Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - March 17, 2017

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Falijee wrote:Put On Hold Kulbhushan Jadhav's Execution, International Court Tells Pak
New Delhi: The International Court of Justice in Hague, Netherlands, has asked Pakistan to put on hold its death sentence to Kulbhushan Jadhav,an Indian national it accused of spying. A letter has been sent to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, ( should have been sent to "real PM" COAS - Bajwa !) official sources said.
The International Court's response came after India filed an appeal on Monday, accusing Pakistan of "egregious violations of the Vienna Convention" and seeking a stay on Mr Jadhav's execution. Mr Jadhav, a retired Naval officer, was kidnapped from Iran, where he was running a business, India said. In its appeal, India also said if Pakistan is unable to annul its decision to execute Mr Jadhav, the court should declare the decision "illegal".
External Affairs minister Sushma Swaraj, who met Bert Koenders, the visiting foreign minister of Netherlands this morning, tweeted that she has already spoken to Mr Jadhav's mother and informed her of the International Court's order.
Mr Jadhav's mother filed an appeal at a higher court asking fr his release, after Pakistan turned down India's repeated requests for consular access to Mr Jadhav.In the appeal to the international court, India mentioned the lack of consular access and said it found out about Mr Jadhav's death sentence from a press release. Pakistan had contended that consular access is given only to civilian prisoners under a 2008 agreement. Since Mr Jadhav had been caught spying, he was not entitled to consular access, Pakistan contended.Pakistan had claimed that Mr Jadhav was arrested on March 3, 2016, from the restive Balochistan province. Last month, a military court sentenced him to death, alleging he was working as a spy for intel agency Research and Analysis Wing or RAW. Pakistan also claimed that he was "a serving officer in the Indian Navy". Days after his arrest, the Pakistan army had released a video in which he was seen admitting to the claims made by Pakistan. India has rubbished the claims.
:-? India does not recognise the jurisdiction of the ICJ in disputes involving present or former Commonwealth Nations. This position in turn has been upheld by the ICJ in the Dassault Atlantique shootdown case involving the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

So how did it happen that India took Pakistan to the ICJ implying junking of India's own jurisdiction limitation :?:
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http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/168/19420.pdf

The Republic of India institutes proceedings against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and requests the Court to indicate provisional measures
No. 2017/16
9 May 2017
THE HAGUE, 9 May 2017. On 8 May 2017, the Republic of India instituted proceedings against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, accusing the latter of “egregious violations of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations” (hereinafter the “Vienna Convention”) in the matter of the detention and trial of an Indian national, Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav, sentenced to death by a military court in Pakistan.
The Applicant contends that it was not informed of Mr. Jadhav’s detention until long after his arrest and that Pakistan failed to inform the accused of his rights. It further alleges that, in violation of the Vienna Convention, the authorities of Pakistan are denying India its right of consular access to Mr. Jadhav, despite its repeated requests. The Applicant also points out that it learned about the death sentence against Mr. Jadhav from a press release.
India submits that it has information that Mr. Jadhav was “kidnapped from Iran, where he was carrying on business after retiring from the Indian Navy, and was then shown to have been arrested in Baluchistan” on 3 March 2016, and that the Indian authorities were notified of that arrest on 25 March 2016. It claims to have sought consular access to Mr. Jadhav on 25 March 2016 and repeatedly thereafter.
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India accordingly “seeks the following reliefs:

(1) [a] relief by way of immediate suspension of the sentence of death awarded to the accused[;]

(2) [a] relief by way of restitution in interregnum by declaring that the sentence of the military court arrived at, in brazen defiance of the Vienna Convention rights under Article 36, particularly Article 36[,] paragraph 1 (b), and in defiance of elementary human rights of an accused which are also to be given effect as mandated under Article 14 of the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, is violative of international law and the provisions of the Vienna Convention[;] and

(3) [r]estraining Pakistan from giving effect to the sentence awarded by the military court, and directing it to take steps to annul the decision of the military court as may be available to it under the law in Pakistan[;]

(4) f Pakistan is unable to annul the decision, then this Court to declare the decision illegal being violative of international law and treaty rights and restrain Pakistan from acting in violation of the Vienna Convention and international law by giving effect to the sentence or the conviction
in any manner, and directing it to release the convicted Indian National forthwith.”
India therefore requests that, “pending final judgment in this case, the Court indicate:

(a) [t]hat the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan take all measures necessary to ensure that Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav is not executed;

(b) [t]hat the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan report to the Court the action it has taken in pursuance of sub-paragraph (a); and

(c) [t]hat the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan ensure that no action is taken that might prejudice the rights of the Republic of India or Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav with respect of any decision th[e] Court may render on the merits of the case”.
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Thanks Anup for digging above out from the ICJ website. Always best to look at the unfiltered by media information.

