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ramana wrote:Shyamd, re the KSA and nooks interesting info. Apparently it was joint project of KSA, TSP and PRc with Nelson's eye from US. Now things are changing and the heat is on KSA. There were reports of proximate security cover for the assets in Al Araby.
Are these all players coming together to protect Mecca?Medina. But who is the threat.

Is it really desh?
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I don't think acquiring Nookes necessarily means that they'll be aimed at someone.
In KSA's case, they have the Israeli nookes in the neighbourhood, though I doubt they lose their sleep over those. The prospect of the shia with nookes is what worries them.
Currently KSA is unchallanged as ummah leader, with the holy sites, and the oil and wealth.
Maybe the future of the oil is not so secure, so Nookes are going to be the power brokers. Who knows they might have dreams of being the only muslim country on the security council some day.
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Israel's Netanyahu Says Wants Better Ties With Turkey

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/07/ ... urkey.html
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ramana wrote:Shyamd, re the KSA and nooks interesting info. Apparently it was joint project of KSA, TSP and PRc with Nelson's eye from US. Now things are changing and the heat is on KSA. There were reports of proximate security cover for the assets in Al Araby.
Thing is Musharraf visit had nothing to do with nukes - it was all speculation that they had made nook agreements. Both IOL and DNW confirm that there is no nuke deal in place as TSP did not agree to share the tech.

However, both confirm that there is support from TSP - i.e. training of scientists in Kahuta. Musharraf sent some of his Long Range missiles and sensitive nook material to Saudi.

Saudi Aim was to replace Washington military umbrella.

More Saudi's visited Pakistan in 2004 to further deepen the bond. The deputy defmin of KSA paid a discreet visit to Kahuta too. There were talks which centered on training for a team of Saudi nuclear physicists at the Kahuta.
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Acharya wrote: Are these all players coming together to protect Mecca?Medina. But who is the threat.

Is it really desh?
"A weapon of peace" - remember that line?
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shyamd wrote:

Don't know about Bin Amir, a full name would be good. Current commerce min is HE Maqbool bin Ali bin Sultan. has been so since 90's.
Mohammad Ahmed Bin Amir is the full name.
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Isn't the main threat Iran....?
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Michael Oren's curious understanding of friendship

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Nudge on Arms Further Divides U.S. and Israel

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Holy Shiite....dead.
Fadlallah, who holds the title "sayyed" to denote direct lineage with Prophet Mohammed
Along with Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, the charismatic Fadlallah was named on a 1995 US blacklist of specially designated terrorists signed by then president Bill Clinton.
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IOL says western intel all got worried when they saw what appeared to be S-300 missile system from Russia during the annual parade's. After closer investigation, they found that it was actually the chinese HQ-9. Which shares a similar booster to the S-300.

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John Sexton's Global Campus Plans for NYU
Some faculty are concerned that the school's growing dependence on oil money will affect academic freedom, says Andrew Ross, an NYU professor of social and cultural analysis. The flashpoints are Abu Dhabi's lack of diplomatic relations with Israel, its intolerance of homosexuality, and its treatment of migrant labor, says Ross, president of NYU's chapter of the American Association of University Professors. Sexton says Israeli professors will be able to travel to the campus, as well as gay students and teachers, and NYU is monitoring labor practices.

Ronald W. Zweig, an NYU Israel studies professor and an Israeli citizen who traveled to Abu Dhabi, says officials there assured him he'd be able to come and go as he pleased and teach whatever he liked. "It's certainly a potentially risky venture, given that NYU's prestige is on the line," Zweig says. "It's very brave that John Sexton is moving forward with it."


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Border Policeman Admits Shooting Jilani at Point Blank Range, U.S. Consulate Offers Widow Little Help
Three weeks ago, an Israeli border police officer shot and killed Palestinian Ziad Jilani execution-style after a hit and run accident involving a squad of four police officers. After first reporting the police version of the incident that Jilani was a terrorist attempting to kill police, the Israeli media, in the person of Amira Hass, put forward a far more credible report claiming that a border policemen approach a wounded Jilani who was lying in the street and shot him in the head from point-blank range.

