Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 18 Jun 2016 23:29

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"Diseased spleen defence"

The 'diseased-spleen defence' was a common plea used by the British to get away with the murder of Indians. https://t.co/tE9btdKJM5

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 18 Jun 2016 23:44

Ahh English jurisprudence.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 19 Jun 2016 05:47

http://qz.com/709277/slain-british-mp-j ... tegration/

Batley and Spen is a gathering of typically independent, no-nonsense and proud Yorkshire towns and villages. Our communities have been deeply enhanced by immigration, be it of Irish Catholics across the constituency or of Muslims from Gujarat in India or from Pakistan, principally from Kashmir.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 23 Jun 2016 18:36

Meanwhile, the real opportunities are a-wasting.

Odds on BREXIT:

EU referendum betting odds and predictions

A lot of people look at opinion polls and make predictions. But there is another way: ask people who are prepared to put their money where their mouth is. Indeed, following the pollsters' mistakes in last year's General Election, many are claiming a "cloud of uncertainty" surrounding the results of online and telephone polls. Some people believe that political betting markets can predict elections, relying on the wisdom of the crowd of punters to sort and weigh all the options and assign probabilities to the outcomes when betting. This way of predicting the result has always had Remain in the lead, but Leave's probability has been increasing in recent weeks. Betfair's latest odds for the EU referendum are:

1/12 in favour of remaining in the EU
7/1 in favour of exiting the EU

That's it, the whole thing is just another British scam to bilk the Germans. If the EU had any sense (

) they would hold a poll on
BREJECT and declare their Freedom From Britain for the first time since Norman made the mistake of crossing over to the Land of Thieves.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Jun 2016 19:24

After Brexit what , Scotland exit?

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 23 Jun 2016 19:44

scotland exit
then end of UK
then end of EU
Putin takes over
trump wins
nukes fly
kim jong and mushrat rule the world

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 23 Jun 2016 20:05

Lalmohan wrote:scotland exit
then end of UK
then end of EU
Putin takes over
trump wins
nukes fly
kim jong and mushrat ~~rule the world~~

KendoStix sistahs rule them, remember.

With BREXIT, patriotic, nationalist New Britain will shake off the EU bureaucratic rules that hold back the British rush to become the first Shariah colony west of Turkey. AoA!

NATO will become New Atlantic Taliban Organisation.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Jun 2016 20:11

There is a terro attack in somewhere near Frankfort. One more step towards Erebia.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Jun 2016 20:25

IndraD wrote:After Brexit what , Scotland exit?

Leading to of course to a UNSC P5xit, making way for other more deserving powers!

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 23 Jun 2016 20:30

Lalmohan wrote:scotland exit
then end of UK
then end of EU
Putin takes over
trump wins
nukes fly
kim jong and mushrat rule the world

This is what Brits tells you; It not the case at all. You have no idea about how old Europe loves UK

. UK has played spoiler right from start. They wanted to bring in Turks long ago. They were kicked on ass by french openly. Then they did drama with new- europeans who supported them for sometime. Then they tried to limit immigration........again got kicked. Old Europeans knows this too well. So be assured EU will be stronger.
Infact even if they choose to stay.............David can not blackmail EU during future talks. He has lost this leverage.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Jun 2016 20:34

RajeshA wrote:
IndraD wrote:After Brexit what , Scotland exit?Leading to of course to a UNSC P5xit, making way for other more deserving powers!

Call Crooks Correctly, It's Brexshit.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Jun 2016 20:57

rSingh & RajeshA +1

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 01:45

So what's with this anyway? They are using PAPER BALLOTS in 2016? Don't trust dem eelectronic voting machines, hain? Wonder why - do the Brish1ts or Broos-sells know something we don't?

Also, counting is going to be done at University of Gibraltar

. So all these ballot boxes are going to rowed over across the ~~English~~Pakistani Channel, or do they trust airplanes to carry them? 46 million votes - one box per 200 voters? That's 230,000 boxes!!!!

How much weight is that? How many airplanes? Sure a few are not going to go astray and be replaced with others?

So the counters are all ppl who have been ferried over to Gibraltar for a week?

Whole setup stinks of hanky-panky.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 24 Jun 2016 01:47

^^

UB ji just to let you know vast number of people believe poll is rigged and MI5 is involved, they carried their own ball pen, ink pen etc.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 97011.html
It appears paper ballot are more popular in Europe as such.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB109078591209873125

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 01:51

Hain, UBC News is always 400% accurate: See this. "First Ballot Boxes arriving at U. Gibraltar, stuffed with prefilled votes straight from production line in Shanghai"
Laloo and Jayalalithaa would be proud of this level of scam.