However back to the same old question.

:-? India does not recognise the jurisdiction of the ICJ in disputes involving present or former Commonwealth Nations. This position in turn has been upheld by the ICJ in the Dassault Atlantique shootdown case involving the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

So how did it happen that India took Pakistan to the ICJ implying junking of India's own jurisdiction limitation :?:
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Meanwhile whatever happened to the story put out by the media of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan about an Uniformed Jihadi of the Punjabi dominated Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by name of Lt.Col. (Retired?) Muhammad Habib Zahir, who was supposed to have vanished from Nepal's border area with the insinuation that India had goatnapped him :?:
arun wrote:Hmmm………… I wonder if India has arrested a high ranking ISI aka ISID aka Inter Services Intelligence Directorate Agent committing espionage in India and the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan is consequently attempting to play victim by claiming that the high ranking agent was kidnapped and taken across the border into India.

Let me hope that it is indeed the case that India has bagged a high ranking ISID agent for espionage in India and who after a full and public confession of spying can be traded for our retired naval officer Kulbhushan Jadhav who was kidnapped by Pakistan from Chabahar in Iran.

Read about the affair of the disapperance of a Uniformed Jihadi by name of Lt.Col. (Retired?) Muhammad Habib Zahir:

Gone missing: Retired army officer disappears in Nepal
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Inshallah we will never know what happened to Zahir. He would have vapourized into the thin air of the mountains.
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Arun ji, India approaching ICJ is indeed intriguing.

I remember Soli Sorabjee shoving the paki case back up the paki mush with the argument citing a previous ruling that ICJ did not have jurisdiction on that particular case. Esp in case of disputes between India and other commonwealth states who have treaties to deal with specific disputes.

Do we have any bilateral indo-pak treaty that deals with prisoner handling? If not this probably is fair game. I am sure GoI did its homework.

Interesting how GoI kept the news about approaching ICJ under wraps till this point.
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Skanda wrote:Making out at 30000ft
According to our correspondent Salahuddin, the pilot was trying to befriend the Chinese lady and even sought her feedback about the cockpit visit and flight after landing at the airport.

It’s reported that the woman allegedly stayed inside the cockpit for about couple if hours, and got back to her seat after the plane touched down on the airport.
On Twitter, folks are saying that the pilot literally gave a tour of his cock-pit.
He kept on asking how was the landing? how was the landing? He was only trying to land his cock-pit on her strip. A job for marde-Momin.
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yensoy wrote:Inshallah we will never know what happened to Zahir. He would have vapourized into the thin air of the mountains.
Might just reappear after a refreshing trek in the hImalayas if TSP-ians stop their antics and let Shri. Jadhav go
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Saw an explaination on TOI on India approaching the ICJ in Jadhav's case..

India approaches ICJ
The Indian intent is first, to stay Jadhav's execution. For this, India took advantage of a small loophole in international law to institute a one-off case against Pakistan on Jadhav. While both India and Pakistan signed on to the ICJ in 1960, both countries included caveats which prevented each side from being sued by another Commonwealth country. That was why India could not sue Pakistan over the murder and mutilation of Saurabh Kalia during Kargil.
But when the two countries signed on to the Vienna Convention, "Article I of the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations concerning the Compulsory Settlement of Disputes of 24 April 1963" gave jurisdiction on consular matters to ICJ. That is the provision India has used this time.
Now pakis will be forced to show their hand, smart move by GoI IMO.
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Beauty parlours to get industry status in Punjab
Chalk one up for the chini pallol wolkels.
All beauty parlours in the province will be registered and given the status of an industry while women working there will be imparted training to prevent spread of diseases like Hepatitis B and C, HIV, AIDS and Thalassaemia.
The minister said that presently approximately 25 million people had been affected by Hepatitis B and C in Pakistan which was very alarming.
Now, I am not a geneticist but isn't Thalassaemia an inherited condition? Are the chini pallol ladeej now in the business of match making? By the way, 25 million affected with Hepatitis B & C means 12% of their population.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1332147/beaut ... -in-punjab
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So if Pakis still assassinate Sh. Jadhav despite ICJ ruling, where does that leave us except for some bad press for Pakis ?
I am worried that some insecure Corps Commander will hasten killing of KJ to show his Jehadi prowess and spite NM.
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In the Atlanique case, India successfully argued that the ICJ had no jurisdiction. Let Pakistan do the same now. Let's see.

