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That is the best response, after exposing CGH cabale
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Getting stuck in the negatives (and how to get unstuck) | Alison Ledgerwood | TEDxUCDavis


interesting talk ... just understand the impact of negative news on people's mind. It is stuck. No wonder Pappu and his CON media like Hindu try all lies on Modi (Rafale, Jobs etc). Once people get the bad news, it is hard to get it out of their system
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vijayk wrote:...

Getting stuck in the negatives (and how to get unstuck) | Alison Ledgerwood | TEDxUCDavis


interesting talk ... just understand the impact of bad news on people's mind. It is stuck. No wonder Pappu and his CON media like Hindu try all lies on Modi (Rafale, Jobs etc). Once people get the bad news, it is hard to get it out of their system
Nice. However - I was with her totally, until the end, when she says to forgive, or to leave an extra large tip to a nasty waitress. That part doesn't work, and is basically a milder version of the Prithviraj syndrome. Rewarding bad behavior, with the expectation that the other person will "see the light" and reform themselves, is a dangerous venture. Many people, including certain western neighbors, see it as validation of their behavior.

Stop dwelling on the negatives, for your own good and for your own health, but don't expect to reform anybody by forgiving them or rewarding them unexpectedly. That will backfire.
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I feel this is the same mentality the Vijaynagar kingdom had before the battle of Talikota, you have the money and economy so you think bribes can defeat radical Islam. It is just showing weakness which invites more trouble. They think geography which has protected soo far will help them. East Asia, Europe benefited from The fact that Islamic anger has mostly been targeted at India mainly due our weakness and acceptance which is still widely on display. It will move to the place which shows weakness and acceptance.

Kerala , Bengal prepartition Punjab, Delhi and much of India are good examples the more it is accepted, the more it acts as an incubator to finally consume the entire land.
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vijayk wrote:

Getting stuck in the negatives (and how to get unstuck) | Alison Ledgerwood | TEDxUCDavis


interesting talk ... just understand the impact of negative news on people's mind. It is stuck. No wonder Pappu and his CON media like Hindu try all lies on Modi (Rafale, Jobs etc). Once people get the bad news, it is hard to get it out of their system
This is a good explanation for why consistent bad-mouthing of an incumbent government yields political dividends! Happened in TamilNadu. Negative news tends to stick longer, deeper & propagate faster, even if its false. No amount of "positive news" can offset it. The propagandists know that this works.

Its also why Modi sarkar, in addition to spreading positivity, should remind the misdeeds of the opposition & the grotesque conditions our country was under, while C-system, DMK et al were ruling. Moral high-horses don't work. What's good at a personal level isn't good as public policy.
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Prem Kumar wrote: This is a good explanation for why consistent bad-mouthing of an incumbent government yields political dividends! Happened in TamilNadu. Negative news tends to stick longer, deeper & propagate faster, even if its false. No amount of "positive news" can offset it. The propagandists know that this works.

Its also why Modi sarkar, in addition to spreading positivity, should remind the misdeeds of the opposition & the grotesque conditions our country was under, while C-system, DMK et al were ruling. Moral high-horses don't work. What's good at a personal level isn't good as public policy.
But one also needs to ask - what if the target population is already aware that the negative "news" is false? RG's Chowkidar Chor Hai campaign was a dismal flop. Why? It was negative news. It still failed, because the target audience knew that it wasn't "news" but propaganda.

So take the example that the lady above gives, about 40% jobs saved by the incumbent governor, vs 60% jobs lost. What if the population already knew that the statistic was made up, and that it was actually 90% vs 10%? Would that negative "news" still stick? Chowkidar Chor Hai showed that no, it will not (at least it did not, in that particular case). Likewise the "farmers' protests" also fizzled. Attempts to taint Modi with fake scams failed. Award wapasi likewise.

