AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

[Muppalla]

Devesh garu,

What CBN is doing (willingly or deliberately) is going to be help the bashmasura theory. BJP wants INC to commit this suicide asap and they would love to see that before Modi's HYD visit.

AP state is as good as dead and it cannot be resurrected. The so called high moneyed "self appointed chanikyans" such as Lagadapati, Kavuri etc thought they can achieve using money and being part of INC. If they are any leaders they should have quit congress for not saying "we will not give T". They just clinged on and on and they are selling lemon that they are saviors of united-AP interests.

Just start thinking T-TDP == Future BJP. It can be even put on a super-fast track.

[devesh]

Muppalla garu,

BJP's performance in Telangana has been highly inconsistent. as I said before, in the short term, BJP might start developing pockets of strength, but nothing more. It might take until the later part of this decade for some level of "strength" to show. until then, INC is likely to dominate. TRS is just a puppet. it has no real power. they will sing to whatever tune the Congres is playing.

[Ashok Sarraff]

Muppalla garu,

BJP's performance in Telangana has been highly inconsistent. as I said before, in the short term, BJP might start developing pockets of strength, but nothing more. It might take until the later part of this decade for some level of "strength" to show. until then, INC is likely to dominate. TRS is just a puppet. it has no real power. they will sing to whatever tune the Congres is playing.

So the Congress scheme is to bag Telangana (Hyderabad state?) through TRS by taking credit for creating the state and bagging the rest of the state via Jagan? If so, games on for UPA3?

[devesh]

here is something that might indicate that all is not that bad for TDP:

http://newindianexpress.com/thesundayst ... 705134.ece

The TDP’s stellar performance in the first phase of the panchayat polls has cast a shadow on the Jagan supernova. The YSRC had widely been perceived as the frontrunner in the upcoming Assembly and Lok Sabha polls.

N Chandrababu Naidu seems to have recharged his charisma to such an extent that even TRS has lost ground on its home turf. The Congress may have reason to cheer since it has so far managed to be in second lead.

At a time when political pundits had written off TDP, the party seems to be on the comeback trail, bagging 2,301 seats out of the 8,291 panchayats for which polls were held on July 23. The Congress and YSR Congress came in second and third with 2,291 and 1,578 seats, respectively. The TRS fared badly. The party, which has been clamouring the most for a separate state, managed to obtain just 529 seats in the very region it is demanding statehood for.

According to YSR Congress sources, despite the party first family’s regular padayatras, they seem to have lost the grassroots connect. Naidu’s months-long padayatra, on the other hand, seems to be paying rich dividends. The elections have worked like a tonic for TDP workers, whose morale had hit rock bottom after the party failed to win even one of the 55 Assembly byelections held after 2009. Said Naidu, “People are disgusted with the Congress and have realised that both YSRC and TRS are just Congress stooges. We are the alternative.”

This is one aspect that Naidu did not forget to drill into the minds of the people during his padayatra—that YSRC and TRS will ultimately join Congress. With neither party doing much to dispel the notion, it worked in TDP’s favour.

In 2009, when Naidu was hoping to win Assembly elections, actor-turned-politician Chiranjeevi played spoilsport by dividing the opposition vote and helping Congress win. The events that followed—death of Y S Rajasekhara Reddy, announcement of Telangana and then backtracking by UPA blaming it on TDP and the breaking away of Jagan from Congress—contributed to TDP’s downfall.

But much has changed since. It is now more than a year since Jagan has been in jail and party leaders are finding it hard to keep engaged with people. YSRC, which thrives on the emotional connect people had with YSR, lacks the organisational structure to convert support into votes. “The results are a clear indication that the influence of Jagan is waning. Post-2009, the TDP lost heavily to Jagan in bypolls in Coastal Andhra because at the time, sympathy played a major role,” argued former TDP MP K Ramamohan Rao.

TRS workers admitted TDP’s resurgence. “The TDP has a cadre network of backward castes in Telangana,” a TRS leader said.

so there might yet be some hope for TDP...

[RamaY]

I think we are giving too much importance (more than required) to AP 42 seats.

IG won 41/42 seats in 1977 elections but lost power to Janata party. 2014 cannot be much different.

[Kakkaji]

Folks:

I know nearly nothing about Andhra Pradesh and its different regions. So, I am really a neutral observer on this issue

If Congress divides Rayalseema, without any demand for it, how would Rayalseema people take it? Doesn't it create conditions for future agitations in the Rayalseema region for "reunification of Rayalseema"?