India will have to do everything within its powers to save an Indian life.
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Kulbhushan Jadhav row: India had no option but to approach ICJ - DIPANJAN ROY CHAUDHURY, Economic Times
India had no other legal options but to approach the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to get reprive for Kulbhushan Jadhav as all legal options within Pakistan to save him was drying up.

Jadhav has been facing hurdles to get justice from Pakistan’s judicial process with the lawyers in the neighbouring country being asked not to help him appeal in a higher court.

The Lahore High Court Bar Association, ostensibly under pressure from the Pakistan Army, had threatened to cancel the membership of any lawyer, who would extend his services to Jadhav. This made it difficult for Jadhav even to find a lawyer.

India was earlier exploring options available within the legal framework of Pakistan in order to save Jadhav. He could have moved the Supreme Court of Pakistan challenging the death-sentence awarded to him by the military court, which tried him under Section 59 of the neighbouring country's Army Act 1952 and Section 3 of the Official Secret Act 1923.

Persons familiar with Pakistan judicial process and current circumstances, however, said that the chances of Jadhav getting a fair deal even in the Supreme Court of the neighbouring country are slim, as Pakistan Army and agencies under its control were already trying to make the judicial process biased against him.

The Lahore High Court Bar Association's directive to the lawyers against appearing for Jadhav has indicated difficulties for the Indian citizen in getting justice, noted the persons quoted above.

India decided to take help from the UN and bring this matter before the International Court of Justice as a matter of violation of treaty obligation owed to India, therefore, creating an international obligation for Pakistan, hinted persons familiar with the matter. ET was first to report that India will approach ICJ on the matter.

The obligation in this case flows from the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963 (the Treaty), which came into force on 19 March 1967. India and Pakistan both signed and ratified the Treaty on 28 November 1977 and 14 April 1969 respectively.

The Treaty also has an ‘Optional Protocol’ to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations concerning the Compulsory Settlement of Disputes, 1963 (the Protocol). The Protocol entered into force on 19 March 1967. Interestingly both India and Pakistan are parties to this protocol too. The two countries became party to the Protocol on 28 November 1977 and 29 March 1976 respectively.

The protocol provides for compulsory jurisdiction of the ICJ for resolution of any dispute arising between parties of the treaty. India can invoke the jurisdiction of the ICJ from the protocol and not under Article 36, ICJ statute.

There are three precedents at the ICJ where a national of another State has been prosecuted and sentenced, where both are parties to the treaty and the protocol. First is the instance of a dispute, Paraguay vs USA in 1998. The next in line is the dispute, Germany vs USA, 1999, it is also known as the La Grand case. Lastly, the case of Mexico vs USA, 2003, also known as the ‘Avena and Other Mexican National’ case. All cases involved death penalty awarded by USA to the nationals of there above mentioned countries.

Pakistan stands on the wrong side of the law in the case, first the trial itself is violation of the international human rights law. Secondly, Pakistan has violated Article 36 of the treaty; in the La Grand case, the ICJ had decided that violation of Article 36 requires a review and reconsideration of both the conviction and the sentence in this case

Earlier The Indian High Commission in Islamabad was directed by Delhi to exploit all legal options available under Pakistan's military court to safeguard Jadhav, persons familiar with the developments. The dispensation wanted to focus on legal provisions simultaneously with the political and diplomatic options to deal with Pakistan in the Jadhav case.

The two legal options were to file an appeal within the 60 day stipulated period or even seek a pardon by the Pakistan President. However both these options would have to be exercised by Jadhav. He has to appeal in the Military Appelate Tribunal. There is one option under which Jadhav can have his sentence reviewed under the civilian court and can have lawyer of his choice. The Indian government can find a lawyer to defend Jadhav if the Indian High Commission is given consular access.


Pakistani civil society groups and NGOs who have earlier come forward to render assistance regarding Indian prisoners in Pakistani jails may also help India in dealing with the Jadhav case even though it is in military courts and not civilian courts. Ever since Pakistan Army created military courts in 2015 certain politicians, NGOs and civil society groups have been outspoken in their opposition to these courts.

