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don't see how he can come back from this. game 3 where he didn't push in spite of an advantage would come back to haunt him.
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Anand - Carlsen (0-1)
Game: 06
Nov 16, 2013
Location Chennai:
Anand playing Ruy Lopez opening

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. c3 O-O 6. O-O Re8 7. Re1 a6 8. Ba4 b5 9. Bb3 d6 10. Bg5 Be6 11. Nbd2 h6 12. Bh4 Bxb3 13. axb3 Nb8 14. h3 Nbd7 15. Nh2 Qe7 16. Ndf1 Bb6 17. Ne3 Qe6 18. b4 a5 19. bxa5 Bxa5 20. Nhg4 Bb6 21. Bxf6 Nxf6 22. Nxf6+ Qxf6 23. Qg4 Bxe3 24. fxe3 Qe7 25. Rf1 c5 26. Kh2 c4 27. d4 Rxa1 28. Rxa1 Qb7 29. Rd1 Qc6 30. Qf5 exd4 31. Rxd4 Re5 32. Qf3 Qc7 33. Kh1 Qe7 34. Qg4 Kh7 35. Qf4 g6 36. Kh2 Kg7 37. Qf3 Re6 38. Qg3 Rxe4 39. Qxd6 Rxe3 40. Qxe7 Rxe7 41. Rd5 Rb7 42. Rd6 f6 43. h4 Kf7 44. h5 gxh5 45. Rd5 Kg6 46. Kg3 Rb6 47. Rc5 f5 48. Kh4 Re6 49. Rxb5 Re4+ 50. Kh3 Kg5 51. Rb8 h4 52. Rg8+ Kh5 53. Rf8 Rf4 54. Rc8 Rg4 55. Rf8 Rg3+ 56. Kh2 Kg5 57. Rg8+ Kf4 58. Rc8 Ke3 59. Rxc4 f4 60. Ra4 h3 61. gxh3 Rg6 62. c4 f3 63. Ra3+ Ke2 64. b4 f2 65. Ra2+ Kf3 66. Ra3+ Kf4 67. Ra8 Rg1

Overall score after Game6: 4-2 in fav of Carlsen.
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I noticed Magnus took small breaks, perhaps to "chill out". Anand played well in all the games up to the 40th move, after that he starts to make a few weak moves.

This could also be because he is in his mid 40's with reduced concentration stamina (the games lasts for over 5 hours). Perhaps he does not have the fire to win any more. He has bagged all the titles. He also has a daugther for 2 years age.
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Game 07
Anand - Carlsen (0.5-0.5)
Monday Nov 18, 2013
Anand opening with Ruy Lopez

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. Bxc6 dxc6 6. Nbd2 Bg4 7. h3 Bh5 8. Nf1 Nd7 9. Ng3 Bxf3 10. Qxf3 g6 11. Be3 Qe7 12. O-O-O O-O-O 13. Ne2 Rhe8 14. Kb1 b6 15. h4 Kb7 16. h5 Bxe3 17. Qxe3 Nc5 18. hxg6 hxg6 19. g3 a5 20. Rh7 Rh8 21. Rdh1 Rxh7 22. Rxh7 Qf6 23. f4 Rh8 24. Rxh8 Qxh8 25. fxe5 Qxe5 26. Qf3 f5 27. exf5 gxf5 28. c3 Ne6 29. Kc2 Ng5 30. Qf2 Ne6 31. Qf3 Ng5 32. Qf2 Ne6

Overall score after Game 7: Carlsen leading 4.5 to 2.5
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Anybody watch the game? Was Anand any different?
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Just reviewed the replay.

Yes, IMHO this game was better. In the last game I was wondering why he allowed exchange of Bxb3 (good bishop to the lame one of MC) on move 12 if he didn't exchange the knight c6 early on. He allowed MC to castle, pawns to develop and then gave in exchange of a good bishop without much in compensation.