The Justice Ministry has begun an internal investigation and Jilani’s body has been exhumed and an autopsy will be done. As part of the investigation, the murder scene and entire incident were reconstructed. During this event, the shooter admitted, according to Haaretz’s report (Hebrew), that he shot Jilani at point-blank range. He claimed, however, that he believed Jilani was a terrorist and killed him because he feared he was wearing a suicide vest. Further, he claimed he fired to protect the lives of innocent bystanders.
Shepherd abducted by Israeli Army returns bruised
BEIRUT: The shepherd abducted by the Israeli Army was handed back to Lebanese authorities on Monday, with signs of mistreatment during his detention.

According to a spokesperson for the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), who acted as a mediator between Lebanese and Israeli armies, injuries were found on Imad Hassan Atwi’s body following his transfer to Lebanon.

“Yesterday, a Lebanese shepherd was apprehended by the [Israeli Army] in the Shebaa Farms area,” said UNIFIL spokesperson Neeraj Singh.

“UNIFIL Force Commander [Alberto Asarta Cuevas] was in contact with all the parties with a view to resolving the situation. UNIFIL’s immediate concern was to secure the release of the shepherd.

“This afternoon the [Israeli Army] handed over the shepherd to UNIFIL. He was examined by the UNIFIL physician and found to have some bruises on his head and body as well as sprain in his right ankle. UNIFIL has since handed him over to the Lebanese Army.”
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Total now is 120 alleged Israeli spies arrested. Yesterday Israeli int arrested 6 alleged Hezb spies.
LEBANON: Alleged Israeli spy had access to 'most significant segment' of cellphone network
An alleged Israeli spy arrested by Lebanese Army Intelligence last week had access to the "most significant segment" of one of the only two mobile networks in Lebanon, an industry expert told Babylon & Beyond.

The alleged spy, identified by officials as "Charbel Q," reportedly has confessed to working on behalf of the Israelis since 1996 and may have planted monitoring devices allowing the Israelis to tap directly into the Alfa network, one of the two major cellphone companies operating in Lebanon, according to local media reports (Arabic link).

"There is evidence that the accused, Charbel Q., had ties to Israel," a spokesman for the army confirmed. "The investigation is ongoing, and when it finishes, the matter will be decided according to Lebanese law."

According to one expert, the accused was a transmission officer responsible for maintaining crucial network stations, giving him access to "the most significant segment of the network from an intelligence perspective." Theoretically, the expert said, he could have planted devices that allowed the Israelis to eavesdrop on conversations and track people from their cellphones.

"Mobile technology allows you to mix activities such as location, identification and interception, so it is not a surprise that foreign forces have tried to penetrate these networks," said Riad Bahsoun, an industry expert who works on behalf of the International Telecommunications Union.

The case of Charbel Q has sparked anger and raised tough questions about the vulnerability of the Lebanese phone system and the government's culpability.

When cellphone service first came to Lebanon in 1994, the two networks were divided between foreign companies and powerful Lebanese political families. Even after the networks became state property in 2003, the government continued to lease the rights to foreign companies, eliminating competition and oversight and leaving Lebanese customers with some of the highest-priced cellphone service in the world.

In addition to being a favorite topic of complaint among ordinary Lebanese, the telecommunications sector is also a hot button among politicians. The militant group Hezbollah took up arms in 2008 to defend its terrestrial network, although Hezbollah members use the same mobile networks as the rest of the country.

"If the Mossad really have targeted some users on the [Alfa] network, it means that these people most probably are Hezbollah people," Bahsoun said. "In hindsight, we can say that, yes, Hezbollah people and the resistance were right in building their own secure network, or I don’t know how [the resistance] would still be here."

The arrest of Charbel Q is just the latest in a crackdown by authorities over the last two years that has yielded dozens of suspects and is thought to have dealt a significant blow to Israel's intelligence-gathering capabilities.

