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Interesting that this Ass-emblage should be in the School of Bijnej. Means that they are getting $$$$$ from somewhere. Any idea where? ISI? 3 Rivers Foundation?
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This seems to be a new-fangled "Non Profit" think tank in the School of Business...Probably the start of a new wormhole that allows for Angana-type scum to penetrate the business establishment.
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Arjun wrote:This seems to be a new-fangled "Non Profit" think tank in the School of Business...Probably the start of a new wormhole that allows for Angana-type scum to penetrate the business establishment.
I know luck will not smile. But if it did I promise to interview each one of the worthies systematically. They are a stones throw away, but I am chained down for the moment.
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Actually, over the past 5-10 years, a number of desis seem to have gotten into humanities and social science departments all over the US, like those cretins at U Penn in English, Vinay Lal etc. This dovetails with the US academy becoming a radicalized left wing haunt in these types of things anyway, especially with the "feminists". White men in the US have been complaining about this radicalization for a while. The Indian lefties are merely copying the white western radicals, and the Hindu caste male is the big evildoer, the parallel to the white male in the US. Of-course, the major difference is that the caste Hindu male has never engaged in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, colonialism, Jim Crow, apartheid, Hirsoshima/Nagasaki, napalming, overthrowing other governments, genociding native Americans etc. But that little detail is lost and is unimportant. The same forces that are 'breaking India' have a parallel in the US with 'breaking America', except that the people who say that sort of thing in America are WASP males who also like colonialism, MacAulay etc.

Here is an example:
Irate Wellesley feminists v. annoying po-mo Plop artists

You have a sculptor, who has installed a model of a white guy in his underwear sleepwalking, and this has spooked all the women on campus, to who this is "triggering", meaning that it reminds them of sexual assault, rape etc. So even a lifeless white guy is a threat. Not surprisingly, an Indian woman is leading the chorus. Not too long before this sort of thing is transplanted to India as well.
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Raja Bose wrote:[
Harsh Mander, Teesta all are there - only one missing is Arundhoti, perhaps she will be invited as a visiting scholar. :lol:
This Mander man was member of NAC selected by Tarka and Mian Khalidi was invited by them and MMS released Khalis Lidh's book demanding islamic share in Armed Forces. After the meeting MMS came up with wise joke "muslim have the first right over Indian resources ". Teesta and Angana Combo is pure Polk/Pak street affair.
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shiv wrote:This gels in well with all that I have been hearing about the gradual decline of top US universities as temples of learning into cesspools of jealousies and plagiarism.
They were both in equal parts. You are saying that the balance is shifting? It is believable given the abysmal state of finances of CA and other big states like IL (Urbana), IN (Purdue), OH (Columbus). TX (A&M, College Station) is a question mark. MI (Ann Arbor) and WI (Madison) are doing better as they have bigger endowments. Georgia Tech. is certainly doing better so is VA (Charlottesville) and NC (Chapel Hill).
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They are most likely moles being given cushy jobs in exchange for services rendered.
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ramana wrote:
nvishal wrote:This Indrani Bagchi women is a joker. Every article she writes has over-the-top sentences.
Indians pride themselves in composing complex and compound sentences.
I wasn't talking about complex sentences. She writes filmy type dramatic sentences as if real life was a movie screenplay.
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A lot seems to have changed at Berkley since pater's days!

I was talking to a young friend today,professional ,branch head of a major corporate group that does business with the US,and shocked to find him so vehemently against the US. It appears that young educated people today are quite alive to global issues and who the true global trouble-makers are.He reeled off the numerous wars created by the US/west and the massive massive civilian casualties as a consequence,lakhs dead in Iraq and Afghanistan, that the US and western powers have described as mere "collateral damage" without any shred of remorse,while pontificating to poor developing nations the virtues of human rights. The DK issue especially, has awoken a whole generation of Indians to the manner in which the US treats us as "turd world" untermenschen,in true fascist form. There is going to be a huge blowback against the US in the not too far off future,as it tries to keep us under heel,preventing us from exercising our true legitimate potential and influence on global affairs.One thing is certain,that the next dispensation will be far more resilient and purposeful in foreign policy,as no regime can ever be as servile and nauseating as bootlickers and lackeys as that of Surrender Singh.
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U phorgot Narmada Dam :(( , Gujarat riots :(( , "Encounter" Pest-e-Sha'eeds :((, Anti-Conversion Law :(( , Anti-*ornography Laws :(( , Drug Laws :(( , anti-terrorism laws :(( , Drone Strikes in TSP :(( , Drone Strikes in Yemen :(( , imprisonment of Ghulam Nabi Fai :((, nuclear power plants :((, Trans-US pipeline :(( . Sooo many issues, so few writers...

