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Posting in full as this article is a goldmine on Indian activities in Nepal:
India and the Kantipur saga
The Indian Embassy in Kathmandu is in the middle of a controversy. It stands accused, yet again, of ‘gross interference' and ‘attacking press freedom in another country', and faces censure from a parliamentary committee, politicians across the spectrum, and civil society groups. Last week, sections of the media, including Kantipur television which is a part of the larger Kantipur group, reported that a product of Dabur Nepal was substandard and contained harmful substances. On August 27, the embassy said, “Indian joint ventures have informed the embassy they have been approached by such media houses for advertisement and are being threatened with negative publicity if those requests are not met.” It termed the news reports as ‘baseless adverse publicity against products of such ventures' and said such allegations in the past had proven to be false.

Organisations representing media owners, which included the Kantipur publisher, immediately condemned the statement, said media is free to choose its content, and cautioned the embassy to ‘respect diplomatic norms and values of press freedom'. The embassy reacted again, saying the statement by media organisations would have been more credible if backed by a condemnation of unethical practices adopted in eliciting advertising revenue from Indian joint ventures. Since then, the Parliament's international relations and human rights committee has instructed the government to seek a clarification from the Indian envoy for the embassy's statements and termed it as blatant interference in free press.

Marked by hostility

The present spat is essentially a reflection of the hostile relationship between the Indian government and the Kantipur group — the biggest media house in Nepal. The Hindu has been able to piece together the broader context based on conversations with all stakeholders, who wished to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. Earlier this year, Indian officials concluded that Kantipur's coverage — reporting and editorial line — was ‘distinctly anti-Indian' and ‘insensitive to security concerns'. Several stories appear to have contributed to this perception.

Jamim Shah, a Nepali entrepreneur reported to have deep links with the underworld and Dawood Ibrahim, was shot in broad daylight in February this year. Kantipur news reports alluded to the possibility of Indian agencies being involved in the incident. It also republished a report from more than a decade ago when a political figure, Mirza Dilshad Beg, with links to Ibrahim, was shot dead — the speculation then was similar about how Indian security agencies may have encouraged other underworld groups, particularly Chotta Rajan, to plan the killing. A few months later, Kantipur reported extensively on the localised clashes in Meghalaya which resulted in the killings of some Nepali nationals. Indian officials felt the reports on the incidents were ‘grossly exaggerated' to stoke ‘anti-Indianism'.

The passport issue

Kantipur was also at the forefront of opposing a government decision to award contracts to supply machine readable passports to India. A parliamentary committee, sections of the ruling alliance, and the Maoists had opposed the move, claiming the Indian bid was higher and would ‘harm Nepal's security'. Kantipur published a letter — which was leaked — written by Indian Ambassador Rakesh Sood to the Nepali Foreign Minister Sujata Koirala in which he requested the government to cooperate because among other reasons, this involved ‘India's security interests'. The domestic backlash forced the Nepal cabinet to revoke the decision. Additionally, while India was a firm backer of the Madhav Kumar Nepal government and sought to isolate the Maoists, Kantipur adopted an editorial stance asking for Prime Minister Nepal's resignation for the sake of consensus.

Advertisements, newsprint

All of this seems to have fuelled the Indian perception — which had first taken root after a change in top editorial staff in Kantipur publications last year — that the media house, through ‘baseless and unsubstantiated reporting' was targeting India's ‘core interests', stoking ‘ultra nationalism', and ‘favouring the Maoists'.

India first stopped providing embassy advertisements to Kantipur. It then decided, sometime in May, to ratchet up the pressure and coordinated with other agencies back home, especially the Department of Revenue Investigation and customs, to stop newsprint imported by Kantipur from South Korea at the Kolkata port. Simultaneously, Indian officials are learnt to have showed files of Kantipur's ‘anti-India reporting' to Indian joint venture representatives in Nepal and asked them to stop all advertisements in Kantipur television, the Kantipur daily, and The Kathmandu Post. The corporate houses complied.

In the third week of June, Kantipur went public accusing India of deliberately blocking newsprint at Kolkata. The Embassy called the allegations baseless, and attributed the delay to a ‘routine administrative investigation'. Political parties, media organisations and civil society expressed solidarity with Kantipur.

Soon after, Ambassador Sood and Kantipur's owner Kailash Sirohiya met for almost two hours at the embassy. Sources say the ‘open discussions' centred on Indian perceptions about Kantipur's anti-India tilt, with Mr. Sirohiya saying there was no such deliberate design and the embassy had never conveyed these concerns to them. A broad agreement was struck where Kantipur is understood to have assured India that it would be more ‘sensitive' in its coverage while India agreed to release newsprint.

India did gradually resume newsprint supply and Kantipur's editorial tone underwent a subtle shift. It began to report less on India-related matters with some critical articles being kept out. But the issue of advertisements remained unresolved. The embassy line to the joint ventures did not change, even as Kantipur waited for the advertisements to resume and asked embassy officials for help. Meanwhile, some of these advertisements were shifting to its arch-rivals in Nepal's increasingly competitive media market.

It is in this context that the Dabur controversy erupted. Some other media houses — a tabloid paper and a television channel — had been writing on the issue of Dabur's alleged substandard products since the end of May. The company's representatives had refuted these reports — it issued public interest notices, co-operated with the certification authorities, and wrote to the press council asking it to censure ‘baseless reports'.


The timing of Kantipur's discovery of the issue appears to be directly related to the group losing patience in its talks with Indian officials, and feeling insecure. It seems to have concluded that its ‘silence' over the past two months was being construed as a ‘sign of weakness', and so thought that ratcheting up the pressure by targeting companies and building public opinion could challenge the Indians and force it to change its position. But going public could well have the effect of strengthening the ‘tough' approach within the Indian establishment that had advocated such a course of action in the first place.

Introspection

While Kantipur's dilemmas are understandable, its recent coverage does have traces of national chauvinism and appears opportunistic, linked to the advertisement embargo. While keeping big business — both domestic and Indian — to account, it should be careful and responsible enough not to tarnish companies whose contribution to manufacturing, trading, employment, and revenue is important to the Nepali economy.

But it is the Indian government that needs to do a serious review. First, there is the ethical propriety of using such strong-arm tactics against the media in a country where India claims to be ‘supporting democratic forces'. But then there are real pragmatic issues. The Indian state used Indian big business operating in Nepal for questionable political purposes. The companies became willing pawns in the bigger game; this has boomeranged and joint ventures are paying the price.

India is now ranged against not only the country's biggest political party, the Maoists, but also its biggest media house, Kantipur. It has opened up multiple fronts at the same time in Nepal, all in the name of ‘national security', and stands exposed, with even its traditional allies finding it hard to defend India in public. Delhi may be smug about Nepal's overwhelming structural dependence on India, but it underestimates the depth of resentment against India in Nepal at its own peril.
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Prachandagate scandal
In tapes of the sting operation leaked to Nepali media on Friday evening, Mahara is heard asking for NRs 500 million from the Chinese person to bribe 50 lawmakers to vote for Maoist chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal.
The audio tapes of two conversations lasting over 12 minutes were reportedly recorded on August 31 and September 1. A voice sounding like Mahara speaks in halting English to a caller with noticeable Chinese accent.
In the conversation the Maoist leader says his party has already acquired support of 10-15 lawmakers from other parties, but need another 50 more to vote for Dahal for him to win.
Nepal is in the process of electing its new prime minister after Madhav Kumar Nepal resigned in June.
But despite five rounds of voting, none of the two candidates—Dahal and Nepali Congress leader Ram Chandra Poudel have managed to get the 300 votes needed for a win.
Maoists have 235 members in the Constituent Assembly while Nepali Congress has 114 representatives.
this is the 2nd time prachanda has been caught pants down. in the first one he had boasted about telling lies regarding the guerrilla army he had.

I wonder did our special envoy Shyam Saran go to Nepal with this info or was it earlier.
At any cost Nepal should be in India's orbit. All the vermin getting chinese support should be neutralised by whatever means. It should have a special status within India's control if need be.
Hope India realises that in geoploitics there are no permanent friends only permanent interests. Forget all moral ethical issues and do whatever is required for protecting our interests.
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There is no doubt that either the IB or a "sister agency" has leaked this tape since all the Indian channels also seem to be having this.

Also, if the transcript is anything to go by, the Chinese of the phone seemed to be aware that the phone might be tapped or was following SOP since he mentions a Nepali big shot who seems to be on Chinese payroll but refuses to name him saying "he(the Chinese agent) wont name him( the Nepali on Chinese payroll) on phone for his own protection"
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China buying Nepal MPs?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chin ... 493183.cms

This is the video of the conversation. Interesting!

Pearl policy is real! India has to work with US to develop counter policies.
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Anyone keeping track of the vote division in the last six polls will see that no shit has changed. It has remained the same right from the first poll iirc in June. This charade is becoming so pointless that even a few more polls wont resolve. Unless, unless.... Prachanda gives way to Dr. Baburam Bhattarai. Lookie, there is no way for a NC government to be legitimately formed without the whinebags of CPN (M) not causing sound and fury and yakking about demagogueric credentials. It will be a repeat of Singha Durbar under Madhav Ku. Nepal. Jhalnath cannot come back due to factionalism inside CPN (ML). No way is MKN or KP Sharma Oli going to let Jhalnath walk away with PMship. A stable equilibrium in this mess for the short-term means: either the liquidation of Prachanda or the rise of Baburam Bhattarai or massive horse-trading. The last is plausible, but not likely. The first is implausible, but cannot be overlooked. South Block is working on the realistic option. If you get that, things will fall in place as to the contours of the Shyam Saran mission.

