Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2010

[NikhilB]

http://www.pkaffairs.com/Play_Show_Poli ... 2010_10022
Ground situation of floods in punjab and sindh...

Watch around 3:50 - PA is not allowing media to cover ground situation. Seems that things are much worse and holly PA doesnt want to project its inability to deal with this.

[Manishw]

I hope the rain gods are happy in the coming days, weeks and months.
Added later: Of course I just want bumper harvest in India onlee.

[shravan]

Killing spree leaves 9 more dead in Karachi

KARACHI: Nine people were killed and several others injured in separate incidents of targeted killings in Karachi on Sunday.

[Manishw]

Killing spree leaves 9 more dead in Karachi


http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source ... 0JBenR-A0Q

and


Floods pushed Pakistan years back: Gilani

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source ... 4C0zpl8k5A

Begging-begging we will go...

[Suppiah]

That's one body for every point in the new 'code of conduct' they have adopted in Karachi...

[SSridhar]

Does Pakistan make sense ? asks a Pakistani and proceeds to provide answer too.

First, Islam is a shared religion of a vast majority of Pakistanis, but there neither was nor is “such a thing as a Muslim political monolith. Politically, Muslims were and are a diverse group.” Second, centralised expression of Pakistani nationalism has always been challenged by regional identities and that will remain the case, unless there is major overhauling of the political and economic system of the country. Third, no ongoing separatist movement in Pakistan has enough power to completely break up the country. Last, international powers, in this case the US, India and China, are not too keen to dismember Pakistan.

Then, there is criticism of Jinnah (one more writer to the growing list of such people)

Pakistan wrong-footedly started its innings while dealing with domestic diversity and that remains the case as the country turns 63. If any country fits the story of blind men describing an elephant, it is Pakistan. Both before and immediately after the country’s independence, leaders from Muslim majority regions had quite different, often conflicting, views on why those regions should have a separate country and what will that country be like, should it come into existence. Much is made of the uniting force of the Two Nation Theory now, but as late as 1946, when Pakistan was becoming a viable proposition, many influential leaders from regions that were to comprise Pakistan had not fully bought into the Two Nation Theory. Hussain Shaheed Suhrawardy, premier of united Bengal, “demolished the Two Nation Theory by claiming that religion was not the only determining factor, and attached great importance to linguistic ties. Mamdot wanted [the] whole of Punjab. Hidayatullah’s only interest was to keep the Centre out of Sindhi affairs.”

The Centre trampled upon the rights and aspirations of the constituent units with impunity during the first year of the country’s existence. All of the following happened while Mr Mohammad Ali Jinnah, considered the founder of the country {and portrayed wrongly as a stickler for Constitutional propriety}, was alive. Mr Jinnah tells Bengalis, who were the largest linguistic group of his newly minted country, that Urdu and only Urdu will be the official language of the country. In Sindh, the provincial government led by Ayub Khuhro from the Muslim League was dismissed and Khuhro was thrown into prison for he tried to contain the killings of Hindus in Karachi, and balked at taking Karachi away from Sindh to hand it over to the Centre. The government of Dr Khan Sahib was dismissed in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Reluctant about the accession to Pakistan, the Khan of Kalat was forced to submit by the threat of a full-fledged army action.

Late Feroz Ahmed, a perceptive analyst of the national question, did not have a separate chapter on Punjab in his book Ethnicity and Politics in Pakistan because “being the dominant group...Punjabis do not have an ethnic problem”. Their identity is subsumed in the Pakistani identity. Other scholars have variously called Punjab as an ‘ethnic hegemon’ and what occurs in the name of the state as the ‘Punjabisation of Pakistan’.

[SSridhar]

Editorial in DT

Now Cameron may at best be accused of being undiplomatic and insensitive regarding the nuanced policy of the west towards Pakistan since 9/11. But did his “plain speaking” contain at least a grain of truth? Is it not common knowledge (although spoken of elliptically and in hushed tones) that our security establishment not only created and nurtured the jihadis who have by now turned on their mentors, but that they continue to support the Afghan Taliban even while taking the field against our own home-grown variety? If this is not ‘looking two ways’, what is?

[Lalmohan]

looking at the floods in TSP, i am reminded of lord of the rings - when the ents break the damn and the river flows down into the depths of isengard and the saruman's evil works and the orc factories blow up in a hiss of steam...