Actually, I DON'T think these are cushy jobs. These are non-tenure-track positions, which in a university means slave to some prof. Unlike students, these are expected to hunt for their own food - OR, the prof(s) have won some major $$$$$ from entities such as Three Rivers Foundation or some other Foundation, or the Jubilee Mission Baptist Church or the Vaishnava Enlightenment (of naive suckers' wallets) Trust (as commie-paki as it gets) or Action Aid / Christian Aid, or the Oberlin Foundation (PRC $$$), ISI, KSA/Ummah, Al Qaeda, Medellin Cartel... u get the idea. Maybe a counter to RAND corporation, to write Position Papers for Barbara Boxer et al.

So, important to trace and anmolize the $$$ behind this, it sounds EXTREMELY dangerous. I somehow doubt if the SeeEyeAyh would give $$ to organizations that include AC, based on history. Note that ALL of these loud entities have been very suspiciously and uncharacteristically silent for the past year or more.

Remember the Day of The Jackal: the original giveaway was the fact that a gang of the worst had all gone silent and shut themselves up in one place. Dead giveaway that something REALLY BAD is coming. The last such event I can think of, was the event of February 28, 2002 in Godhra.

IOW, these Think Tanks are supposed to generate Papers and loud articles, hey? Where are they? If that is not what they are doing, what IS it that they are so busily and quietly doing? :eek:
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O Alla*!!
India serves as a case in point, given that several diverse parts of the country are beset by armed conflict. Civilian populations—especially children, youth, women and minorities—suffer in the absence of adequate governance, access to responsible development, and the preservation of human rights.

The National Human Rights Commission of India, in its submission to the UN Human Rights Council for India’s Second Universal Periodic Review (2008), stated: “There are inordinate delays in the provision of justice... There is still no national action plan for human rights.”

Drawing on international, regional, and local expertise, the project aims to develop two inter-related but separate outputs: a Policy document and several Protocols.

Contemporary conflicts and transitional contexts will inform the development of this policy and the protocols.

The regions of Jammu & Kashmir, Manipur, and Chhattisgarh are differently but persistently affected by conflict, with conflict-related issues intermittently occurring in Punjab. Additionally, areas such as Gujarat and Odisha have been impacted by far-reaching violence on minority communities in recent history.

These conflicts are spurred by a myriad of issues, including cultural and communal identity, religionization, self-determination, and economic empowerment. Such conflicts can have far-reaching human impact and lead to intense psychosocial and economic suffering of civilian populations in the affected areas, collapse of responsible governance, development, and social protection mechanisms, and can also have a broader disruptive effect impacting national, regional, and global security.

The importance of this project lies in the fact that nothing close to a policy framework with attendant protocols currently exists in India that protects civilians and their rights in areas of armed conflict and mass violence, in a way that is consistent with India’s legal, ethical, and constitutional obligations, even as brutal conflicts and suffering continue.

If such a policy framework is adopted in India, and appropriate technical protocols are implemented with the aid and participation of civil society and affected populations, it would serve as a model for other countries.

Objectives


In the development of the Policy and Protocols, this project will focus on questions of transitional and transformative justice.

These questions pertain to issues of access to justice and conflict resolution; accountability and human rights; governance and the rule of law; gendered violence; minority rights; religious freedom; memory and healing; commitment to nonviolence; mechanisms for restitution and redressal; and people’s rights and humanitarian considerations during and after conflict; as well as multi-sectoral approaches, including involving education technology and social enterprise, toward inclusive development.

Policy and Protocols:

The Policy will be a document proposing a general course of action with the long-term goal of justice and stability across the country.

The Protocols --blueprints of standards and steps for accountability and reparation pertaining to healing through reparatory, transitional, and transformative justice in areas of current conflict and post-conflict--will be specific to the issues presented by various conflicts in India.