– Meris Lutz in Beirut
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UAE, India plan convict transfer
He said there will be a legal department in the UAE Embassy in India which will follow up on the cases of prisoners who are transferred to Indian jails.

Dubai: The UAE and India are drawing up an agreement which will allow the transfer of prisoners between the two countries, a senior Indian diplomat said yesterday.

M.K. Lokesh, Indian Ambassador to the UAE, told Gulf News that the agreement will enable Indian convicts in the UAE to serve their sentences in their home country, and the UAE will bear their daily expenses.

"Convicted Indians can request to serve their jail terms in India. This is done on humanitarian grounds. The request can be made either by the Indian or the UAE government, or by the prisoners."

A senior official at the UAE Ministry of Interior said the agreement will be signed between the two countries soon.

"Convicted prisoners involved in financial crimes or those sentenced to death cannot serve their terms in India."

He said there will be a legal department in the UAE Embassy in India which will follow up on the cases of prisoners who are transferred to Indian jails.

Some Indian prisoners told Gulf News they prefer to complete their jail terms in the UAE.
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Indian Ambassador visits National Centre for Documentation and Research
Jul 5, 2010 - 01:05 -

WAM Abu Dhabi, July 5th, 2010 (WAM) -- M. K. Lokeesh, the Indian Ambassador to UAE recently visited the National Centre for Documentation and Research (NCDR) and briefed on the activities of the Centre and its role in preserving the Memory of the Nation and enhancing its identity.

He was accompanied by Mrs. Anoja Shakravarti, the Cultural Attach in the Indian Embassy.

The Indian Ambassador discussed with Dr. Abdullah El Reyes, the Director General of the NCDR, various methods of cooperation including establishing ties between the NCDR and the National Archives of India, as well as other cultural and information institutions in India whose work is related to the Centre's areas of specialization. The Ambassador also suggested cooperation between the Centre and related agencies in India in order to document the history of Indian-UAE Relations based on sources in published books as well as historical documents in order to shed light upon the good relations between the two friendly countries in joint specialized conferences.

Dr. Abdullah El Reyes praised the positive response received by the Centre from their Indian counterparts in areas of common interests concerning archiving and documentation. He also noted that the Centre has benefited to a great degree from the documents which are related to the history of the United Arab Emirates and the Gulf Area located in the Archives of Maharashtra in the city of Mumbai, and the Goa Archives which contain the Portuguese Documents, as well as in the New Delhi and Kerala Archives.

After touring the Centre's facilities and departments, the Indian Ambassador recommended the exchange of information and visits with similar Indian institutions such as those found in the province of Kerala. Lokeesh discussed with the Director of the Centre the possibility of coordination with Indian academic institutions in such fields as archiving, documentation and information technology.

The Director General presented the Indian Ambassador with a memorial shield depicting Emirati heritage at the end of his visit.
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Joint Saudi-Indian space research planned
A Saudi delegation is to visit the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) later this month to sign an agreement to boost cooperation in space science that will help Riyadh develop its indigenous space program for peaceful purposes.

The delegation will be composed of scientists from the King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology (KACST) and other scientific institutions in the Kingdom. Details of the visit were disclosed by Rajeev Shahare, outgoing deputy chief at the Indian mission, here on Saturday night.

Shahare was speaking during a farewell party held by the India Business Forum (IBF). The event was attended by a number of businessmen and diplomats, Shahare’s wife Preeti Shahare, and many IBF office bearers including Owais Ahmed, Nadeem A. Tarin, S. Ziaur Rahman, Tareq Masood, Dr. Mukhtar Ahmed and Mir Mahmood Ali.

Asked about the details of the space cooperation between Riyadh and New Delhi, Shahare — who will be leaving for New Delhi on Monday — said a memorandum of understanding between KACST and ISRO was signed during Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to Riyadh earlier this year. He said that ISRO, one of the world’s leading space research organizations, would provide expertise to Riyadh as it has been conducting a variety of operations for both Indian and foreign clients. Shahare also spoke about his time in the Kingdom. “I personally believe my stay here was a great one, I can’t say of its successes, but I am going back with a lot of satisfaction … This is a great country and you have a lot of opportunities, especially business going on with the Saudis,” he said.

