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India this week committed Rs 10,000 crore to indigenously develop the world’s fastest supercomputer by 2017. The Planning Commission agreed in principle to provide the funds to the Indian Space Research Organsiation (ISRO) and Indian Institute of Science (IIS), Bangalore to develop a supercomputer with a performance of 132.8 exaflops (132 quintillion floating operations per second). A quintillion has 18 zeros (a million has six)
What is with the 132.8 exaflop? Don`t we first need to hit the petaflop performance or we are planning to do a massive leapfrog? somehow CDAC seems to have given up on its leadership role in the supercomputing scene in India.

With Dr. Karmarkar leaving the Tata organization, there seems to be no successor for the Eka.
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India's Earth-Observing System Comes Under Fire
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Science 27 May 2011: Vol. 332 no. 6033 p. 1023, DOI: 10.1126/science.332.6033.1023
NEW DELHI—India's space officials were expecting a friendly get-together with the prime minister on 9 May to review images from a new satellite, but instead they got probing questions. The normally soft-spoken head of state, Manmohan Singh, demanded to know why satellites of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) were of no use in locating a recent air crash. On 30 April, a helicopter carrying Dorjee Khandu, chief minister of the eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh, went down near the border with Bhutan. ISRO—whose Earth-imaging operation includes a search-and-rescue function—was unable to find the wreckage. Villagers on foot found it 5 days later; Khandu did not survive.

The reason for the delay, ISRO Chair K. Radhakrishnan told Singh, was that the rainforest site was under heavy cloud cover and couldn't be seen. Nor did India's RISAT-II, an Israeli-made cloud-penetrating radar satellite with a resolution of 1 meter, offer help.


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Tarnished image. ISRO Chair K. Radhakrishnan (left) and V. K. Dadhwal (right), director of the National Remote Sensing Centre, were cross-examined by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh (center) when they briefed him on 9 May.
CREDIT: SHIVRAJ/GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

“We worked day and night but failed to identify the crash site,” Radhakrishnan acknowledged in an interview with Science. He said that ISRO initially was misled by incorrect information from local authorities and by “false signals” caused by steep, mountainous terrain. The incident tarnished ISRO's image. A 5 May banner on The Times of India read, “Villagers Succeed Where Hi-Tech Failed.”

ISRO was already under fire for the alleged inefficiency of its 10-satellite Earth-observing system, one of the world's largest. Critics say that it is expensive, poorly managed, and saddled with security restrictions that stifle its use by researchers and companies.

Some of these criticisms came to the fore in April when government auditors handed Parliament a scathing 57-page review of the National Remote Sensing Centre (NRSC) in Hyderabad, ISRO's Earth-observing arm. The Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) conducted a “performance audit” of seven remote-sensing satellites over 7 years and found that they had been built without an adequate assessment of need. The system lacked an “appropriate marketing strategy,” CAG found. And CAG faulted the network for “delays in data processing.”

NRSC was meant to support national remote-sensing projects on food and water security, conversion of wastelands into usable land, and disaster management. But CAG faulted ISRO for poor interagency coordination. For example, CAG noted, the Ministry of Rural Development entrusted NRSC to map the inventory of wasteland using satellites in 1986. It took 14 years to produce the maps. NRSC says the pace was slow in part because it failed to get timely input from the Ministry of Rural Development. The bottom line, according to CAG, is that “inadequate co-ordination contributed to non-reclamation of 86.5 % of the targeted wastelands.”

Another vexing issue is the system's low usage rate. CAG found that 89% of all remote-sensing images in the collection are “idling,” or lying unused in NRSC archives. V. Jayaraman, who until April was director of NRSC, says weather is partly to blame: “A third of the time, India is cloud-covered during the monsoons, during which time images yield nothing but yet have to be stored.”

The CAG report says that between 2002 and 2009, India spent almost $551 million to design and launch the seven satellites it examined; in this period NRSC sold data worth about $39 million, recovering 7% of that expenditure. The CAG report says this was not even enough to “match its yearly operational expenditure.” Radhakrishnan acknowledges that CAG's numbers are accurate but says that the system was not meant to pay for itself: “Nowhere [in the world] is remote sensing a commercially viable service.”