Topics of the protocols will include:

Gendered violence and human rights during armed conflict and massified violence.
Casualties and missing persons.
Supporting survivors through holding all parties to the conflict accountable (army, paramilitary, police, and non-state armed groups).
Impunity laws and failures of legal justice.
Historical dialogue and alliance-building.
Social trauma, memory, and psychosocial restitution.
Humanitarian and socioeconomic development, such as women’s health, and access to education.

In the course of producing these outputs, the project will involve those affected by conflict in conceiving redress. It will initiate cross-cultural dialogue. The project will facilitate remembrance and documentation, and undertake to create an archive and web-based memorialization installations. It will involve progressive civil society and the next generation in India, the Diaspora, and the global community in dialogue on peace, nonviolence, and justice. The project will initiate pilot processes through which to identify mechanisms for psychosocial restitution and humanitarian efforts.

The project will draw on diverse and plural imaginations of rights and justice in local, customary, and global traditions, in creating a framework for acknowledgement and remorse, accountability and justice, and healing and restitution.
The project will avoid taking positions on political questions, focusing instead on human rights and humanitarian concerns.
Sure! With Angana C and Teesta Setalwad on board!!!!!

Question: What is missing from this list of supporting entities?
We are assisted by the following Partners:
Institute for the Study of Human Rights; Alliance for Historical Dialogue and Accountability, Columbia University.
International Human Rights and Conflict Resolution Clinic, Stanford University Law School.
International Human Rights Law Clinic, School of Law, University of California, Berkeley.
Asian Legal Resource Center, Hong Kong (holding general consultative status with the Economic and Social Council, United Nations).
Asian Human Rights Commission, Hong Kong.
Center for Equity Studies, Delhi.
Manipur Women Gun Survivors Network.
Prashant: Center for Human Rights, Justice, and Peace, Gujarat.
Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons, Jammu & Kashmir.
Khalra Mission Organization, Punjab.
Indian American Muslim Council.
Asian Federation Against Involuntary Disappearances, Philippines.
Scholar-Affiliates
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Paramjit Kaur Khalra, Khalra Mission Organization, Punjab.
Robert Nickelsberg, Photojournalist, New York.

Advisory Group :

Amitava Kumar, Helen D. Lockwood Professor of English, Vassar College.
Betsy Apple, Legal Expert and Adjunct Faculty, School of International and Public Affairs, Columbia University.
Chandra Talpade Mohanty, Professor of Women’s and Gender Studies, Sociology, and the Cultural Foundations of Education & Dean’s Professor of the Humanities, Syracuse University.
Charlie Clements, Executive Director, Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, Kennedy School, Harvard University.
Christophe Jaffrelot, Research Director, CNRS-Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, Paris.
Elazar Barkan, Professor of International and Public Affairs, Director of SIPA's Human Rights Concentration & Director of the Institute for the Study of Human Rights, Columbia University.
Homi K. Bhabha, Anne F. Rothenberg Professor of the Humanities in the Department of English & Director of the Humanities Center, Harvard University.
Inderpal Grewal, Professor, Women’s, Gender & Sexuality Studies, Yale University.
Jacqueline Bhabha, Professor of the Practice of Health and Human Rights, School of Public Health & Director of Research, François-Xavier Bagnoud Center for Health and Human Rights, Harvard University.
Judith Butler, Maxine Elliot Professor in the Departments of Rhetoric and Comparative Literature & Co-director of the Program of Critical Theory, University of California, Berkeley.
Jyoti Puri, Professor of Sociology, Simmons College.
Khurram Parvez, Program Coordinator, Jammu & Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society, Srinagar.
Laurel Fletcher, Clinical Professor of Law & Director of the International Human Rights Law Clinic, School of Law, University of California, Berkeley.
Nora Silver, Director, Center for Nonprofit and Public Leadership, Haas School of Business, University of California, Berkeley.
Paul Rabinow, Professor of Anthropology, University of California, Berkeley.
Richard M. Buxbaum, Jackson H. Ralston Professor of International Law (Emeritus), School of Law, University of California, Berkeley.
Richard Rudd, Sutter East Bay Medical Foundation, Berkeley.
Roxanna Altholz, Associate Director, International Human Rights Law Clinic, School of Law, University of California, Berkeley.
Sam Gregory, Program Director, WITNESS, New York.
Stefan Schmitt, Director, International Forensic Program, Physicians for Human Rights.
Vinay Lal, Associate Professor of History, University of California, Los Angeles.
Wendy Brown, Class of 1936 First Professor of Political Science, University of California, Berkeley.
Assisted by the following:

Research Associates: Alejandro Urruzmendi and Pei Wu :eek: .
Research Affiliates: Asif ETV, Haas-EWMBA 2013.
17 Wonderful interns and externs.
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Maybe this guy funded this (I guess kids got admission in exchange... )

http://newsroom.haas.berkeley.edu/artic ... ala-nov-15
http://haas.berkeley.edu/groups/pubs/be ... pists.html

2013 Business Leader of the Year
Family of Philanthropists

Douglas E. Goldman, MD, BA ’74, carries on a long tradition of giving
By Sean Elder

Long before founding a successful software company and becoming involved in various philanthropies, Dr. Douglas E. Goldman, BA ’74, completed his residency at one of California’s busiest emergency rooms. Valley Medical Center in Fresno was a fulcrum of activity, thanks to “two major freeways passing through with their commensurate accidents and a very active knife-and-gun club,” Goldman recalls.
[..]
And Goldman is carrying on the unique tradition with his own children, the sixth generation of philanthropists. His twin sons, Jason and Matthew, the family’s fifth generation of Cal graduates, serve on the advisory board of the Haas School’s Center for Nonprofit and Public Leadership. They also sit on the board of the 20-year-old Lisa and Douglas Goldman Fund, whose name reflects Goldman’s wife’s own passion for giving. “To me that was part of the marriage,” Goldman says. “That was something my wife would engage in with me and that my kids would continue this legacy.”
Goldman is chairman and founder of Certain Inc., a leading global provider of enterprise-level, event-management software solutions. In addition to serving as a member of the advisory board at Haas (which is named after his grandfather, Walter Haas), Goldman is a trustee of the UC Berkeley Foundation.

As part of the Campaign for Berkeley, Goldman and his wife, Lisa, gave $10 million to
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These entities were already active for the last 10-20 yrs. They have brought them under one umbrella. We will see a more concentrated effort from this school to channelize their energies against Indian, Hindu, Hindutva interests. I don't think this is serendipity.
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What the US's "strategic partners,nay allies intend doing to prevent Uncle Sam and pet poodle's snoopin'!
But contrast Germany's great indignation and condemnation of the US with India's servile acceptance of the same as if it was the most normal act of a so-called "friend".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 388.html[b]
Surveillance revelations: Angela Merkel proposes European network to beat NSA and GCHQ spying [/b]

Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany has announced plans to set up a European communications network as part of a broad counter-espionage offensive designed to curb mass surveillance conducted by the US National Security Agency and its British counterpart, GCHQ.

The move is her government’s first tangible response to public and political indignation over NSA and GCHQ spying in Europe, which was exposed last October with revelations that the US had bugged Ms Merkel’s mobile phone and that MI6 operated a listening post from the British Embassy in Berlin.

Announcing the project in her weekly podcast, Ms Merkel said she envisaged setting up a European communications network which would offer protection from NSA surveillance by side-stepping the current arrangement whereby emails and other internet data automatically pass through the United States.

The NSA’s German phone and internet surveillance operation is reported to be one of the biggest in the EU. In co-operation with GCHQ it has direct access to undersea cables carrying transatlantic communications between Europe and the US.

Ms Merkel said she planned to discuss the project with the French President, François Hollande, when she meets him in Paris on Wednesday. “Above all we’ll talk about European providers that offer security to our citizens, so that one shouldn’t have to send emails and other information across the Atlantic,” she said. “Rather one could build up a communications network inside Europe.”

French government officials responded by saying Paris intended to “take up” the German initiative.

Ms Merkel’s proposals appear to be part of a wider German counter-espionage offensive, reported to be under way in several of Germany’s intelligence agencies, against NSA and GCHQ surveillance.

Der Spiegel magazine said on Sunday that it had obtained information about plans by Germany’s main domestic intelligence agency, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, for a “massive” increase in counter-espionage measures.