Also, IIRC the last time UP, MP, and Bihar were divided under ABV Govt, the resolutions for division had to be passed first in the state Vidhan Sabhas, and then in the Lok Sabha. I don't think theer are enough votes in the Lok Sabha or the Vidhan Sabha to pass resolution for division of AP. So, how can the GOI (Sonia Gandhi) announce it and carry it out without the votes being there?

I think it is a storm in a teacup that will fill next 25 pages on this thread.

[krishnan]

what about hyderabad ??? they want to rename telengana as hyd , that surely is not going to go down well with present hyd

[Kakkaji]

I see no harm in CBN going to the election on an anti-BJP and pro Third Front platform.

After the elections, a third front Govt. will only be formed with outside support from the Congress. In that scenario, it will be political suicide for CBN to be part of a Govt that is supported by teh Congress and YSRC. His voters in AP do not care about the BJP, but they do care about the Congress. If he is on the same side as Congress then their is no reason for his voters in AP to vote for him. This was exactly the reason he gave the last time when he broke away from the UF and supported the NDA Govt at the Center. he was smart enough to extract a lot of concessions for AP from ABV on the basis of this support, but he was not smart enough to realize the rural areas in AP were upset with him.

The same story may repeat again this time.

JMHO

[Kakkaji]

The only flaw I see in CBN's election strategy is that he seems to think, like NiKu, that his anti-NaMo anti-BJP stance will bring him Muslim votes. That will only work if his candidates were in direct contest with BJP candidates. Since that is not the situation in AP, I doubt he will get any additional Muslim votes by being so stridently anti-NaMo. He needs to tone it down and not burn his bridges completely with a NaMo-led BJP.

[Supratik]

TDP and TRS will be critical to NDA3. So AP is important.

[devesh]

TRS will not join BJP. if they even contemplate, INC knows how to neuter them. TRS is a puppet. I hope everybody realizes that.

below is a ghost from the past - srikrishna panel report:
http://www.siasat.com/english/news/deci ... ent-200147

Muslims in Hyderabad, who constitute 41% of the population in the metropolis, do not want a separate state of Telangana to be created, the Srikrishna Panel said noting that they would feel more secure in the larger state of united Andhra Pradesh.

However, their community members in rest of the Telangana region are in favour of carving out a separate state from Andhra Pradesh as they feel they have remained backward in a united state and will have more access to educational and employment if a separate state is formed.

"Expectation of an increase in reservation benefits (to 12%) in the new state is one of the major reasons for their demand for separation," the Committee said in its 461-page report. (Read: Full text: Read Srikrishna Committee report )

Currently, Muslims in Andhra Pradesh receive four per cent reservation benefits under the OBC (E) category.

In united Andhra Pradesh, Muslims have grievances like lack of jobs, non-implementation of Urdu as the second language, lack of Urdu teachers and funds for Urdu medium schools and absence of scholarships for minorities and the loss of waqf lands, the report said.

It said Muslims have told the panel that there is no communal or cultural divide between Hindus and Muslims in Telangana and they can live in harmony in a separate state.

Contrary to public perception, the report noted that according to Muslims, Telangana will not be unsafe for minorities. (Read: Srikrishna committee report 'useless': Andhra BJP)

"During field visits, however, a more nuanced viewpoint came out with people being unsure of the benefits of a separate state and articulating some apprehensions about their security in a separate Telangana," the committee said.

Muslims in Rayalaseema and coastal Andhra regions favour a united state. They believe that they should live together and share the resources of the state equitably, the report said. (Read: Only Telangana with Hyderabad as its capital will be acceptable: TRS )

Talking about Muslims in Hyderabad, the report says most Muslims of the city identify with the AIMIM as their political representative. They identify primarily with the city and not necessarily with the region of Telangana.

"Muslims (in Hyderabad) would feel more secure in the larger state," it said in its analysis.

"Most of them reside in the old city and do not speak Telugu. Residents of Muslims mohallas were found to be the most disengaged from the Telangana issue.

"However, the concentration of Muslims in Hyderabad and their homogeneous distribution in Rayalaseema districts can explain their preferences which are mainly articulated by political groups and in Hyderabad city by the party," the panel said.

The report said the AIMIM prefers united Andhra to Telangana state. In case of an inevitable separation, a Rayala-Telangana state is preferred with Hyderabad as the capital.

In a Telangana state, the Muslim population would account for about 12.5%, but when Hyderabad is excluded, this goes down to 8.4%.