I think it is fair to say that Modi works by discrediting the propaganda to begin with, through actions which speak much louder.
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Prem Kumar wrote: Its also why Modi sarkar, in addition to spreading positivity, should remind the misdeeds of the opposition & the grotesque conditions our country was under, while C-system, DMK et al were ruling. Moral high-horses don't work. What's good at a personal level isn't good as public policy.
I think this is a good point that what works at a personal level for self should not necessarily be seen as working for a society at large, becuase, by definition, the society is a large collection of individuals, each with a different perspective, attention span, news consumption habits and personal prejudices. I agree with the lady in her general message, and in fact, what she says is just a small echo (maybe 5%) of what is explained in advaita vedanta (or maybe even yoga sutras) on this very topic- i.e. how negative (OR positive) thoughts tend to develop their own momentum to either better (or wreck) an individual's equanimity and balance (of perspective, among other things).

The other thing about perception vs. reality, and 'actions speaking louder than words', and by extension 'satyameva jayate', I think there is a time-lag (sometimes lasting years, decades or even a few centuries) before the truth starts to turn the wheels of history in the opposite direction- sometimes it is too late. For this reason, I think, atleast in politics- which is war by other means ( a take on Clausewitz who said war is politics by other means), perception is also important, because the political cycle runs once every 5 years, and truth might take 10 years or 50 years to come out. (I acknowledge that 'actions speaking louder than words', is a mostly different topic than satyameva jayate/preception).
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In today's polarized political environment the news is mostly for swinging a few % votes from fence sitters.

The core voters are quite forgiving of any mis steps from the leader's.

The channel of communication and control over it is important. You loose control over the channel. You loose control over the message.
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"The medium is the message" - Marshall McLuhan
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twitter

Someone asked a brilliant question.

Why is it that funeral pyres from India were big news but 10 million vaccine doses in one day was not

is is because we have tolerated without pushback, a whole corrosive ecosystem of "reporters" like bhikari butt, turdesai, rubbish kumar and a host of anti India "free speech" muzl1m mafia "reporters" like rana ayub and her goonda gang of presstitute sistas.

These seemingly one off contradictions tell a big story about how the BIF global media sees India or wants to portray India.

If it's a good news it will be muted, if there is a bad news it will be exaggerated and played in loop.

At the core of it all is white supremacy and jealousy which these sold out traitors feed eagerly because they see a lucrative pulitzer at the end of the anti India rainbow
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Aditya_V wrote:I feel this is the same mentality the Vijaynagar kingdom had before the battle of Talikota, you have the money and economy so you think bribes can defeat radical Islam. It is just showing weakness which invites more trouble. They think geography which has protected soo far will help them. East Asia, Europe benefited from The fact that Islamic anger has mostly been targeted at India mainly due our weakness and acceptance which is still widely on display. It will move to the place which shows weakness and acceptance.

Kerala , Bengal prepartition Punjab, Delhi and much of India are good examples the more it is accepted, the more it acts as an incubator to finally consume the entire land.
Brilliantly written, saar. kudos.
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chetak wrote:twitter

Someone asked a brilliant question.

Why is it that funeral pyres from India were big news but 10 million vaccine doses in one day was not

is is because we have tolerated without pushback, a whole corrosive ecosystem of "reporters" like bhikari butt, turdesai, rubbish kumar and a host of anti India "free speech" muzl1m mafia "reporters" like rana ayub and her goonda gang of presstitute sistas.

These seemingly one off contradictions tell a big story about how the BIF global media sees India or wants to portray India.

If it's a good news it will be muted, if there is a bad news it will be exaggerated and played in loop.

At the core of it all is white supremacy and jealousy which these sold out traitors feed eagerly because they see a lucrative pulitzer at the end of the anti India rainbow
There are 1.38 billion Indians but CNN selects only someone with mentality of Rana Ayub who wished in a tweet that the whole country should perish to represent India related news. Shows the mentality of CNN
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Indian media houses need to invest in and create our own global media channels. We are beginning to have enough global diaspora and economic, strategic reach to justify this. Republic TV had some ambitions, don't know where they are now.

GOI also issued an RFP for consultation services to launch an international media service earlier this year.

Hope in the next year or two, we achieve this. Heck it can't be tougher to create an Al Jazeera than sending humans into space.
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chetak wrote:twitter

Someone asked a brilliant question.

Why is it that funeral pyres from India were big news but 10 million vaccine doses in one day was not

is is because we have tolerated without pushback, a whole corrosive ecosystem of "reporters" like bhikari butt, turdesai, rubbish kumar and a host of anti India "free speech" muzl1m mafia "reporters" like rana ayub and her goonda gang of presstitute sistas.