He added that he also felt touched by the farewell party, speakers’ remarks and floral tributes.

Speaking on the occasion, IBF President Ahmed said that Shahare had been instrumental in boosting Indo-Saudi ties. “In fact, IBF was Shahare’s brainchild,” said Ahmed.

This view was echoed by several other speakers who praised him for his catalytic role in improving Indo-Saudi relations, and hoped he would return to the region as an ambassador.

Shahare’s wife Preeti received her share of encomiums with speakers calling her a “great” lady and an embodiment of all that is good and graceful.

“The Shahares may be leaving for India and we will miss them, but they will always be with us in our hearts and minds,” said Tarin, another IBF office bearer.

Ahmed also presented a memento to Shahare at the end of the party.

Photojournalist Wasif Bhai presented a memorial CD to Shahare containing a valuable collection of Shahare’s photos taken during his four-year stay in Riyadh.

Prior to coming to Riyadh, Shahare served Indian missions in Cairo, Aden, Geneva, Bahrain and Mauritius.
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Apparently word on the street is that Israel intervened/complained about transfer of arms to KSA. Not sure what arms it is exactly, perhaps F-15's that KSA is after. Obama has put the transfer on hold.
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IOL says

Abu Dhabi has issued notices to a handful of import export houses that trade with Iran, asking them to cease trade with Iran.
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Tehran has created a parralel structure to continue trade with the world. Other sources say the banking sector in Tehran has been hit hard. A seperate unit is being set up to handle this under the command of Gen Moh'd ali Jaafari Head of the Pasdarans (the same guy who visited ISI HQ on Rigi business). One of their priorities is to hire Algerian and Malaysian oil engineers who can complete major oil projects underway in the country. The Pasdarans are using front companies to complete projects in the South Pars field. In fact a bond for investors is going to be released to finance the development.

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KSA has a new air force chief. So all the US/EU defence firms are studying the guy and his history. He was in charge of the executive committee responsible for monitoring the execution of the Al-Yamamah contract between Saudi Arabia and the UK. The contract which ran from 1985 to 2006 concerned the sale of Tornado aircraft built by British Aerospace, today BAE Systems, in exchange for 600k barrels of oil per day. Yup, the one that involved a lot of corruption. He was the former commander of the big military base in Khamis Mushayt - a very important military station for KSA.

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Ras al khaima - the poorest of 7 emirates of the UAE is in post succession trouble. The current ruler is very ill. The former crown prince was stripped of his position as crown prince and exiled. And he has been trying to make a comeback from exile in London, Washington etc. He is also doing a lot of lobbying etc in Washington. He frequently travels to Oman which borders RAK.

Should there be trouble in the Ras al-Khaimah, Abu Dhabi's armed forces would be called upon to intervene, as they did in 2003 when Khalid was removed from power. Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, paid a bedside visit to the ailing Emir of Ras al Khaima. The visit was clearly a display of the Sheikh's support for a smooth succession in the emirate. A power struggle is being played out between the sons of Sheikh Saqr Bin Mohammed Al Qasimi, the dying Emir of RAK.

Khalid, the eldest son, was the crown prince until 2003, when political and personal differences between father and son led to the Emir stripping him of his position.

Both sides are fighting this out by using the media. The King/current CP have written long articles in the Guardian and Der Spiegel about Khalid's quest for the throne. They attacked him.

Khalid's squadron of consultants - The exiled prince's advisors are employing similar tactics, and have provided numerous newspapers, the Washington Times and Israel's Maariv, with documents and reports accusing Ras al-Khaimah's rulers of being allied to Iran. But of course, a lot of this proved untrue. The current crown prince is accusing Sheikh Khalid of attempting coup plots.