[shiv]

"FAS" has a long track record of putting down the Indian maal and hyping the Paki (by extension Chinese) maal, tech, and research institutions in comparison

FAS is one of the few remaining institutions that still takes the traditional Western attitude to India - crinkly nosed "slightly disgusted by the pong" superciliousness that compares the odious India with the slightly less odious Pakistan and judges that Pakistan, like Gunga Din, is the better man.

It was precisely the awareness of this feeling that used to irritate me no end when people begged for "seat in UNSC" - as if begging would help reduce the perceived stink. Such people and their built-up illusions have to be knocked down one by one by brute force.

[Brad Goodman]

us-needs-to-differentiate-between-india-and-pakistan

Where, then, should the US turn if it leaves Pakistan and Afghanistan more to their own devices than heretofore? The answer, in my opinion, is towards India. The U.S. should materially increase its military collaboration with India, the only genuinely politically stable state in the region, so that together they can form a strategic nexus of stable states confronting a Pakistan that seems poised to descend into socio-political oblivion unless it finds ways to get its political house in order. And above all it must be allowed to solve its own political problems free of American paternalism and overindulgence of its military,

This implies a radical reworkng of the U.S strategic orientation to South Asia. In a sense it implies taking the next step toward differentiating India from Pakistan in the American strategic architecture.and crafting what comes down to a virtual alliance designed to preserve as much peace, secularism and political stability as the considerable resources of the two states working in concert can achieve.

Harold Gould is a Visiting Scholar in the Center for South Asian Studies at the University of Virginia

[Manishw]

^^^ Please dream on Mr. Gould, such a day will only come if the sun rises from the west or an Islamic nuke would light up amrika. Unkil is addicted to its Pakistani W***e.

[Gerard]

I thought Ardeshir Cowasjee was a rational individual! Half of his country is buried under water and the other half is burning with reckless terrorists running havoc in the name of religion,sect,ethnicity,politics and what not! And the only thing our man can come up with is a 'brilliant idea' to name Arabian Sea as 'Pakistan Sea'! Man!

Pakistanis are obsessed with maps.

Chaudhry Rehmat Ali’s vision, Iqbal’s foresight, and Jinnah’s work in not depicted in the current maps of Pakistan. If Pakistan is to look forward and move forward–the maps must begin at the 30° 00 N (longitude) parallel and move North. The latitude shown should be 70º 00 E and West of that. There is no point in showing all of Bharat in Pakistani maps. that gives a false picture to the youth. Pakistan maps should show Pakistan and the all the Central Asia Republics, the Middle East and Turkey. This is the future of Pakistan.

http://www.daily.pk/from-india-to-dinia ... sia-18608/

Rehmat Ali’s concept of Pakistan was nebulous, impractical and fantasy-ridden. It was to include the entire northwest of India, Kashmir, the Kathiawar peninsula, Kutch, and several enclaves deep within UP, including Delhi and Lucknow. There were to be two independent Muslim states besides Pakistan: Bangistan comprising Bengal and Assam in the east and Osmanistan in the south. These two were to form a federation with Pakistan. The 243 principalities or Rajwaras were to be divided among caste Hindus and “others” and then herded together in a ghetto called Hanoodia. As for the Sikhs, they were to be pushed into an enclave called Sikhia. Other races and religions were to inhabit an encampment by the name of Hanadika. Every non-Muslim was to remain subservient to the master race he called “The Paks”. And yes, the subcontinent was to be renamed Dinia. He did not say how he was going to bring all that about.

Map of Dinia
http://www.shelleys.demon.co.uk/dinia.jpg

Which is why Col Ralph Peter's map hurts H+D so much
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... ideast.jpg

[Manishw]

Pakistanis are obsessed with maps.

Chaudhry Rehmat Ali’s vision, Iqbal’s foresight, and Jinnah’s work in not depicted in the current maps of Pakistan. If Pakistan is to look forward and move forward–the maps must begin at the 30° 00 N (longitude) parallel and move North. The latitude shown should be 70º 00 E and West of that. There is no point in showing all of Bharat in Pakistani maps. that gives a false picture to the youth. Pakistan maps should show Pakistan and the all the Central Asia Republics, the Middle East and Turkey. This is the future of Pakistan.

http://www.daily.pk/from-india-to-dinia ... sia-18608/

These Pukes are really stark raving mad.What have we done to deserve them?

[anupmisra]

Media Censorship in pa'astan

Geo blocked over news of shoe hurling at Zardari
No one should know about the shoegate

The transmission of Geo News has been blocked overnight in various parts of country after it aired news regarding hurling of shoes at President Zardari during his party address in Birmingham, Geo News reported cable operators sources as saying.