The biggest headache for companies and nonprofit researchers hoping to use satellite images may be India's 2001 Remote Sensing Data Policy. It gives NRSC a monopoly within India to control access to images with less than 5.8-meter resolution—not just images from Indian satellites but also those from foreign sources. The policy is “primitive,” says Arup Dasgupta, managing editor of Geospatial World, based here, who spent 35 years at ISRO working on remote sensing. Furthermore, Dasgupta says, the policy is “unimplementable, as it only hampers the policy-abiders, not the policy bypassers.” (India does not block Google Earth images on the Internet.)

Thomas Snitch, a consultant to the GeoEye Foundation, a Herndon, Virginia–based remote-sensing nonprofit, agrees that the policy is a major problem. In an e-mail, he wrote that, “If an Indian researcher or student applies to the GeoEye Foundation for free imagery, I must turn them down unless they have an NRSC license.” There was a time when India rejected applications by citing the need to protect national security, he notes. But applications are often “summarily denied with little or no justification” and no line of appeal. At the same time, Snitch says, would-be buyers may be contacted by ISRO's commercial arm, the Antrix Corp., and informed that they can buy Antrix imagery. “I know of no other nation that operates in this manner,” Snitch says.

Kumar Navulur of DigitalGlobe Inc. in Longmont, Colorado, a company that owns imaging satellites, has a more charitable view. He says India needs to balance defense and commercial interests and weigh each case individually, as “programs are designed to get the right intelligence at the right time.”

It is true, Radhakrishnan says, that because of the 2001 policy, ISRO cannot freely disseminate remote-sensing data that has a resolution of less than 5.8 meters. But he indicates that “the remote-sensing policy is being reviewed.”
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More than anything with the policy of restricted data use within India, we are shooting ourselves in the foot in terms of increasing the data usage. Only way to increase usage of ISRO satellite data outside of immediate NRSC needs is to make it available more freely or even free of cost following a fixed period after acquisition to avoid security risks. That is make it freely available say after a two week period for all registered users in academia. This will ensure more of ISRO data being used in research publications which leads to more visibility and will finally give them more clients in the near real time user world.
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abhishek, Last photo. One of them is a BRF member!
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[quote="Yugandhar"]What is with the 132.8 exaflop? Don`t we first need to hit the petaflop performance or we are planning to do a massive leapfrog? /quote]

Probably DDM, we might be targeting for 132.8 Penta Flops.. That itself is a jump of multiple Zeros from the 220 Tera Flops which was unveiled in May 2011. Probably by the end of the presentation, someone would have asked what is next after 132 Penta Flops, he would have answere Exa flops, our Chai Bikoot DDM would have just come back to the interview and caught Exa flops.
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India has firm orders to launch 12 foreign satellites.

India has firm orders to launch 12 foreign satellites over the next few years, Chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation K Radhakrishnan said on Wednesday.

He said ISRO has so far launched 26 foreign satellites by the home-grown Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV)."We have today about 12 satellites...a firm order is there and scheduled to be launched in the coming two years," he told reporters.

ISRO officials said these satellites were mainly Canadian, German and Indonesian, including a 800-kg spacecraft - environment monitoring satellite - from DLF Germany.Others mainly fall in the 40-100 kg category though there are some micro-satellites also that India would launch.

Officials of the space agency would not talk about price-points for these launches, terming them to be "market-sensitive". But market sources say launching one kg of payload would cost around USD 20,000.

Asked if the controversial Antrix-Devas deal (Antrix is the marketing arm of ISRO) had an impact on ISRO in terms of "pull-back" on launches of foreign satellites from Indian soil, Radhakrishnan replied in negative."We do not think (that there is an impact). There is a very strong demand for launching a few of the world-class remote sensing satellites by (India''s) PSLV", he said.
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ramana wrote:abhishek, Last photo. One of them is a BRF member!
Really? :eek:

Can you identify which one? If not publicly then may be a private message
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No design deficiency in GSLV, says Failure Analysis Committee
A failure analysis committee has given the thumbs up to India's Geo-Synchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle saying no design deficiency has been found despite the two failures it suffered last year raising serious concern over its reliability.

"We could not find any design deficiency...," said FAC Chairman and former chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) G Madhavan Nair.

Last year, ISRO suffered set backs after two GSLV missions, one with the indigenous cryogenic engine and stage and another with the imported Russian ones, failed.