In this game, he corrected it on move 5 keeping the game in balance.
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One win here for Anand will give him lot of confidence, I am going to Chennai tomorrow. .
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Very disappointed with Anand. He had chances, he squandered. And he blundered.
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Carlsen - Anand (0.5-0.5)
Tuesday Nov 19 2013
Chennai
Carlsen opening with Ruy Lopez

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Nxe4 5. Re1 Nd6 6. Nxe5 Be7 7. Bf1 Nxe5 8. Rxe5 O-O 9. d4 Bf6 10. Re1 Re8 11. c3 Rxe1 12. Qxe1 Ne8 13. Bf4 d5 14. Bd3 g6 15. Nd2 Ng7 16. Qe2 c6 17. Re1 Bf5 18. Bxf5 Nxf5 19. Nf3 Ng7 20. Be5 Ne6 21. Bxf6 Qxf6 22. Ne5 Re8 23. Ng4 Qd8 24. Qe5 Ng7 25. Qxe8+ Nxe8 26. Rxe8+ Qxe8 27. Nf6+ Kf8 28. Nxe8 Kxe8 29. f4 f5 30. Kf2 b5 31. b4 Kf7 32. h3 h6 33. h4 h5

Overall score after Game 8: Carlsen leading with 5-3
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The hole gets deeper......
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Seems like Anand is playing for a win by adopting this risky opening. Carlsen passed pawn on b3 will give him enough counter play on the queen side and may even win the game for him. Game 4 and onward Carlsen has just played solid chess.
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Wow lost already. Too risky approach.
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He certainly was not going to beat Carlsen with today's gimmick, this was a sub par approach and poor preparation. Anyway curtains and most likely end of an era.
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Anand - Carlsen (0-1)
Thursday Nov 21, 2013
Anand going for Queen's gambit opening

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8. e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15. g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6 Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28. Nf1 Qe1

Carlsen leads 6-3.
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Dipanker wrote:Seems like Anand is playing for a win by adopting this risky opening. Carlsen passed pawn on b3 will .give him enough counter play on the queen side and may even win the game for him. Game 4 and onward Carlsen has just played solid chess.
Queen's gambit is not risky per say. In general it gives a very dynamic position for white but it is also one of the most played and analyzed opening. Kashyap Rao in particular rip-opened this in and out and must have prep'd MC on those finer things.
The pawn storm on the queen's side was too heavy to counter.
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It is almost certainly the passing of the baton, but hopefully Anand can get a win in the next 3.
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Satya_anveshi wrote:
Dipanker wrote:Seems like Anand is playing for a win by adopting this risky opening. Carlsen passed pawn on b3 will .give him enough counter play on the queen side and may even win the game for him. Game 4 and onward Carlsen has just played solid chess.
Queen's gambit is not risky per say. In general it gives a very dynamic position for white but it is also one of the most played and analyzed opening. Kashyap Rao in particular rip-opened this in and out and must have prep'd MC on those finer things.
The pawn storm on the queen's side was too heavy to counter.


I ment he chose the risky approach of allowing Carlsen the passed pawn on b3 with the scope of so much counterplay for the sake of an all out attack on the king side. It seems to me that his preparation was flawed for this line of play . Yes Queen's Gambit is more suited to slow/strategic play and IMO he sort of violated the very principle in this game, plus he was somewhat of a time pressure which lead to the blunder (again).
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Wow guys.
Yall remind me of how we behaved in the 90s after Tendulkar got out.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings, as the saying goes.
Anand can still mount a magical comeback, as fans, let's not GUBO, but cheer him on and hope that our cheers reach him telepathically.
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Where is Dibu when he is needed?
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What kind of fan base are you guys, hain??? :evil: :evil: Instead of supporting Anand through tough times you are indulging in shalwar yellowing and :(( :(( Its very easy to support someone when they are winning but its much more important to support someone when they are losing.
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^^100% agree with you RB.
Rain or shine a true fan will always support his/her team or player. Most people I know are fair weather fans, and I tell them that they lack character. :)
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huh! It seems curtains doesnt mean there is no support. 6-3 with 3 games left is hard. All of us support, that is why we stuck around even as Oz pulverised TI in 2003 WC and we saw the collapse in the final to the dreary end. It did not mean we did not foresee the close to certain outcome with the early loss of wickets, but we stuck around. We are doing the same here, even though the loss looks very likely, we will support our man, in the hope he can pull back or just be there till the end of the championship.
Dont just write putting yourself as dilli-billi and others as bheegi-billi.
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^^Then what's with folks on this dhaaga going :(( :(( its all over onlee, woe is me :(( :(( :(( , hain??
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ramana wrote:Where is Dibu when he is needed?
Sorry a bit late for this I guess. Anyway here it goes.
Anand will lose onlee :(( :(( :((
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Vishwanathan Anand should be given Bharat Ratna for having been the undisputed world chess champion for the last 5 years and the FIDE champion for the past decade or so. This award will also be a great source of inspiration for all chess players and enthusiasts in India.
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So I am looking at game number 10 and with a knight only on board and equal number of pawns this looks like a draw. Carlsen is fractionally better with queen side pawn majority but with equal number of pawns it is nearly impossible to win these type of position since Anand can create a king side passer for Carlsen queen side and the passed pawn ( if and when they materialize ) can be easily blockaded.
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O.k. so it is starting to get a little bit exciting where some sharp play is required on Anand part to draw this game, Carlsen seems to have definite advantage here.
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OK. Congratulations to Magnus Carlsen for successfully challenging the reigning champion Vishwanathan Anand and becoming 2013 Fide World Champion.