Some of PPP’s leaders and government officials have issued threats and warnings to cable operators across country.

Newspapers’ vendors have been robbed of copies of Jang and Thenews newspapers upon direction of President Asif Ali Zardari.

Meanwhile, many offices of cable operators in Karachi have been set ablaze by angry activists of Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP).

Democracy, well and truly entrenched. Wait till blasphemy allegations are hurled at the TV stations.

[anupmisra]

Meanwhile the shoe politics turns from hilarious to bizarre with the minister of law and justice had this to say: Jialas’ also wear a pair of shoes, warns Babar Awan

Federal Minister for Law and Justice, Babar Awan has said that ‘shoe politics’ must come to an end and that people should now that workers of Pakistan People’s Party – the ruling party of Pakistan – also wear a pair of shoes.

Meaning, I guess, that PPP can hurl shoes too. At whom, no one knows. Maybe at each other.

[Dilbu]

Pakistan needs billions to recover from floods

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan will need billions of dollars to recover from its worst floods in history, further straining a country already dependent on foreign aid to prop up its economy and back its war against Islamist militants, the U.N. said Sunday.

But the government has also had competition from hard-line Islamist charities that have provided victims with food and shelter.
Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani asked for more help from the international community Sunday, saying the government couldn't cope with the disaster on its own.
"We will exhaust our resources to rescue, provide food, medicine and shelter, but it is beyond our capacity, so we will appeal to the world," said Gilani during a visit to Sukkur.

[Dilbu]

Ready for talks if troops removed from Pak northwest: Taliban

The militants said their leadership would hold negotiations on one point – "complete withdrawal" of troops from all parts of the northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province and the tribal areas.

"Taliban do not want to see Pakistan weak but the government's steps always negate our stance because of which the leadership of the Taliban is left with no option but to take steps for their defence," said one of the Taliban leaders who was contacted by the newspaper for comments on Zardari's statement.

TSP-Keeda dog & pony show for unkil?

[Cosmo_R]

@ambar ^^^ Cowasjee's Sea of Pakistan has come ashore....

[shiv]

Ready for talks if troops removed from Pak northwest: Taliban

The militants said their leadership would hold negotiations on one point – "complete withdrawal" of troops from all parts of the northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province and the tribal areas.

I find this a tremendously interesting piskological piece. It confirms the saying that when you are dealing with Pakis (or even the Taliban) person who wants to negotiate is considered as a person who must be weak. Because if you are strong - why negotiate? just grab what you want.

So Zardari says "We are ready to talk" and the Taliban says "These guys are weak - so let's demand that they get out first"

Exactly the same things transpires between India and Pakistan: India says "We are ready to talk" - and Pakistanis read that as "The Indians are weak - so the want to talk. If they were not weak they would grab". For this reason Pakistan demand the earth and sky in talks.

I believe this is the piskology that Indian negotiators need to understand.

Our diplomats are trained in Macaulayite terms where diplomacy and negotiation are not necessarily signs of weakness. But they need to learn what Raphael Patai discovered about Arabs - which is true regarding Paquis as well. Talking with them makes them think that the other guy is weak, so he wants to talk.

[Dipanker]

Pakistanis are obsessed with maps.

Chaudhry Rehmat Ali’s vision, Iqbal’s foresight, and Jinnah’s work in not depicted in the current maps of Pakistan. If Pakistan is to look forward and move forward–the maps must begin at the 30° 00 N (longitude) parallel and move North. The latitude shown should be 70º 00 E and West of that. There is no point in showing all of Bharat in Pakistani maps. that gives a false picture to the youth. Pakistan maps should show Pakistan and the all the Central Asia Republics, the Middle East and Turkey. This is the future of Pakistan.

http://www.daily.pk/from-india-to-dinia ... sia-18608/

Madarsa geography only. The latitude goes N-S and longitude goes E-W, the article has it backwards.

[SSridhar]

@ambar ^^^ Cowasjee's Sea of Pakistan has come ashore....

Nice one.

[ArmenT]

A priceless comment from the above posted Cameroon - TSP article being

"Pakistan being a victim of terror is like a suicide bomber being the victim of explosives"

There is a Yiddish word, if I can spell correctly, Hutspur, translated as
'taking a bloody liberty'. There is also the other explanation, that of a man
who murders his parents and pleads the courts clemency because he is
an orphan!