California strategies - the company incharge of helping Sheikh Khalid, has alleged that their computers were hacked and files regarding the sheikh were stolen. So US Dept of Justice is investigating the matter.

you can read more about Sheikh Khalid's view and all this drama on http://www.sheikhkhalidrak.com

Some sources say, Khalid has managed to convince Hillary Clinton and other big poltiicians on the Hill.

On a sidenote, RAK Petroleum has got Zalmay Khalilzad on its board - they continue to invest heavily in Iraqi Kurdistan.

So after bankruptcy of Dubai, this is the next major issue for Abu Dhabi. Khalid, who now lives in exile, still considers himself to be the legitimate heir to the throne.

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Bahrain has asked for a defence agreement with Tehran. This is very interesting because Bahrain's security is dealt by Riyadh. Wonder what is going on here. This deal will probably similar to that signed by Qatar and Oman.
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Tax-Exempt Funds Aid Settlements in West Bank

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/world ... ettle.html
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Turning East, Turkey Asserts Economic Power

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/busin ... 6lira.html
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Israel Details Easing of Its Gaza Blockade

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/world ... deast.html
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Shyamd, I think you need to start a blog on your views and analsysis of the Middle East. Call it "Middle East Happenings/Watch thru Indian eyes" or something like that.

Your comments are useful and valuable.
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Why don't we start a portal with a number of these sites linked together? Similar to Foreignpolicy.com but through Indian perspective. There is so much material posted on this site, and if we can make into a regular column instead of in thousands of posts, we could do a much better job than many of these sites.
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Carl_T, That was the basic idea of BRF to bring together all those who want to discuss the world from Indian POV. However we need more such places to prevent single point of failure.
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Ramana, thanks. I agree, it is something that I have thought of - however, I am really hard pressed for time even to post on this thread - there are so many other things that I read and hear about, but don't have the time to talk about on this thread. It might be useful if someone could copy and paste selected posts onto a blog - that might help me a lot. Check mail. thanks.

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HARDtalk - Mehmet Simsek, Turkish Finance Minister
As the dream of EU membership remains a distant prospect, Turkey has been building new political and economic alliances with Arab neighbours Russia and Iran. Mehmet Simsek is Turkey's Finance Minister. Can his country afford to upset Washington and Brussels as it flexes its strategic muscle? He talks to Stephen Sackur
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Indictments in Gaza War Are Announced

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/world ... deast.html
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U.S. and Israel Shift Attention to Peace Process

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/world ... prexy.html
Tuesday’s much-publicized meeting in the Oval Office was in stark contrast to the frosty reception Mr. Netanyahu received during his last trip to the White House in March, when Mr. Obama left the prime minister waiting in the Roosevelt Room while he went upstairs to have dinner with his wife and daughters.
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'Israel trying to block U.S.-Saudi Arabia defense contract'

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... t-1.299848
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ramana wrote:Carl_T, That was the basic idea of BRF to bring together all those who want to discuss the world from Indian POV. However we need more such places to prevent single point of failure.
What I am referring to is more dissemination than discussion, rather than a forum, I think a polished website with regularly updated columns would be a good idea. We have enough people on this site who spend a lot of time writing posts, so a group of few people writing weekly columns could also work. Think nationalreviewonline or tnr.com etc.
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The departure of McChrystal is being seen as a further distancing between the Gulf and the US on civil as well as military fields. Gulf relied on Petraeus to send messages to Washington and communicate, with his departure a suitable replacement. Gulf leaders relied on Petraeus as a reliable interlocutor.
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If Washington doesn't budge on F-15SE due to israeli pressure, Khaled bin Sultan (assistant def min of KSA, who has started his campaign to become the def min) will put pressure on washington. I think he may just land in France and ask for previews of a shiny Rafale - as they did when the Al Yamama drama was being played out with Britain..
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New IOL issue out

Here is a quick summary:
Pentagon is scared that its sub contractors are indirectly funding the Taliban
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KSA delegation has made a visit to French Mili intel imagery centre last month. KSA delegation due to visit ISRO next month. We know that space launches are also linked to Long range missile launches, so is KSA going full steam ahead?

