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Singha wrote:flynn sir might go to jail soon?
very likely. this explains the rush from manafort, etc to offer to appear in front of the intel ctte.
also the nunes/ellis midnight foxtrot on the white house lawn...

winning bigly, getting tired of winning

i am guessing comey may have reminded flynn of his oath of loyalty to the old star spangled banner...
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Singha wrote:can a coalition of red states get together and enact some state level laws saying that people on H1/OPT/L1 cannot work in those states ? or if that is not permissible then enact that $130k type law and make it stick at state level.
Immigration is federal..not much states can do except make some noise about upping the minimum salary for their state, maybe do something with state taxes ..but anything discriminatory opens them out for law suits.

None of that will actually happen, because most of the red states are heavily influenced by industry lobby, who won't throw H1s out. It is not like there is a voting base of native workforce in red states that can compete for H1 jobs and are disgruntled now.
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roughly speaking red states are low in knowledge workers and high in manual workers...?
thats a big demographic issue that banning H1's is not going to solve
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I don't understand the reasoning behind sanctuary cities and all the blue cities stating openly that their police officers, cities administration won't co-operate with Federal Immigration agencies like ICE. Much of it is again vote bank politics since all these blue cities have substantial number of Hispanics, many of whom may be illegal. Any targeting towards that community will tick off USC Hispanics as well...but still it is funny to see the city folks not address or deflect the fact that undocumented folks broke the law in first place (I understand illegal presence in US is a civil issue not a criminal one). Anyways, all the major cities have stated that they won't honor detain request from ICE on any undocumented person's arrest. They have also refused to share arrest or identity details of any undocumented individual when arrested with ICE/Federal Agencies. In turn POTUS/GOTUS is turning the heat ON these cities by threatening to with hold Federal grants from Justice Dept to Sanctuary cities. Seattle has already filed lawsuit against Federal Justice Dept and have stated that they will continue with the Sanctuary City policy. More sanctuary cities have threatened to approach the court. I don't think the country was this divisive even during GW Bush 2 times.
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If dt is tied down and stonewalled at federal level he will encourage states to go the legislative route. Repubs also control congress.
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Singha wrote:serious questions - now that the cleavages between red and white states is growing wider, congress is non-functional and various witchunts for and against DT continue to occupy much time .... can a coalition of red states get together and enact some state level laws saying that people on H1/OPT/L1 cannot work in those states ? or if that is not permissible then enact that $130k type law and make it stick at state level.

the US states have a lot more freedom in legal sense than indian states, but I am not sure how much is the margin...

why would the red states want to wait for a fading DT to do something other than pour water on the daily fire that people set under his chair ?
denial or limiting drivers license can cause serious pain. Most red states have nonexistent public transport, esp from the burbs.
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that sort of stuff won't stand in courts. at best they can make folks renew license every year based on their I94 and AP dates ..as some waiting for their GC are forced in some states.
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Laptop story indicated on BRF some dins ago has now been confirmed by See Enn Enn. They show an interesting picture but don't talk about it. Bottom line:
Your laptop and iPad
Don't leave for the airport with them
Cutting out few airports/airlines does nothing IMO. Except that maybe they have devised countermeasures that they are not willing to share with the 10 airports and the 6 airlines. But how long will it take for those folks to figure out the same thing I just wrote, and pay someone to leak the info? All they have to do is check the email of some US Top Aphsar whose password is "password" or, if extreme, Pa$$w0rd.

Putting it inside checked baggage is no solution. One explosion may trigger symp. detonation from 5 others (how many boarded a plane at one time on 9/11/2001 or on the IA flight in Dec. 99?) and that's that. Putting it in the center of the plane via the flight attendants' ladder is equally non-guaranteed: the 5 may go off in close proximity and take out the main spar like the TWA flight off Rhode Island.

