undeveloped virgin land. They worked very hard and turned a desert into a green oasis of cotton, mustard, sugar cane, wheat and vegetables fields, as well as fruit farms of high quality mangoes and citrus.

. . . Even the House of Saud, of Saudi Arabia, received regular financial support from the Ameer of Bahawalpur. . . .

The Ameer of Bahawalpur was a personal friend of Quaid-e-Azam and the first guard of honour presented to Mr. Jinnah as the Governor General of Pakistan was by a contingent of the Bahawalpur State Force. On the 5th of October 1947, Bahawalpur State was the first to accede to Pakistan, unconditionally. In 1955 the state was merged into the province of West Pakistan under the One-Unit Scheme. This was the end of the glorious rule of the Abbasides and the beginning of outside dominance over the local Riasatees.

Unlike the Riasatees , the people of the Punjab had first been under the ruthless rule of the Sikhs, followed by the British Raj, and as such were unaware of that invisible bond of respect between the rulers and the ruled that existed in Bahawalpur. Moreover although the Abaadkars, the settlers, had made a positive contribution in agriculture, but they neither contributed towards nor integrated into the rich culture of Cholistan. Seraiki, the language of the Indus civilization and Sufi Kalam, is the only language, apart from Urdu, to be spoken and understood in all the provinces of Pakistan.

The Punjabi politicians and bureaucrats had little regard for the local sensitivity and culture, and the gap started widening right at the beginning. The demand for a separate Seraikee Suba, Seraikee Province, began way back in 1957-58. The local Riasatees were deprived of jobs, land and business opportunities. Even the Cholistan Development Authority was of no help to the locals. The rich wild life of the area was ruthlessly hunted by Punjabi hunters and Arab Shaikhs. The historic forts were plundered brick by brick by the Rangers to build their barracks. The family feuds of the Nawabs led to the takeover of palaces by the Army. The Riaastees were pushed to the edge and some of them were forced to sell their children as camel jockeys to the rich Arab Shaikhs. The vast land along the border belt was allotted to non- Cholistanis. People in power at the provincial and federal capitals considered Cholistan to be their private fief and distributed, at will, large areas of land for hunting or cultivation. Poverty is the mother of all evils and it is not surprising that the land of the Sufis should turn into a breeding ground of terrorism.
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“I get no sense that we have a Pakistan strategy. We have been talking about offering them a strategic relationship. They don’t seem to want a strategic relationship,” Senator Robert Menendez said at a hearing on Afghanistan convened by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
They have that with their, taller than the mountain and deeper than the oceans friends.
They want the money, they want the equipment, but at the end of the day, they don’t want a relationship that costs them too much,” Menendez said
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Money so they can spend to purchase Chinese armament etc and also purchase houses in Dubai, London and New York. Loot the Americans while you can!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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toll == 39

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 299840.cms

39 dead in terror attack on Pakistan mosque
AGENCIES 3 minutes ago
At least 39 were killed when gunmen stormed a crowded mosque near the military barracks in Pakistan's garrison city of Rawalpindi, detonating bombs and shooting at worshippers
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Toll has crossed 30 - BBC.

The mosque is apparently on Parade ground road and it seems many jernails of terrorist army happen to stay in the same road.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Let me guess that many TSPA biggies pray there and this is targeted at them ( like the strike at the bank where they collect their salaries 2 months back)...

AoA, karma back with full vengeance..
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Folklore sans Froniers - Raza Rumi in TFT
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As we crossed the blood lined Waagah, after three hours of soul-destroying bureaucratic tangles and multiple forms filled in by the guardians of our borders, nothing changed. It was an eerie reminder of how the two Punjabs are but one. The roads were dusty and rural life remains as time-warped as ever. The street vendors were selling dirty, unhygienic food items wrapped in a thick cover of flies; and the money changers and CD-sellers attacked you with a frenzy that one is used to back home.

The road was still called the Grand Trunk Road and the traffic was a little more chaotic than that on the Pakistani side. The over-loaded road space reminded one of the simple fact that India’s population is out of control There is simply an explosion of humanity in all directions. . . My companions and I stood on the roadside waiting for the Sardariji to return. However, the general comment was that the lost side of the Punjab was more developed; and the images of women riding on motorcycles and scooters were simply astounding for first time visitors to India.