Pakistan Peoples Párty Senator Farhatullah Babar had argued that the “practice of military courts pronouncing death penalty against unnamed accused by unnamed judges sitting at an undisclosed location and without any mention of charges, the case of the prosecution, the defence plea and disallowing independent observers violated the requirements of adequate procedural safeguards."
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Ganja Sharif's Echendee Restored ? :roll:

ISPR withdraws tweet 'rejecting' PM's notification on Dawn Leaks
Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) stated that of 29th April tweet was not to target any individual or institution.According to a statement by ISPR that Dawn Leaks issue has been resolved now hence the tweet is being withdrawn.Pakistan military will keep on supporting democracy in Pakistan, stated ISPR.ISPR further stated that Pakistan military believes on constitutional supremacy in the country. Earlier, on April 29th, DG ISPR Major General Asif Ghafoor tweeted that Dawn Leaks notification was not in line of recommendations of inquiry committee. Henceforth the decision is rejected. The tweet caused a stir in politics of Pakistan because it was considered as direct challenge to authority of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif. Interior Minister Chaudhary Nisar called the tweet 'poisonous' for democracy of Pakistan.
So, maybe, some sort of compromise has been worked out, this time.. What did Ganja Sharif have to "give in return" !. See below


PM Nawaz meets COAS Bajwa , discusses Dawn Leaks issue: sources
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ISI office attacker to be executed on May 16
Usman Ghani, who had attacked the office of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), is going to be executed on May 16.Usman Ghani had carried out a bomb attack in front of ISI office along with friends on March 8, 2011. (Took that long to make a decision to send him to gallows :eek: ) The car blast had cost 34 people their lives. The culprit was a commander of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)
Meanwhile, the two recently "drycleaned terrorists ", one TTP man and one ISIS women, will be integrated back into Paki society :twisted:
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Pakistan " Now Preaching" To Iran As Well .

Pakistan cautions Iran over hostile remarks :roll:
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan on Tuesday told Iran that harsh statements could damage the friendly ties between the two neighbours.Iranian Ambassador to Pakistan Mehdi Honardoost was called to the Foreign Office to convey Pakistan’s concerns over the reported remarks of the Iranian Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces Major-Gen Mohammad Baqeri who had warned that Tehran would hit inside Pakistan if Islamabad failed to stop militants from cross-border attacks.A foreign ministry statement said: “It was conveyed to the Iranian ambassador that such remarks were against the spirit of brotherly relations existing between the two countries.” The Paki Foreign Office used the same "brotherly relations tactic" in dealing with the Afghanis :mrgreen:
Last month, 10 Iranian border guards were killed by militants. Tehran claimed the militants fired from the Pakistani side of the border.The tension with Iran comes at a time when Pakistan is already engaged in a conflict with Afghanistan. Pakistan retaliated after the Afghan forces targeted a Pakistan census team escorted by security personnel in two villages along Chaman border last week. There have been deaths on both sides of the border. So , Pakistan is literally or figuratively "at war" with all its neighbours except China !
For the past several weeks, Pakistan has been trying to convince Iran to join the Saudi-led military alliance. The force is being led by former Pakistan army chief General Raheel Sharif.Iran, however, sees the Saudi-led coalition as an alliance of the Sunni states with some hidden agenda instead of the joint efforts against terrorism. Iraq, the other Shia-majority country, is also not a member of the alliance.Pakistan had been trying to clarify its position and convince Iran on the genuineness of the Saudi alliance’s agenda.Iranian ambassador Honardoost publically raised concerns over Raheel Sharif’s appointment as the head of the Saudi-led military alliance. Of course, the so-called Muslim NATO, led by Raheel is nothing but a "smokescreen" to fight the Shias, so Iran's concerns are not unfounded !
For the past several weeks, Pakistan has been trying to convince Iran to join the Saudi-led military alliance. The force is being led by former Pakistan army chief General Raheel Sharif.Iran, however, sees the Saudi-led coalition as an alliance of the Sunni states with some hidden agenda instead of the joint efforts against terrorism. Iraq, the other Shia-majority country, is also not a member of the alliance.Pakistan had been trying to clarify its position and convince Iran on the genuineness of the Saudi alliance’s agenda.Iranian ambassador Honardoost publically raised concerns over Raheel Sharif’s appointment as the head of the Saudi-led military alliance.
Talking to reporters recently, Quetta-based Iranian Consul General Mohammad Rafiei said Tehran has sought access to Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadav. He said Iranian officials want to ask some questions from Jadav. :roll:
The "brotherly country of Pakistan" should accommodate this request from the "brotherly country of Iran" ASAP
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Army withdraws tweet 'rejecting' PM House notification on Dawn Leaks
RAWALPINDI: The Pakistan Army on Wednesday withdrew its earlier statement rejecting a notification from the Prime Minister’s Office on Dawn Leaks.
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Falijee wrote:ISI office attacker to be executed on May 16
Usman Ghani, who had attacked the office of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), is going to be executed on May 16.Usman Ghani had carried out a bomb attack in front of ISI office along with friends on March 8, 2011. (Took that long to make a decision to send him to gallows :eek: ) The car blast had cost 34 people their lives. The culprit was a commander of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)
Meanwhile, the two recently "drycleaned terrorists ", one TTP man and one ISIS women, will be integrated back into Paki society :twisted:
Why did these ISI office IED mubaraks stop suddenly?
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g.sarkar wrote:
Skanda wrote:Making out at 30000ft



On Twitter, folks are saying that the pilot literally gave a tour of his cock-pit.
He kept on asking how was the landing? how was the landing? He was only trying to land his cock-pit on her strip. A job for marde-Momin.
Gautam
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Didn't take the pakis very long to start screwing their new benefactors once again.