Thereafter, ISRO constituted the FAC to carry out an in-depth analysis of the flight data of GSLV-F06 as well as the data from the previous six flights of GSLV; establish reasons for the failure of GSLV-F06 flight and recommend corrective actions on the GSLV vehicle including the remaining one Russian Cryogenic Stage.

The FAC had 11 experts drawn from within ISRO and outside.

Nair said the problem with GSLV is of "minor nature" and it does not call for major changes. "We need not worry about it (failure). GSLV can only evolve as a successful launcher".

The Space Commission which reviewed the FAC report on May 24, asked ISRO to come up with specific proposals required for investment. GSAT-7 and INSAT-3D, scheduled to be launched by GSLV, would now be procured launches (from outside the country). (this was coming! :| )

The investment that is talked about is in regard to additional costs, if any, for procured launches besides GSAT-14, the payload for the next flight of GSLV, expected after March.
"The idea is that in the next launch of GSLV, we do not want to put a costly, complex satellite," ISRO Chairman Radhakrishnan said. (a good move considering that the next flight will be with ICUS)

He also said that the GSAT-12 equipped wit 12 transponders in the Extended C-band, is planned to be launched in the second week of July.
(next PSLV flight)

ISRO today started the process of switching on the payloads on board the GSAT-8 launched last month. Services from this satellite is expected to be available for users by the end of this month, Radhakrishnan said.
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babbupandey wrote:
ramana wrote:abhishek, Last photo. One of them is a BRF member!
Really? :eek:

Can you identify which one? If not publicly then may be a private message
The last person with a dark shirt was young that time. If I am correct
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I would like to read that FAC report if it comes out. How can GSLV suffer two flight failures and nothing be wrong with it? And if so why schedule launches from abroad?
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Acharya wrote:The last person with a dark shirt was young that time. If I am correct
Is the tall person to the left of Sarabhai the current ISRO chairman ? Madhavan Nair is visible to the right of Kalam. The dark shirt in the extreme right of the picture could be one of the other VSSC directors, BN Suresh who is also from that era ? That leaves only one person next to Nair and probably the mystery man BRF member. :)
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No more discussion.
Thanks, ramana
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something fishy here!!! Hopefully, they do a non-critical launch and get their act together for the mega satellites lined up.
Do we need GSLV for the Military Satellites or can PSLV do it?
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Well the critical words are "minor nature". Means there is something and it can be fixed. But they are not taking chances and flying a low value/non critical payload.
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ramana wrote:I would like to read that FAC report if it comes out. How can GSLV suffer two flight failures and nothing be wrong with it? And if so why schedule launches from abroad?
The problem IMHO is the constant tinkering that has been done to GSLV while it is yet to become a fully matured system. It's different in this aspect from the way the PSLV program evolved. Moving forward, the Mk-II design is frozen and there shouldn't be any major changes in the GSLV until the Mk-2 becomes a proven platform.
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I guess we didnt see this report earlier of May 14th, 2011

Deal Terms stymied checks on Russian Engine

'Deal terms stymied checks on Russian engine health'
Bangalore, May 14,


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ISRO Chairman K Radhakrishnan on Saturday said weakness in a particular component of the Russia-supplied cryogenic engine, which had led to the GSLV-F06 blowing up shortly after launch last December, was an inherent problem and that the Russians have also admitted to it now.


On a specific query on whether ISRO conducts independent examinations on the condition of the engines supplied by Russia, he said: “The contractual norms prevents us from doing that. We get the engines that are certified by Russian agencies, and integrate them in the presence of Russian representatives and launch the vehicle.”

This episode, besides problems with Russian hardware, has also thrown up an issue that the ISRO will have to address –– a probable revisit of the kind of agreements it has with other agencies.

So far, ISRO has been accepting the hardware, particularly the cryogenic engines, in a sealed condition and the question is whether another round of examination from the Indian organisation can help detect such problems.

Stating that a weak ‘shroud’ in the Russian engine was the reason the launch vehicle had failed last December, Radhakrishnan said: “We are now informed that the problem also existed during the launch of GSLV-F04 in 2007, but it had not manifested, thereby, allowing a successful launch.”

Issues undetected

He was quick to explain that there were chances of some issues going undetected and sometimes they were only known after a failure like GSLV-F06.

“It was only after the analysis of the failure of the engine of the GSLV-F06 did the Russians and we became aware of the problem,” he said, but did not comment on whether there was any form of compensation from their Russian counterparts for the loss incurred by India.