Six decades have passed since rivers of blood were unleashed by the tragic events of 1947, where an unnatural division of a territory was imposed by a cabal of self-obsessed politicians of all varieties and faiths, in cahoots with their imperial masters. . . . Punjabis have coped with this trauma rather well. On our side they have captured the entire country, held it to ransom and have not shied away from undermining other nationalities when need be. On the enemy side, they have turned into mega-entrepreneurs, flourishing businessmen across North Indian urban centres and a huge diaspora with lots of money in the Western capitals. . . . The Muslims, of course, have left their saints and shrines in the Hindu kingdom, not to mention traces of a seven-century cohabitation with the Indian gods. {See how even a more moderate and enlightened Pakistani is unable to appreciate the fact that India is not a 'Hindu Kingdom' and Muslims have not left behind anything in India and moved en masse to Pakistan because there is an equal number of Muslims in India as they are in Pakistan even after a frenzied process of procreation in that country just to show that Pakistan was the second largest Muslim nation on earth}

At sunset, we were closer to Chandigarh - city beautiful - a city that had to be built anew to refresh the memories of Lahore. A project that Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru was extremely proud of, Chandigarh became the first prototype, well-planned socialist experiment. It is a shame that five decades later, it is nothing like Lahore, as it still gropes to find an identity and it has turned into a testament of India’s deep-seated inequality across class lines. Having said that, it is a model city, with big boulevards, wide pavements, multiple educational institutions and mercifully, lots of green spaces.

We arrived at Himachal Bhavan, a government owned rest house of sorts built like a socialist castle. Very soon, we merged into the streams of visitors from other countries. The bauls, fakir followers of Lalon Shah in Bengal, the singers from Nepal, Kashmir and dancers from tribes of Bengal and Maharashtra constituted the delightful mosaic of South Asian folk universe {Many brilliant instances of Pakiness comes out here. Chandigarh was built to refresh memories of the loss of Lahore ? No, not at all, sir. And, Chandigarh has turned into a city depicting class lines ? Pray, how ? Again, except for Nepal, the folk artistes are all from different states of India and the author prefers to call them as ' from other countries' ?}

The syncretic roots of our folklore are difficult to miss. As I narrated in my paper on the myths of Indus river that, even today in parts of Sindh, there exists the practice of wrapping the holy Quran in colourful cloth and cradling it, the way Hindus have worshipped the birth of Lord Krishna.

Nehru’s land reform, industrialisation and the spread of education at all levels have made these states distinctly different from their mammoth counterpart: the Pakistani Punjab. A large middle class has transformed the cultural ethos and democratic traditions have ensured that citizen voice is given its due in governance on the Indian side.

Chandigarh, for instance, has an impressive literacy rate of nearly 82% and its per capita income is also the highest for the service sector flourishes here. Guess who can boast of a parha likha Punjab? On the other hand we have a small, populous strip of central Punjab that has the promise of prosperity; otherwise, southern Punjab is the poorest of regions in Pakistan. The barani north is also impoverished with limited citizen services and entitlements. With our indoctrinated India-hatred, we often tend to overlook these developments in our immediate neighbourhood. How come the infidels, those scheming banias and stumbling Sikhs achieve this? A question that must be addressed by us all.

Mr and Mrs Ghuman live in a peaceful house within the university, grow their own vegetables, and are raising two sons who are acquiring state of the art education. I was offered baisan ki mithai, kachorees and barfi with lots of affection for Pakistan and the Punjabis. I did not feel as if I was in a hostile territory and the conversation and its tenor reminded me of my family on this side of the border. Ironically, the same day another former Professor of Chandigarh, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, a son of Chakwal was trading allegations against Pakistan for spreading terrorism. Politics can deplete cultures and destroy common bonds. {Ahh. . . it is all just politics and that is why India 'trades accusations' against Pakistan ? There are no Hafeez Saeeds, Ilyas Kashmiris. Masood Azhars, Khalid Sheikh Mohammeds. Ajmal Kasabs etc ?}

Raza Rumi is a development professional and a writer based in Lahore. He blogs at http://www.razarumi.com and edits Pak Tea House and Lahorenama e-zines
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Terrorists Kill 39 In Pakistan Mosque Attack

The military has imposed a news blackout while the hunt for the remaining gunmen goes on and there are unconfirmed reports of a hostage situation.
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mayo wrote:toll == 39
39 dead in terror attack on Pakistan mosque