In a Rayala-Telangana state, Muslims would remain with similar strength at about 12.5%, whereas in United Andhra, Muslims are just above 9%.

"A separate Telangana state could expose them to communally sensitive Hyderabad and Hindu-biased rural population of the region," the report said.

In its analysis on opinions of Christians in the Telangana region, the report says Christians from Telangana have demanded a separate state, arguing that most development benefits in the state have gone to coastal Andhra.

"Reservations are the issue here as coastal Andhra Christians (mostly Malas) have done better than Telangana and Rayalaseema Christians," the report said.

Christians in non-Telangana regions want Andhra Pradesh to remain united.

"They contend that they have all contributed to the progress in Hyderabad by investing a large section of their manpower (labour force) and capital to an extent. They feel that the culture and customs in the two regions are similar," the report said. (Read: Read Telangana report with 'open mind' : Chidambaram tells leaders )

[Dasari]

The die has been cast. The state split is irreversible, and it appears that KKR submitted his conditional resignation to Sonia. Latest TOI report states that Hyderabad will be an UT and joint capital for 5 years. It is also reported today that Mulayalam publicly came against the State split. Therefore Congress needs BJP support to pass the resolution in Parliament. This means that congress will drop Rayala Telangana plan, and stick to T with 10 districts.

It is time for seemaandhra leaders to come out of denial, and figure out what SA can get in return. Otherwise, this is like resetting the clock back to Nov 1, 1953 with 60 years of development lost.

[SwamyG]

Some of these regional parties are like hyenas now, they see two lions fighting and now see a chance that one lion will get killed, the other so weakened that it cannot rule. One of the hyenas will want to be the leader. But hyenas will remain hyenas, they might end up tearing each other. The jungle will have no leader, and would be preyed more by outside animals. If the hyenas were wise, they would side one lion, but alas that is not their nature - they wait for the kill.

[ShyamSP]

Kakkaji,

I'm addressing your posts in one post.

Folks:

I know nearly nothing about Andhra Pradesh and its different regions. So, I am really a neutral observer on this issue

If Congress divides Rayalseema, without any demand for it, how would Rayalseema people take it? Doesn't it create conditions for future agitations in the Rayalseema region for "reunification of Rayalseema"?

Also, IIRC the last time UP, MP, and Bihar were divided under ABV Govt, the resolutions for division had to be passed first in the state Vidhan Sabhas, and then in the Lok Sabha. I don't think theer are enough votes in the Lok Sabha or the Vidhan Sabha to pass resolution for division of AP. So, how can the GOI (Sonia Gandhi) announce it and carry it out without the votes being there?

I think it is a storm in a teacup that will fill next 25 pages on this thread.

Except couple of weak leaders, vocal majority in Rayalaseema supports United AP. As sample, Seperate Rayala Seema leader says noway. Another leader resigned and said will fight against Congress. One leader says people should kick any dilly-dallying leaders to send them to Delhi or Hyderabad to live. One leader says hell with Sonia, we'll shut all Central government offices and services. These are opinions from leaders who are straight-shooters.

As for passing resolution in Assembly, because of that only nothing happened after 12/2009 announcement as most non-Telanagana MLAs resigned from Assembly. If Center have to form state, they have to do so with majority opposing it.

I see no harm in CBN going to the election on an anti-BJP and pro Third Front platform.

After the elections, a third front Govt. will only be formed with outside support from the Congress. In that scenario, it will be political suicide for CBN to be part of a Govt that is supported by teh Congress and YSRC. His voters in AP do not care about the BJP, but they do care about the Congress. If he is on the same side as Congress then their is no reason for his voters in AP to vote for him. This was exactly the reason he gave the last time when he broke away from the UF and supported the NDA Govt at the Center. he was smart enough to extract a lot of concessions for AP from ABV on the basis of this support, but he was not smart enough to realize the rural areas in AP were upset with him.

The same story may repeat again this time.

JMHO

TDP is very few of anti-Congress parties. So it is reason why they are going extra length by creating third parties to destroy it. If push comes to shove, TDP will support NDA from outside just like last time. You have to see TDP not as positive for NDA but negative for Congress (TDP gain is Congress loss)

The only flaw I see in CBN's election strategy is that he seems to think, like NiKu, that his anti-NaMo anti-BJP stance will bring him Muslim votes. That will only work if his candidates were in direct contest with BJP candidates. Since that is not the situation in AP, I doubt he will get any additional Muslim votes by being so stridently anti-NaMo. He needs to tone it down and not burn his bridges completely with a NaMo-led BJP.