These seemingly one off contradictions tell a big story about how the BIF global media sees India or wants to portray India.

If it's a good news it will be muted, if there is a bad news it will be exaggerated and played in loop.

At the core of it all is white supremacy and jealousy which these sold out traitors feed eagerly because they see a lucrative pulitzer at the end of the anti India rainbow
Keep in mind when Internet came of age in the early 2000s , lots of people predicted the end of newspapers and journalism.
Now these same people have evolved into peddling narratives in the for of journalism ..and know what, there is an audience for that ..and to propagate sensationalism.
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Aditya_V wrote:
chetak wrote:twitter

At the core of it all is white supremacy and jealousy which these sold out traitors feed eagerly because they see a lucrative pulitzer at the end of the anti India rainbow
There are 1.38 billion Indians but CNN selects only someone with mentality of Rana Ayub who wished in a tweet that the whole country should perish to represent India related news. Shows the mentality of CNN
It could be very well that no one else was willing to do the downright dirty and dishonest thing !..and may well need the skin of a rhino
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A sensible response to the issue of Nehru and others going to jail, is simply to state that the imprisonment and sacrifices of individuals at a particular juncture in history must be acknowledged and respected. But that has little if anything to do with what's going on today. Which has a lot to do with the cumulative events and conditions of the last several decades.
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Jokes apart, this is seriously a very sick behavior of Congress. Shows how it respects democracy. If they are not in power, they will not recognize any one. It hides the real vicious character of Sonia led Congress.
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shravanp wrote:Jokes apart, this is seriously a very sick behavior of Congress. Shows how it respects democracy. If they are not in power, they will not recognize any one. It hides the real vicious character of Sonia led Congress.
shravanp ji,


Modi has stopped saying "congress mukth Barath" because even though everyone knows exactly what he meant by it, the liberandus and darbaris began to get upset because they actually saw the dismantling happening right in front of their eyes and their own futures also heading towards being flushed down the toilet.

So, Modi may have stopped saying it but it does not mean that he has changed his position.

the commies, pappu, pappi and the mafia clan are all fighting with their backs to the wall and the BIF has pitched in to help them out because they see a serious existential threat.

If and when the mafia and the commies go, a lot of the BIF will have no option but to pack up and leave.

It may be a joke for some but for the mafia and the commies, it is their worst nightmare come true.

shaheenbagh is the beginning of the merged mobilization and the dark forces behind the khakistanis, commies and the thookers are muscling in.

UP will be make or break, and one suspects that "offers" have been made to the "always the bridesmaid never the bride" nitishwa.
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Well worth a look. It is a very interesting video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Uqm1VxvQ0


Ex RAW Officer N K Sood exposed Hamid Ansari & Many Others.


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x posted from the terroristan thread



This guy badly deserves a .50 cal haircut

his motor mouth accommodates very large size shoes

this is the second time that he is repeating the same threat, and it nothing but a threat from a paki from the boondocks.

Goes to show, you can take the paki out of the boondocks but you can never take the boondocks out of the paki.

This guy is a catastrophic one man army and a weaponized information garbage machine




Pakistan NSA Moeed Yusuf Says 'West Faces Another 9/11 if Taliban Not Recognised', Then Retracts

AUGUST 30, 2021

Pakistan’s National Security Adviser (NSA) Moeed Yusuf has asked the British newspaper The Sunday Times to clarify and retract an interview he gave to journalist Christina Lamb in which he allegedly warned the West that if it does not “immediately recognise" the Taliban, it will face a second 9/11. Lamb has refuted Yusuf’s claim of “mischaracterisation," claiming that the interview was taped.

According to a statement issued by Yusuf’s office on Sunday, the 28 August interview, titled “Work with the Taliban or Repeat the Horror of the 1990s, West Told," is a “gross mischaracterization" of the interaction between Yusuf and Lamb, the Print said in a report.

The Pakistan High Commission in the UK has issued the publication a formal demand for the story to be retracted and corrected, according to the statement.

Lamb is The Sunday Times’ chief international correspondent and an award-winning journalist.