Must have become a habit, after screwing the amrekis all this long while.
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Nawaz Sharif discusses Jadhav issue with Pak Army chief - PTI
Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Wednesday discussed the International Court of Justice’s stay order on the execution of Indian national Kulbhushan Jadhav, media reports said.

During the meeting, which lasted for around 90 minutes, Mr. Sharif was briefed on the “latest situation” regarding Jadhav’s case, the Geo News reported.

In the meeting, Mr. Sharif and Mr. Bajwa also discussed other issues including the Dawn leaks controversy and Pak-Afghan relations, the channel said.

The meeting between the Army chief and the premier is the second one within a week and is significant in light of the civil-military row over Dawn’s leaked report that had angered the powerful army.

On May 6, Prime Minister Sharif had met the Army chief and both discussed the Dawn Leaks issue, among other things.

Mr. Sharif and the Army chief had agreed that the issues surrounding Dawn leaks would be dealt with amicably.
The PA may strike a deal with Nawaz whereby they are flexible in the Dawn leaks case and ask Nawaz not to interfere in the Jadhav case.
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Paki- Islami Propagator From Tabligi Jamaat Not Allowed To Board Plane To Canada :D
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Maulana-Tariq-Jameel-offloaded-from-Canada-bound-flight-at-Dubai-airport
KARACHI: Prominent religious scholar Maulana Tariq Jameel was offloaded from a Canada-bound flight at Dubai airport. He was travelling to Toronto along with Shahid Afridi to attend a fundraiser of Afridi's NGO.Shahid Afridi said that the Canadian immigration officials directed the airline to offload the cleric because of his security clearance.He said that they are talking to the Canadian authorities for the security clearance in Dubai.
Maulana Tariq Jameel is a leading figure of the Tableeghi Jamaat, and is popular among celebrities, particularly cricketers and artistes and several of them became practicing Muslims after seeking his guidance. Said preacher is "spiritual advisor" ( whatever that means !) to such Paki luminaries as Immy Khan, Reham Khan , Veena Malik and many others ! Hope the ban is a life-time thing, not a one-time "punishment" :mrgreen:
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Pakistan seeks clarification over ‘China’s offer for India to re-name CPEC’ :roll:
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan on Monday sought clarification from Chinese Counsel General over an Indian report about China’s willingness to change the name of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) to assuage India’s concerns about the project. The "good name of Pakistan" will be "deleted"- from CPEC- to "appease" the Indians, without the Pakistanis ever been consulted :eek:
The offer was reportedly made by the Chinese ambassador to India Luo Zhaohui in a speech to the United Service Institution (USI) in New Delhi on Friday, according to Zee News.
This is not a new argument from China. A similar point was made by Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi last month at a media briefing about the forthcoming OBOR summit. But in his speech, the Chinese ambassador floated a new offer as a possible solution to mitigate Indian concerns. China, he said “even can think about renaming the CPEC.” ( that will be big "no-no" as far as Pakistan is concerned. All the agreements, with the words "China Pakistan Exploitative Corrider AKA CPEC will now have to be "re-drafted")
A private Pakistani TV channel, citing sources in Ministry of Planning and Development, reported that Pakistani officials have written a letter to Chinese authorities in Islamabad over the issue. “We are awaiting Chinese clarification on this situation,” the officials were quoted by Geo News as saying on Monday. Expect some sort of "assurance" from Chini authorities allaying Paki fears on that score !
In any event, the re-naming of the CPEC – or even portions of it – could raise eyebrows in Pakistan, where Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has promoted the $51 billion project as the key economic “game-changer” from his term in office. :mrgreen:
The Pakistani military establishment, which is a key stakeholder in the corridor, also sees enormous strategic ( and money making racket !) value from the corridor and may baulk at any symbolic Chinese gesture towards Indian concerns.
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Immy - The "Shit Stirrer" Of Pakiland :mrgreen:

‘Dawn Leaks a matter of National Security’: Imran Khan calls for making inquiry report public
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has said the Dawn Leaks was never about Army and the Government, but about national security.“The whole nation now needs to know what was settled,” the PTI chief said, in a series of tweets Wednesday, following an agreement between the Army and Nawaz-led government on Dawn Leaks. Desperate to get power by "hook or by crook", Imran Khan is not happy that some sort of compromise has been reached between Ganja Sharif and COAS Bajwa , whereby ISPR "took back the insulting tweet" and some sort of restoration of NS's enchendee has taken place !
“The tweet on April 29, 2017 was not aimed at any government office or person,” an ISPR press release said. “Recommendations, as contained in Para 18 of the Inquiry Committee Report, duly approved by the prime minister, have been implemented, which has settled the Dawn leaks issue,” it added. So all is forgiven and now Ganja Sharif will be able to embark on another foreign tour, ( pre Eid shopping to Londonistan ?) this time, "citing the coming Holy Month Of Ramadan as the reason :mrgreen:
“Pakistan Army reiterates its firm commitment and continued resolve to uphold the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and support the democratic process.” :((
On April 29, the government issued notification sacking special assistant to PM Tariq Fatemi ( a mohajir now made a scapegoat !)while referring the issue of dawn Leaks to APNS. Not only that, Principal Information Officer Rao Tehseen was also fired days after the notification.
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PIA pilot sends legal notice to Dawn over ‘concocted’, ‘fabricated’ news story about him :roll:
ISLAMABAD – In the backdrop of Dawn’s news story, senior pilot of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), who was accused of compromising air safety has sent a legal notice to Dawn newspaper for ‘concocting’ and ‘fabricating’ story about him and asked to tender an unconditional apology for ‘tarnishing’ the image of national carrier.
:roll: If anyone, it should be the "disgraced airline" that should "go after" the newspaper, not the pilot!
On May 5, a story published on Dawn said that the senior pilot Amir Akhtar Hashmi handed over the aircraft to an under-training pilot soon after the take-off and took a two-and-a-half-hour nap in the passenger compartment, compromising air safety and putting the lives of over 305 passengers at risk.The pilot, in the legal notice, has alleged that the story was completely concocted, fabricated and based on motivated allegations. It alleged that the news story was picked up by international news outlets including India, and played well in the hands of ‘enemies of Pakistan’.
No newspaper story is complete in Pakistan, unless the "name of India is included in the same" . Just recently, the Sindh Education Minister openly blamed India for Board Exam Paper Leak that occurred in the mega-city of Karachi !
It said that the said news clipping was published without any verification as to the veracity of its claims, concocted and created by a group of motivated individuals. who nourish a personal grudge arid bias against the pilot.The lawyer for the pilot said that it is on the record that on the flight in question, the pilot was accompanied by two rated co-pilots and never left cockpit for more than 15 minutes.“Your reporter who created this story, has hitherto, twice published such concocted stories against the pilot and gone to the extent of personally approaching the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to appease his venom of a vendetta when CAA paid no heed to his false and concocted stories,” it further read.
It is obvious from the "last sentence" that the pilot in question is someone who has more pull, influence, sifarish, power, etc ( whatever you may call it) that the CAA dare not take any action against him for fear of reprisal or blow back. Most airline pilots in PIA are retired PAF pilots, with the usual "ego and enchendee problem" ( reporting late, coming drunk, violate safety rules, take foreigners into cock-pit (new!)
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Falijee wrote:It alleged that the news story was picked up by international news outlets including India, and played well in the hands of ‘enemies of Pakistan’.


The nation has been so well trained & conditioned where a personal story been show in India is a "attack on Pakistan". It is all about H&D.

This is why we need to play the PR game with Pakis. Every time we hit them, it should be video recorded and played on television for months.

Nothing hurts them more being a laughing stock in India.
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He kept on asking how was the landing? how was the landing? He was only trying to land his cock-pit on her strip. A job for marde-Momin.
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I would say he was trying to land his joystick in her cockpit.
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I have read about Pakis obession with Mughal empire. Gave it a thought to see if their behaviour is explained by it.

In fact it explains quite a lot. They consider themselves the Mughals Empire. Guess which areas did Mughal empire contain? Afghanistan & India !

Hence their obsession with these two nation. it is all about the Mughal Empire. They name missiles after Afghan invaders.

I always wondered why do Pakis attack Mumbai more than any other city in India. Even Delhi has not been attacked. 26/11, Train bombing bus bombing, 93 blast etc.

It's because Mumbai is the capital of the state which gave birth to Maratha Empire. The empire which defeated the Mughals and snatched the India from them. Their wet dreams is always about capturing the areas which were under Maratha rule.