His anti-Namo stance is NOTHING to do with Muslims as they are partial voters for TDP. His stance mostly due to SC Christians.
By causing loss to Congress, he is indirectly helping NDA anyway.

[devesh]

well...I suppose we can justify anything with "helping NDA, anyway"..eh?!

I don't think the TDP is desperate enough to support INC. but we never know. stranger things have happened. If they don't put up a good performance in 2014, even stranger things might happen. let's wait and see.

talks will be on. and TDP will face a choice. but all depends on how well they do. if they don't get 115+ seats in the AP Vidhan Sabha, it might be game over.

[Kakkaji]

I ma thinking that we need a new thread on AP politics and runup to 2014. If there is a desire for it we can start it.

Good idea!

[Muppalla]

The die has been cast. The state split is irreversible, and it appears that KKR submitted his conditional resignation to Sonia. Latest TOI report states that Hyderabad will be an UT and joint capital for 5 years. It is also reported today that Mulayalam publicly came against the State split. Therefore Congress needs BJP support to pass the resolution in Parliament. This means that congress will drop Rayala Telangana plan, and stick to T with 10 districts.

It is time for seemaandhra leaders to come out of denial, and figure out what SA can get in return. Otherwise, this is like resetting the clock back to Nov 1, 1953 with 60 years of development lost.

T will be formed with Hyd as capital and folks need to adjust to that reality. This reality in summary is because of - (1) people lost their role (culture and warrior-ship) and were focussed on just making another crore rupees, finding a way to live in US and what not. A generation has grown without even knowing rest of India in terms of politics or geography. (2) The congress leaders are too confident that they can prevail upon INC dynasty due to their large wealth/clout and they are over confident of overcoming the T-sentimental tide.

The other AP has to come to grips with a state and a new capital. First and foremost the leaders have to show some real spine and stop other bullshit such as Rayala-T, Hyderabad State or Hyd as a permanent UT etc.

Water wars, flight of investments, attacks on folks due to identities are all just myths. There will be no real change to life.

This whole division is about power and an overwhelming power with money in a state called AP is challenging the status quo power equations. The reason for a PVNR jhappad, YSR domination over Gandhi-dynasty and a CBN-kingmaker role of non-INC governments for over a decade are all reasons for this division. It is being divided to avoid the future with such jhapads to Dilli-billi. That's all it is and nothing else. Everything else (cruel-AP coast, EJism, T-discrimination etc) are straw-man arguments.

[devesh]

on a side note, this division will bring out the true clout of EJ's on the coast. their numbers so far have been cloaked primarily b/c the 4 crore population of Telangana has a much smaller share of EJ's. but in a separate Andhra State, their real power over the political calculations will receive more spotlight. makes it less easier for politicians to escape the public glare. long, long overdue. the culprits who opened up that section to the EJ's need to answer. I am looking forward to it.

[devesh]

also, division of AP is probably not just about AP. in 2014, INC is likely to sweep Telangana with this move.

and regardless of which shape T ultimately takes (Hyd/RT/T), my contention is that INC will still get 10-15 LS seats from the Kosta side in 2014.

BJP's time, at least on the T-side will come. but it should be prepared for a do-or-die fight with INC and any other demons thrown by them.

[devesh]

http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/in ... -1.1214336
India: Andhra Pradesh gripped with uncertainty, inertia

State minister P Balaraju told reporters that the letter had elaborated the consequences of dividing the state and the harm it will cause to the people and the party. “But our resignation will be only from our posts [as ministers] and not from the party”, he added.

so, it's only a token "resistance" to tell their voters that they did their "best". seems like some form of bifurcation is inevitable now.

[Kakkaji]

The NDA Govt and UPA-1 were under the thumb of CBN and YSR respectively. Therefore, it is in the interest of both Congress and BJP to divide AP so that no CBN or YSR can exercise remote control over Delhi in future.

JMHO

[devesh]

The NDA Govt and UPA-1 were under the thumb of CBN and YSR respectively. Therefore, it is in the interest of both Congress and BJP to divide AP so that no CBN or YSR can exercise remote control over Delhi in future.

JMHO

NDA wasn't really under CBN's thumb. if you recall, Naidu's 29 LS members were a good show, but BJP had 183. Naidu was always kept in good graces, but never had the BJP/NDA under his thumb. Same cannot be said of YSR. He commanded 29 LS members out of a total of 136 for INC. that gave him considerably more strength right within the INC structure.