In the Times interview, Yusuf is quoted as saying: “Mark my words…If the mistakes of the Nineties are made again and Afghanistan abandoned, the outcome will be absolutely the same — a security vacuum filled by undesirable elements who will threaten everyone, Pakistan and the West.”

In his comment, Yusuf voiced his dissatisfaction with the article’s sub-title, which reads, “Risk a second 9/11 if you don’t recognise Afghanistan’s new leaders, Pakistan’s national security adviser warns." The statement continues, “This connotation was created and completely incorrectly attributed to the National Security Adviser.”

Meanwhile, even though Yusuf denied making the controversial remark, the Pakistan National Security Agency appeared to make a similar statement in an interview with British station Sky News Sunday.

The Sky News interview, titled “ “The West could face another 9/11 and mass refugee crisis if it abandons country, says Pakistan security adviser”, quoted him as saying: “Migrants will flow, terrorism will flow and none of us want that so let’s not make that mistake again”.


“The dangers of abandonment, which came about in the 1990s, there was a breakdown of law and order, there was a breakdown of security, there were international terrorists who took root, there was an economic crisis, there was a governance problem and at the end of the day there was 9/11," he added.
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shravanp wrote:... snipping youtube video

Wonder what snake oil is being sold as 'mentorship program'. Kajri bai wants to implement this across the country.
Shravanp Saar,
Isn't this old wine in old bottle being sold as something new. When AAP was formed they gave an air/aura that they would get the educated and do gooders to join politics from their party and a lot of the people (good natured and fly by night operators signed up, most seemed to have wisened up in these past few years).
This seem to be the same with the new hero from corona battle being showcased as a mentor or whatever while that sourpuss is left sulking in the background with his constipated look.
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https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/jiha ... mme-at-jnu
The course, titled ‘Counter Terrorism, Asymmetric Conflicts and Strategies for Cooperation among Major Powers’, was cleared by the Academic Council, which is the highest decision making body of the varsity, during a meeting on 17 August. The council's clearance for the course will have to be endorsed by the Executive Council.

The new course will be offered to students pursuing an MS with specialisation in International Relations after a BTech in Engineering, reports Indian Express.

According to the report, one of the new course’s modules, titled ‘Fundamentalist-religious Terrorism and its Impact’, states: “Fundamentalist – religious inspired terrorism has played a very critical and dominant role in the spawning of terrorist violence in the beginning of the 21st century. The perverse interpretation of the Koran has resulted in the rapid proliferation of a jihadi cultist violence that glorifies death by terror in suicidal and homicidal variants.”

It further adds that the exploitation of the cyberspace by the "radical Islamic religious clerics has resulted in the electronic propagation of jihadi terrorism world over. Online electronic dissemination of Jihadi terrorism has resulted in the spurt of violence in non-Islamic societies that are secular and are now increasingly vulnerable to the violence that (is) on the increase.”

Another module of the new course, titled ‘State-sponsored Terrorism: It’s Influence and Impact’, refers to the state-sponsored terrorism by communist regimes such as erstwhile Soviet Union and China.
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Rudradev wrote:
chetak wrote:
Modi has to permit.

To permit, he had to provide data, background and let them glimpse his thought process and that of his team, for "in depth" human interest reportage.

When Modi trusting Indians don't know Modi's mind why should the inimical goras have access to it and to what end
Why does Modi himself have to do any such thing?

Other govts-- even the Chinese-- have entire departments dedicated completely to designing and distributing the specific messages, information, spin, and other narrative-building machinery necessary to stay ahead of the discourse. In an age of internet, smartphones, and 24X7 cable news this is more vital than at any time previously. At both a national and an international level.

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The kind of people appointed give a clear idea how important Modi/GOI think the job is. What would it cost them to make someone remotely media-savvy, like Smriti Irani or Meenakshi Lekhi, the I&B Minister and let that person take care of things?

and yes, they all want only Modi to do the interviews, be accessible to them 24X7 on their speed dial because that is what "they say is democracy"

white journo privilege talking down to lower caste brown skin PM
They can want whatever they want.