Saudi Arabia has been negotiating with France for more than a year to acquire a military observation satellite for the KSAAir Force and National Guard, which answers directly to King A. Negotiations were due to continue in Paris, but King A has cancelled his visit in the last minute.
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Moscow once again blocks the sale of S-300's to Tehran
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IOL confirms debka report that Mabhouh attempt could have been a bungled kidnap attempt according to Abu Dhabi security sources.
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Now that Dubai is bankrupt, all the power is with Abu Dhabi and they are ensuring Dubai sanctions iran.
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Meir Dagan (Mossad chief) and Yuval Diskin (Shin Bet chief) are due to step down.
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King Abdullah is now taking charge of all arms deals. They are currently negotiating with the US (F-15SE as I said above), and King Abdullah is trying to sideline KSA MoD to a purely technical role. Cough Cough... end of corrupt practices. CP Sultan must be pissed off.

No fewer than 200 people travel with the King in his entourage to US/Canada. KSA is after F-15 in a deal worth $10bn. Which will be a big boost to Boeing. IOL confirms KSA is after F-15 Sea Eagle - the most advanced F15. Will replace F15C/D's currently in service.

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UAE Central Bank sent out circulars to all financial establishments in the 7 emirates to freeze accounts of Iranian firms who are subject to UN sanctions. Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed got Sheikh Mo to agree to the proposed sanctions. Dubai is most worried about this because it is where more than 3000 Iranian companies are based andtherefore was against an Emirati freeze on Iranian accounts.

The sanctions mainly concern companies working in the nuclear or weapons industries, or companies controlled by the Pasdarans.

For the past six months, Abu Dhabi has financed Dubai's deficit and is guaranteeing the debts of the emirate's publicly-owned companies.

CIA Head has met with Abu Dhabi security head Sheikh Hazza bin Zayed several times recently including in Amman on Iran

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King of KSA was due to be in Paris as a guest, this was cancelled in the last minute today looks like.

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Prince Al Waleed is to start arabic Fox news channel, this could be another move towards politics. Wonder how the al sauds are taking it. Jamal Khashoggi - a big journalist and former editor of Prince Salman's newspaper I think, is heading it.

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THe arrest of the lady AQAP operative exposed AQ finance operations. They were using women to finance ops in peninsula and Afg. They raised 1.1million SR. They organised gatherings of women saying it was to help children in poor muslim countries and got them to donate their jewels etc. Women generally didnt come under much surveillance, so they were able to get away from such activiities.

Straight away King Saud Uni under auspices of Prince Nayef's chair for social science has opened a research program into what makes women extremists in their society.

Plenty to talk about not enough time.
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IOL says: The diplomatic fiasco from Mabhouh assasination ensured Dagan will not come back. The emirati investigation found clues that they planned to leave Dubai via boat. (There is speculation that there was a KSA role).

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Dagan was also blamed for not getting prior intel that could have prevented the raid on the Mavi Marmara. One of the candidates to replace Dagan is Hagai Hadas - a famous name, a former head of the Kidon unit (units responsible for assasinations). Kidon unit guys are generally known to be (mentally crazy/scary guys obsessive about killing) a little crazy.

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Without Moscow's good will, the sale of S-300 PMU-2 missiles to Tehran might have escaped the new UN resolution 1929-2010.
Putin told Sarkozy the decision on sanctions was tough to take. It was reasoned that the S-300's theoretical range of 150kms meant that the weapon could be used offensively as a surface-to-surface missile. This extended the definition of their operational capacity in a way that the UN's own list of banned weaponry had not.

However only "offensive" weapons are concerned, which rules out the "defensive" S-300 - this was the reasoning of Russia before.