[Muppalla]

Okay folks here are the results of the villages from AP based on results at the end of second phase elections. Remember there are about 7000 more villages to go. Another important factor is that this is purely rural electorate. About 30% of the total electorate is Urban in AP.

[Muppalla]

The NDA Govt and UPA-1 were under the thumb of CBN and YSR respectively. Therefore, it is in the interest of both Congress and BJP to divide AP so that no CBN or YSR can exercise remote control over Delhi in future.

JMHO

True.

After the death of Rajiv Gandhi, PVNR has the entire AP INC in his real support. Later CBN is the king maker of Deva Gowda and IKGujral government. CBN is instrumental in stopping G.K.Moopnar from becoming PM and he preferred IKG instead with a term called as "pure non-congress man". Later in NDA CBN is major partner. UPA-1 has YSR all over it with AP-INC == YSR. This is a total of 16 years (1992 - 2009)

This is where the plotters see that this bloody state has to be fixed and otherwise Dilli-billi will never have breathing space. Telangana came very handy for everything and later YSR's death is a good collateral for both fix-AP and also fix-INC models. My personal belief is INC will be dead and this is truly a bashmasura moment. I just will not believe in these strawman theories of EJism, wealth loot and other theories.

This is a pan-India (dilli-billi Vs strong power from periphery) power maneuvering. Deeper analysis will tell how the current hate-Modi and hate-Gujarat because it is destroying the status-quo, this is similar. All that EJ stuff and other stuff are defeatable and are bringing these strawmen who are siding with this split.

[devesh]

^^^
so, INC will most certainly sweep Telangana if T is given, as per above results. wouldn't be surprised if all 17 go to Congress in 2014.

[Muppalla]

^^^
so, INC will most certainly sweep Telangana if T is given, as per above results. wouldn't be surprised if all 17 go to Congress in 2014.

Here is my post:

Telengana has been given the go-ahead by Sonia.

In the long run it will just delete INC from India(if it survives the onslaught) but in the short run this will help in getting UPA-3.

Forgetting all the rhona-dhona and reasons, this is the best decision for UPA-3 to be back. Here are the reasons:

(1) First by giving Telangana they wiped out Congress from Andhra and Rayalaseema regions of AP
(2) They will align with MIM and TRS to sweep Telangana (mostly a merger with TRS on the cards)
(3) TDP is wiped out as it is playing both sides (irrespective of its revival)
(4) INC has smartly asked Jagan to be 100% on the anti-Telangana side. It was Jagan's MLAs who resigned enmasse in the latest round
(5) Jagan will win Andhra+Rayalaseema on an anti-T state wave. No EJ-VJ bs and it is pure sentiment and emotion
(6) Now if Congress using the 17 seats of T pulls the over all tally to 140 at national level, Jagan with 25 seats will be part of UPA-3

In summary we can keep discussion and abusing wealth of AP, elites of Andhras, EJ ism, abuse the T people as some dumbos and drunkards but the state was raped using the emotions on both sides. This is a replica of Robert Clive's rule. APites are in a blackhole that they are not even in suitable mindset to think about nation. This is the greatest achievement of UPA rule.

This the plan. However, it cannot go as scripted is my take

[devesh]

Muppalla garu, you overestimate certain things and underestimate others. but then again, you'd probably say the same thing about me.

[ramana]

Folks, In order to provide focus in the other threads am starting this thread. Please no polemics and lets show we are above that at least in this thread. Will transfer the related posts since two weeks from the States elections thread. Lets make lemonade from the lemon.

[RamaY]

Looks like TRS and BJP are trying to force a original t-state demand. It could be a political strategy but I hope it will work and t-state is formed with just 10 districts and Hyd as capital.

As a Hindu I hope newly formed T-state moves the capital from Hyd to Warangal so the history and culture is rebuilt. Hyd can continue to be the tech/economic base for Telangana. Something similar to US state capitals.

On Andra side I hope they will keep Andhra Pradesh state and build a new capital with package money somewhere in Rayalaseema/costa border. It would be nice if they set aside 20-30k crore to build new thermal/renewable power centers so new state has enough power develop industry.

Vizag, Vijayawada can continue to be the tech and trade centers.

[SaiK]

what is the larger aam feel % looks like? telangana vs united AP?

[RamaY]

^ that we will never know.

But my gut feel is at least 20% Telangana people don't mind an united Andhra and at least 5% Andhra people do not mind a Telangana state.