The problem was detected and communicated to the Russians by the Failure Analysis Committee (FAC) headed by former ISRO Chairman Madhavan Nair.

In the backdrop of the successive failures of the Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV) programme, ISRO has, on priority, decided that it will do a complete audit of the programme before launching further satellites on the platform, Radhakrishnan said. And this has directly impacted other future programmes like the Chandrayaan-II and the ambitious Human Space Programme, to be launched on the GSLV platform.

On the status of the two missions, Radhakrishnan said: “...Our first priority is to set right the issues with GSLV. However, both Chandrayaan-II and the manned mission are on schedule.”

He said work on some critical technologies, including crew module, environment control and life support system and crew escape system for the manned mission, were progressing at the desired pace.

While the FAC and GSLV Review Committee headed by former ISRO Chairman Kasturirangan have submitted their reports in April, the findings and recommendations will now be vetted by a panel comprising G K Menon, U R Rao, Kasturirangan, Madhavan Nair and Abdul Kalam, among other people.

This will then reach the Space Commission, the Department of Space and ISRO.
It should be MGK Menon.

There was another committe also to submit its report.


if we had seen this report, then we would have understood today's report.

The defect was in a sub-system component and not the GSLV per se.
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ramana wrote:I guess we didnt see this report earlier of May 14th, 2011
Deal Terms stymied checks on Russian Engine 'Deal terms stymied checks on Russian engine health'
The defect was in a sub-system component and not the GSLV per se.
Thanks Ramana, I don't think anyone would have got the significance of this report, Actually I saw this but never paid attention to the detail..

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I think all our Ministries and Department need good Agreements and Contracts lawyers, we seem to repeatedly screw-up on terms and conditions.
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cheenum wrote:I think all our Ministries and Department need good Agreements and Contracts lawyers, we seem to repeatedly screw-up on terms and conditions.
It might be a question of taking it or leaving it.
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PratikDas wrote:
cheenum wrote:I think all our Ministries and Department need good Agreements and Contracts lawyers, we seem to repeatedly screw-up on terms and conditions.
It might be a question of taking it or leaving it.
Remeber this deal was signed in the late 1990's when the Clinton Admin was busy Armtwisting Russians from backing out of any satellitte deals with India. Russia at that time had to cancel TOT for India as per the demands of the US.

Wonder what is the state of indegenious Cryogenic Engine. Looks like GSLV will never be a sucess unless we move to an indegenious cryogenic engine.
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ISRO to orbit GSAT-8 in July.

Hard on the heels of the successful launch of the advanced GSAT-8 communications satellite, state-owned Indian Space Research Organisation is gearing up for the launch of another advanced communication satellite – GSAT-12. The GSAT-8 will be put into geosynchronous orbit in the second week of July.

While the heavy, 3,100 kg, GSAT-8 was put into geosynchronous orbit by the European Ariane-5 rocket, ISRO will utilise a modified version of its workhorse polar satellite launch vehicle, the PSLV-C17, to put GSAT-12 into a similar orbit.

The 1,400kg GSAT-12 will be launched from the spaceport at Sriharikota. ''The 320-tonne heavy rocket will have extended strap-on's for carrying solid and liquid propellants to put the spacecraft in the geosynchronous orbit in two stages,' ISRO chairman, K Radhakrishnan, told reporters here. The Rs148-crore GSAT-12 will have 12 extended C-band transponders for communications and weather forecast services. The launch cost is about Rs100 crore.

The GSAT-12 is configured as a replacement of INSAT-3B. It is configured on the well proven I-1K bus structure with the power handling capability of around 919 watts.The GSAT-12 has been built at the space agency's satellite centre in this tech hub and will be shipped to Sriharikota in Andhra Pradesh Thursday.

''As we are using a polar launch vehicle to place the satellite in the geosynchronous orbit, the spacecraft will be first placed in the lower elliptical orbit between 284 km perigee (closer to earth) and 21,000 km apogee (away from earth) and subsequently transferred into the intended orbit in stages, between 21,000 km perigee and 36,000 km apogee,' Radhakrishnan said.