The magazine said there were plans to subject both the American and British Embassies in Berlin to surveillance. It said the measures would include obtaining exact details about intelligence agents who were accredited as diplomats, and information about the technology being used within the embassies.

Last year information provided by the whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed that US intelligence agents were able to bug Ms Merkel’s mobile phone from a listening post on the US Embassy roof. Investigations by The Independent subsequently revealed that GCHQ ran a similar listening post from the roof of the British Embassy in Berlin.

Intelligence experts say it is difficult if not impossible to control spying activities conducted from foreign embassies, not least because their diplomatic status means they are protected from the domestic legislation of the host country.

Der Spiegel said Germany’s military intelligence service, (MAD) was also considering stepping up surveillance of US and British spying activities. It said such a move would mark a significant break with previous counter-espionage practice which had focused on countries such as China, North Korea and Russia.

Germany’s counter-espionage drive comes after months of repeated and abortive attempts by its officials to reach a friendly “no spy” agreement with the US. Phillip Missfelder, a spokesman for Ms Merkel’s government, admitted recently that revelations about NSA spying had brought relations with Washington to their worst level since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Der Spiegel claimed that on a single day last year, January 7, the NSA tapped into some 60 million German phone calls. The magazine said that Canada, Australia, Britain and New Zealand were exempt from NSA surveillance but Germany was regarded as a country open to “spy attacks”.
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UlanBatori wrote:O Alla*!!
Khalra Mission Organization, Punjab.
This Khalra guy was the most despicable man . He not only ignored all the Hindu Killings in Punjab but on many occasions justified the murders of Hindus using many excuses. He called himseff human right advocate but practically laughed at almost all the killings of many Anti Khali Hindus and Sikhs.
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Jhujar, I think you recognize the extreme seriousness of this wasp nest growing at Berkeley, hain? Same entities as described here, except new digs and UCBerkeley credentials. The other co-chair has apparently created a
critically acclaimed documentary film about the India-Pakistan conflict (which has been featured on National Public Radio, Al Jazeera and several international film festivals).


I can guess the nature of that, but anyone here seen/heard of it?
This is far worse than the situation described by Shakespeare:
When shall we three meet again,
in thunder, lightning or in rain?
People here seem to react with platitudes like Nero doing a fiddle kaccheri as Rome was being Godhra-ed.
Teesta Setalwad presence indicates fugitive status from all the FIRs in India about the perjury/fraud charges, I presume, plus serious INC black $$ funding.

The really outrageous declaration is at the end of their Introduction:
The project will avoid taking positions on political questions, focusing instead on human rights and humanitarian concerns.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

oh, YESSS!!! With that cast of characters. See "Lashkar-e-Pinocchio".
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UB, Note
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 0#p1596640

Teesta accounts seized in Mumbai.
Dated yesterday.
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UlanBatori wrote:Jhujar, I think you recognize the extreme seriousness of this wasp nest growing at Berkeley, hain?
It's a wasp's nest alright. What are the options?

1) Alert "conservative" regents (like Ward Connerly, not sure if he's still around, and has any brand value after all the anti-affirmative action ruckus in the 90s) of the UC system to look into whether extreme commie activism in a business school that is attempting to compete with HBS, Stanford, Wharton, Kellogg is appropriate and compliant with any charter that may or may not exist.

2) Investigate and expose any of these dignitaries who might have shoddy scholarship, such as plagiarism etc.

3) Work with other conservative groups in the US who are already fighting radical leftists in Universities; however, that may just strengthen the wasp's nest as Berkeley is not exactly receptive to conservative opinion of any sort.

4) Mobilize other Berkeley profs and faculty to prepare responses

5) A document such as the one that HAF created about FOIL, CAGetc should be done for these worthies as well (well, some are already profiled in that document), to share with congressmen and women, US-India business council types when this wasp's nest starts stirring into action. It looks like the HAF document drew on research conducted in outer Mongolia in the far reaches of the Gobi desert by researchers based in Ulan Bator too I think.