The word you're looking for is spelled "chutzpah". It is pronounced "Hootz-pah"

[Pratyush]

us-needs-to-differentiate-between-india-and-pakistan

Where, then, should the US turn if it leaves Pakistan and Afghanistan more to their own devices than heretofore? The answer, in my opinion, is towards India.

SNIP...........
Harold Gould is a Visiting Scholar in the Center for South Asian Studies at the University of Virginia

The number of voices calling for the abandonment of pakistan are increasing as time passes. IMO its only a matter of time when the Continued support for TSP becomes unviable for the 3.5.

[Pratyush]

These Pukes are really stark raving mad.What have we done to deserve them?

We dont deserve them and that why we have Pakistan.

[Amber G.]

In Lawless Land of the pure, Even the government is resorting to:
Rehman Malik: Shoot at sight

[JE Menon]

Somebody called jaimen has cut loose on Jason Burke's article here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... f-comments

[mayo]

Pakis are getting brazen. Here is a "peacenik" Paki writing in the Washington Post today. It is the usual Paki equal-equal, and openly demands of the US -- "if you want us Pakis to stop being terrorists, then give us Kashmir."

The real problem in the Afghan war is India, Pakistan and Kashmir
By Mohsin Hamid
(Mohsin Hamid is a writer based in Pakistan. His most recent novel is "The Reluctant Fundamentalist.")

Peace in AfPInd requires not U.S. troops on the ground, but a concerted effort to bring India and Pakistan to the negotiating table, where under the watchful eyes of the international community they can end their hydra-headed confrontation over Kashmir.

Fighting terrorists or fighting the Taliban -- or indeed, fighting in Afghanistan at all -- addresses symptoms rather than the disease in South Asia: the horrific, wasteful, tragic and dangerous six-decade confrontation between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

At the moment, the Pakistani military uses militant groups to put pressure on India to negotiate, and India uses terrorism as an excuse not to negotiate. By so doing, both sides harm themselves greatly.

Ignore Kashmir, as the United States does, and the conflict seems incomprehensible. Include Kashmir in the picture, and it all makes sense.

The United States still sets much of the global agenda. If it hopes to salvage any remotely positive outcome from its massive, nine-year-old war in Afghanistan, then it should move a resolution over Kashmir up on its list of priorities.

This Mohsin Hamid guy gets under my skin. So much so, that it is currently hampering my abilities to put my thought into words.

It is not just this article - I recently read his short story "The Reluctant Fundamentalist" and was left boiling with rage. Though sold as a political fiction, I feel he pushes forward his political opinions under the guise of the protagonist. The guy suffers from the illusion of self-grandeur to the extent that he subtly does an equal-equal not only with India , but also with the US! What really ticked me off in his book was the way he presents Paksitan as a victim against the "aggressor" India after the parliament attack. It is so easy to consistently hold / advocate a point of view by choosing a convenient starting point in a chain of events. He had a problem with the fact that India had mobilized huge troops on the border after the attack on the parliament and that Pakistan was *forced* to prepare for a war and that Pakistanis were scared by its "larger" neighbor. India is bad. Pakistan is good. All the description lacked just one minor detail - that the attack on the Indian parliament was planned, supported and executed with the help of Pakistani state apparatus.

I picked his book up for the same reason I read Arundhati Roy. I wanted to listen an alternative narrative. But all I learnt was what I had read in Shiv's book two years ago and I *did* try hard to conclude otherwise.

What is scary is that this guy is an educated one. If an average abdul who harbors ill against India/west or holds a certain political position due to state propaganda or lack or thinking faculty/education or lack of accessibility of an alternate point of view, I can still excuse it at a certain level. What is difficult to excuse is a selectively rational person. I feel this guy is a fundamentalist - albeit not a reluctant one.

I earnestly request the readers to take this idiot to task. I will do what I can. His illusions need to be countered. The guy needs a very generous dose of reality.

[Amber G.]

^^Nice one JEM.. Hope no one minds as it needs to be quoted in full.

Suprising, Jason Burke is not the sort of writer from whom I would have expected such arrant nonsense. I suspect the poor chap had to fill in at short notice since "Andrew Rawnsley is away" - and simply slapped together something on the topic du jour. It shows. From having read many of his previous articles, I know that the writer has a fairly good understanding of Pakistan and the doomsday monstrosities being spawned there. So one supposes, this article could be forgiven and put into the "these things happen now and then" category.

Still, one must point out that the problem with the article is not the observations, which may be true - but knowing the mind of the new "middle class conservative" in Gujranwala or Multan does not suggest an understanding of Pakistan. You can look at it through as many prisms as you want, but nothing will help.

