amit wrote:KLMN,
Very good post. And Oh yes, having spent the most part of my life growing up in West Bengal I know just how parasitic the Leftists are. There has hardly been any original thinking in terms of what to do and what not to do, which is why the Naxal movement was such a waste of precious human resources in terms of brilliant minds going astray. But most of that would be OT here so I won't go on.
Back to topic: Pakistan's reaction leading the NSA talks cancellation is IMO a classic example of how confused the usual suspects have become because the pressure points don't work any more. Meeting the Harried Rats was one such point which they had begun to accept as their right and even idiots like MSA also started believe indeed it was.
But have you noticed two interesting points in the sub-text of Indian red line with regard to such meetings? One is that when this happened the first time when the Pak Amby met the jokers and India cancelled the Foreign Sec level talks, there was an uproar in the press with Hindu, Indian Express carrying highly critical articles and the usual talk shows spouting indignation. This time, since it's become the new normal there was much more muted reaction. The second point is more interesting, Salman Khurshid giving the Congress response of course criticised the cancellation but he also let slip a gem: He said that Pakistan has no right to discuss Kashmir with the Harried Rats.
This what he said:
On the question of the Hurriyat leadership and other separatist representatives meeting with the Pakistan NSA Sartaj Aziz in New Delhi on Sunday, and Pakistan's insistence that the views of the Hurriyat be taken onboard during the talks, Khurshid, said, "Hurriyat can't be a part of this talk."
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This means that this is now become the new normal from the previous normal, espoused by MSA and his ilk, that it's OK for Pakis to talk to the Harried Rats on Kashmir sitting in Delhi.
Expect more such incremental changes.
I think congis / seculars (also farooq abdullah in the interview quoted by SSridhar) are trying to gauge how to split this huriyat baby, that's why they are talking out of both sides of their mouth.
1. they know that they can't come down too hard like they did last time--Modi sircar has shown that they won't bend on this, there will no return to biz-as-usual. They also know that for any normal person, it sounds crazy to involve huriyat at all, now that normal people have started paying attention to the huriyat nonsense thanks to noisemaking by anti-Modi forces.
2. Now they have to explain how come they were fine with the huriyat meetings in the past. Only pakistan can say, "huriyat is genuine rep of kashmiri people bwahahaha." Our fellows can't say it, since every Indian knows that there is a normal elected govt. in J&K, so they will ask, where did these huriyat guys come from?
3. So they are saying, "bwhaat is there? huriyat is not important, pakis meeting them is symbolic only, let them meet, no?" This is a lie because pakistan says clearly they are meeting huriyat because (acc to pakistan) they are sole genuine reps of kashmiri people. Most Indians don't pay attention to what pakees say, so they too may agree with "bwhat is there? what goes of our father?" kind of talk.
4. They are also saying, "see, see, huriyat is not important, but Modi is making them unnecessarily important by stopping the meeting." This is BS, but also kind of right. BS because huriyat is in fact important, because pakistan says it is so, and our panga is with pakistan which can, potentially, nuke us. But it is also kind of right because huriyat guys are just cowardly punks who got into this game because they thought umreeka and bakistan will make them kings. They can't even "fight" an election. Or do enough halla to stop an election.
So, Modi sarkar is, in fact making them important in a way. It is a kind of "gangster" move, as they say in US. Modi sarkar is, in fact, giving them importance, or at least recognizing the importance that pakistan has conferred on them. People won't appreciate it if you bring down the hammer of the Indian Government on small-small punks, but if they are somehow important, and an enemy, then people will be fine with applying the hammer.
I think Modi sarkar's big plan is to cure the kashmiris of their azadi addiction, by removing / neutralizing even small, seemingly insignificant representation of azadi from their world. It is kind of a "tough love" cure of the addiction, which is known to work quite well. Once they lose all hope of azadi which was driving them (if they were never sincere about it, well and good), they will have nothing left, and will turn to the nearest powerful entity, which is yindoo India.
I think shahazad chowdary, who is probably very well versed in glorious Islamic conquests and conversion, recognized the underlying psychological (there's that word again
) process. Muslims specialized in crushing the spirit and hope of conquered nations, who turned en masse to Islam to fill that deep spiritual hopelessness and vacuum. (so, all that "Islam spread due to sufis, not sword" is true enough, except that the sword was needed to first prepare the ground for the sufis to offer a ray of spiritual and material hope after the natives' lives have been reduced to a wasteland) That is why chowdary is beating the alarm drum for bakistan to wake and get tough with the yindoos, and putting out wishful thinking for the cashmeeries to grow a pair and fight for real.
Interesting times, so this is what a yeevil baniya (actually a shudder-baniya) yindoo looks like when he starts playing 3-D chess and grabs the initiative.
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