One report I saw said that the maoists will get a simple majority if elections were to happen now. Perhaps... Only because there is no one else to vote for. In a democrazy, a negative vote is many times interpreted as a positive vote for the opponent. We saw that in the 1980 elections in India.
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prachanda fails to become PM the sixth time again
Nepal witnessed another poll but the same outcome on Sunday as the country’s lawmakers failed to elect a new prime minister for the sixth consecutive time. Maoist chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal ‘Prachanda’ secured 240 votes (4 votes more than previously)while Nepali Congress vice president Ram Chandra Poudel got 122 votes. A candidate needs 300 votes to win the election.
Today’s outcome was clear before voting as CPN-UML (108 votes) and United Democratic Madhesi Forum, the three party conglomeration of Madhesi parties with 57 votes, had announced their decision to abstain
As per the interim constitution, the voting process would continue till a candidate secures the votes required to win. No new candidate can enter the fray midway
This is going to be crazy, Nepali law makers have to make sure that maoists do not govern Nepal despite they being the largest party. Hope India is upto to the task and defeat chinese aided maoists.
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Prachanda meets his Waterloo, China under fire
KATHMANDU: Despite a furious attempt to break an opposing alliance of four Terai parties and regain power, Maoist chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal Prachanda still met his Waterloo on Tuesday, losing the prime ministerial election for a record seventh time, and dragging his mentor, China, into dispute.

While the 55-year-old's defeat was almost certain, as it had been in the earlier six rounds, in a stunning development, the Chinese embassy in Kathmandu came under fire with nearly 200 protesters demonstrating outside. Instead of "Free Tibet" protesters, Tuesday's march was led by a little known students' group -- the Free Youth Organisation – that claimed to have over 20,000 members in Hong Kong and Malaysia as well.

While a grim-faced parliament chairman Subas Nembang was telling the weary house that Prachanda had received only 252 votes and his rival, Nepali Congress parliamentary party chief Ram Chandra Poudel, 119 and so, none had reached the winning mark of 300, about 200 people shouted slogans outside the Chinese embassy in another part of the capital. "We oppose all foreign intervention in Nepal's internal affairs," said some of the banners while students called for Maoist MP Krishna Bahadur Mahara – alleged to have been caught in a bribery scam involving Chinese money -- to leave Nepal.

"We strongly deplore the act of China trying to use money to influence our internal politics," a protest letter handed over by the marchers to the embassy said. "We also deplore the action of some of our politicians, who are well respected as revolutionaries, in demanding and accepting the bribes offered by China."
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in a stunning development, the Chinese embassy in Kathmandu came under fire with nearly 200 protesters demonstrating outside. Instead of "Free Tibet" protesters, Tuesday's march was led by a little known students' group -- the Free Youth Organisation – that claimed to have over 20,000 members in Hong Kong and Malaysia as well.
Wonder where the organizing skills and money for this came from? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :wink:
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^^^^
It is good that prachanda failed but prachanda has increased his tally from 240 to 252. that is not good.
the reqd number is 300 to become PM.
he and the maoists have to be given a bad name and destroyed credibility in the eyes of nepalese.
Good to see the young people demonstrations in front of panda embassy.
good show by all concerned. :wink:
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Prachanda’s loss throws open India-China rivalry
Kathmandu has become the latest proxy battleground between regional powers India and China to demonstrate their sphere of influence, with leaked tapes and trade disagreements playing out against a snowballing political crisis, in which Nepal’s lawmakers today rejected a record seventh attempt by Maoist candidate Pushpa Kamal Dahal, or Prachanda, to become prime minister.
Nepali and Indian observers who sought anonymity said India had “succeeded” in denying Prachanda “victory,” but conceded that the leak of an audio tape on Friday in which Maoist ideologue Krishna Bahadur Mahara is said to be asking for Rs 50 crore from an allegedly Chinese person to “’buy” MPs, had affected the image of the Maoists.
As Dabur Nepal complained to the Indian embassy in Kathmandu about the alleged blackmail and claimed protection, the Indian embassy not only took the matter to the Press Council but also to Nepal’s foreign ministry.
Amongst the spate of accusations and counter-accusations which flew thick and fast in Kathmandu, the Indian embassy was believed to have egged Dabur Nepal to take action against Kantipur because it was intent upon carrying Maoist-inspired “anti-Indian” articles.
Delhi’s concerns relate as much to the security and stability of the open border between India and Nepal as to the fact that certain Maoist ideologues are openly pro-China. Indian officials also point out that the open border has become a “hotbed of ISI intrigue.
A former Indian diplomat with intimate knowledge of Nepal admitted that India “needed to be much, much more engaged with Nepal…Delhi’s episodic interest in Kathmandu is a recipe for the next crisis,” he said.
India’s ambassador to Nepal, Rakesh Sood, was also believed to be meeting CPN-UML leaders in recent days in an effort to persuade them to abandon their neutrality in the election and support NC candidate Poudel.
Meanwhile, the disagreement between Dabur Nepal and Kantipur continues, even though a Kantipur editor, Akhilesh Upadhyaya, told Business Standard that he would readily welcome Dabur Nepal’s advertising back, as the media house well understood the “value of commerce” in a newspaper’s business.
A Dabur spokesperson in Delhi, who refused to identify himself, only said his company expected the government to stop this “negative propaganda,” in which Dabur products were being described as inferior.
destroy the credibility of maoists, buy out the anti India media, keep pro India parties in power.
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Bump.
101 East - Bhutan's prime minister
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Nepal's parties set new deadline for peace process
Nepal's politicians have given themselves four months to finally complete a peace process after a United Nations report criticised their failure to fulfil pledges made at the end of the war.
The agreement paves the way for a final extension of the UN Mission in Nepal (UNMIN), which was set up after the decade-long conflict ended in 2006 with a temporary mandate to monitor the two rival armies and oversee the peace process.
Nepal's coalition government fell on June 30, when the then prime minister Madhav Kumar Nepal stood down under pressure from the Maoist opposition to pave the way for a new national unity government.
Since then the parties have been unable to agree on the shape of the new administration and a series of votes in the 601-member parliament have proved inconclusive, with none of the candidates securing an overall majority.
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Nepal in final stages of new extradition treaty

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_ne ... ty_1444848

"We are working towards finalising the new Extradition Act which is an updated version of the Extradition Act of 1989," said Raju Man Singh Malla, the joint secretary at the ministry.

He, however, did not give details of the act, saying it will be submitted to the cabinet soon, amid speculation that it could be as early as next week.

The draft of the new law facilitates deportation of third-country nationals, a provision which is absent in the earlier India-Nepal Extradition Treaty and which New Delhi has been pitching for in a bid to add more teeth to the law.
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Published on Oct 23, 2010
By Sudha Ramachandran
Indian and China hover over Nepal: Asia Times Online
Beijing involved too
India, however, is not alone in "meddling" in Nepal's politics. Rival China seems to be at it too. The end of monarchy in Nepal was a huge blow to the Chinese, as Nepal's kings have traditionally been closer to Beijing than Delhi, the latter having supported the pro-democracy struggles. In 2005, for instance, King Gyanendra initiated the successful effort to get China into the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation as an observer, much to India's chagrin.

Then when the Maoists came to power, China successfully wooed Prachanda. His exit was a setback to Chinese influence. The Chinese are just as determined as the Indians to see that they have a "friendly face" at the helm in Kathmandu, someone they can count on to crush the increasing activity of the “free Tibet” movement in Nepal. Hence their support for the Maoists. Prachanda is reported to have met Chinese officials repeatedly in recent months.

China has matched India's every step in Nepal. In 2007, for instance, when India reportedly helped form the Terai-Madhes Loktantrik Party, Beijing deepened its interaction with the Madhesi Jana Adhikar Forum, even sending a Chinese to its annual conference last year.

The Chinese role in the current impasse was laid bare recently when journalists in Kathmandu received a tape of a telephonic conversation between the Maoists' foreign affairs cell chief Krishna Bahadur Mahara and an unidentified Chinese official, wherein Mahara is heard asking for 500 million rupees (US$11.2 million) to secure the votes of 50 members of parliament, apparently from the Madhesi parties, for Prachanda.

Beijing has not concealed its unhappiness with India's enhanced role. "Nepal must be able to solve its problems on its own without outside interference, and China takes every such interference seriously," He Yong, a member of the central secretariat of the Communist Party of China who led a 21-member delegation to Nepal, is reported to have said during meetings with the Nepali president, acting prime minister and the Maoist leader.

China has never hesitated to pressure Nepal's government to act against Tibetan activists. A little over a fortnight ago, Chinese pressure forced Nepalese authorities to crack down on an attempt by Tibetans to vote in elections for a new government-in-exile. Police confiscated ballot boxes midway through the poll.

More embarrassing for the Nepali government was the pressure it was subjected to when President Ram Baran Yadav planned to visit a Buddhist monastery in Boudha last year to inaugurate the centenary celebrations of a Buddhist monk. Chinese officials in Kathmandu warned the government that the visit would be interpreted in Beijing as aiding and abetting anti-Chinese activities. President Yadav canceled his visit an hour before his scheduled arrival at Boudha. Boudha is home to a large number of Tibetan refugees.

While Chinese influence in Nepal is growing, India has only itself to blame for its dwindling clout in Kathmandu. Its misreading of the Maoists and its stubborn reluctance to accept them as a part of Nepal's democratic arena has pushed them into China's waiting arms.

"India has lost the plot" in Nepal, Varadarajan observed. It has allowed "the paranoia and tunnel vision of its security and intelligence establishment to compromise its long-term strategic interests" in the region.

Meanwhile, reports indicate that Nepal's deposed King Gyanendra is fishing in the country's troubled waters too, and is seeking to make a political comeback. He will be looking for powerful patrons. India and China are wading ever deeper into Nepal's political swamp. Which of them will succumb to the temptation of biting the ex-king's bait?
The problem is every country around India uses India as the bogeyman, and there is intense anti-India propaganda. India just cannot win the propaganda only by actions. India needs to buy deep into the propaganda machinery of the country, as well as in the political and religious establishments of the neighboring countries.

Also India needs to keep the King out of power, but use his supporters to buy influence in Nepal.