Vishy Anand will remain one of the most loved and talented player India produced in modern times. He will continue to inspire thousands and millions of kids across India and the world. There are many families who named their kids after Anand.

Well played and hope Anand (or his protégé) will challenge MC back in near future and regain the title back for India.
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Yes, Anand is a legend even though he underperformed here. If had retired at peak his case for a BR would have been greater. I don't know if they will consider him now.
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Indian journos at the event seem to be a bunch of assess asking pathetic and irrelevant questions. I wish I could help them re-educate should they accompany me , say, thru a dark alley.
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Carlsen - Anand (0.5-0.5)
Game 10
Friday Nov 22, 2013

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Nd7 4. d4 cxd4 5. Qxd4 a6 6. Bxd7+ Bxd7 7. c4 Nf6 8. Bg5 e6 9. Nc3 Be7 10. O-O Bc6 11. Qd3 O-O 12. Nd4 Rc8 13. b3 Qc7 14. Nxc6 Qxc6 15. Rac1 h6 16. Be3 Nd7 17. Bd4 Rfd8 18. h3 Qc7 19. Rfd1 Qa5 20. Qd2 Kf8 21. Qb2 Kg8 22. a4 Qh5 23. Ne2 Bf6 24. Rc3 Bxd4 25. Rxd4 Qe5 26. Qd2 Nf6 27. Re3 Rd7 28. a5 Qg5 29. e5 Ne8 30. exd6 Rc6 31. f4 Qd8 32. Red3 Rcxd6 33. Rxd6 Rxd6 34. Rxd6 Qxd6 35. Qxd6 Nxd6 36. Kf2 Kf8 37. Ke3 Ke7 38. Kd4 Kd7 39. Kc5 Kc7 40. Nc3 Nf5 41. Ne4 Ne3 42. g3 f5 43. Nd6 g5 44. Ne8+ Kd7 45. Nf6+ Ke7 46. Ng8+ Kf8 47. Nxh6 gxf4 48. gxf4 Kg7 49. Nxf5+ exf5 50. Kb6 Ng2 51. Kxb7 Nxf4 52. Kxa6 Ne6 53. Kb6 f4 54. a6 f3 55. a7 f2 56. a8=Q f1=Q 57. Qd5 Qe1 58. Qd6 Qe3+ 59. Ka6 Nc5+ 60. Kb5 Nxb3 61. Qc7+ Kh6 62. Qb6+ Qxb6+ 63. Kxb6 Kh5 64. h4 Kxh4 65. c5 Nxc5

Carlsen wins the championship (6.5-3.5)
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Satya_anveshi wrote:OK. Congratulations to Magnus Carlsen for successfully challenging the reigning champion Vishwanathan Anand and becoming 2013 Fide World Champion.

Vishy Anand will remain one of the most loved and talented player India produced in modern times. He will continue to inspire thousands and millions of kids across India and the world. There are many families who named their kids after Anand.

Well played and hope Anand (or his protégé) will challenge MC back in near future and regain the title back for India.
Agreed. Anand is unquestionably the greatest Indian chaturanga player. Just an anecdote. When he was young he was living in Thane near Mumbai with a grand master for his training. He lived with them for about 2 to 3years. He, inspite of the rapid strides moving up in the world rankings with super support from this grand master, did say some unsavory things about his guru. His guru was shocked to say the least. It's a pity that he said what he said but it was in poor taste and not in keeping with the guru-shishya parampara.