Look, the fact of the matter is that Pakistan's military exports terror worldwide. This is by now well known to the general public, and confirmed by intelligence agencies from a wide range of countries. Only the Pakistani intelligence agency, the ISI, denies it, and that too half-heartedly. Pakistani writers take such a policy as part and parcel of the country's strategic arsenal (along with their nuclear weapons). All this while Pakistan's military claims to be an aly in the war against these same terrorists.

And you fault Prime Minister Cameron for saying it like it is? Please, the man at least had the gumption to speak without a forked tongue.

As for his not "understanding" Pakistan, perhaps this is the problem. The presumption that if you say it like it is, Pakistan will be hurt and intensify the export of terrorism and reduce the "co-operation" it provides in the war against terror. Isn't that like saying that if you oppose your soldiers being killed in Afghanistan, you shouldn't say it out loud, in case the killer is offended?

By the way, so what if Pakistan is offended? It is about time to get tough with this Janus-faced regime. It is about time that they are made to understand that there are better ways to prosperity for the elite that bilking the West out of billions in exchange for a maliciously calibrated co-operation.

The problem is not that Cameron called Pakistan out for its devious but ultimately self-defeating policies. The problem is that the military regime in Pakistan thinks he had no right to speak the truth, which they themselves acknowledge. Take the leaked Afghan warlogs documents, for instance. They military spokesmen say this is "old news", that the data does not reveal the way things have changed since December 2009. Are we to assum that between Dec. 31, 2009 and Jan. 1, 2010, the Pakistani military decided that it would end its two-faced policies towards the West, Afghanistan, and India? Why? As a new year gift?

In fact, the steady stream of killings this year, and the corresponding chortlings of glee among ISI-sponsored groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba coming from across the Durand line, clearly indicate that the Pakistani military has yet to learn any lesson of its own accord. It needs to be taught a lesson, if necessary forcefully.

Cameron's comment is a welcome indication that the leadership in the West, hopefully, is beginning to see the wisdom of public plain talk as far as Pakistan is concerned. One hopes the lesson will be taught soon enough.

And if the middle class conservatives in Gujranwala and Multan, or wherever else, don't get it, it does not matter much. Because it is time that Pakistan worried about what the average Briton, or American, or Afghan or Indian feels every time a murderous attack on their territories or on their citizens is carried out by a group with direct links to the Pakistani military establishment.

[Amber G.]

In all this turmoil ...
While 100's are killed in violence in Karachi ..
Malik says in press conf..

Brilliant job by my security and police in Karachi

and ... Geo blocked over news of shoe hurling at Zardari

[Amber G.]

^^^Pakistani media targeted over Zardari 'shoe attack' reports
(Photo evidence in the positive news thread)

[Gerard]

10% begging for national bird
Zadari: Pakistan cannot track insurgents

"I think if we need access to more information, we need more equipment; the drones for example should be under our position and should be given to us," he said.

"My army should have use of the drones, so that I don't lose thirty soldiers taking one stronghold with five Taliban in it because the terrain is very difficult," he said.

[Hiten]

some pretty stark image of the flood

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/0 ... istan.html

any feeling of sadness for their plight, vanishes at the thought of the millions more in aid coming their way, not all of which would would reach the intended people

One thing I don't get is, what is need for the donor countries to pay in dollahs & pounds - why not pay in material aid. If pakistan needs tents, blankets, clothing donor countries buy it for them and handover theses things to them equivalent to the value of aid pledged by them in. For reconstruction of infrastructure, either get construction companies from your own country to go and build it for them or pay the local contractors without any Govt/Army intermediary. If putting in place people to ensure proper disbursement of money to local contractors becomes an issue for individual countries, it could have been channeled through some designated aid agencies like say the UN or Red Cross or some like that - just ensure that the money the hard working tax-payer in your country has contributed actually reached the poor, destitute, impoverished pakistani and not the millionaire Generals of pakistan engaged in perpetual war build-up using begged, stolen and scavenged money.

[Vivek_A]

From the Washington Post

Link

From the strip, they can see what's left of their humble brick homes, which were inhabited only weeks ago but now resemble long-abandoned ruins. Above a see of gray waters that have yet to drain away, the tips of their corn and sugar cane plants are also visible. Once a vibrant green, they are fast rotting to brown.