Thirdly India should stay on a very anti-Maoist course, not just working politically against them but also try to pin the blame for the Maoist insurgency in India on Nepali Maoist support to the movement by means of weapons and safe haven. Only if the Indian Establishment shows itself incensed at the Maoists, would the Nepali people also believe that India has grievances, otherwise the narrative would remain - India is a bully.
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Published on Oct 25, 2010
By Dirgha Raj Prasai
Nepal, India & China should Maintain Cordial Relation: Australia.to News
We know- the Republican democracy can be institutionalized in other nations. However, Nepal is different to that of other nations. If Nepal remains a republic, as it lies between two boulders-China and India- it will not remain secure. In the absence of the royal institution Nepal could as well break into pieces. If Nepal continues to exist, it will not be democracy that would be established through communism. Then, China will come forward for communism in Nepal. It is so because it is China's compulsion. If China does not communizes Nepal the foreigners will be subjected to the danger of foreign conspiracy of eternity. If there is no communism in Nepal, China could break up under Indian and American conspiracy. China under threat from imperialist forces will not remain silent. So, for China's security it will be its foremost agenda to establish a People's Republic in Nepal. Yes, 'continuity of monarchy (being the old institution also) is the only way for reforming the system of democracy by saving Nepal's existence and freeing it of communist's pressure and China's intervention. China agrees to this concept as well and it will support the re-establishment of the royal institution.

China has viewed the royal institution as a source of security from the era of the great leader Mao Ze Dong. After Nepal transforms to People's Republic (one party communist) it will be easier to establish communism in India too. A huge struggle for communism will ensue in India where there are 80 percent poverty stricken people and emasculated ones. Then, communism will be established in India with guns. If People's Republic were to be established in Nepal and India, then, Britain, America and other contractors of democracy would not be able to conspire and stop communism through bombardment.
The man is crazy, but represents the thinking in Nepal probably.
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Urged by China, Prachanda seeks better ties with India
Having attacked India at every available opportunity for the past year, Nepal Maoists chief Pushpa Kamal Dahal 'Prachanda' now apparently wants to cozy up to it — on China's advice. In an interview to The Kathmandu Post and Kantipur dailies after his recent China trip, the former prime minister spoke of a "strategic tripartite partnership" involving India, China and Nepal. He also indicated a possible visit to Delhi.
In the interviews, Prachanda said he was advised by Chinese leaders to better relations with India.
Look at the gall of this man- advised by china. :rotfl:
While the Maoists seem eager to mend fences, Indian officials were guarded in their response for Prachanda is known to frequently retract his statements.
He is losing his credibility and that of maoists slowly and surely in the eyes of nepalese. They are no gooder to Nepal. they will make another North korea of Nepal.
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In the interviews, Prachanda said he was advised by Chinese leaders to better relations with India.
Guess he said this himself to avoid the ignominy of having to defend his voice appearing on a tape ( mysteriously leaked to all news outlets in Nepal like in the past :wink: ) wherein a Chini official will be giving him guidance...
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Wedding diplomacy by Gyanendra
A Nepali tabloid said the former king, whose ouster is laid at India's door by aggrieved royalists, will be meeting Congress president Sonia Gandhi and the leaders of the Bharatiya Janata Party, which has begun calling for the restoration of Hinduism as the state religion in Nepal, once the only Hindu kingdom in the world.

The former king and queen had visited India last year as well to attend two royal weddings.

The wedding diplomacy comes at a time the ousted king's foes, Nepal's three major political parties including the Maoists, have become the new butt of public anger and ridicule for failing to elect a new prime minister even after 16 rounds of vote.

The long political stalemate has been good for the former royal family, sprucing up the image of the autocratic former king who had in the past tried to grab power with the support of the army, in comparison with the squabbling leaders. It has also given a reprieve to the crown. Had the parties been able to promulgate a new constitution by May this year, it would have been sure to ring the death knell of monarchy.
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RajeshA wrote:
China has viewed the royal institution as a source of security from the era of the great leader Mao Ze Dong. After Nepal transforms to People's Republic (one party communist) it will be easier to establish communism in India too. A huge struggle for communism will ensue in India where there are 80 percent poverty stricken people and emasculated ones. Then, communism will be established in India with guns. If People's Republic were to be established in Nepal and India, then, Britain, America and other contractors of democracy would not be able to conspire and stop communism through bombardment.

The man is crazy, but represents the thinking in Nepal probably.
Revolutionary international movement have been thinking about this. This conspiracy is a big one and they want to rope in all the nearby countries.
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India to provide Rs700 crore to Nepal for road projects
India will provide nearly Rs700 crores to Nepal for road projects in the Terai region, close to its border, to help improve transport infrastructure.
The project will be implemented in three phases and envisages to construct over 1,450 kms of black topped all weather roads in the Terai area of Nepal adjoining India.
Phase-I, on which work is expected to start by next month, includes 19 roads totaling 605 kms.
The project would be funded totally by the Government of India under the Nepal-India Cooperation Programme and will be constructed at an estimated cost of nearly Rs. 687.5 crores.
RITES is working as consultant for the project from the Indian side.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 05456.html
Bhutan's New Pursuit of Happiness
The government of this remote Himalayan nation between China and India has a new message for the outside world: Bhutan is open for business.
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Prachanda calls for war with India
Kathmandu, Nov. 24: Amidst the Indian government’s growing concern about the crisis in Nepal and a renewed war on its own Maoist guerrillas, Nepal’s Maoist supremo, Mr Pushpa Kamal Dahal, alias Prachanda, 55, has identified India as the arch enemy and urged the party to brace for a war with the southern neighbour, reports said on Wednesday.

Mr Prachanda blames New Delhi for the fall of his short-lived government last year and his failure to win the subsequent prime ministerial election, has begun predicting military intervention in Nepal by India and has advocated a people’s revolt at the sixth Maoist plenum.

“Compradors, feudal forces and Indian expansionism are our arch enemies,” a local daily reported him as saying.

“Now we have to be ready for a national war against India and begin a people’s revolt for that,” he said. Less than two months remain to address the fate of the Maoists’ 20,000-strong People’s Liberation Army (PLA), with their UN monitors leaving Nepal in mid-January.

:mrgreen: Prachanda must be reading BR future strategic scenarios thread.
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RamaY wrote: :mrgreen: Prachanda must be reading BR future strategic scenarios thread.
Shit, I must have been careful on the "Waging war for geo-strategic gains"! :oops:
He should read "Peaceful Consolidation of Indian Subcontinent" in the "Future Strategic Scenarios for the Indian Subcontinent II" Thread. There I tell, how everything I've ever written bad about Nepal is all wrong, and how we should all love our neighbors. :)

Here I write:
At the moment India has her reputation among her neighbors of being a more or less peaceful neighbor. The latent animosity against India is less the work of India or any true grievances, but simply due to the fact that we present to them a very imposing and intimidating view due to our size. The reasons the neighbors give for their feelings against India can be challenged and India has good arguments. Any outward aggression by India would harden these feelings by leaps and bounds, and also give them real arguments for their existence.

So India's reputation is a valuable commodity and we should not gamble with it for small and controversial gains.

A peaceful consolidation of the Indian Subcontinent offers India an alternative to the muscular approach in the region.
Okay, just kidding. I don't know why Prachanda has got constipation, and it would be way way presumptuous to think it would be because of some stupid post by my humble self.
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This guy (Parchanda) is asking for zhapads :evil:
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Image of brutality returns to haunt Nepal's Maoists
Today, four years after Nepal's Maoist party ended its decade-old "People's War", the grainy but still shocking photograph of the school principal tied by the guerrillas to a tree with his own muffle in a grim parody of the crucifixion image, shot in the stomach and then left to die before scores of petrified school children and villagers in western Nepal, rose in public memory again even as the party that killed him was holding an extravagant meeting in the adjoining district.

Adhikari was among the 28 teachers killed by the Maoists in 2001-2. The then underground party also maimed dozens of others, including Khem Bahadur Rana, the headmaster of Bahakot High School in Syangja district, whose hand was hacked off. The Maoists had been demanding that all teachers hand over 25 percent of their salaries to fund their uprising and Adhikari had refused. Moreover, he had also tried to unite the other teachers into opposing the demand.

Adhikari's murder still remains unpunished and his son, who formed an association of people orphaned by the Maoists, has disappeared quietly after the Maoists in 2004 gunned down Ganesh Chiluwal, who had founded the Maoists' Victims' Association, in Kathmandu in broad daylight.


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Indian firm seeks $48,000 from Nepal for aborted passport deal
India's state-owned currency printing firm, the Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India, has asked the Nepalese government to reimburse the $48,000 the company incurred after Kathmandu signed a major passport contract with it but then cancelled it unilaterally because of political pressure.

......Growing reports of Nepali passport thefts and rising incidences of terror groups targeting Indian cities via Nepal made India suggest the move so that it could incorporate special security features in the passports making them difficult to tamper with or counterfeit.......

However, Nepal's coalition government cancelled the contract after pressure from its own allies as well as the opposition Maoist party, who also threatened the state with strikes. ........

....However, it is unlikely that the Corporation will be able to reclaim its expenses soon. Though it approached Nepal almost two months ago, it is yet to hear from the government. ....

......Despite being ready to waive Nepal's debts in order to help the economically weaker neighbour, New Delhi took a hard stand in the recent past after Nepal began buying arms and aircraft from China.

The Indian government was irked as Nepal made immediate cash payments for the Chinese purchase but was dragging its feet on paying the money it owed India for supplying arms and other military equipment even though they were given at a 70 percent subsidy
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India getting taken for granted by all its neighbors - a lipful of smile & mouthful of sweet platitudes is what we seem to get at the best of times from them

Also US envoy visits Maoist camps amid fears over peace process

As no single party is able to cobble together the required number of MPs even after nearly 6 months, why aren't they calling for mid-term polls? Is there anything in their temporary constitution that is preventing this - nearly 6 months of caretaker govt they've had
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Hiten wrote: As no single party is able to cobble together the required number of MPs even after nearly 6 months, why aren't they calling for mid-term polls? Is there anything in their temporary constitution that is preventing this - nearly 6 months of caretaker govt they've had
An oft asked question: why is there no fresh elections in Nepal? The simple answer is that it is a chicken and egg situation. The premise is that any election process needs an agreed framework on interim power-sharing before power can be actually vested in a body and/or shared.