In the run-up to the launch mission, the rocket will be assembled at the Satish Dhawan Space Centre at Sriharikota and integrated with control systems and avionics. ''The solid and liquid stages are going through final checks before strapping them onto the rocket. The entire exercise, including assembling, integration and tests will be completed by June 26 for launching the mission in the second week of July the chairman said.
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the kasturirangan review report has asked ISRO to launch a GSLV with a dummy payload to build up data bank for all phases of the flight. it has also asked to redouble efforts to make the domestic cryogenic engine work and indigenize all its parts to evade problems with foreign suppliers.
also it has asked to invest in comprehensive test facilities in India, instead of depending for certain things on foreign test facilities

these seem to be the three main points per TOI today. I think they are great recos and should be implemented with full force.
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Makes sense, but this begs a question, aren't these pretty obvious? why didn't ISRO do this in the first place? should we lose two missions and multiple sats to do this?
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cheenum wrote:Makes sense, but this begs a question, aren't these pretty obvious? why didn't ISRO do this in the first place? should we lose two missions and multiple sats to do this?
Everything is obvious in hindsight.
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to play in big league we need expanded budgets, national focus and comprehensive testing facilities thats for sure.

we are still not quite there in a proven heavy launcher for 5-10t into MEO 500-700km which is the range of a truly heavy IMINT satellite like KH12 (lots of fuel for long life and orbit changes). if we can get GSLV mk3 working for 3t to GTO work, this capability will come on side as a bonus.
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cheenum wrote:Makes sense, but this begs a question, aren't these pretty obvious? why didn't ISRO do this in the first place? should we lose two missions and multiple sats to do this?
That might have been true for a development flight like D3 but the argument doesn't necessarily hold for operational flights like F06.
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cheenum wrote:Makes sense, but this begs a question, aren't these pretty obvious? why didn't ISRO do this in the first place? should we lose two missions and multiple sats to do this?

Not really. The first loss was due to the Indian cryo not working.
The second loss is due to the nature of the contract with Russia due to US sanctions. It was treated as black box. The loads due to larger fairing were second order loads that affected the shroud connector support.

I think instead of a dummy payload they should launch an experimental sat so they also get on orbit data. And if it works great or else its OK.
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So, I would rate the first loss less riskier than the second loss., whoever was the decision making authority, perhaps may take deeper analysis to go with second option in the future. Nevertheless, it is out of question.. now.
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ramana wrote:
cheenum wrote:Makes sense, but this begs a question, aren't these pretty obvious? why didn't ISRO do this in the first place? should we lose two missions and multiple sats to do this?
I think instead of a dummy payload they should launch an experimental sat so they also get on orbit data. And if it works great or else its OK.
I would agree with you, send a small/disposable satellite, we can use this validate placing it in the desired orbiting position. May be even use it later for some target practice!!!
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ramana wrote: Not really. The first loss was due to the Indian cryo not working. The second loss is due to the nature of the contract with Russia due to US sanctions. It was treated as black box. The loads due to larger fairing were second order loads that affected the shroud connector support.

I think instead of a dummy payload they should launch an experimental sat so they also get on orbit data. And if it works great or else its OK.
For the first GSLV loss, I recall it was because the desi cryo did not ignite (or, it did ignite briefly but shut down quickly). Was there a conclusion on why the cryo did not ignite? If anyone knows, could you please post the finding and/or a link.

With the second loss due to a part that was designed in a different country, I really wonder what ISRO can do about it, other than to demand a knowledge of every structural part in the Russian engine. Or else, next time, yet another part might fail because of 'secondary' reasons. (This time it was due to aerodynamic loading causing a buckling in the part?). The problem is that a secondary failure due to 'minor' reasons is as much a mission failure as if a major component failed. There is no minor part or minor issue in a launch.
the kasturirangan review report has asked ISRO to launch a GSLV with a dummy payload to build up data bank for all phases of the flight.
I suppose this implies that the amount of sensors + wiring + other electonics to gather data for the data bank will be about 2 tonnes (=payload weight). If that is not the case, I guess this must be in reaction to the criticism about loss of expensive, complex satellites.

I was assuming that all the critical data had been gathered. If not, they should get that done as the very first step to determine the limits of all the critical parts for primary and secondary (and tertiary) loading. It seems like the Russians engineered their part very close to its structural limit (or the part was substandard) and the latest GLSV launch confirmed the limit of their part- an expensive way to find that out. It is highly likely that there are other parts in the Ruskie cryo also engineered very close to the limit. What is ISRO going to do about that? (BTW, did ISRO ask the Ruskies before they made the fairing change, and if so, did the Ruskies tell ISRO about potential aerodynamic issues? Did the Ruskies even suspect that aerodynamic loads could break their shroud? I suspect not. Life is very complicated with black box engineering).