So I think in the very near future there will be a blanket ban on laptops. Next: hard-metal checked baggage.
How much would it cost to Courier a Mac PowerBook from Desh to Yoo-Ess or vice versa I wonder. Then again, where do Courier packages go? :eek:
I think this is all a con by the Cloud Computing ppl in league with the in-flight $$ movie people. Plus the whisky manufacturers.
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This guy Flynn seems to hold grudges. He was a Democrat all his life but was fired by Obama and he became Trump's follower with vengeance. Now that he was fired by Trump (must be some kind of a record being fired by TWO Presidents), does he want to hurt Trump, a la Dean? Why does he need immunity unless he has something/someone to give up?
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airlines carry hazardous cargo like certain chemicals with the right paperwork but not all airlines do. generally you are not allowed to pack it yourself but must hand it over to a certified shipping agency who knows all the rules and will do the packing and necessary paperwork. I dont know if passenger flights carry such cargo or only cargo flights do - rules might be more relaxed for the cargo flights.

the onlee other option is a 12knot container ship from India to europe and then onto massa . could take a while to reach.
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Gus wrote:that sort of stuff won't stand in courts. at best they can make folks renew license every year based on their I94 and AP dates ..as some waiting for their GC are forced in some states.
I agree....based on validity of visas/parole/485 a lot of small but irritating pain points can be used. like mandate the need to carry original docs all the time and spread some fear by random checks on the roads followed by detainment until someone shows up with originals at the local thana. make them spent a weekend in county jail by doing it late on friday night so that court opens only on monday morning.
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pravula wrote:
Singha wrote:serious questions - now that the cleavages between red and white states is growing wider, congress is non-functional and various witchunts for and against DT continue to occupy much time .... can a coalition of red states get together and enact some state level laws saying that people on H1/OPT/L1 cannot work in those states ? or if that is not permissible then enact that $130k type law and make it stick at state level.

the US states have a lot more freedom in legal sense than indian states, but I am not sure how much is the margin...

why would the red states want to wait for a fading DT to do something other than pour water on the daily fire that people set under his chair ?
denial or limiting drivers license can cause serious pain. Most red states have nonexistent public transport, esp from the burbs.
Well the plan is to pay lip service to everything regarding immigration except illegal one. That is the only thing Trump saar will act on. Rest everything is gonna be status quo, given how beat up his admin already is at this early stage.
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Singha wrote:airlines carry hazardous cargo like certain chemicals with the right paperwork but not all airlines do. generally you are not allowed to pack it yourself but must hand it over to a certified shipping agency who knows all the rules and will do the packing and necessary paperwork.
Singhaji: the See Enn Enn report is that Al-Laugh gave the Momeen a few airport scanners, and they have been sending these ied-books through them until they are quite sure they won't be detected. How much longer then, before one of those gizmos shows up in the hands of abdul strolling thru a fairly remote/small airport INSIDE THE CONUS, that is known for the cluelessness of its workers? Say (never mind) but I can think of quite a few where the screener/ticket agent/gate agent, baggage handler and maybe air traffic controller are all the same person and they can't afford to update their machine every month even if it is not working at all. There is no baggage screening during internal transfers at big airports even to get on international flights. The implications are horrendous. So I don't see what the TeeEssAy can do except total ban unless they have already reconfigured machines inside the CONUS ***at every airport***, which 4 reasons above, does not seem likely.
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Dang! Highway fire in dera Scarlett Khan blamed on 3 homeless ppl. who lived under the highway in the fenced space where the sultan kept pvc pipes and other stuff that made quite a nice bonfire.
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Now there will be T-S-A aeigents under every single bridge. Unemployment will drop from 4.5% to 0%. What a coincidence that few days before MSM was flooded with news about spending billions on "dilapidated", according to so called "experts", infrastructure, specifically roads and bridges.
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saip wrote:Why does he need immunity unless he has something/someone to give up?
i think that he failed to get immunity from the FBI and has now publicly asked for immunity citing his 'exemplary' military record - to gain public sympathy. the intel ctte investigation has said no immunity. nunes tried to block sally yates testimony, but now that will come out... it will likely implicate sessions and flynn. flynn has been openly taking money from russia and turkey and advocating their causes... (not in itself illegal) but the background buzz is that he has been doing a lot more than that - and this is what the committee is about to find out / reveal. several pieces of the jigsaw are starting to come together now and trump is acting more and more erratic (if such a thing were possible)

next few days in washington are going to be interesting
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Bill O’Reilly @ Fox News seems to be raking up the desirable qualification to be the next GOP presidential nominee!