I, being a Andhra person, want a unified state with a new capital built in Orugallu or Bhadrachalam. Sometimes I wish I have enough money to buy all these guys to make some of these changes I want.

[SaiK]

the amount of investments gone into hyderabad from sci&tech to infrastructure.. it must be a joke in shifting capital just like that.. wondering if two states can share the same city.. many massan cities are like that.. with a state line divided.

btw, i may be wrong in this line of thought.. it is good to establish a capital, and then move to another smaller city. that gives an oppty to that city to grow.

[RamaY]

Hyd is a tech central with all those defense labs and it parks.

It would be nice if they take away the political/admin business to a new city so another city is developed. That will separate development from politics

Second objective is to separate the nizam history from the independent India history.

[ShyamSP]

Mulayam asks correctly what is reason to divide Telangana?

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Mulayam kudos to Kiran: Says division is dangerous
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/BrowseAr ... tId=117750
Bangaluru, July 28: Samajwadi Party supremo Mulayam Singh Yadav clearly expressed himself against division of the states. He said the country wound be in as much danger as it would be made into as many pieces.

Mulayam touring Karnataka spoke to the media here.

Referring to the creation of Chattisgarh, Uttarakhand and Jharkhand, he questioned about the fate of these states. He said good governance was possible because UP was united. “Divide the state if you can and see what would happen to the country” he said. Mulayam also congratulated the AP Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy for stoutly opposing the Congress High Command.

[Bade]

I have not followed this issue much, but I cannot find a good reason to divide up states.

OTOH, it would be better to make Union Territories of all major cities and release them from the clutches of parochial politics by the respective state governments. It might even help in improving the city infrastructure.

[Yagnasri]

They need to take opinion of the State Assembly. With CM threatening to resign that process is very difficult to be completed in near future. In the meanwhile other division demands will also be boiling hot. I do not know why INC raising this issue now. They want to divert attention of AP people on Misgovernence? Create more division demands across the nation so that their misrule is not discussed? Divide Kuch and Sowrastra from Gujrath may be next step? If they divide AP with just Telangana also they may win 14 seats in Telangana. MIN 1 and BJP may get 2 at least. CBN and Jagan Criminal gang will be fighting for remaining 25 with INC getting decimated there. Present central Cabinet ministers like Kavuri Sambasiva Rao and Purandhareswari will also end up losing their seats. Turncoats like Chirangivi will be afraid to go public and do some election canvassing. Very uncomfortable questions will be asked to every one who does not resign to their posts. Will INC take a decision which results in the State CM and many central ministers resigning and the state governament falling?

INC will be reduced from 33 to 14 seats. Minus 19/20 seats is great for the nation. Recovery for INC is difficult to make for at least 10 years. If BJP seriously try they may win more than 2 and Modi will be a factor in AP also. In any event INC losses in AP are great news. But Jagan Criminal gang also should not win the rest of AP. CBN has to manage that to survive.

In the end I am sure that INC is looking at lose lose situation in respect of their present result of 33 MP seats. They are aready in the process of creating a Kapu vote band with Chiranjivi and trying to manage 2014 elections with their money power and at present their are on par with CBN. There is no overwhelming need for this step. Somehow Diggi Raja seem to have creating an idea that Division of AP is good for INC. Like other ideas of his this one also end up hurting INC.

Termite queen may regreat her decision in 2014. But of course INC may even not divide AP and this is all a big rubbish game they regularly play to keep us not questioning them on corruption and misrule.

[Yagnasri]

I have not followed this issue much, but I cannot find a good reason to divide up states.

OTOH, it would be better to make Union Territories of all major cities and release them from the clutches of parochial politics by the respective state governments. It might even help in improving the city infrastructure.

You really think MMS is better than sau Modi or even KKR sir?

[Bade]

I am less concerned about the politicians, but my experiences of living in various parts of India has moulded my opinion as far as regional politics is concerned.

[Yagnasri]

That is true then - As for as Union Government is concerned their systems and procedures and corruption levels - at Babu level- are far far better than a normal average state government. But revinue from the major cities are must for States. We can not deny them. There is also no intensive to make Cities big if they are all going to be under Delhi. So no one will agree to this sir.

[Lilo]

Somehow Diggi Raja seem to have creating an idea that Division of AP is good for INC. Like other ideas of his this one also end up hurting INC.

Termite queen may regreat her decision in 2014. But of course INC may even not divide AP and this is all a big rubbish game they regularly play to keep us not questioning them on corruption and misrule.

That credit should go to M.K Narayanan, methinks.