For example, in 1947, power was transferred from the British Raj to the Congress and the Muslim League with the de jure understanding that they were the solemn bodies capturing the will of the people. In the elections to the Central Legislature (in December 1945) and the Provincial Assemblies (in January 1946), both the Congress and the League had contested with an express belief that the results would determine whether the will of the people was with them or otherwise, even though prior to the announcement of the Elections, through and after the Elections, both contested the legal validity of such an exercise. While the Congress had won almost all of the unreserved seats, the League won almost all of the reserved seats, which was interpreted in many ways by many people, least of all the legal luminaries on either side. Note that the will of the people could be tested only in the Provinces, which left out almost all of the Princely States (making up almost 45% of the undivided Indian landmass). That is why the transfer of Paramountcy from the British Raj straight to the Indian Union (or Pakistan as the case may be) was such an important task. While the elections paved the way for the writing of the Constitution, Patel and Menon went ahead with the integration process. This was achieved in two ways: one, a Standstill Agreement was signed with each Princely State which ensured that status quo was maintained in terms of trade, communications, etc. (with the dominion of India) even after the dominions of India and Pakistan were promulgated. Two, an Instrument of Accession was signed by the ruler(s) and the due representatives of the Indian Union (VP Menon in many cases, others in some cases) as and when the negotiation process was concluded. In some cases, this was swift, while in certain Princely States, the process stretched itself through 1949 (Hyderabad, Manipur, etc. are notable examples). All this while, the duly constituted Constituent Assembly was preparing the draft document called the Constitution to codify the rules that determine the real processes of elections and power-sharing, in addition to the rights and privileges that the Citizens could enjoy. While the Republic was instituted in 1950, the first General Elections under universal adult franchise did not happen till 1951-52 with the first Lok Sabha convened in April 1952.

Back to Nepal, and some history. We all know how the maoists fought a pitched battle against the Monarchy and the Royal Nepal Army in the Ninetees and through 2005. On February 1, 2005 the royal takeover under King Gyanendra was further advanced as the King appointed a government led by himself and at the same time enforced martial law. The King argued that civil politicians were unfit to handle the Maoist insurgency. A broad alliance against the royal takeover called the Seven Party Alliance (United People's Front) was organized, encompassing about 90% of the seats in the old, dissolved parliament (elections held in 1999). In December SPA signed a 12-point understanding in New Delhi with the Maoists under Prachanda. Within the framework of that understanding, Maoists committed themselves to multiparty democracy and freedom of speech. SPA, for their part, accepted the Maoist demand for elections to a Constituent Assembly. Both sides agreed to establish absolute democracy by ending hereditary monarchy in Nepal.

As the culmination of this process, Nepal was rocked by what is labeled as the Jana Andolan 2 (see Footnote 1). With Nepal ambling from crisis to crisis, the King sued for peace on April 21, 2006 as he announced that he would return political power to the people and called for elections to be held as soon as possible. The SPA on its part made three demands: reinstitution of the old parliament; formation of an all-party government; and elections to a Constituent Assembly that will draft a new constitution. On April 24, the SPA government under Girija Prasad Koirala took over. With the SPA's goals realized(!), there were fears that the 12-point agreement with the Maoists and the demands for a Constituent Assembly would be forgotten. In addition, the Maoists wanted the monarchy to be abolished. The SPA bargained a status quo with the Maoists and on, May 18, 2006 the Parliament unanimously voted to strip the King of many of his powers. In addition, Nepal was declared a secular country as a Hindu Kingdom would need a monarchy to accord legitimacy.

While the 12-point agreement was the pre-monarchist understanding between the Maoists and the SPA, a new agreement had to be bartered in the wake of new realities. In the post-May 18 phase, peace talks were pursued and on November 21, 2006 a Comprehensive Peace Accord was signed between Prime Minister Girija Prasad Koirala and Prachanda. The deal allowed the Maoists to take part in government, and place their weapons under UN monitoring. Elections to the formation of a Constituent Assembly were scheduled to take place before December 15, 2007, but could not happen till April 10, 2008. There were many causes for the delay: the Election Commission was not adequately prepared, the Maoists wanted a Republic to be declared right away (even before the Constitution could be drafted), and on what kind of adult franchise to be used (fully proportional vs. mixed), etc. More on the adult franchise issue at http://asiafoundation.org/in-asia/2007/ ... new-nepal/
The Constituent Assembly Election Act proposed by the interim government attempts to define an election system that will provide equitable representation for traditionally marginalized groups such as Madhesis, Dalits, Janjatis (indigenous ethnic communities largely from the hills), women, and others. While this is a laudable objective, it is also very difficult to achieve. The elections system chosen by the interim government is called Mixed Member Proportional (MMP), which is a combination of two different election systems: single member constituency (usually called First-Past-The-Post or FPTP), and closed list proportional representation (PR). In Nepal, this means that 240 seats for Parliament will be selected through FPTP races in single-member constituencies, and a further 240 seats will be allocated to candidates on party lists so that the resulting Parliament will proportionally reflect the national popularity of each party. The Cabinet will appoint 17 additional seats. Voters will cast two ballots, the first for a representative for their local constituency, and the second for a political party.
On December 15, 2007, the above numbers were amended and it was concluded that the Constituent Assembly elections would vote for 335 seats under the proportional representation system, 240 seats under the first-past-the-post elections with 26 members to be nominated by the Prime Minister. This makes the number of members in the Constituent Assembly 601 (the magic number that we see today).

With the elections set for April 10, 2008, an estimated 60% of the 17.6 million voters cast ballots. Results took several weeks (official and final list was announced on May 8, 2008) because of paper balloting, poor geography, etc. The CPN(M) won 220 out of 575 with 120 through first-past-the-post constituencies and 100 through proportional representation. The 26 members were nominated in the same fraction as received by each party (thus the Maoists got 9 out of 26 and so on). The Nepal Congress got 37, 73 and 5, while the CPN(ML) got 33, 70 and 5 FPTP, proportional and nominated seats, respectively. More on this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Nepal and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_C ... t_Assembly.

At the first session of the Constituent Assembly on May 28, 2008, the Assembly voted to declare Nepal a federal democratic republic, thereby abolishing the monarchy. The Constituent Assembly also decided that Gyanendra should leave the Narayanhity Palace within 15 days. Further, the major parties agreed on the creation of the position of President, while the Prime Minister was to hold executive powers; however, they reached no agreement on exactly what powers the President should have or who should become President. This is exactly what happens when the cart comes before the horse. In India, the role of the Governor General preceded till the Constitution could be agreed upon. In Nepal, the Constituent Assembly had not even commenced the process of writing the Constitution and yet, the logic of a President was agreed upon.

The same can be said about the Constitution writing process. It has been besieged by the Maoists' tempestuous tantrums, and by the lack of popular legitimacy despite an overwhelming support for the same during the elections. In particular, Article 64 of the interim constitution had called for the Constitution to be written within two years of the first assembly of the Constituent Assembly (which would have made the deadline May 28, 2010). As this process was nowhere in sight on May 28, 2010, the Eighth Amendment Bill was passed (and immediately assented to by the President Dr. Ram Baran Yadav) to change the timeline to "three years" from "two years." For this Bill to be passed, a three-point agreement was made under which the Maoists had demanded the resignation of the then Madhav Ku. Nepal government headed by the CPN(ML). This happened a month or so after May 29.

As of now, there is no legitimate government as no party has been able to cobble a majority. The interim Constitution demands that a candidate must have the support of a simple majority of the total membership of the House (300+ votes) and a 2/3rd majority of those present and voting (400+ votes if all are present) to become a Prime Minister. Even after repeated horse-trading and mud-slinging, neither the Maoists (which in itself is a divided house) nor the Marxist-Leninists (another divided house) and the Congress (yet another squabbling house) can get to such an idealistic benchmark. The reality for someone from the Maoists to become a Prime Minister is that he (or she!) needs the support of the Madhesis (80+ members) + the support of one other leading party. For either the CPN(ML) or NC, the task is even more steeper. Obviously, the Madhesis demand the heaven for support (they need an autonomous Madhes state). Neither the Maoists or the Congress can promise that as this will lead to major problems with the Nepalis and the Gorkhas. Emboldened by this move, the Janjatis will demand (not like they have not proclaimed already) autonomous republics such as at Kirat, Limbuwan, etc.

The provision of the interim Constitution means that the only viable formation is a consensus-based one. And there has hardly been any consensus in Nepal today. In fact, the Madhav Ku. Nepal caretaker government has been ambling along to pass the Budget and conduct the day-to-day business of the State (or even pay the Constituent Assembly members for that matter). Meanwhile, May 28, 2011 would have arrived sooner than later and yet the process of writing the Constitution would be nowhere in sight. Without a due written process, fresh elections cannot happen unless another interim and Comprehensive agreement (considering the realities of the situation as of that day) is signed by all the vested interests. Such an agreement can only be forged via the presence of a party that can soothe the tensions between the various sides that lead the debate inside Nepal (the Maoists, CPN(ML), NC, Madhesis, RNA and Monarchy). Obviously, that party is India. And India is in no mood to let the Maoists dictate terms to India and walk over to the Sansad. So the process will have to wait for nature to take its own course. Unless, all the interim parties agree to disband the Constituent Assembly and have fresh elections or even amend the 2/3 rule. The former would put the Maoists at a commendable disadvantage as there is no assurance that they will have overwhelming presence in a freshly constituted Constituent Assembly. And the latter would put the NC and CPN(ML) at the tip of self-destruction. There are more suggestions at http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/module ... 74&page=43, but all that requires some statesman-like behavior on the part of everyone. Needless to say, a logjam is the best way out when matters of honest give-and-take are at stake.