Generally, it looks like the modus operandi of these cretins will be to release damning reports and PRs from time to time. They may work with some congresspeople to table resolutions (like HR 417) that will generally not go anywhere. Beyond that noise, what is the more serious damage they do? Trying to understand whether ultimately this has an effect or not. If the damage is only in image and PR, it sounds like the antidote would be for another organization (with a secular sounding name) to immediately rebut these reports in such a way as to discredit their brand value.
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UlanBatori wrote:Jhujar, I think you recognize the extreme seriousness of this wasp nest growing at Berkeley, hain? Same entities as described here, except new digs and UCBerkeley credentials. The other co-chair has apparently created an "acclaimed" documentary on "India-Pakistan conflict". I can guess the nature of that, but anyone here seen/heard of it?
Most probably Modi Welcome party in offing. Folks here need to go back to 90s to figure out the real nature of this animal. Reactivation blessings of their Ishtdevas, lets say was inevitable but Surprise was in their gathering of coordinants all the way from 80s to 2014 plus i.e signature ,presence of experienced ,continuous active enemy force/s behind the Parda. Eagerly waiting for the "activation" of their both overground and underground Desi counterparts within India by last quarter of this year or early next year. India enter Interesting Era of Friendly Western Snakes and Eastern Scorpion Gazing/ Hunting Again !
MurthyB
Sir ji, these guys are being brought together for specific task. Its not about their scholarship but about ability to hurt indian interest using on ground local network in Desh thus creating control leverages for their Bosses.
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Strangely missing: No Pakis. That means it MUST be ISI-funded. Probably learned from the Fai experience. No Vijay Pras***. No Biju Matthew. No Ri**** Shapi** (WHO will examine the PhD theses of Berkeley wimmens, hain?) No Stalini G. No Akh*** Ra(h)man. No An* Mandi****. No "Ra(t) Ra******ar. Besides, I thought VinayLalAssociateProfessorOfHistoryAtUCLA had emigrated to JNU?
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UB it is not only WASPs. There are Jews and Gungadins. This has the blessings of the system. The only alternative is to create alternate organizations like HAF and use such to put out counter-thesis as well as lobbying/pressure group. This was recognized early on by Hindu-Americans that these entities had the blessings of higher-ups and cannot be made to disappear.
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UB it is not only WASPs.
:roll:
I meant wasp's nest as in extremely industrious, gentle, social creatures that tend to bless unsuspecting beings in hordes, and keep growing and growing in dark sheltered places out of most people's view. Ah, yes, BTW even in Northern Himachal we do get World News and have sat-phone Internet connection, so we yak-herders tend to be well-informed on these happenings, since we have so much time on our hands. :mrgreen:
As for demographics of wasp's nest: Berkeley PIs seem to be gori wimmens; only interest there is $$$ and joy-rides to exotic conferences. Co-Chairs are desi origin USCs. One very famous (see references above); other well-accomplished as in making "critically acclaimed documentaries" usually meaning funded and popular in Pakistan. For the rest, who include several imported celebrities who seem to have got through the terror watch at the airports OK, pls read articles linked above onlee, thx.

Pls kindly help in finding helpful info such as:
a) funding sources
b) funding amounts and periods
c) India political connections and funding flow
Note that although the Center is set up with grand global connotations, they have NO projects or intents on anything other than India. There seems to be some small Filipino terror connection, but everything else is India. In India, well, there seems to be a Manipur connection (no comment) but all the rest is Gujarat/"Kashmir" (meaning Paki $$$) centered. Presence of Setalwad is as bad as it gets: FIRs in India on perjury, fraud and long history of those. INC Dirty Tricks Division funding certain.
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UlanBatori wrote: Pls kindly help in finding helpful info such as:
a) funding sources
b) funding amounts and periods
c) India political connections and funding....
a. good lawyer,
b. FOIA.
c. ????
d. Profit.
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Well. one could just ask them too...
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Looking at huge coverage of Ukraine in western media..its obvious there is a gleeful plan behind it.
what failed once is now sought to partition Ukraine into east and west.
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Time running short - for the Gift of 100,000 bottles of Vodka from the East, each carried by an individual armed courier.. :shock:
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Singha,you've spotted the same strategy with events in Ukraine.I've started anew td. for the same,that the escalation is taking place exactly at the same time as the Sochi Winter Olympics is no coincidence,The Western media has tried very hard unsuccessfully to rubbish the Games,which have thus far been a spectacular success.The Cold War warriors of the West/US are determined to cause trouble for Putin,who has rescued Russia from reverting back into a backward mediaeval peasant entity,with a vodka soaked neo-Yeltsin western puppet signing off Russia's wealth to western MNCs and their oligarch partners.
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The rogue's gallery at the soon-to-be "Haas-been School of Business" seems like a circling the wagons effort to prepare for a post-Modi-win scenario in LS elections. They will be a useful thorn in his side. Since it will be Indian Sepoys publishing atrocity literature against other Indians, whites can sit back with coke + popcorn. It looks like a good cop, bad cop routine - Nancy Powell to engage with Modi, while the wasp nest is used to sting him on & off. Expect atrocity literature to reach fever pitch if/when Modi visits the U.S