And finally, I dont know what they mean when they say 'dummy payload' but I would support the idea of sending small satellites built by desi universities (like the recent one by Anna Univ.). If there is a loss, no complex satellite is lost. If it is a success, you get launch and orbital data plus engineering students in SDRE universities who have built functional satellites.
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Singha wrote:to play in big league we need expanded budgets, national focus and comprehensive testing facilities thats for sure.

we are still not quite there in a proven heavy launcher for 5-10t into MEO 500-700km which is the range of a truly heavy IMINT satellite like KH12 (lots of fuel for long life and orbit changes). if we can get GSLV mk3 working for 3t to GTO work, this capability will come on side as a bonus.
Some small corrections:

* The KH-series operate in LEO in an eliptical orbit (perigee at ca 300 km and apogee at ca 900-1000 km) and MEO is further out.
* The later KH's weighs around 18-20 metric tons.

But then again, you can have a lot of "fun" with a 10t IMINT satellite as well =)
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ISRO to begin flight testing of GSLV MkIII in next two years.

The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) on Tuesday said it will start flight testing of the GSLV Mk III for launching four-tonne class of satellites in the next two years.

Addressing the National Technology Summit here, ISRO Chairman K Radhakrishnan said the space agency would be completing work on the Astrosat and the Aditya projects by 2012 and 2013 respectively.

"In the next two years, we are looking to begin the flight-testing of the GSLV Mk III engine, which will be the third-largest in the world," he said.

It is intended to launch heavy satellites into geostationary orbit, and will allow India to become less dependent on foreign rockets for heavy lifting. Astrosat is India's first dedicated astronomy satellite whereas Aditya is a spacecraft whose mission is to study the Sun.

Speaking on the occasion, Science and Technology Minister Pawan Kumar Bansal said the private industry should also start increasing its share in investment in research and development. "In India, the total investment in research and development is 0.8 per cent of the GDP and out of that, the private sector contributes only 20 per cent. That needs to be increased," he said.

The Minister said there was a need to increase interface between the academia, industry and research and development institutions to combine their efforts for creating resources in the country. Planning Commission Member K Kasturirangan and CSIR chief Samir K Brahmachari were also present at the occasion.
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About Vikram Sarabhai: From this book
The apparatus Vikram picked instead was the Geiger counter. From a story narrated by Raman's (C. V. Raman) nephew, S. Rameseshan, also an established scientist, this was not Raman's preference. Raman, Ramaseshan recalls Vikram telling him, had suggested that he make photographic emulsion plates like Marietta Blau and Herta Wambacher had done in 1937, and take them to a height to observe the star-like tracks formed by fragments of photo plate emulsion nucleus blown apart by cosmic rays. 'You may find something new,' Raman had apparently urged, 'and win the Nobel prize.' Vikram opted for a Geiger counter instead of the Photo plate, preferring the former for its adaptability and precision. Many years later, claims Ramaseshan, when Vikram told him about Raman's advice he also added that C. F. Powell did indeed succeed in finding a new particle with a photo particle and won the Nobel for it. 'He laughed and said if he had listened to Raman it might have been his discovery,' Ramaseshan says.
Homi J. Bhabha, whose likeness was to grace every lobby and corridor of the AEC's various units, was a complex individual. Itty Abraham who referred to letters and views of Bhabha's seniors and colleagues in his early years abroad for his book, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb, suggests that contrary to his colossal reputation in India, Bhabha had a very different image in the Western mind. In the West, Bhabha's much-touted scientific achievements, his artistic pretensions and love of Western music, far from impressing people, had caused confusion. Used to more clear demarcations between 'blacks' and whites, his colleagues had responded to him with exaggerated superciliousness, turning him into a Caliban-like figure, 'almost speaking physics but not quite, physically present but betraying his unscientific origins, a child of the world who had yet to come to full maturity.