Hopefully he redeems himself in the eyes of his teacher.
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Compared to all the BR given, Anand deserves it as much anybody else or more. In his in form days he was certainly among the all time great in the chess world past or present, IMO easily top 10 player of all time.
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Dipanker wrote:Compared to all the BR given, Anand deserves it as much anybody else or more. In his in form days he was certainly among the all time great in the chess world past or present, IMO easily top 10 player of all time.
Saar,
I think BR is a joke like Nobull peace prize. Roberto gets a BR?!! :rotfl: It should be scrapped. And if there has to be a prestigious civilian award then don't allow the power to bestow it on politicians. Setup some kind of board of experts to decide who should get the award. But then, given how things work, that board will be filled with political appointees. So frankly, its useless.

At least, sportsmen, actors(and such celebrities) and politicians should not be considered for BR. Otherwise, every time only these guys will get it and mostly for arguable efforts.

It seems to me that if Anand had won this tournament, then his reputation would have reached a completely different level in the world and India. He would have definitely hailed as a legend by one and all. He is still a legend, but the respect that he would have got if he won this tournament would have been very different. And yes, if had won this one, he would definitely have been a contention for BR.

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panduranghari wrote: Agreed. Anand is unquestionably the greatest Indian chaturanga player. Just an anecdote. When he was young he was living in Thane near Mumbai with a grand master for his training. He lived with them for about 2 to 3years. He, inspite of the rapid strides moving up in the world rankings with super support from this grand master, did say some unsavory things about his guru. His guru was shocked to say the least. It's a pity that he said what he said but it was in poor taste and not in keeping with the guru-shishya parampara.

Hopefully he redeems himself in the eyes of his teacher.
Saar,
could you expand on this. Or if its inappropriate, then please point in the right direction where I can learn more on this.
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Carlsen is like Tendulkar of old or anakin skywalker. Nobody including himself knows the true extent of his developing powers.
they say he hasn't even focussed on new angles in the opening 25 moves yet.
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He is not that good. Of late VA started making mistakes. He will come back in the next round. MC managed to win. KRAMNIK missed the bus this time. We shall see next round with VA and others trying hard.
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panduranghari wrote: Agreed. Anand is unquestionably the greatest Indian chaturanga player. Just an anecdote. When he was young he was living in Thane near Mumbai with a grand master for his training. He lived with them for about 2 to 3years. He, inspite of the rapid strides moving up in the world rankings with super support from this grand master, did say some unsavory things about his guru. His guru was shocked to say the least. It's a pity that he said what he said but it was in poor taste and not in keeping with the guru-shishya parampara.

Hopefully he redeems himself in the eyes of his teacher.
can't be true as vishy was India's first GM.

anyway, the king lost but long live the king !
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From the first two lost games I can say it is more lack of focus on the part of VA than any greatness on the part of MC. MC admitted such on meeting the press where he said that VA started "drifting". I am not sure if VA has it in him to make a comeback at this age.
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Rahul M wrote:
panduranghari wrote: Agreed. Anand is unquestionably the greatest Indian chaturanga player. Just an anecdote. When he was young he was living in Thane near Mumbai with a grand master for his training. He lived with them for about 2 to 3years. He, inspite of the rapid strides moving up in the world rankings with super support from this grand master, did say some unsavory things about his guru. His guru was shocked to say the least. It's a pity that he said what he said but it was in poor taste and not in keeping with the guru-shishya parampara.

Hopefully he redeems himself in the eyes of his teacher.
can't be true as vishy was India's first GM.

anyway, the king lost but long live the king !
I still hope the king comes back next year with better preparation
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Rahul M wrote:
panduranghari wrote: Agreed. Anand is unquestionably the greatest Indian chaturanga player. Just an anecdote. When he was young he was living in Thane near Mumbai with a grand master for his training. He lived with them for about 2 to 3years. He, inspite of the rapid strides moving up in the world rankings with super support from this grand master, did say some unsavory things about his guru. His guru was shocked to say the least. It's a pity that he said what he said but it was in poor taste and not in keeping with the guru-shishya parampara.

Hopefully he redeems himself in the eyes of his teacher.
can't be true as vishy was India's first GM.

anyway, the king lost but long live the king !
I know it because the aforementioned guru is my SHQ's maternal uncle. I do not wish to say anymore.
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