Bill O’Reilly Thrives at Fox News, Even as Sexual Harassment Settlements Add Up
About $13 million has been paid out over the years to address complaints from women about Mr. O’Reilly’s behavior.
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Lalmohan wrote:
saip wrote:Why does he need immunity unless he has something/someone to give up?
i think that he failed to get immunity from the FBI and has now publicly asked for immunity citing his 'exemplary' military record - to gain public sympathy. the intel ctte investigation has said no immunity. nunes tried to block sally yates testimony, but now that will come out... it will likely implicate sessions and flynn. flynn has been openly taking money from russia and turkey and advocating their causes... (not in itself illegal) but the background buzz is that he has been doing a lot more than that - and this is what the committee is about to find out / reveal. several pieces of the jigsaw are starting to come together now and trump is acting more and more erratic (if such a thing were possible)

next few days in washington are going to be interesting
Maybe Trump will use Niel Gorsuch after he becomes Supreme court Chief Justice to help Flynn and Sessions.
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For those of us who have been following the ISIS-Yemen tamashas and the GOTUS' role in those, it is apparent that these "hiyarings" etc etc are all symptoms of the rage of the real traitors: the Deep State genocide-wallahs who are seeing their ambitions being bombed to dust by Putin with approval and understanding from DT&Co. Let us look at this from a calm perspective which only UBCN can bring:
1) What exactly is the role of "Russian Interference" in the US election? It has already been proven by recounts etc that there was **NO** evidence of tampering with the voting machines.
2) The US news networks were not hindered from reporting during the runup to the election.
3) There is no evidence of massive financial flows from Russia to specific political candidates. Have a heart - the Russians are fighting 2 wars, scared to death about NATO opening a third front around Moldavia, oil prices have crashed and their economy is teetering. How much money COULD they pour into the US election?

So from the above, I conclude the only obvious truth: The Russians achieved nothing.

4) If indeed it was the Russians who hacked and exposed Hillary Clinton's crooked plots and projects, and IF that led to Americans voting against her, then the Russians deserve the Medal of Freedom, because they saved freedom from the Clinton scams. What was wrong with exposing HC's duplicity? Yeah, a lot of donkeys will be mad, but the people voted knowledgeably for once.

5) Given the above, a state of affairs where most of the headlines and taking heads are about such non-events, signifies a completely non-functional Legislative Branch. These ******** have no time to bring thoughtful Bills on the Medical System, Retirement, trade, Immigration, Firearms control, Education.... but they have time to waste on this nonsense.

Which comes around and proves the wisdom of those who voted for DT. The vote was not for T-Party Hitler Jugend anti-constitutional garbage but for someone to make the bozos in COTUS - and those who elected them - to starting getting their blood circulating through their brains, and earning their pay again. I love what I see happening, say in LA and Sacramento. The Federal courts on Travel Bans and Immigration. The Republicans stomp all over their own mighty little Cheneys on the Medical Care Bill (remember their grandiose claims of a cheaper, more efficient, more effective bill that Americans would love? Uhhh.... given a clear field to do their thing, they couldn't even get their OWN PARTY to back their garbage, the CBO laughed them out of town, and they have to withdraw the bill with tails between their legs. Thoughtful Americans are beginning to get scared enough to speak out.

Now we hope to see Recall Petitions coming thick and fast...
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+1
US public is being fed steady dosage of soviets and russians while totally being kept ignorant about chinese and their abilities whether it is espionage, sabotage, military, political lobbying, etc. Russians can barely field an aircraft carrier while chinese are already gearing up to build many. Hopefully US public wakes up to this and gets off this steady anti russian dosage being fed to them by MSM.
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UlanBatori wrote:Dang! Highway fire in dera Scarlett Khan blamed on 3 homeless ppl. who lived under the highway in the fenced space where the sultan kept pvc pipes and other stuff that made quite a nice bonfire.
the alleged perpetrator......

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/atl ... on-n741566

another trump supporter

happy motoring in Hotlanta....... :roll:
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They kept dem dangerous flammable chemicals such as PROLLY VINYL CHLORIDE under the InterState? Where little children drove over it EVERY DAY? :shock: :eek:
SHOCKING! SHOCKING! Heads must roll for this!
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This has some ramifications if not currently...

US House votes to let ISPs sell your browser history
With a slim majority of 215 to 205, the US House of Representatives just passed a resolution rolling back FCC privacy regulations. Approved last year, the rules required that ISPs get your explicit permission before selling "sensitive data" like your browsing history. The resolution already passed the Senate last week, and now will go before the President, who has said he plans to sign it.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation responded to today's vote with a statement that "If the bill is signed into law, companies like Cox, Comcast, Time Warner, AT&T, and Verizon will have free rein to hijack your searches, sell your data, and hammer you with unwanted advertisements. Worst yet, consumers will now have to pay a privacy tax by relying on VPNs to safeguard their information."

New FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is in support of rolling back the rules, claiming that "the FCC will work with the FTC to ensure that consumers' online privacy is protected through a consistent and comprehensive framework." Once this is signed by the president, it will be up to them just how creepy internet service providers can get.

On the industry side, service providers also make that argument, claiming the privacy rules would've overreached and singled out internet service providers while allowing others like Google and Facebook to sell information. That doesn't, however, take into account how much data our ISP has access to, with the ability to know where you are, who you communicate with and what you say online potentially all up for sale. Also, many customers don't have more than one or two choices for broadband, reducing the possibility for privacy-friendly competition.
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New FCC Chairman Ajit Pai
Big Bro == Bada Bhaiyya! :eek:
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UlanBatori wrote:They kept dem dangerous flammable chemicals such as PROLLY VINYL CHLORIDE under the InterState? Where little children drove over it EVERY DAY? :shock: :eek:
SHOCKING! SHOCKING! Heads must roll for this!
HDPE pipes are widely used in the transportation industry to build "smart" highways that provide information to drivers, control traffic signal lights and tollways. The pipes are also used in the distribution of natural gas and by telecommunication companies such as AT&T and Google Fiber.

The flammability of HDPE is relatively low, Tony Radoszewski, president of the Plastics Pipe Institute, a trade group based in Irving, Texas, told CNN. HDPE would have to be exposed to a high-temperature flame for a considerable amount of time to burn, he said.
"Somebody had to start a fire. It doesn't combust by itself, it needs fuel," Radoszewski told CNN. "Someone had to do it. It's not like someone would have dropped a match and it started."
Investigators are still working to determine how the fire started.
"We're as eager to learn the cause of this fire as anyone," McMurry said.
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I am surprised that this has not been classified as a terrorist attack esp. since the arrestees include at least one AA person. Name does not sound Cuban or M......, unfortunately. Also shows what a good-sized VBIED or even a tanker truck parked under such a place during rush hour could "accomplish". When I first saw this on the news I asked ppl to quit watching because sooner or later they would zoom in on the source of the fire and show the charred bodies in the tanker + family car that I thought were burning under the hwy. In fact they have severe rules limiting tankers and 18-wheelers on this road during rush hour to minimize the daily carnage.

During early morning rush hour the speed is 70mph+ in this place - not bumper to bumper but a very high throughflow. Given that earthquakes are not expected, a sudden break appearing in the roadway would crash about 100 cars, easily, with very little chance of survival. In this case the fire and smoke warned commuters for a long time, and slowed traffic to a crawl b4 the polis stopped traffic and turned everyone around in time.

Meanwhile, several ppl on this thread really need to read this article. Ignore the site's name, it will become apparent as one reads the familiar terminology (familiar to ppl from Bangalore, Kerala and Pune, West Bengal).
Politically slanted it may be, but it is thought-provoking and informative, and brings out several sides of the issue. What it does not touch is the effect of deporting 1.75 million California workers, on the # of votes cast. 8) It may well fall below 100% even, a disaster if it happened in Gujranwala.
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Some people are still sulking that their great leader Mr. Orange Fuhrer lost the popular vote by margin of 3 millions , and won the electoral vote by the slimmest margin of combined total of approx. 39,000 flipped votes in 3 mid western states ( in a country of population of 320+millions that amounts to 0.01%).

The Republican congressmen from California themselves pooh-poohed DT's allegation of illegal's voting. Similarly the NH electoral official lambasted DT for his insinuation. Baseless allegations are not proof of anything.

Already Fuhrer's rating is down to low 30's and surely seems to be headed to 0! Perhaps time to admit mistakes and move on?
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HDPE would have to be exposed to a high-temperature flame for a considerable amount of time to burn, he said.
"Somebody had to start a fire.
Sounds like someone paid someone to say, hold a propane torch for several seconds at the bottom of the piled stuff. This may have happened 15 minutes b4 the smoke and fire became really noticeable and whoever did it may have decamped long ago. Wonder if they had CCTV in these areas - they do at regular intervals on the Hwy itself.
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Dipanker wrote:Some people are still sulking that their great leader Mr. Orange Fuhrer lost the popular vote by margin of 3 millions , and won the electoral vote by the slimmest margin of combined total of approx. 39,000 flipped votes in 3 mid western states ( in a country of population of 320+millions that amounts to 0.01%).