Footnote 1: Jana Andolan was the name of the civilian strife against the autocratic Birendra regime and increase in prices in 1990 as India embargoed Nepal in return for the monarchy's apathy to Indian security interests.
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Stan_Savljevic ji,

thanks for a well-written history lesson on Nepal!
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Thanks a lot Stan_Savljevic Saar for your explanation - cleared a lot of doubts - learnt a lot
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Defending Shri. Rakesh Sood and the MRP scandal in Nepal

Fake Wikileaks may have been used by Pakistan to spread mal-information about India. However, just like the shoe-throwing on Bush saw a few imitations, this fake Wikileak mission is also seeing some clones. Sankarshan Thakur of the "deciphering Laloo Yadav" fame had posted a report on The Telegraph, essentially dissing the Indian Ambassador to Nepal, Shri. Rakesh Sood. The Nepali media, waiting for a morsel in these hard-pressed times, ran with that lead (see Footnote 1) Linky 1 and Linky 2.

The MEA in response to these reports came out with a curt reply, which was also reported in The Telegraph. Now, not discounting the possibility that Sankarshan Thakur had access to some diplomatic sources, it is not hard to defend Shri. Sood's Ambassador-ship and India's actions in Nepal.
1) Telegraph reports that:
“He is a viceroy-style interventionist with little regard for diplomatic norms, he often behaves as if Nepal were his protectorate,” Mohan Vaidya “Kiran”, a top Maoist leader, had told The Telegraph during the raging row over the Nepal Army chief which eventually led to Prachanda’s premature resignation as Prime Minister.
Response: Yet, it is the same Mohan Baidya Kiran who launched a vituperative and hatred-filled monologue on India in the recently concluded Palungtar plenum. How come Mohan Baidya Kiran's tirade against Shri. Sood is par for the course while his equally vicious remarks on India are not reported? It is a well-known secret that a section of the Maoists rank and file see India as the number one enemy, as witnessed by one political line at Palungtar. It really does not matter whether Shri. Sood was an interventionist or otherwise, whatever he would have done would have been seen as evil. Period.
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Nepali domestic politics --- and the peace agreement between the Maoists and “mainstream” parties --- has remained deadlocked since Prachanda’s resignation, and many believe Sood to be a prime factor.
Response: The stalemate in Nepal has little to do with Shri. Sood or India. It is more of a show of force of the Maoists against the other democratic forces. What the Maoists could not obtain via democratic means, they would like to obtain via violent means. In fact, Prashant Jha writes on the Palungtar plenum:

In 2005, the Maoists decided at Chunbang that their immediate aim was a ‘Democratic Republic Nepal’. Their Kharipati meet in 2008 declared that the objective was to draft a constitution for a ‘People’s Federal Democratic Republic’ (PFDR). That aim persists, though many leaders at Palungtar used an alternative nomenclature – ‘People’s Federal Republican Nepal’. Chunbang led to consensus and Kharipati sharpened the polarisation. How Palungtar will play out in large depends on how far the Maoists push their political project.

Broadly, this is how the Maoists define PFDR Nepal – an executive presidency; federalism with nationality as a prominent basis; secular state; ‘democratisation’ of the Nepal Army; ‘first rights’ to local communities; ‘revolutionary’ land reform; and eventually, restricted multiparty political competition where ‘feudal and pro-imperialist’ parties will not be allowed to operate. The Maoists hope this framework would give the ‘people’ (read the party) a firm hold over the state, and break existing structures and nexus that govern policy. But intention is one thing and capacity, especially under the prevailing balance of power, another. A brief review reveals why this model provokes opposition from different sources and is not possible.

That is that, there are no ifs and buts to this story. Prachanda's resignation had more to do with his peeve that he could not enforce Shri. Rukmangad Katwal's resignation, which made him lose face. This ill-fated intervention by Prachanda in the working of the Nepal Army was opposed by everyone including the Nepali Congress and CPN(ML), let alone the former King. So what does India have to do with this story? Whether Jhalnath Khanal changed his mind on Katwal's resignation or otherwise, India has no locus standi on this. The bottomline on Katwal's sacking is that:
He has been fiercely resisting group integration of Maoist rebels into the National Army and has been at odds with Maoist government on several other issues.
Not only the Nepal Army, but almost every other party in Nepal, whether it be the Nepal Congress or the CPN(ML) or even the Terai-Madhes parties, have some issue or the other with the integration issue. In fact, the Maoists by letting the UN Mission to set up office in Nepal implicitly (as well as explicitly) agreed that this would be a major sticking point in impasse-reduction. Blaming India for the stalling of the peace process is like ignoring the elephant in the room. If Nepal was all hunky-dory, and all the parties involved in its internal debate are interested in the stakes of Nepal, and not that of China (as one section of the Maoist rank and file show occasionally), then India would have no problems in extricating itself from the goings-on inside Nepal.
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Many find it not strange that he is the first Indian ambassador to Nepal to have had his effigies burnt on the streets; last month, during a trip to northern Nepal, he also became the target of a shoe flung in his face. It missed, but it described the low trajectory of Sood’s image in the country.

Response: Anyone with a bare enough understanding of the stages of a Red Revolution will understand that dissing and spreading propaganda are par for the course in the maoist/leftist annals, whether it be an internal debate or an external tirade. There was an attempt to throw a shoe on Shri. P. Chidambaram, some Judges of the Supreme Court of India, Justices Arijit Pasayat and Ashok Kumar Ganguly of the Supreme Court, Justices A.V. Sawant and P.D. Upasani of the Bombay High Court, Shri. Naveen Jindal, Shri. L.K. Advani, and even Shri. Manmohan Singh. Internationally, similar attempts have been made on George Bush, Wen Jiabao, Benny Dagan, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Asif Ali Zardari, etc. If the orchestrated attempt at calumny on the part of Maoists is the low-point of Shri. Sood, can the same be said for Indian politicians? So why are the Home Minister and the Prime Minister not getting the sack for their policy decisions?
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A few months ago, he prevailed upon Indian corporate interests to stop advertising in “Kantipur”, Nepal’s largest media group, because its journalism had displeased him. It is also alleged he tried to turn the screws on Kantipur by putting a squeeze on newsprint supplies from India. It was only after the issue became public that restrictions on Kantipur were eased.
Response: Not much has been said about the conflict of interest in Kantipur and its skewedness of reporting and its orchestrated attempts to malign India. This is what the Hindu opinionated, in a sense of journalistic camaraderie:
While Kantipur’s dilemmas are understandable, its recent coverage does have traces of national chauvinism and appears opportunistic, linked to the advertisement embargo. While keeping big business — both domestic and Indian — to account, it should be careful and responsible enough not to tarnish companies whose contribution to manufacturing, trading, employment, and revenue is important to the Nepali economy.
Even while agreeing with the Kantipur version of the tit-for-tat, some problems remain. How come the feud between Kantipur and the Indian embassy become the central object of attention by everyone in Nepal, especially when there are more serious issues such as the stalemate on electing a Prime Minister, stalemate on the Constitution writing process, stalemate on integration of the Maoist cadre with the Nepal Army, meeting the various critical deadlines as agreed to in the 12-point agreement, etc.? How come the whole political class gets effectively snubbed by this one story while the fact that the country as such is NOT running is not cause for any serious snubbing? How come Nepal became synonymous with Kantipur?

The rhetorical reponse always to this is:

But, but India is the bigger part of the picture. You see, India created a trade blockade, changed the government at will, sheltered rebels, sustained monarchy, pushed out monarchy (some of it was his own doing), let a rebel with an army rule the country, are stopping them from coming to power...
This is exactly the cop-out, and in this regard Nepal is synonymous with Sri Lanka, blaming India for every one of their problems. "Taking charge of one's own destiny by electing an effective government" is a phrase that is seemingly absent in the Nepali lexicon. Why did the Nepalis not give an effective mandate to either party that contested the 2008-09 elections? Was it because the political class was inept that the Nepalis did not find favor with any of them overwhelmingly and hence, threw their votes in some random fashion, or was it because evil, big bad India yet again interfered with the poll process? Let me help in one logical sequence of this cop-out: the fact that the Nepali political class, cutting across party-lines, is corrupt should be a blame shared by India. The fact that the former King threw his tantrums at random and did not want a political class that could sustain itself is a blame that should be shared by India, of course. The fact that Nepal is land-locked and hence dependent on India is a blame to be shared by the evil India which let the Himalayas sandwich Nepal between itself and China. The fact that India should not demand an equal sensitivity for Indian security interests, in return for lifting of the embargo, is of course an anathema to international legalistic happenstance. If such an act happens in the United States, or with China, that is par for the course, while if it happens with India, India is evil, evil, EVIL (please add an accompaniment of a melliflous haunting tune).