"All the local roads are destroyed. All the schools are destroyed. We never had any medical facilities," said Obaid ur-Rehman, 26, who was forced to relocate to the median strip.

The national highway authority has tried to shoo the residents away, wanting to maintain appearances along a roadway that is one of the most visible signs of modern Pakistani infrastructure. But residents say they say have nowhere to go because everywhere else is vulnerable to future flooding.

"This is the basic reason for militancy: anger at the government," Rehman said. "If we had a place to live, if we had food, if we had schools, there would be no militancy in Pakistan."

Mohammed Riaz, a fellow median resident and father of seven, said the only sign of government assistance he has seen in the 10 days since flood waters destroyed his home came when a helicopter swooped low. From the side of the chopper, soldiers dropped packages of food. A mad scramble ensued. But the contents turned out to be rancid, and the government's gesture only added to the hostility.

"Some old biscuits were thrown from the helicopter," Riaz said. "But the people threw them back."

[svinayak]

In all this turmoil ...
While 100's are killed in violence in Karachi ..
Malik says in press conf..

Brilliant job by my security and police in Karachi

and ... Geo blocked over news of shoe hurling at Zardari

Story of a dysfunctional state

[Prem]

FAS= Federation of Asinine Seniles or
Fools Are Sure,Just like wise ones are always doubtful.

[kenop]

Even an International Permanent Organisation for aid to Pakistan may not them feel confident of future.
Their sense of entitlement bloats to go beyond the pockets of the donors.

[svinayak]

By Mohsin Hamid
(Mohsin Hamid is a writer based in Pakistan. His most recent novel is "The Reluctant Fundamentalist.")

This Mohsin Hamid guy gets under my skin. So much so, that it is currently hampering my abilities to put my thought into words.

It is not just this article - I recently read his short story "The Reluctant Fundamentalist" and was left boiling with rage. Though sold as a political fiction, I feel he pushes forward his political opinions under the guise of the protagonist. The guy suffers from the illusion of self-grandeur to the extent that he subtly does an equal-equal not only with India , but also with the US! What really ticked me off in his book was the way he presents Paksitan as a victim against the "aggressor" India after the parliament attack. It is so easy to consistently hold / advocate a point of view by choosing a convenient starting point in a chain of events. He had a problem with the fact that India had mobilized huge troops on the border after the attack on the parliament and that Pakistan was *forced* to prepare for a war and that Pakistanis were scared by its "larger" neighbor. India is bad. Pakistan is good.

I read the book few years back and supposed to be a fiction but actually tells how they think around the world.
I did not post it in BRF since I did not want to advertise it. But now we need to study that book to understand a typical pakjabi. It is actually very perceptive.

[Amber G.]

BTW - Today's GPS may be interesting to watch..Hamid Gul said that, Obama should talk to the ONLY man who could guarantee that there will be no terrorism exported- and he is Mullah Omar, (not Karzai, or Pakis.. or any other puppets..)

Worth watching the interview..

[CRamS]

I don't know whats the name of a syndrome whereby a crime perpetrator after commiting a henious crime goes on the offensive and paints himself as the object of the real victim's machinations against him. This Mohsin Hamid is afflicted with such a syndrome. You can go back and check the editorial in TSP newspapers, including "respectable" ones like The News. In the editorial after the parliament attack, they issued the customary sympathy, the customary "India is plauged by 268 or whatever number of insurgencies", the call for talks to resolve the "core issue", and the final aggressive kick on India's sheen: Such is the country that Pakistan has as its neighbor (India) that it would accuse Pakistan of commiting such a crime.

I wonder if the pukes can actually sleep at night after such brazen evil, committing terror and then going on the offensive? No, Pakis like this Mohsin Hamid are actually demented pigs for whom no evil perpetrated against India strikes their conscience.

[Brad Goodman]

The number of voices calling for the abandonment of pakistan are increasing as time passes. IMO its only a matter of time when the Continued support for TSP becomes unviable for the 3.5.

Here is my take US & UK (1.5) are democracy and looking at their press articles in main stream media and most important the comments readers are posting for any article that carries the paki word will definately add pressures on babus and mantris to realign their position vis vis pakis. Now for other two players tallel friend & saudi wahabis they do not care of what mango janata thinks so they will continue. Though Saudis are under US influence so will toe the US line that leaves tallel friend (madari) & his bandar (TSPA) to run the tamasha for a while till we see some faisal sehzaad jr doing a dhamaka in eastern turkestan and that brings the time tested friendship to a screeching halt the same way as those dong fang locomotives.