The nest also helps in moulding the opinion of fence-sitting, US-admiring, liberal Indian graduate students in Universities. Expect their work to bounce off echo-chambers in US based NGOs like AID, Asha etc.

Also expect "papers" on sustainable development, at the intersection of business+human rights+environment (read Posco+Adivasi+Orissa forest), which will give Jairam Ramesh the big O

Since *both* conservative & liberal whites in the US hate Modi (for their own respective reflex reasons), I wouldnt be surprised if this program is sustained by wealthy conservatives
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It has been almost 2 weeks since Arshack filed reply to PB's counter, how much time to take a final decision by the court? Anybody has any idea?
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Prem Kumar wrote:The rogue's gallery at the soon-to-be "Haas-been School of Business" seems like a circling the wagons effort to prepare for a post-Modi-win scenario in LS elections. They will be a useful thorn in his side. Since it will be Indian Sepoys publishing atrocity literature against other Indians, whites can sit back with coke + popcorn. It looks like a good cop, bad cop routine - Nancy Powell to engage with Modi, while the wasp nest is used to sting him on & off. Expect atrocity literature to reach fever pitch if/when Modi visits the U.S

The nest also helps in moulding the opinion of fence-sitting, US-admiring, liberal Indian graduate students in Universities. Expect their work to bounce off echo-chambers in US based NGOs like AID, Asha etc.

Also expect "papers" on sustainable development, at the intersection of business+human rights+environment (read Posco+Adivasi+Orissa forest), which will give Jairam Ramesh the big O

Since *both* conservative & liberal whites in the US hate Modi (for their own respective reflex reasons), I wouldnt be surprised if this program is sustained by wealthy conservatives

You are absolutely right. Spot on. That is the purpose.
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Sounds like HerOnner is too busy building snowwimmens and engaging in snowball fights with Counsel. 8)
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UB and Prem kumar....
Its also to shape the NRI minds. Silcone Valley is hotbed of many DIE money bags who would like to reshape modern India in their mind view.
8) There is a war on for the hearts and minds of Desi Niseis in the diaspora. The usual ideological grooming methods have been combined with vigorous “compulsions to choose a side” in order to deny Nationalists any trans-geographic multiplier opportunities. This is akin to processes that targeted the German Diaspora during WW I and the Japanese Diaspora during WW II. A Nationalist dispensation in India will have to recognize this dynamic and deal with it in a clinical and non-sentimental manner. L’affaire DK exemplifies this challenge.
Look at the various NRI groups that went public to shape the mind view.
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ramana wrote:UB and Prem kumar....
Its also to shape the NRI minds. Silcone Valley is hotbed of many DIE money bags who would like to reshape modern India in their mind view.
8) There is a war on for the hearts and minds of Desi Niseis in the diaspora. The usual ideological grooming methods have been combined with vigorous “compulsions to choose a side” in order to deny Nationalists any trans-geographic multiplier opportunities. This is akin to processes that targeted the German Diaspora during WW I and the Japanese Diaspora during WW II. A Nationalist dispensation in India will have to recognize this dynamic and deal with it in a clinical and non-sentimental manner. L’affaire DK exemplifies this challenge.
Look at the various NRI groups that went public to shape the mind view.
Where is this quote from
The SV DIE groups are also behind AAP and there is a urge to change and be anti establishment. Some of them travel every year and camp in India for several months to change the election results. Few of them went to India before the elections in 2004, 2009, 2010,2013
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From a lurker in a private communication. The SV DIE observation is my own developed with BRF friends who cant be named.