Question: Where are they going to find 300 vote-counters who can count above 1000? Other than Pakis arriving in Oirope?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 01:58

Oooooooh!!!!! Tublelight onlee!

Results will be collected in 382 local authorities, then sent to 12 regional counting centers for announcement of the results by region.
The process will take hours -- and could result in a country leaving the European Union for the first time ever.

46.5million divided by 382 = 121,727.75 votes per locality. They can count that many in a few hours?

Meanwhile, NATO tries to prevent voters reaching the booths

Torrential downpours across southeastern England

It's been a tough day for Britons headed to the polls as torrential rains and thunderstorms overnight caused flash flooding in parts of the capital and southeastern England.
The downpour wreaked havoc on transport networks and caused two polling stations in southwest Londonistan to close and relocate after floodwaters inundated them. Others across the capital opened late due to the weather.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 04:23

Sunder-land votes Leave by 61 to 39%. That must be origin of "Rent-A-Sunder".
Newcastle votes Stay.
Foyle in Northern Ireland: Stay
Scilly Isles off southern England: Stay (that's where The Eagle Landed with Col. Steiner, hain?)

German newspaper BILD used their front page to offer a list of tongue-in-cheek promises to Britons if they voted to stay. These vows included:
To acknowledge the Wembley goal in the 1966 World Cup
To stop making jokes about Prince Charles’s ears.
To voluntarily provide the bad guy for any James Bond movie

That should do it. If they would kindly take back the entire Family of the Haus de Windsor LotusEateren, that would be ever so much better.

But they don't promise that

… we will introduce tea time with buckets at the Ballermann!
… we will immediately turns our clocks back one hour!
… we will reserve the hotel sunloungers for you with our towels in the morning!
… we will introduce an EU directive banning foam on beer!
… Jogi Löw will guard your crown jewels!
… we will all attend the Queen’s 100th birthday!

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Jun 2016 04:36

Leave vote is gaining and may end up giving a serious kick in the a&& for the political elite.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 24 Jun 2016 05:00

Leave currently leads 52% vs 48% for Remain. There are a lot of populous Remain-friendly cities left, but still, if Remain wins and the margin is less that 52-48, UK is still screwed long term because their country is fractured down the middle, and so are both major political parties, with the biggest gainers being the likes of UKIP and BNP. Further, a Leave win will increase tensions between England and Scotland; working class England is predominantly backing Leave, while Scotland wants to stay within EU.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 05:07

SeeEnnEnn:

sense of exasperation among the French. They simply can't understand why Britain would want to leave the European Union, but at the same time there is often a Gallic shrug.
The "Roast Beef" -- as the British are sometimes derisively described here -- have never been committed Europeans anyway, the French complain, more like "semi-detached" about the European project. A recent survey showed that just 41% of French citizens thought Britain should stay in; 25% that it should leave.
The political elite here share the bemusement of the people, but are much more concerned about the implications of a Brexit, with President Hollande warning that it would be irreversible, and other ministers concerned about the risk of 'contagion' if Britain votes "leave" at a time when other European publics also feel that Europe has lost its way.
Among the many football fans strolling through the streets of Paris during Euro 2016, most -- especially the Germans -- want Britain to stay. But a few Northern Ireland supporters told CNN that they were hurrying home to vote "Leave"

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 05:51

10.7% Reporting
Remain:47.3% 1,292,093
Leave: 52.7% 1,438,695

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 05:53

But then: 13.4% Reporting
Remain: 50.7% 1,808,139
Leave: 49.3% 1,755,352

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 06:03

Hmm.. EU vote-fixing is pulling away
17.8% Reporting
Remain: 50.9% 2,513,954
Leave: 49.1% 2,426,615

This is no good.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 06:07

Wow! This is HUGE change. Look at the bookies:
From WSJ:

Sterling Sinks
A victory for Leave in Swansea, in South Wales, helped drive the pound still lower: down below $1.41, off more than 5% from just before the polls closed.
Around 2:30 a.m. in London, more than four hours after the polls had closed, Betfair had made Leave the favorite, with odds of 63%

See the vast difference in my post above, from the odds before the poll.

Jason Douglas
North Warwickshire, an English district seen as a bellwether swing vote, has backed Leave by a margin of 67% to 33%.

Wonder what it is in Brixton aka Paki Paradise.
Londonistan votes Remain: 75% to 25%.

And the lead is narrowing:
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?
22.5% Reporting. Remain 50.3% 3,169,022
Leave: 49.7% 3,137,260
Only 32,000 votes difference...
Oho!
29.6% Reporting. Remain: 49.9%, 4,116,276
Leave: 50.1%, 4,131,897.
Looks serious, hain?