At least 39 were killed when gunmen stormed a crowded mosque near the military barracks in Pakistan's garrison city of Rawalpindi, detonating bombs and shooting at worshippers
They could not, of course, be Muslim Pakistanis. No Muslim kills another Muslim, especially in Pakistan. Please wait for sometime before the results of investigation are announced. Mr. Rehman Malik will surely find the culprits who are normally Indian R&AW agents sent in to destabilize Pakistan, as India itself has accepted so in the S-e-S joint statement. They are aided by the Americans and the Jews.
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shravan wrote:Terrorists Kill 39 In Pakistan Mosque Attack

The military has imposed a news blackout while the hunt for the remaining gunmen goes on and there are unconfirmed reports of a hostage situation.
That explains why the mosque near the Cantonment was chosen. Somebody had observed some senior officers, regularly praying there especially Friday prayers. Somehow, the Pakistanis tricked the Taliban last time when they brought in commandos under the guise of negotiations at GHQ and released hostages. This time, they will be more careful, if they have taken hostages. Insha' Allah.
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Greetings to my Pakistani friends. IED Mubarak. Please enjoy the work your brothers did here while you dig out your dead. You know why we are so happy to see you all being blown up. I really don't give a sh1t and I'm laughing. Well definitely celebrate the fulfillment of your Pakistaniyat tonight :P

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery ... =340117087

PS someone please email Zaid Hamid and congratulate him.
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ZH will not be very happy to see his dream of "panipat" & "pakistan radio from delhi" getting shattered day by day... :-)

Is there any way of getting PA split into 2-3 sections (pashtuns,panjabi etc)..TTP leaders should target their attacks to acheive this strategic objective. The pastun part of PA can then happily fight along side of TTP against PA.
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May be OT but worth a read.
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Mastermind of attacks on brigadiers held
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... diers-held

Published: December 03, 2009

ISLAMABAD - Law enforcement agencies have apprehended the alleged mastermind of attacks on serving Army brigadiers in the Federal Capital, sources informed on Wednesday.
The sources further disclosed that the accused was netted by law enforcement agencies when he was driving an
International Committee of Red Cross (ICRC)
vehicle. {A brief search tells me that pakistan has Red Crescent not Cross. Should not make a difference but why would a media org distort names?} They informed that the arrested accused subedar (Retd) Zafar Iqbal had close links with Capt (Retd) Zaidi, owner of the Inter-Risk Security Company. They further disclosed that the accused was the main motivator for recruiting the retired servicemen in the Inter-Risk.
The sources further informed that the accused was the main facilitator of the three terrorist attacks on serving brigadiers, which took place in a period of less than 15 days a couple of month ago.
They said that the detained facilitator had confessed that he played a vital role while attacking army officers as he carried out monitoring activities of serving brigadiers and informed the attackers besides provided them with bikes and weapons. They informed that after all three attacks, Zafar Iqbal facilitated the attackers in fleeing the scene after completing operation by loading their bike on a private vehicle. The sources informed that it was yet to be ascertained whether someone inside the Red Cross{Again the same thing} was involved or the accused used fake number plate of Red Cross vehicles.
Pakistan Red Crescent: http://www.prcs.org.pk/default.asp
List_of_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Societies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Re ... _Societies
Terrorist attacks on military officers: main 'facilitator' arrested
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=9 ... =&supDate=
RECORDER REPORT

ISLAMABAD (December 01 2009): Law enforcement agencies (LEAs) have claimed to have arrested the main facilitator of the three terrorist attacks on military officers in Islamabad with links to foreign agencies. The detained facilitator, Subedar Zaffar Iqbal, a retired junior commissioned officer (JCO of SSG was arrested from G-6 sector of Islamabad, when he was driving an International Committee of Red Cross (ICRC) vehicle with the number plate ICRC 72-31, intelligence sources told Business Recorder on Monday.

They said that Zaffar has admitted that he was the main facilitator of the terrorist attacks on the three Brigadiers of Pakistan Army in Islamabad. He undertook surveillance of the three targets prior to planning the place and timing of the attacks. He subsequently got the terrorists in place, provided them with bike and ammunition, and, after successful completion of the attacks, ensured their getaway by loading the bike on a Hilux pickup, sources said.

Zaffar Iqbal was questioned about the ICRC vehicle, and he failed to give any satisfactory reply as to how he got access to the ICRC vehicle, sources said, adding that the relevant authorities are investigating whether the number plate of the vehicle is genuine or fake.

Concerned citizens in Islamabad are reporting almost daily to Islamabad police about some foreign nationals of western origin who are accused of moving in the capital with fake number plates. However, Islamabad Police and civil administration are helpless to stop them, said an official of Islamabad Police.