Deprived of S-300, Iran could turn to Chinese surface to air missiles. Moscow's initiative is a sign of the solidarity between Moscow, Washington, London, Paris and Berlin with regard to Iran.
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Iran Unveils Approved Hairstyles
http://www.rferl.org/content/Iran_Unvei ... 92046.html
quote]The unveiling of the "Islamic" haircuts comes amid a new crackdown on "bad hijab" or veiling among women and also men.
Making Iranians, especially the young, follow state-imposed rules on their appearance has turned into a real challenge for Iranian officials, who often rely on force to fight what they describe as un-Islamic and immoral clothing and bad hijab.
Many young Iranians have in the past 30 years rebelled against an Islamic establishment that tries to control their private and public lives through their appearance, including clothing, hairstyles, and make-up.[/quote]

Once the most cultural Persian fallen so low becuase of Religion. Its sad and tragic as well pathetic.
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No fewer than 200 people travel with the King....
shyamd,

Thanks for the info rich posts on this topic over the last many months. Now a little non-strategic tit-bit. At one of the stops on this visit, the meeneebarr bill for this lot of 200 was just over seven figures for 3 nights....paid for from a separate account!!. No one can accuse KSA of not recycling their oil wealth :lol:
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^^ :lol: They sure do love their alcohol.

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Iran FM to partake in IOR-ARC meeting in Yemen

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Charlie Rose interview with Bashar al-Assad - President of Syria

Interesting interview. He reckons all this talk of Syria passing on missiles to Hezbollah is false rumours that have been spread many times before. When asked for evidence, israel or the US hasn't provided any, then media goes quiet on the issue. He says that Israel was clueless when they went into Lebanon, they didn't even know about the many bunkers which were just a few kilometers away from the border.

He also explains what happened when Olmert and Assad worked out a peace plan on the Golan brokered by Erdogan. He says that Olmert told Erdogan that he will go back to Israel and give Bashar his answer once checking with his people. 4 days later they raided Gaza. Peace plan was dropped. Now it is starting again. He also talks about intricate groupings within west asia. Turkey, Syria and Qatar work together on certain issues for example.

Good interview to watch - very imformative and some frank discussions.

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Expect Iraq to have inclusion in future GCC meetings in certain departments - most likely Energy conferences within GCC. This will probably occur within 1 year or so, or after the formation of a national govt which is proving extremely tricky. Biden will be back to iraq next month or sooner to solve this issue because people of Iraq are getting impatient.

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Egyptian President Mubarak has cancer of the esophagus

Debka also says PA chairman Mahmoud abbas is dying of cancer.

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Four handguns stolen in Netanyahu bodyguards bag at JFK

The case with the guns turned up in LA international airport without the guns inside. US/Israeli int are on a mad chase to find out what happened and who has them.... More to this.

DNW reckons there is an organised racket at the airport. Think of this shazad guy who got onto Emirates flight despite being on No fly list.
More on this later.
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Will Erdogan come out in support of this Muslim woman?

Man this guy is amazing...hats off to him....exposes the ridiculous hypocrisy of the so-called democratic Erdogan. Incidentally, this also exposes the ridiculous treachery of the stalinist nandigram rapist goons and their yellow puppets in 'civil-society' and media in our own country...their jaundiced world view is exactly the same..

Some gems worth printing in gold..
If they stood against lashes and stoning and two women equal one man rules they would be speaking against explicit Quranic commandments.
Quranic commandments come in one flavor only. About do’s and don’t’s, the Quran is not discriminatory. “Don’t drink alcohol” is no different than “Give him/her 99 lashes;
in fact the Quran also commands that everyone who is aware of adultery in the neighborhood must go and witness the punishment
Muteness is the best solution. Not for unimportant, sinning Muslims like Ms. Ashtiani, but definitely for the very important Muslims like Mr. Ahmadinejad’s best friend in Turkey
Brilliant...
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U.S. and Jordan agree to disagree about final status for Mideast peace

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... east_peace
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Somewhat old article: 2009/04/22!

If Arab Oil Runs Out by As’ad Abu Khalil: Pulse
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Obama gets more bad advice on Israel: Leslie Gelb

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... slie-gelb/
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