The Republican congressmen from California themselves pooh-poohed DT's allegation of illegal's voting. Similarly the NH electoral official lambasted DT for his insinuation. Baseless allegations are not proof of anything.

Already Fuhrer's rating is down to low 30's and surely seems to be headed to 0! Perhaps time to admit mistakes and move on?
The current ruler(or head of state) is the right representation of massa coming after several decades of 'rulers' hiding behind "massa is the light of the world" propaganda. For far too long, "they" were/are bullying rest of the world. Now the process has started internally.
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here's another fire started by a trump supporter..

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
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....and how is Tech doing in the Jeanne Clery report? ....as required by federal law......
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TSJones wrote:here's another fire started by a trump supporter..
Abdulwali..
Nah! In CA he is just another Peaceful Citizen exercising his Caliph-fornic Values.

I think this fire in dera Scarlett Khan could just as well have been started by someone who happened to be cooking over a propane stove, or using a can of gasoline that they managed to get, hey? The Sultan's Lashkars are desperately trying to invent intent where there was none. Latest CNN headline claims that he "Once Talked About Cocaine" :shock: :eek: WOW! Did he talk about Caviar too? That makes him COTUS material! Maybe a Russian spy?

The fault lies with the Lashkar-e-Sultan for storing huge amounts of petroleum products right below and around the most critical commuter junctions of the city. Note (per local TV channels) that in one shot it wiped out I-85 North and South, GA400 access from/to I-85 so GA 400 is now largely useless, Piedmont Road (east-west), Buford Hwy 13 (N-S) and the commuter access to Peachtree Road/Monroe Drive/Lindbergh MARTA station/Spring St. Plus 17th Street (I have no idea what happened there). Adds a nice 1.5 hours each way to the commute of some 200,000 people. So even at $15/hr, you can add up the weekly toll.
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Dipanker wrote:Some people are still sulking that their great leader Mr. Orange Fuhrer lost the popular vote by margin of 3 millions , ... ?
Boss, you seem to be really pi$$3d off that heroine lost. Not to worried. she is sthong a grand comeback. If heroine doesn't make it you can always fall back to petite heroine, hain jee? :twisted:
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It was much needed for rest of world to see the usa for what it truly is..including those hopeful using numbers and targeted training to enjoy all its milk and honey.

So let it be what it is..red in tooth and claw..good thing is DT shuns the hypocrisy ...so its all cool
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^^^DT with red claws and red teeth, Modi, Sushma Swaraj, Smriti Irani and any number of apologetic SDRE sub-groups can't deter those who are determined to drink the milk and honey.
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Singha wrote:..good thing is DT shuns the hypocrisy ...so its all cool
he shuns one type of it, but introduces another one of his own... the implications of the flynn episode are potentially quite large... get some popcorn and watch
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Lalmohan wrote: the implications of the flynn episode are potentially quite large... get some popcorn and watch
this thing is becoming so toxic that anybody who touches it ...catches it.

like that Nunes guy..he goes to WH and gets briefing and then goes again to give them that briefing :rotfl: trying to give cover and now ended up taking cover

it is becoming clear that all the institutions are heavily politicized and polarized - the FBI, CIA, justice dept etc. There are some major internal struggles going on inside these institutions.
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Lalmohan wrote:
saip wrote:Why does he need immunity unless he has something/someone to give up?
i think that he failed to get immunity from the FBI and has now publicly asked for immunity citing his 'exemplary' military record - to gain public sympathy. the intel ctte investigation has said no immunity. nunes tried to block sally yates testimony, but now that will come out... it will likely implicate sessions and flynn. flynn has been openly taking money from russia and turkey and advocating their causes... (not in itself illegal) but the background buzz is that he has been doing a lot more than that - and this is what the committee is about to find out / reveal. several pieces of the jigsaw are starting to come together now and trump is acting more and more erratic (if such a thing were possible)

next few days in washington are going to be interesting
I believe he wants to take immunity because then he take the whole blame and placate the other perpetrators who maybe much bigger fishes. He may have a limited immunity though so there has to be another angle to it too.
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