The Pakis are fighting the Maratha Empire!
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Massaging The BIG EGO Of Imran Khan :mrgreen:

Imran Khan can be next prime minister, a spiritual adviser tells formula
LAHORE – A spiritual mentor of famous politician in Pakistan has made a surprising claim keeping in view the efforts that Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan is putting in to become the next prime minister of Pakistan.Pir Ejaz Shah, the spiritual adviser of former president Asif Ali Zardari, claimed that he knew the impediments barring him from achieving his goals, adding, “Khan will be the next prime minister if he makes visit to his shrine thrice.”“ ( the operative word here is "if"; so the "pir" is trying to "rope in" Immy to his client list . Elections are coming and demand for pirs are increasing, and supplies of pirs are short , so the price will obviously go up :twisted: ) I have extended this offer to him, and now it all depends on Imran Khan.”Ejaz Shah is an elderly man with gray beard who has been seen staying with the former president Asif Ali Zardari at the Presidency during his tenure and has advised him on scores of matters of national importance.Shah had claimed, “My meditation freed Mr Zardari from the bad spell he was under and in 2006 I called him from Madina ( did the Wahabi Saudis allow him to carry on this hocus-pocus in the Land Of The Two Holy Mosques :eek: ) to tell him that his case has been thrown into a blind well.”. Can two political rivals share the same spiritual advisor. Wonder what is the quid pro quo . Immy taking him on as a "religious advisor" with salary being paid by GOP , or better still, making him Minister Of Religious Affairs. IMO, the pir would be better off , if he can predict Immy's chances of finding an " homely, young and beautiful, Paki based Islamic wife :mrgreen:
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Condi Rice On Pakis :mrgreen:


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Paki Taxpayers Taken For A Ride Again: Higher Education Commission ( HEC) Pays Rs.1,000,000 Club Dues For Its Chairman :shock:

HEC pays club fees of its boss
ISLAMABAD, Jan 7: Heavy weight bureaucrats get membership of the Islamabad Club easily but pay the heavy membership fee from own pocket.
The Higher Education Commission (HEC) paid the Rs1 million fee from its funds for the ‘private membership’ of its chairman, Dr Javaid R. Leghari.
That flowed from a decision taken by the HEC at its meeting on October 12, 2009 that its chairman needed “a safer place like Islamabad Club” because “in the prevailing law and order situation in the country private hotels are not risk-free” for conducting meetings with foreign delegations. :roll:
Documents available with Dawn show that the club conveyed to the HEC that its chairman could be granted membership for a registration fee of Rs5,000 and membership fee of Rs600,000.But in December 2009 the Islamabad Club informed the HEC that the membership “will be given to Dr Javaid R. Leghari as an individual and not to his designation of HEC chairman.
An official in the know of things told Dawn that while Higher Education Commission took time to pursue the membership of Dr Leghari, the Islamabad Club informed it in March 2010 that it had increased its membership fee from Rs600,000 to Rs1 million.
Asked about his usage of HEC funds, the former HEC chairman Dr Attaur Rehman said: “I never used any HEC funds from any head on my person. I already had Islamabad Club membership when I was made the chairman of HEC in 2002.”“Any money taken from state should be accounted for and properly audited,” he told Dawn.Despite many calls, and text messages, HEC chairman Dr Leghari did not respond to requests for his comments. Neither was the official spokesman for Higher Education Commission available for comments.
IMO, it is indeed "disturbing" that this nation, almost at the verge of insolvency , instead of setting an example of frugality , the official in question is almost flaunting his position as Chairman. But then you have the example of the present PM himself using the national airline as a personal ATM, the PM again gifting BMW's and Mercedes to his favourite bureaucrats . So this is par for the course :mrgreen:


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arun wrote:
:-? India does not recognise the jurisdiction of the ICJ in disputes involving present or former Commonwealth Nations. This position in turn has been upheld by the ICJ in the Dassault Atlantique shootdown case involving the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

So how did it happen that India took Pakistan to the ICJ implying junking of India's own jurisdiction limitation :?:
It is quite simple actually
We go by past precedence as defined by the laws of the ICJ and courts in India and Pakistan
Pakistan does believe in the validity of the ICJ, having, as we all recall, taken the case of the Atlantique shootdown to it
So Pakistan is dutybound to accept the decisions of the ICJ.