The perception must have hurt; it appeared to have played a significant role in shaping Bhabha's psyche. His manner towards subordinates was often described as scoffingly disdainful and he took a particular delight in behaving imperiously with Westerners. 'He liked to make the white man wait,' is how a senior American academician put it.
The manner in which Vikram spoke about the ongoing [NPT] negotiations and his distress at the manner in which they were proceeding, however, do tell a heartfelt commitment to a nuclear-free world. To McNamara he said: 'The developing international nuclear situation possesses the characteristics of a Greek tragedy in which the actors are drawn inexorably to fates which they are seeking to avoid'. Mallika, once telephoning him on one of those trips, found him extremely disturbed. 'People don't seem to understand that the nuclear way is the wrong way to go', he said to her agitatedly. He was convinced, his daughter claims, that 'strength was not in being macho. India had to show the moral path.'
Subrahmanyam, who by then had taken over as head of the Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses from Som Dutt, was travelling to Vienna en route to a summit in France and ran into Vikram on flight. Vikram launched into a dialogue that continued for hours in the narrow aisle separating first class from economy. At some point Subhramanyam recalls raising a tricky question. He had heard from his sources that a bitter battle was under way between the DRDO and AEC's BARC to procure a contract to develop the phased array radar, an instrument for detecting invading missiles. 'If you are not keen on this sort of militarization then why is BARC vying for this contract? he asked Vikram. Surprised, Vikram retorted with an answer Subrahmanyam recalls vividly: 'Who am I to shut off all these options for future generations? I am only saying at present I am not for the bomb.'
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abhishek_sharma wrote:About Vikram Sarabhai: From this book
Thanks for the link. Did not know that Vikram Sarabhai was a Dasa Shrimali Jain.
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All this is fine and dandy, however India needs to develop dedicated satellite uplink and downlink jammers and jamming capability to ensure that it is capable in EW.
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ISRO prepares first national inventory of wetlands.

A detailed national inventory of wetlands has been prepared on the basis of satellite imagery by ISRO, highlighting areas of critical ecological significance and those which are facing extreme threat due to developmental activities.

This is for the first time in India that the city-based Space Application Centre (SAC), a part of ISRO, has prepared such an inventory and atlas of all the wetlands that are existing in the country.

"Wetlands are the most productive ecosystems which play crucial role in hydrological cycle like helping in storm and flood control, water supply, providing food, fibre and raw materials and in recreational benefits," said SAC Director Dr Ranganth R Navalgund.

They also support lakhs of migratory birds coming from colder regions of the world in summers, apart from diverse local flora and fauna.

"However, the very existence of these unique resources is under threat due to developmental activities and population pressure. This calls for long-term planning for preservation and conservation of these resources," Navalgund said.

"Creating an updated and accurate database that supports research and decision making is the first step towards this. SAC took up this challenging task under the project National Wetland Inventory and Assessment (NWIA) sponsored by Ministry of Environment and Forests," he said.

"Two-date, satellite data acquired during pre and post-monsoon seasons are used for inventory of wet and dry season hydrology of wetlands. They have been categorised in 19 classes and mapped following standard map projection. The map outputs include status of water spread, aquatic vegetation and turbidity," Navalgund said.
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GSAT-12, a geosync satellite 2 b launched by PSLV on Jul 15

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GSAT-12 ISRO's Communication Satellite, a geosynchronous satellite to be launched by PSLV.The launch date has been finalized on July 15, 2011.

Indian Space Research Organization’s engineers are busy getting the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV-C17) ready at Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Sriharikota. The PSLV-C17 will carry GSAT-12 – India’s communications satellite. The GSAT-12 satellite is special in its own way. It weighs 1410 kg at lift-off and features 12 Extended C-band transponders.

PSLV-C17′s mission is to launch the GSAT-12 in to the elliptical Transfer Orbit (Sub-GTO) of 284 km perigee and 21,000 km apogee. The satellite’s Liquid Apogee Motor will raise both apogee and perigee and put the satellite in the circular orbit of 36k km. All the four stages of the PSLV have been finalized and fully assembled at the Sriharikota center. The whole assembly is now being thoroughly tested and electrical check out is being carried out to avoid last minute schedule changes.

GSAT-12 has already been put through inspection by ISRO engineers. The filling of propellants began on June 28, 2011. The satellite and launch vehicles will be assembled starting July 03 only after green signal by the Launch Authorization Board. After the assembly, the whole setup will be moved to the second launch pad on July 10. The 52.5 hour countdown for the actual launch will begin on July 13. The actual launch time is expected to be around 16:48 and 17:08 hrs IST.
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