When will Nepalis, both the political class as well as its people, take charge of their own destinies? It is a matter of life that everyone will try to further their own interests rather than work in a philanthropic way for others, whether they might share the same culture or religion is immaterial. India and Nepal are tied at the hip, but Nepal is a country of its own. With that knowledge, India has helped Nepal as much as it can by opening up its country to Nepalis, investing in those avenues which will lead to profit for its own benefits, etc. It is a symbiotic existence, but everyone has to take care of themselves too. The short border to Bangladesh will soon be opened up to hook into the Indian economic engine and the growth story. Yet, despite all that, it is a matter of fact that the Nepali political class as well as its media find India to be an able interlocutor of their own problems instead of resolving these problems on their own. With this mindset, companies such as Kantipur often complain when the interlocutor does not bat for them as if all the onus is on India to mediate on behalf of everyone inside Nepal. It is for the people of Nepal to unsheath such capitalistic traits and not be taken over by selective rhetoric.
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Sood was also backing a rather unsavoury Indian bid to grab the contract for machine-readable passport technology, for which Nepal had floated an international tender. The Indian quotation, it is learnt, was higher than several Nepal had received but Sood still wanted the job for India. He went so far as to put the Indian demand in writing to foreign minister Sujata Koirala; the letter was later leaked to the Nepali media, to some embarrassment for New Delhi.
Response: The last has not been said on this issue. After the Maoists- and Kantipur-sponsored ruckus, the Machine Readable Passport (MRP) deal was given to Oberthur, a French company. In fact,
Oberthur has offered to supply MRP at US$ 3.59 per copy (the earlier Indian bid was for US$ 4 per copy), including the personalisation system, technical support and others. As per the bidding documents, the French firm has to provide 400,000 MRP copies as its first consignment within 70 days of its agreement with MoFA. The reason for this rush is that Nepal missed two previous deadlines to embrace the smart passport owing to differences among top officials over the deal to print and supply it. Upon the government’s request, the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) had extended the deadline to January 1, 2011 upon the government’s request. After this date, MoFA cannot distribute the hand-written passport currently in use. Three other companies – the UK’s De La Rue, Indonesia’s Perum Peruru and Singapore’s Three M Technology—were also vying for the bid.
In addition Herald reports this:

However, now with the new contractor to be decided by Nepal's foreign ministry this week, there are allegations of kickbacks. Two of the other competitors, Britain's De La Rue and Indonesia's Perum Peruri, Monday filed complaints with the foreign ministry about the French company's offer, saying it does not meet the specifications laid down in the bid documents.
ToI adds:
Under normal circumstances, complaints against bids makes it mandatory for the bid to be re-evaluated. However, in this case, Nepal's foreign ministry officials rode roughshod over the complaints and awarded the contract to Oberthur.
I digged up more on what action the MoFA took on allegations of wrong declarations. This is what I discover:
The two competitors — Indonesia-based Perum Peruri and UK based security printing firm De La Rue — had claimed that the bid winner Oberthur had offered a non-compliant printer technology, besides producing fake user certificates while presenting the bidding documents needed to supply MRP to Nepal. According to an email provided by Perum Peruri, the Korean Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade had not undertaken any job with Park and OPC Co for personalisation of printers as claimed by Oberthur Technologies. It has proposed to use products of Park and OPC Co for personalisation of passports and has also submitted the user certificate from Korea.
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The ministry had dispatched the documents to the concerned authorities abroad through the respective Nepali missions at Seoul and New Delhi and had also inquired of the Kathmandu-based Japanese and Korean embassies. MoFA had requested them to verify the authenticity of the documents submitted by Oberthur Technologies—the lowest bidder of the global tender for the multi-million dollar bid to provide MRP. With no response from the concerned authorities with regard to verifying the documents in question, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) today decided to go ahead with its decision to award the French firm the contract to print and supply Machine Readable Passports (MRP). “We didn’t receive any response, either positive or negative from the embassies where we had sent the documents submitted by the bid-winner Oberthur Technologies till the end of our five-day deadline,” said Mukti Nath Bhatta, Chief of Protocol of MoFA, adding, “So we decided to go ahead with our earlier decision to award the global tender to the lowest bidder—Oberthur Technologies.” The secretary-level decision of Dr Madan Kumar Bhattarai was made as per the Public Procurement Act (PPA).

Talking to journalists, Bhatta said he didn’t know what to do if the ministry received a response later, since the PPA was silent about that provision. Bhatta said, as per the PPA, the ministry has already informed two companies that had filed complaint about the ministry’s decision. He said the two companies could challenge the decision at the Public Procurement Monitoring Office (PPMO) in the next seven days if they are not satisfied with the decision.
ToI also adds:

Though the Indian company did not take part in the earlier bid process, yet its offer, in retrospect, was the most beneficial for Nepal. India had offered to train Nepali personnel to print the personalisation details so that they would have remained confidential. However, the new contract says Oberthur would have access to such details, which would pose a threat to Nepal's national security. From India's point of view, the job by the Indian company would have ensured additional security features in the Nepali passports that would have made them difficult to forge. Hundreds of Nepali passports are stolen, get lost or are faked every month and India fears they could be used by terrorists to enter India and mount operations against Indian targets.
More on the personalization issue from here:
Under the new provisions in the tender, the contracting party will not only own, control and maintain the equipment and software for personalization of the passports for five years till the contract term expires, it will also exclusively handle the digitized personal information for printing the passport, which poses serious threat to national security. The contracting party will be handed over the personal information of the passport holders by the Nepalese officials who will be doing the clerical work of receiving the applications and feeding-in the personal information. The government will have no control if this information is misused by the contractor to the detriment of the passport holders, and can even have serious consequences for the national security.

The earlier deal with the SPMCIL was only for the supply of blank passports, and the personalization to be done by the Foreign Ministry staff themselves. The Government of India would have provided the equipment, software and the source code to the Government of Nepal and trained the Foreign Ministry officials for carrying out the personalization. The Government of Nepal would have fully owned, controlled and maintained the equipment right from the commencement of the project. It would have also fully owned and controlled the personalization process, with this personal information of the Nepalese passport holders strictly remaining secure with the Government of Nepal.
So much for accusations that India was going to plant "mini"-chips in the MRPs and steal data. More on the differences:
The proposed specifications of the passport in the new tender include paper based cover and inner pages instead of cotton fabric based cover and inner pages proposed by SPMCIL. The inferior quality of the material in the new tender will severely affect the shelf-life and durability of passport as well as the possibility of tearing of visa leaves. The damaged passports will, no doubt, constantly hassle the passport holders.
But over all this, the serious accusation of graft also has precedents (see also Linky):

Sources in the printing industry revealed Francois-Charles Oberthur Fiduciaire’s $34-million contract to supply passport-making equipment was scrapped by the Kenyan government in 2004 on questions over the increased cost (overpriced contract) and absence of bidding in the awarding of the contract.
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Francois-Charles Oberthur Fiduciare had also figured in the embarrassing printing of 80 million P100 bills that misspelled President Arroyo’s surname to “Arrovo” in November 2005. The political opposition claimed the mistake was intentional, pointing out “rovo” in Spanish means robbery.

There is also a report of similar stuff from Albania:
The Commission invited five well known companies in the area of banknotes production, such as, “De la Rue”, England, “Giessecke Devrient”, Germany, “Osterrichische Banknoten”, Austria, “Oberthur”, France and “Tumba Bruk”, Sweden to submit their bids in a certain date. The invitation also contained a technical index describing the technical requirements for the banknotes. The Commission also had the right to accept additional proposals made by the companies as it judged fit for the safety of banknotes. Four companies took part in the tender and the commission found that all of them had complied with the conditions set by it. The Procurement Commission selected the French company as the winner of the tender as it had offered the lowest bid among the four companies in the tender.

About a month after the conclusion of the tender, the head of the Procurement Commission submitted to the defendant the decision of the Commission which had selected the French company as the winner of the tender alongside an explaining report of all the actions undertaken during the procedure. The decision and the report were signed by all the members of the Commission. However, another technical report was submitted to the defendant suggesting that the bank may negotiate with the winning bidder for any additional safety elements which may deem appropriate. The second report was not signed by the Head of the Commission and the lawyer of the bank, who was a member of the commission. In fact, the law did not require such a second technical report and never had there been a second report in all previous tenders held by the Bank.

Albanian Governor assigned the defendant in a group of five persons, to sign the contract with the French company that had won the tender. During the process of drafting the contract, the French side proposed to change one safety element for a single type of the banknotes. However, the new safety element would cost the Bank an additional of USD
583,550, 1/6 of the initial bid, above the bid offered by the company in the first place. This additional safety element was discussed during the tender procedures but was not accepted by the Procurement Commission. Finally, the defendant signed the contract with the French company accepting the new safety element which had in effect changed the bid initially offered by the company during the tender. Eventually, the bid accepted by the defendant was much higher than the one offered by the bidder and accepted by the Commission during the tender procedures. The court observed that the act of the defendant whereby he had unlawfully and with no authority increased the bid of the company had unjustly favoured the French company and discriminated other companies and breached the equality of the participants in the tender an offence provided under article 258 of the Code.
I am sure that if one digs more, there could be more details of corruption. But the following point deserves more attention than just overt corruption. Herald also adds:

In addition, it now emerges that the Indian company became the victim of a deliberate smear campaign. A section of Nepal's media alleged that the Indian company was going to use "micro chips" in the passports that would be used to track down the movements of the passport holders and would pose a grave threat to Nepal's national security. In reality, as per the agreement signed between the governments of India and Nepal in March, the passport deal would have seen the Indian company provide only the blank passport booklets, set up an office in Nepal and train a Nepali staff. It would then have been the Nepali officials who would have recorded personal data in the passport booklets and India would not have been privy to the confidential information.
Planted news in the media is not new, as we in India very-well know as the menace of paid news has become overground. This is what HT and NN reported after the Oberthur deal was struck.
The Indian Embassy has clarified that Oberthur Technologies, the French company that has been awarded the printing contract of Machine Readable Passports (MRPs) by Nepal government, is not linked with the manufacturing of e-passports for India. "Attention of the Embassy has been drawn towards certain media reports claiming that Oberthur Technologies 'has been short-listed for manufacturing e-passports for India', which is factually incorrect," the Embassy said in a press release Tuesday.
This about a company that claims that:
Oberthur's Fiduciary Division is the world's third largest private banknote producer, specialized in printing and personalisation of secure documents for government applications.
should explain the number of planted news items in the Nepali media. This is not the end of it all, either. On November 28, NN and Kantipur reported that:
Oberthur had to supply 400,000 copies of the passports, including 1,000 diplomatic, 15,000 special and 25,000 travel documents by November 5 as per the contract between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) and Oberthur Technologies in August. The French company is liable to fines for failing to meet the deadline. However, MoFA is in a fix over the period for which to charge the firm.