He said that some foreigners and their local employees have been accused of using diplomatic vehicles with fake number plates for 'nefarious activities' but the police are being ordered to stop as and when it takes notice of such movement/activities. Dutch diplomats and American diplomat were arrested, along with sophisticated weapons and hi-tech cameras, but were allowed to go after intervention from their diplomatic missions, he added.

Intelligence sources said that Zaffar Iqbal was under surveillance for a long time, and added that during the course of the investigation it was learnt that he was the main motivator for recruiting retired servicemen for 'Xe Services' (previous named Blackwater World-wide), which is operating under cover with Inter-Risk Security company. Sources said that during the investigation it was learnt that Zaffar Iqbal owns three plots in Bahria Town , one of the posh areas of the capital, and three more in Beharia Town in Lahore with several luxury vehicles. He is said to have close links with a top builder and developer of, and is a regular visitor to, Dubai.

Sources said that detained Zaffar Iqbal has close links with Captain (Retd) Zaidi, owner of Inter-Risk Security Agency which was raided on September 19 and a huge cache of unlicensed sophisticated weapons was impounded. Captain Zaidi, a retired officer of SSG was arrested from Islamabad office of his security company.

Inter-Risk security agency is a partner of the Dyncorp, an American contractor company providing logistic support to US forces in Afghanistan Sources said that Zaffar Iqbal retired from SSG in 1989. Sources informed this scribe that the Interior Ministry has taken serious note of the hiring of retired commandos and directed the Inspector General of Islamabad Police to investigate the matter and submit a report in two weeks.
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Zafar Hilaly's Uvacha
The threat posed by the Pakistani Taliban, the Jihadis and al Qaeda to Pakistan, though serious, is not of a magnitude that cannot be contained and rolled back. Indeed that is happening. The American presence in Afghanistan is of no help, rather the contrary. What would help is financial support and access to markets. :rotfl:
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http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... tack-Extra

Two army generals killed in Pakistan mosque attack (Extra) :?:

Two Pakistani two-star generals were among the at least 40 people killed in a militant assault on a mosque in the country's garrison town of Rawalpindi on Friday, media reports said.

The English-language Dawn broadcaster reported that a colonel also died in the attack while several senior military officers, including a former vice army chief, retired general Mohammad Yousuf, were among the injured.
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Pranav wrote:Paks say they have found the guy who was bumping off the brigadiers:
Mastermind of attacks on brigadiers held
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... diers-held
Terrorist attacks on military officers: main 'facilitator' arrested
http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=9 ... =&supDate=
RECORDER REPORT
Of the two report, the Brecorder is full of garbage, which is the case most of the time.
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This is a very unfortunate thing to say here. But the indisputable fact is,
The rule of the thumb is that muslims have killed more muslims than non-muslims have
The irony is that the killers were praying to the same god that the victims were, and they were all doing this for their god.
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^^ Thats disputable. According to Will Durant, it was India that suffered the maximum under Islamic invasions. However you're right, Mohammed used to call the Muslims who sat in their homes and not participated in his raids as 'hypocrites' who will burn in hell. So always the less 'pious' will be legitimate targets of the 'more pious'. This is an irony thats not understood both by many muslims and non muslims.
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The strike on the Rawalpindi Mosque today was quite an emphatic demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan.

Among the causalities are Major General Bilal Omar Khan and the son of Corps Commander Peshawar who are both dead. Former Vice Chief of Army Staff, General (Retd) Mohammad Yousuf is among the injured.

Top Pak army officials under attack
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sunilUpa wrote:Toll has crossed 30 - BBC.

The mosque is apparently on Parade ground road and it seems many jernails of terrorist army happen to stay in the same road.
shravan wrote:http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... tack-Extra

Two army generals killed in Pakistan mosque attack (Extra) :?:

Two Pakistani two-star generals were among the at least 40 people killed in a militant assault on a mosque in the country's garrison town of Rawalpindi on Friday, media reports said.

The English-language Dawn broadcaster reported that a colonel also died in the attack while several senior military officers, including a former vice army chief, retired general Mohammad Yousuf, were among the injured.
Do jernails get only 72 or 144?
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Is there going to be mutiny in the Pak army?
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Photo time !

Location of today's attack: with thanks to google chacha.

This appears to be the mosque that was attacked. This is right next to Askari - II Army Officers Housing Colony, and next to the HQ Special Communication Organization.
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The recent attacks in this area:
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the long black serpent has twisted around and is devouring its own tail inch by inch, the curved fangs providing the leverage.

meantime, the mongoose drinks tea across the river and the serpent-eagle soars overhead with watchful eyes.
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Ashphuck's term ends in less than an year. The civvies have been unable to keep the Army safe. Wouldnt Pakistan be so much better under Mashall-laa ?