The fact that India in a particular case disputed jurisdiction of the ICJ is immaterial

Secondly,
In the Atlantique shootdown case, the ICJ agreed with India's plea that the case did not come under the ICJs jurisdiction and did not hear the matter any further. Here, the ICJ has already passed judgement granting a stay on the execution
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Falijee, you posted the article about Islamabad Club membership from 2013!!
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As I mentioned in foreign policy dhaga, it is a big big mistake by India. It will come to haunt us. We are jupping up and down now. It same as Chacha ji dI'd with kashmir. Bad for indiIan foreign policy.
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rsingh wrote:As I mentioned in foreign policy dhaga, it is a big big mistake by India. It will come to haunt us. We are jupping up and down now. It same as Chacha ji dI'd with kashmir. Bad for indiIan foreign policy.
Did you see this bit above?
But when the two countries signed on to the Vienna Convention, "Article I of the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations concerning the Compulsory Settlement of Disputes of 24 April 1963" gave jurisdiction on consular matters to ICJ. That is the provision India has used this time.
GoI went to ICJ as Pakistanis denied us the consular access to an Indian national. Under this provision, Pakis cannot approach ICJ to try any INDIAN NATIONAL.
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Social Development For Paki Ayeshas Outsourced To Massa :roll:

USAID launches women empowerment programme in South Punjab

U.S. Consulate General Lahore organizes Girls Cricket Coaching Camp to promote girls’ empowerment

PS: Have the "Mullah Brigade" stamped their approval of this forward looking initiatives ; did the US Consulate in La-Whore seek the approval of the Mullahs lest they be accused of "corrupting the morals of Pakistani youths" . As a quid pro quo, did the Mullahs seek some sort of assurance from the consulate that their visas to visit Massaland ( Las Vegas and Miami for R&R) would not be rejected :mrgreen:
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Just like all Pakis have to sign a document that prophet mohammad is the true prophet and noone else, before getting a visa for hajj
Similarly all pakis should have to sign a document stating that J&K is an integral part of India
This can be extended to all the visitors from hooman right luuving hip pocket sized ouiropean countries too

Just saying
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g.sarkar wrote: He kept on asking how was the landing? how was the landing? He was only trying to land his cock-pit on her strip. A job for marde-Momin.
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It seems to me the guy asking "how was the landing" on the video was the whistle-blower, not the pilot. The lady seemed to be a "whistle-blower" of sorts too :wink:
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Kulbhushan Jadhav's death sentence: Case’s international shift may help Sharif one-up Pakistan army - ToI
The International Court of Justice's (ICJ) decision to ask Pakistan to stay the execution of Indian national Kulbhushan Jadhav+ could allow Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif to try and wrest some leverage from the army and prise open the door to diplomacy.

The ICJ decision puts a lot of pressure on Pakistan, and more particularly its army, to not carry out the death sentence handed out to Jadhav on alleged charges of spying ,and weakens the military's grip on events.

Though no political party in Pakistan has spoken against the death sentence, it has been clear that Sharif and the government have largely been bystanders as the army held and tried the Indian. In fact, the Pakistan army's aggression along the Line of Control and the death sentence handed to Jadhav by a secret military court with no access to the normal judicial procedure left Sharif with few options. But now, the ICJ order provides a reason to argue that the matter has assumed larger proportions, with Pakistan risking serious international opprobrium if it carries out the death sentence.

Though the argument will not be made so plainly, sections in Pakistan could point out that the army's heavy-handed ways have once again resulted in embarrassment and dented the country's image.

India's decision to move the ICJ+ clearly indicates the priority PM Narendra Modi attaches to the case and Jadhav's safety, and the Indian government is expected to make a strong case for a more binding interim order on Monday, when the court hears the case.

Sharif has reportedly been keen to restart the political process with India and the ICJ+ decision gives him the room to take the initiative and reduce the military's say on the Jadhav case.

So far, the Pakistan army under Gen Qamar Bajwa has seemed determined to carry out the death sentence, given a string of statements about Jadhav's alleged complicity in terrorist acts.

Executing Jadhav — like the beheadings of Indian soldiers on May 1 — would serve to further shut the door on talks and up the hostility with India in keeping with the Pakistan army's intent to stoke violence in J&K. Sharif can begin to explore the possibilities of a negotiated settlement to the Jadhav case, starting with ensuring the death sentence is not carried out and moving to providing consular access to India. This would undercut the Pakistan army's agenda, which entails reckless confrontation with India over the ongoing violence in the Kashmir Valley.
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The death sentences issued by Army Courts go for confirmation to the COAS and if approved, are carried out by the Pakistani Army's death squads, not under any judicial supervision or oversight.

The PA is not under the control of any President or Prime Minister or the Defence Secretary. The PA might therefore carry out the assassination, that is if it has not been done already, while GoP may plead that it was a military matter over which the ICJ had no jurisdiction. The Chinese may create some noise too supporting PA as they have been doing in other cases as well.
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