However, only a few thousand copies of MRPs have arrived at the foreign ministry as of now. It's still not certain how soon the passports will arrive. The company has said, it has already completed printing the passport books and is in the process of shipping them. It has cited the labour strikes in France and the recent terror plot in the Middle East for the lack of a cargo plane to Nepal as the cause for delay in delivering the MRPs on time. Oberthur missed the 70-day deadline to deliver the first consignment by 12 days and the agreement does not clearly mention what should be done in such a case.
Finally, MoFA announced on December 3 that they have received 40,000 MRPs (far short of the 400,000 needed) and MRPs will be issued to the public from December 24. It is to be waited and seen if this imaginary deadline will actually be met. So what happens to the penalty clause that Oberthur pay a fine for not meeting the contractual stipulation. On p. 13 of the contract signed between MoFA and Oberthur, we have: "Liquidated damages for delay in performance is: 0.05% of the Contract price per day with maximum deduction not to exceed ten (10) percent of the Contract price." There is no further talk about penalties, such is the well-written contract between MoFA and Oberthur. Already there are indications that the ambiguity in the contract clause will be used to let Oberthur pay only a small fine:
It is said that the company is being protected on the pretext of confusing situation in the agreement. Neither the controversial agreement clearly mention that what should be done in such a case nor the officials paid their heed towards the delay, which is under suspicion, said the official preferring anonymity.
So let me summarize:
a) Foreign Secretary Madan Kumar Bhattarai and Indian Ambassador to Nepal Rakesh Sood had signed an agreement on March 24 to procure four million MRPs from the Nasik-based Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India for US$ 4 per passport. This is so that Nepal could finally meet its ICAO obligations. Since India has increased its domestic production, it can now meet international demands.
b) India is accused of bulldozing through the contract with planted news, fake attempts at spreading mis-information and through wilful propaganda.
c) The tender stipulations are changed to ensure that India cannot bid again. The tender is awarded to Oberthur while the other contestants claim that Oberthur has misrepresented information in the tender application. The winning tender costs less per passport that the Indian contract, but uses sub-standard security features and paper instead of cloth cover. Oberthur will also hold the personal information of the passport-seekers thereby putting their personal securities at a grave risk.
d) Questions are asked to the Nepali embassy in Korea and France about these allegations, but they never respond. Using the ambiguity clause, the tender is confirmed and the MoFA signs a contract with Oberthur.
e) It emerges that Oberthur has been involved in kickbacks and massive corruption in Kenya, Phillipines and Albania among other countries, so questions of graft in this case are not to be ignored.
f) The first batch of 400K MRPs expected to arrive by November 6th never arrive on time. Oberthur cites terror alert in Yemen, workers strike in France, etc., for these delays.
g) As the contract only makes a cursory statement about penalties for not meeting the contractual obligations, it is not clear that MoFA will use the "Force Majeure" clause to let Oberthur go scot-free.

I believe Shri. Rakesh Sood's position in this game was stacked up. There is not much point cribbing about what he did or did not do, when the games being played by others did not meet any sense of governmental or organizational propriety. Declaring a signed contract null and void and not paying damages to SPMCI (yes, SPMCI sent two letters seeking damages of US$ 48,000) does not augur well in this direction.
6) If you forgot I am still considering the Telegraph piece with a minor diversion into the MRP deal:

Shortly thereafter, Indian embassy officials were reported threatening Madhesi members of the Constituent Assembly with unpleasant consequences if they voted for Prachanda in several failed run-offs to replace Madhav Nepal, the lameduck Prime Minister.

Response: Why is the fact that Krishna Bahadur Mahara caught in a sting getting money from the Chinese not a part of the same equation? Why is the fact that Beijing sent a representative to the annual conference of the Madhesi Jana Adhikar Forum last year not an issue at hand? Why is open Chinese meddling a la the following ok?:

More embarrassing for the Nepali government was the pressure it was subjected to when President Ram Baran Yadav planned to visit a Buddhist monastery in Boudha last year to inaugurate the centenary celebrations of a Buddhist monk. Chinese officials in Kathmandu warned the government that the visit would be interpreted in Beijing as aiding and abetting anti-Chinese activities. President Yadav canceled his visit an hour before his scheduled arrival at Boudha. Boudha is home to a large number of Tibetan refugees.
Meanwhile, Nepal acquisces to China yet again, without a whimper of protestations: Linky
The caretaker government of Nepal, under mounting pressure both at home and the international community over its failure to demobilise the guerrilla army of the opposition Maoist party, has directed its ambassador to Norway and the US, Suresh Chalise, not to attend the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo.
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Nepal’s capitulation comes at a time when China is also pressing Kathmandu to sign two revised bilateral treaties. Besides a revised peace and friendship treaty that would replace the pact signed in 1960, Beijing is also asking Nepal to sign a new cultural cooperation agreement that will upgrade the earlier one inked in 1964 and revised in 1999.
It seems like if China threatens Nepal, it is ok, but if India does something in its interests, whether they be acts that are deplorable or otherwise, it is an act of terrible interventionism or neo-colonialism.

It is a FACT that Nepal and India share open borders, and India has a stake in what goes on inside Nepal for its own safety and security. Hijackings (such as the IC-814) have happened in the past despite Indian warnings that such incidents could happen, counterfeit money is still funneled into India from the open borders via ISI modules, China has set up 100s of safe-houses across the Indian border to monitor the goings and comings in India, terrorist groups often take umbrage across the porous borders, etc. In fact, Niranjan Hojai of DHD(J) and Anthony Shimray (a gun-runner for NSCN(IM)) were nabbed in Kathmandu by joint actions between the NIA and Nepal Police whereas Jewel Garlosa was nabbed in Bangalore after he was tracked all the way from Kathmandu. What to say of cross-border connections to Indian maoists and as a safe-ground for petty criminals. Nepalis even play an active role in the poll process in Bihar and some allegedly are even MPs. India bloody hell has a stake in Nepal. And that stake is not even comparable with that China holds in Nepal. In fact, India did not question Nepal much when the Khampa uprising was put down in 1974 at the behest of China. So why is it that Nepal has more issues when Indian interests are at stake? And what exactly is Sankarshan Thakur trying to stir in this whole bloody mess? For the sake of journalistic integrity, I hope that he declares his sources in the South Block.

Footnote 1: There seems to be a detente of sorts between the Indian establishment and the Nepali mainstream press, as a result of which critical articles on the Indian establishment seem to be taking a round-about route of sourcing from the Indian media. This seems to be a convenient alibi to overcome the Indian establishment's supposed issues with the running of such stories.
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Hiten, a direct answer to your question:
The parliamentary laws governing the election of the prime minister stipulate that once the process begins, it cannot be stopped unless it acomplishes the task it has set out to do: elect a new PM. The laws also do not allow amendment to the existing provisions. Put simply, so long as Poudel stays in the race, neither Maoist Chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal nor UML chief Jhalanath Khanal, who have withdrawn from the race, can become prime minister.

Surely, Speaker Subas Nembang owes an explanation to the public as to why he is allowing these serial elections without the political parties first reaching a consensus on the next prime minister. He has given in to pressure from the Maoists and the UML faction led by Khanal in continuing to hold one inconclusive election after another. Trust the stickler lawyer in Nembang to go by the book. He has ruled out any amendment, pointing out that the constitutional provisions and procedures cannot be flouted to begin a new process to form the government.
Added: From what I glean from the Nepali press (old stuff that is), Prachanda was told to "stuff it" by the chinese when he went calling for the Shanghai Expo. He came back to Kathmandu and asked for a tri-partite agreement between India, China and Nepal :).
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Kathmandu: The former Nepal crown prince, Paras Shah, allegedly fire into the air during a heated argument with the newly-wed daughter and son-in-law of Deputy Prime Minister Sujata Koirala at an upmarket resort on Sunday.

Mr. Shah (38), the only son of the deposed king, Gyanendra, allegedly got into a verbal duel with Ms. Koirala's daughter Melanie after a drinking session.

No one was injured in the incident, sources said. Mr. Shah, in a statement, sought to defend his action, saying he could not bear insults against himself and his family.

Though no official complaint has been filed so far, the incident dominated newspaper front pages in Nepal on Monday and various political groups called for the arrest of the former prince, who returned to his country recently after a brief self-imposed exile in Singapore.

According to close friends of Ms. Koirala, the firing took place at the Tiger Tops Resort at Chitawan National Park in southern Nepal where Melanie and her Bangladeshi husband, Subel Chaudhary, were also present. During the argument, a drunk Mr. Shah held Ms. Koirala's father, the late Girija Prasad Koirala, responsible for hatching the conspiracy to abolish monarchy.

Witnesses said Mr. Shah, who was accompanied by his wife and young son, had to be escorted out from the dining hall for shouting at the guests.

Nepalese media quoted witnesses as saying the former prince fired as many as five times in the air. — PTI
Shows the extent of the DIE infection....
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Paul, Sujata Koirala is the now-deceased GP's only daughter. She was married to a German guy (some Jost something). They are now separated. Melanie is the daughter from that relationship. That is Rubel Chaudhary, not Subel, a Bangladeshi. It seems more like an innocent affair than something that was planted.

Sujata is probably the most pro-Indian voice in NC, she went quite a bit in opposing the MRP cancellation. In fact, she was made Deputy PM not so far back and that too after India pushed her "crowning," given that GP's imminent end was very clear. While NC now runs under Sher Bahadur Deuba, the PM contestant was/is Ram Chandra Poudel. Deuba is 64+. RCP and Sujata form the "youngistan" brigade in NC. Another recent entry from the Koirala family is Sushil Koirala, who now wields considerable power. There is a floating rumour that Manisha is trying to launch herself into NC politics. After her first movie or so, she has now released one movie in Nepali and is seen more often in Nepal than in Bombay. Overall, NC is pro-Indian given that the Koiralas are/were based in Biratnagar, just outside the [edited: Jogbani (Bihar) border]. Swami Ramdev was just there giving his yoga lessons. When King Mahendra was around, the fledgling democracy movement and the clamor for a Maha Panchayat were based out of that border area -- hence the soft corner of GP and family for India.