There is a huge, yawning gulf between:

A) Giving foreign journos and BIF RNI journos whatever they want

and

B ) Ceding 100% of the entire information-warfare space to the BIFs by doing next to nothing.

This is the swamp that Modi has kept at bay and, BTW, the India narrative has always been controlled by the BIF for over 70 odd years now, no matter who the PM was
It has always been controlled by the BIF... therefore we should quietly accept that it will be forever controlled by the BIF, because the present GOI would rather rely on aam junta supporters on Twitter/Whatsapp/Facebook to do what is needed. If after 7 years as PM Modi is just "keeping the swamp at bay" rather than draining it and replacing it with usable real-estate, that smacks of complacency.

Today the GOI has become complacent because the opposition is useless. Rahul Gandhi, Kejriwal, Laloo, etc reek so obviously of feces that not all the Chanel No. 5 applied by RNI and foreign media can mask the stench. So GOI feels like it will never have to worry, no matter what the BIF media says.

Mark my words-- this WILL not be the case forever. At some point there will be a serious political challenge to Modi/BJP. And the entire media machinery whose narrative currently markets the Rahul Gandhis of the world will converge upon that political challenge with guns out and blazing. The usual ragtag army of aam junta Social Media warriors will have NO chance of fighting back at that point, with the Social Media platforms themselves getting taken over by overtly hostile ideological actors.

That is when a large and muscular professional institution dedicated to specialist information-management, funded and developed by resources only available to the GOI, will be a matter of life and death for BJP and indeed our entire civilization. So far, not even the basic foundation for any such thing has been established. And it will take years, if not decades, to build one.

I am not someone who criticizes Modi lightly on this that & the other. In fact, I often come out to defend him from the "Modi is doing nothing for Hindoooooos" type of pointless caterwauling. But I see this total lack of information management as a critical vulnerability.

The very fact that ordinary citizens like me have to come out and do the information-warfare pushback, be it on Demonetization, GST, Article 370, Balakot, CAA, or the Pandemic Response is living, physical proof of this vulnerability.
Rudradev Saar,
The govt can have a better communication strategy, but it won't matter any more than what they are doing now. Suraj Saan has given a very good description of the media dalals/brokers business and how it is different from the west.
The govt has regular press releases through their PIB portal and also has some periodic announcements by the bureaucrats, the MSM so to speak ignores all of that and just runs their own analysis or brings in half baked analysts to give their slanted views.
Take the CAA or the farm laws. the PM Modiji himself came and said the farm laws are due to 20 years of recommendations of various commissions and even the opposition had a similar thing in manifesto and they could take credit for it, did it stop the usual cretins from spreading fear psychosis.
Same thing with the CAA, it doesn't affect the citizens in the country but the muslims were whipped into a frenzy with the wire's flowchart or Owaisi, NDTV relentless coverage.

Social media space is being muscled in by the wokes and leftists, but is there any credible alternatives as of now. Koo is getting there, might need a little more seasoning. the social media was just an alternative available to them at a point when most of the MSM in India was busy licking/whitewashing then UPA regime's crimes. So the search for newer venues from SM will take more time.

The current govt seems to prefer to work rather than confront on issues unless it is the only option left. Smriti Irani ji was in the HRD ministry and she was in the news constantly with the fights with JNU tukde tukde gang (and she did the right thing) and left Unions with regards to certain reforms, she got transferred silently to another dept and Javdekar ji was given the portfolio.

Looking at most of their work, it seems they are most interested in doing their work within the framework of the constitution and laws, but the supporters of the govt seem to want them to use the 303 mandate at every drop of hat issue. being supporters of the govt it is left on them to carry their good work as in olden days when Modiji's work in gujarat was peppered with his speeches in the Sm that caused swell of support his way.
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Chetakji should find this interesting

https://indianexpress.com/article/citie ... n-7482830/


For the first time I have seen GoI being so blunt against Prashant Bhushans antics that too on record:

“Any intermeddler cannot come before your lordships. Your lordships, court is not a public platform. This is not a Jantar Mantar or Ramlila Maidan where anybody gets up and starts saying whatever he feels like. These are all appointments made by statutory authorities, appointments of responsible officers, you may like, you may not like,” continued Mehta.
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He also alleged that a very systemic pattern was emerging: “Some selected few web portals would first publish a news item based on which every appointment must pass through the muster of Mr (Prashant) Bhushan first. Otherwise, he comes before the court and makes all kinds of allegations. We will say that on an affidavit if need be.”
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Syed Ali Shah Geelani passes away in Srinagar.
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I am glad he lived long enough to see some amount of justice done (with Article 35A and 370 abrogation).
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Rudradev wrote:I am glad he lived long enough to see some amount of justice done (with Article 35A and 370 abrogation).
amen, brother.

a fine send off to keep him bitter for eternity.