A book review:
Uncouth Nation: Why Europe Dislikes America by Andrei S. Markovits
English | 2007 | ISBN: 0691122873 | 296 pages |

No survey can capture the breadth and depth of the anti-Americanism that has swept Europe in recent years. From ultraconservative Bavarian grandmothers to thirty-year-old socialist activists in Greece, from globalization opponents to corporate executives--Europeans are joining in an ever louder chorus of disdain for America.

For the first time, anti-Americanism has become a European lingua franca. In this sweeping and provocative look at the history of European aversion to America, Andrei Markovits argues that understanding the ubiquity of anti-Americanism since September 11, 2001, requires an appreciation of such sentiments among European elites going back at least to July 4, 1776. While George W. Bush's policies have catapulted anti-Americanism into overdrive, particularly in Western Europe, Markovits argues that this loathing has long been driven not by what America does, but by what it is.

Focusing on seven Western European countries big and small, he shows how antipathies toward things American embrace aspects of everyday life--such as sports, language, work, education, media, health, and law--that remain far from the purview of the Bush administration's policies. Aggravating Europeans' antipathies toward America is their alleged helplessness in the face of an Americanization that they view as inexorably befalling them. More troubling, Markovits argues, is that this anti-Americanism has cultivated a new strain of anti-Semitism. Above all, he shows that while Europeans are far apart in terms of their everyday lives and shared experiences, their not being American provides them with a powerful common identity--one that elites have already begun to harness in their quest to construct a unified Europe to rival America.
So new analysis of the old "Ugly American" stereotype.
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TKiran wrote:It has been almost 2 weeks since Arshack filed reply to PB's counter, how much time to take a final decision by the court? Anybody has any idea?
disposal of any summary motions is at the discretion of the court. they may not be decided until the trial, if at all. IANAL.
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Focusing on seven Western European countries big and small, he shows how antipathies toward things American embrace aspects of everyday life--such as sports, language, work, education, media, health, and law--that remain far from the purview of the Bush administration's policies. Aggravating Europeans' antipathies toward America is their alleged helplessness in the face of an Americanization that they view as inexorably befalling them. More troubling, Markovits argues, is that this anti-Americanism has cultivated a new strain of anti-Semitism. Above all, he shows that while Europeans are far apart in terms of their everyday lives and shared experiences, their not being American provides them with a powerful common identity--one that elites have already begun to harness in their quest to construct a unified Europe to rival America.


Hardly. These individuals are more American than they are European.


Just as I am American-I identify with the moon shot, Berkeley long hairs, the Fugitive, America as a beacon of materialism and, hopefully more, America as a land of opportunity (contrast with the Algerians in Paris or Turks in Germany, America as a pioneer of science and technology, the physical beauty of America.

Europeans need to recognise jealousy when they expeience it.
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The supplanting of the major trinity of the European countries as the preeminent powers by US is complete. That is the cause of khujli. None of the BRICS (except S. Africa) gives them any weight other than as providers of tech transfer.
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Absolutely Ramana. Both DIE & RNI moneybags are ripe targets. AAP'ians in the DIE category (one Singaporean reportedly donated $1M) as well as East Coast + West Coast in the US. For AAP, East Coast is even more active than SV

On the RNI front, we have people like Anand Mahindra & Narayana Murthy who fund University chairs in the US & UK - for "South Asia studies" programs, headed by Wendy's children like Sheldon Pollock. The white man's appointment tickles their ego, while simultaneously fulfilling their need to get the white man's approval

A foolish Hindu & his money are soon parted!

The good news is that there are also a lot of Hindus in the US (wealthy ones too), who want to support the establishment of a Hindu identity in India & can see through games like AAP and Wendy. They realize that this is a critical phase in India's history
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^^the above is envy analysis of 'ugly american'. Europeans cant throw their weight around anymore.
... More troubling, Markovits argues, is that this anti-Americanism has cultivated a new strain of anti-Semitism.
One is tempted to ask, so, what is new? Have they not been at that for 100s of years already!!!
Would be interesting to the read the analysis though.
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UlanBatori wrote:Time running short - for the Gift of 100,000 bottles of Vodka from the East, each carried by an individual armed courier.. :shock:
Those will be 100k Pugachov Cobra Porter Beer Boot-les.
(Good folks, try it)
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