Paras has been trying his stunts into catching the limelite, so is his father Gyanendra. But overall the anti-monarchist feeling is far stronger than what Gyanendra can help. Issue is, all the parties are corrupt and are hopeless in terms of governance that in the worst case scenario of endless crises the monarchy may get another shot. Far-fetched but plausible. Paras is no baby in the woods at 39. He has some huge businesses based out of Singapore and was last seen stealing some state-cash.
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Rahul, you had asked why is the Nepali press/popular opinion so anti-Indian? I think I flubbed it when I answered that. I guess the core reason is something more complicated than just insecurity, which is all there on the surface. Let me try to articulate and vaguely generalize what I have in mind.

From what little I have read of the Nepali press, I would plot a U-shaped figure for Nepal where on the Y-axis is plotted the tolerance to opinions and on the X-axis the level of radicality (less radical <-- --> more radical) of ideas. What I mean to say is that Nepali press is good at articulating really revolutionary ideas as well as completely status quo-ish opinions. The only ideas that are not very well tolerated are ideas that are not strong on thinking and land right in the middle and becomes a useless idiot in terms of opinionating. In India, barring a few exceptions, it is almost the reverse. We have an inverted U-shaped Press corps. Any idea that is revolutionary will get little to no shrift. Any idea that sparks sedition will be browbeaten. For that we have to track our Constitutional evolution vis-a-vis Nepal.

Bare basics, Nepal does not have a Constitution as yet. So what is sedition is not crystal clear and has not been clearly articulated by precedents. Press can and does push the envelope. In India, it is clear as to what is sedition. Not only by means of a clearly defined UAPA, but also in the sense that people can subconsciously understand what is pushing things too far. You might cite Arundhati Roy or SAS Geelani's statements, but these are just tip of the iceberg compared with what you will see in the Nepali press. The Press can and often is openly derisive as well as dripping in sarcasm. At the same time, there is a lot of talk on revolution, freedom, emancipation, ityadi. In India, you better shape up and conform or pretty quickly you will get shipped out. You wont get the news feeds, you wont get the breaking news leads, you wont get the interviews, you wont get the inside scoops, you wont get the promotions, etc. In Nepal, it is a way of life to rebel. In India, if you want to rebel, you better be a rebel with a really well-articulated and carefully planned out cause. Anything short of that is illegal or not tolerated. By symbiosis, acts of moral or verbal sedition are verboten.

In India, we do not understand this aspect. When we look at Nepal, we see it from our own tinted glasses. It looks like a chaotic system. And in many sense it is, but it is NOT a system in a non-equilibrium state. Nepal is fine. Just like our Northeast is fine. Things pretty quickly settle down. Even the Maoists cant unshackle the system without a great resistance. They have to be palsy with everyone who claims to be a victim, be it Janajati or women or Dalits or the landless and the poor. But more to the point, this chaotic system where revolution and sedition are par for the course, articulates ideas on cross-border matters in exactly the same coinage they use for describing their own situation. While we see seditious ideas as cop-outs, and not being here nor there, that is the least common denominator in Nepal. We see Nepal with the same tint we see ourselves, why cant these effing losers, essentially the same, live together when we as a multi-dimensional society speaking a gazillion languages, believing in a multitude of ideas, practicing and preaching an assortment of belief systems coexist? We do not like what we see there, and we do not see what we like. Thats where the circle ends for me.
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Rubel Chaudhary may be a criminal, but there is no scope for Paras Shah to escape. Absolutely none, and he almost has. At least in "public opinion". If folks here worry about our ddm, the heights to which Nepali media can be manipulated and engineered has to be seen to be believed. With a land-owning zamindari class on one side, an ex-King and his clown that have all the worstest attributes of a Princely family*, others at far below subsistence level, and a fourth estate that is manipulatable at will, truly, there is no redemption for Nepal. Unfortunately, it will continue to burn and that has nothing to do with India, it is the internal contradictions of what makes Nepal today. I will have to write more "Defending xyz" stuff, that much is a sure thing for most Nepalis think that if the other side is silent, they are right.

Paul, is there an email where I can reach you? Thanks.

*: I shudder to ask What If? for India under the Rajpramukh system, not that I miss the various Scindias, Arjun Singhs, VP Singhs, Diggy Rajas or the Chidambarams. Truly, we are all blessed to have at least as much say as we do despite the dynastic rubbish. And Sikkim should be thankful. And yes, I pity Hrithik Roshan. I take all the above back and apologize for having a positive opinion on Nepali media-morons, if someone can bring phenyl and flush on the way out, that will be even better.
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Stan Savljevic, excellent message, more like an article. This is the kind of commentary we need to see in the _international_ press, one that acknowledges and respects the Indian sensibility, while noting the difference between India and Nepal in terms of their media and political culture. Unfortunately, the international media tends to promote the stock-in-trade, and probably minority, perception in Nepal of the Indian big brother or hegemonic India. Nuanced observations of the Nepali culture of rebellion and of making outrageous statements( particularly if they are related to India) are wholly missing.
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Chit-chat from the Nepali press:
Still licking his wounds from the Gorkha Plenum, The Awesome (Prachanda) is now trying to woo The Physician (Mohan Baidya Kiran) in order to sideline The Doctor (Dr. Baburam Bhattarai). Even though PKD got his party to declare India The #1 Enemy, he is behaving as if his real enemy is BRB. He has met MBK repeatedly to forge an alliance. After all, there is no substantial diff between the papers presented by PKD and MBK to the Plenum, whereas there is a deep ideological and personal rift with BRB. The only trouble for Chairman Fearsomeness is that he has lost the trust of other political leaders and even within his party, he is known as someone who says one thing and does another. We have it on good authority that now Com Kiran wants PKD to give all his commitments in writing.
With the CentCom meeting postponed again, Com Baburam is in campaign mode, trying to build up support within the party. The Palungtar Conf underlined his weaker support base within the party because PKD’s clout is bolstered by his control over the extortion apparatus. BRB is trying to
counter this with the force of his pragmatic ideas, but he doesn’t stand a chance when it is money that talks.

The PKD camp, however, is elated by rumours in the Indian press of the recall of the Indian ambassador. They are preparing to celebrate this as a major victory for not just the party but for the Chairman’s anti-Indian
‘Prachanda Path’. Hacks in Delhi sympathetic to the Yechury-Karat line seem to be feeding leaks in the Indian media about a major rift within a fractious South Block on India’s current Nepal policy of keeping the Baddies out of power by hook or crook.

PKD’s offer to let RCP become PM has the NC leader salivating. And like the Pavlov Effect, just dangling a post has made kangresi factionalism erupt all over again. Awesome understands the NC better than the NC
understands itself.

Kingji came back much more enthused from his India trip this time. The meeting with Queen Sonia and the BJP seems to have gone well. But the message was the same everywhere: no flirting with the Baddies, and
no rocking the boat. What boat?
Ironically, Paras Shah has received support from the Maoists, who are accusing the government of 'politicising’ the issue, and suggest that India might have orchestrated the whole affair. However murky the backgrounds of both protagonists in the incident are, both Shah and Chaudhary initially told the media that the former fired a pistol, though not at the latter, but in the air. This is indisputable. Even if Chaudhary had provoked Shah, which seems unlikely given the erstwhile prince’s long-standing reputation for violence, there is no justification whatsoever for the use of firearms. To defend such an action is extremely poor judgment on the part of the Maoists.

The only other people to be protesting the arrest of Shah are of course diehard royalists and RPP-N cadres, whose leader Kamal Thapa met with Maoist Chairman Dahal a few months ago to discuss how to form a ‘nationalist alliance’. This is clearly what has prompted the Maoist response, but it only reinforces the fear of the other political parties that the royalists and Maoists share little more than an opportunistic nationalism and a love of authoritarianism. The government, for its part, has already distinguished itself by taking Shah into custody, and should allow due process to be followed rather than give in to political pressure and street protests.

We all know the Maoists have plenty of reasons to criticise Nepali Congress and UML. This doesn’t mean they can’t agree with them on anything. At the end of the day, we’re all on the same flight. When someone starts shooting, you’re better off worrying about holes in the fuselage, not who’s shooting their mouth off.
Comrade Fierce One (Prachanda) is down with “a little bit of typhoid” according to his secretary-cum bodyguard-cum-receptionist cum-computer operator-cum-heir apparent son Prakash. The Dear One seems to have ticked off Makunay (Madhav Ku. Nepal) by not passing on the PM’s phone to Dad. MKN called PKD from Brussels a little before midnight, forgetting the time diff. Here is the transcript:

MKN: Hello.
Prakash: Who’s this?
MKN: I am Nepal.
Prakash: The country or the person?
MKN: The prime minister.
Prakash: Oh yeah? And I am Vladimir Illyich :). Don’t you know what time it is in Nepal? You think you can run the country? Go away, Dad’s sleeping. (Hangs up noisily).

Long and short of it is that MKN is not on speaking terms with PKD for the moment. And Makunay has stopped making phone calls himself, and lets his PA call. The quote of the week must be the prime minister admitting on his return from Belgium: “The reason I have been travelling so much is because it doesn’t matter whether I am in Nepal or not.” What has he been
drinking, the truth serum?
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Compared to these buffoons, Dr Baburam’s remarks at a book launch this week organised by the Nepal-China Society in the capital actually sound quite logical. BRB said (exact quote): “Buddhism is actually quite close to Marxist ideology. Lord Buddha held very progressive views.” Ahem. Comrade Buddha didn’t go around killing 16,000 people, but that’s a minor
point.
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CNG is the popular name of compressed natural gas used in metro cities. But it has a different meaning in some pockets of the state sharing borders with Nepal. It stands for Chinese goods, Nepalese women and gangsters. Smuggling of Chinese goods along the 725-km-long India-Nepal border is common for the past several years. These days, trafficking of girls has also become rampant. In fact Chinese goods, Nepalese women and gangsters have established an absolute control on the porous India-Nepal border in Bihar.
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