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 24 Jun 2016 06:30

Perrdone fir isking a noob kosthin, but will the final result be declared based on vote share, or based on constituencies? I see "Remain" consistently leading in vote share, yet pollsters are changing predictions saying "Brexit is now the most likely outcome." Why

?? Is it because the declared areas should have (per expectations) delivered bigger wins?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 06:35

Er... with ~30% reporting, Leave is leading # of votes. Maybe bookies have very good data. Since they are not electing delegates, I don't see that # of precincts means anything - it seems to be just a way to distribute the counting and reporting job (and fix the votes of course).

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 24 Jun 2016 06:36

Yes, leave is leading now by vote share, after 31% counted. So is vote share the criterion for victory? I guess so, just saw your edit above.

Leave is beginning to widen its lead margin now....

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 06:39

Look at it this way: Oirope will get Erdoganstan, Greece and Ukbapzistan instead of Poodlestan.

Sudarshanji: Maybe early lead for Remain was due to Londonistan: City of London voted 75-25 to remain. Full of Pakis and Polish ppl apparently. If Leave is still pulling ahead despite that, it may turn into a landslide when the coastal communities come in. I think it is the fisherfolk and farmers that have the biggest peeve against EU. I thought big industrial centers would have as well, but apparently those are Labor Party centers where they like Remain (Oiropean siesta and 3 month paid vacation etc).

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 24 Jun 2016 06:42

There's a distinct vertical split, but more frightening for the UK is the split between Scotland and England. Scotland wants to stay in the EU. Guess who is going to get blamed for forcing a "Leave" decision on the Scots?

OTOH, there's a bright spot for Cameron. He has a political future in an independent Scotland

.

Edit: Yeah, I saw that 75% for Remain in London. Don't know how that would go down with the Scots - how ironic, that London thinks the same way as they do, but the rest of England doesn't!

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 06:54

Scotchstan probably feel that they have better protection in the EU - and can force better autonomy when UK is just one of many EU stans.
Wonder how Her Majesty ElizaBegum feels about seeing her nation become a vassal of the Kingdom of Brussels. Or have the Windsors really been agints of the Krautistanis all along?
So MI-5 may be split between Holding the British End Up and serving the PM. Hilarious all round.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 06:58

Lead widening:
41.9% Reporting. Remain:48.9%, 5,819,095
Leave: 51.1% 6,076,476
That's what - 257K votes lead?

Mike Bird
@Birdyword
Sterling flirting with $1.40 from $1.50 five hours ago. 6.6% drop, astonishing. HSBC suggested it'll do -20%.

Gurus: Why is pound falling if UQ is heading for independence? I would think Oiro should be collapsing?

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 24 Jun 2016 07:02

The Telegraph results seem to be ahead of what Google is showing on its front page:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ays-leadi/

Telegraph says:

47.9% counted
48.5% for Remain
51.5% for Leave

Look at the map in that website. There's a distinct blue/Remain (north) vs. red/Leave (south) split. Not a single Scottish constituency so far has voted to Leave!

malushahi · Post by **malushahi** » 24 Jun 2016 07:07

over 500k lead according to guardian tracker

EU referendum live results — tracker
Remain 48% 7,198,931
Leave 52% 7,731,414

Estimated votes remaining
186 of 382 local authorities still to declare

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 24 Jun 2016 07:09

The link below has live tracker of results as they are announced...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Jun 2016 07:21

165 left to declare: 52 Leave / 48 remain. 502,000 lead. But they say only a small part of London has been declared yet.

member_27991 · Post by **member_27991** » 24 Jun 2016 07:28

My fb status today. Got many Brit friends (all supporting Bremain) so didn't go very rogue with the words

Divide and rule was an officially documented policy of the United Kingdom for its colonies since centuries based on frivolous parameters. Nations and people got divided and still are with much bloodshed so that colony governance becomes easy. It's sad to see the UK today divided exactly into two like a split in the middle on Brexit & Bremain. As a wise man tweeted - will it adopt the same policy for itself now? May be not and pray instead come up with a benevolent solution.
But karma is a .... you know it.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 24 Jun 2016 07:32

^^^That link pointing towards a Congress Mukth Britain. The rich, powerful,affluent pseudo elites voting to remain in EU and the downtrodden, uneducated, jobless, penniless ones want to exit as quickly as possible.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Jun 2016 07:32

Saar log it is just about $2.8t GDP, too much importance from the World, no?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Jun 2016 07:33

Sab mile huye hain ji. cough cough Dono FOR aur AGAINST public ko uloo Bana Rahe hain ji. Cough cough.

malushahi · Post by **malushahi** » 24 Jun 2016 07:36

gbp:usd at 1.35