Just saying.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Corruption pe hamara haqq hai!! :rotfl:



Paki politician showing his IQ level. He must replace Zardari.
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^6 Nice find. :shock:
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anishns wrote:
Thij one is phaar keeps! I shit you naat!



Aap dekhte nahin hain what kind of amazing nashun we are? Jab poore moolk main suicide bombings ho rahi thi aur poora mulk mayoosi ka shikhaar tha....then out of no where Allah ke taraf se ek sign aata hai.......and we became the T20 world champions :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I think the the latest is fitting for a under-19 lawn hockey championship. Not quite good enough for the SAFF football championship, but not so bad as being rewarded a snooker championship.

The Pakis should work harder to win all championships !
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the mosque in question is out of bounds for anybody without a special pass... this special pass allows entry in the mosque !!
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http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o ... e&latest=1

SUMMARY
Officers 06
Soldiers 03
Children 17
Civilian 10
Total 36

Most of the Children are sons of Serving/Ret. Officers
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Per the ISPR release quite a bag of the uniformed jihadi's of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. One Major General, One Brigadier, Two Lieutenant Colonels and One Major were killed.

What does F/O mean :?: Family Of :?:
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^^^
Perhaps it stands for "Father Of"
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Zaid Hamid should be awarded the Bharat Ratna. The work he has been doing in Pakistan deserves nothing short of that. As he long as he keeps those buffoons believing that they are racially/martially superior to India & that theres nothing wrong with Porkistan and everything is a YYY conspiracy, Indian interests are very well served. :lol:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Take the War to Pakistan - NY times
But perhaps the most difficult issue is largely outside of General McChrystal’s control (and got short shrift in President Obama’s speech at West Point): undermining the Taliban’s sanctuary in Pakistan. Thus far, there has been no substantive action taken against the Taliban leadership in Baluchistan Province, south of the Pashtun-dominated areas of Afghanistan. This is the same mistake the Soviets made in the 1980s, when they failed to act against the seven major mujahadeen groups headquartered in Pakistan.

This sanctuary is critical because the Afghan war is organized and run out of Baluchistan. Virtually all significant meetings of the Taliban take place in that province, and many of the group’s senior leaders and military commanders are based there. “The Taliban sanctuary in Baluchistan is catastrophic for us,” a Marine told me on a recent trip to Afghanistan’s Helmand Province, across the border from Baluchistan. “Local Taliban fighters get strategic and operational guidance from across the border, as well as supplies and technical components for their improvised explosive devices.”
The first is to conduct raids to capture Taliban leaders in Baluchistan. Most Taliban are in or near Baluchi cities like Quetta. These should be police and intelligence operations, much like American-Pakistani efforts to capture Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other Qaeda operatives after 9/11. The second is to hit Taliban leaders with drone strikes, as the United States and Pakistan have done so effectively in the tribal areas.

The cost of failing to act in Baluchistan will be enormous. As one Russian diplomat who served in the Soviet Army in Afghanistan recently told me: “You are running out of time. You must balance counterinsurgency efforts in Afghanistan by targeting the leadership nodes in Pakistan. Don’t make the same mistake we did.”
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Akshut wrote:Corruption pe hamara haqq hai!! :rotfl:

Paki politician showing his IQ level. He must replace Zardari.
:rotfl:
Akshut, Stop lurking on Deaf and Dumb
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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one noob question
Pakistani expert claims that all these attacks are due to american operation against taliban in Afghanistan.They also say that afghan taliban and pakistani taliban are different. So how come american action against afghan taliban is reason for all the unrest in pakistan?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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mayo wrote:toll == 39

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 299840.cms
00, detonating bombs and shooting at worshippers
May Allah grabt him special quota of hoor, on scale of 10 , this one is close to 8 and must be considred pre enough effort by the fool.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Coup crore commander's sonny got killed it seems.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Chandragupta wrote:Zaid Hamid should be awarded the Bharat Ratna. The work he has been doing in Pakistan deserves nothing short of that. As he long as he keeps those buffoons believing that they are racially/martially superior to India & that theres nothing wrong with Porkistan and everything is a YYY conspiracy, Indian interests are very well served. :lol:
...Sar pe laal topi russi
phir bhi dil hai hindustani,

mera joota hai japani
yeh patloon inglistaani...

:D
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