If the IA was even 10% as bad as he said it was, would this creep have lasted 92 years, doing what he did
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Tanaji wrote:Chetakji should find this interesting

https://indianexpress.com/article/citie ... n-7482830/


For the first time I have seen GoI being so blunt against Prashant Bhushans antics that too on record:

“Any intermeddler cannot come before your lordships. Your lordships, court is not a public platform. This is not a Jantar Mantar or Ramlila Maidan where anybody gets up and starts saying whatever he feels like. These are all appointments made by statutory authorities, appointments of responsible officers, you may like, you may not like,” continued Mehta.
thank you Tanaji saar

this charlatan deserves this and more for his antics in the courts.

he is getting paid for this because someone with more funds than sense is backing frauds like him.
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Cyrano wrote:That is the best response, after exposing CGH cabale
Mehta :oops:

What is CGH, please.
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INC's internal strife in Punjab and Chattisgarh, BJP's neverending troubles in Karnataka and now Tripura, the family squabbles in regional parties like NCP, SaPa, SAD, while all of this gives plenty of talking points to political pundits and juicy gossips for mango junta, it cannot be good for democracy or the long term political stability in the country. While all parties including BJP have benefited from internal powerstruggles in opposition , the governance , strategic thought and development takes a backseat when politicians bicker among themselves for ministership berths and a bigger cut in loot. I don't know what is good for democracy, to have a two party system like in the US or UK or have a multi-party system like some democracies in Europe like Denmark. If India moves towards a 2 party system then while it may bring in much needed stability to governments both at the state and at the central level, but on the other hand it will inevitably make it so much harder for a nationalist party to win any election given the prevalence of leftist parties. Guess we stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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Ambar wrote:INC's internal strife in Punjab and Chattisgarh, BJP's neverending troubles in Karnataka and now Tripura, the family squabbles in regional parties like NCP, SaPa, SAD, while all of this gives plenty of talking points to political pundits and juicy gossips for mango junta, it cannot be good for democracy or the long term political stability in the country. While all parties including BJP have benefited from internal powerstruggles in opposition , the governance , strategic thought and development takes a backseat when politicians bicker among themselves for ministership berths and a bigger cut in loot. I don't know what is good for democracy, to have a two party system like in the US or UK or have a multi-party system like some democracies in Europe like Denmark. If India moves towards a 2 party system then while it may bring in much needed stability to governments both at the state and at the central level, but on the other hand it will inevitably make it so much harder for a nationalist party to win any election given the prevalence of leftist parties. Guess we stuck between a rock and a hard place.
The problem isn't how many parties we have but the parties being family fiefdoms like we never ever came out of the feudal era. Aside from the BJP, AAP and the commies nearly every single political party in India is basically a family business with the son, daughter, wife, pet cat etc. of the big guy all involved in the party and ready to succeed him once he kicks the bucket. Problem with the parties is that there is not even a semblance of internal democracy or any real chance for someone not blood related to the top guy (or some regional satrap) to ever rise to the top. This is not the case in western democracies, even the ones with multiple parties. 2 party system is not ideal for India. It is not ideal even for the US but that is OT. But 2 or 100, the leadership of each party needs to keep changing from time to time. People need to step down and make way for others, those who aren't their own kids.
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It exists within BJP and commies as well and it is not always because some leader tries to put his progeny ahead of the party's interests. In several BJP run states there are multiple factions, and as long as the CM somehow manages to keep all the factions happy the government survives, but if not then people from one faction actively work with the opposition to bring down the government. The same people who orchestrated the collapse of INC-JDS government in Karnataka a mere 2 yrs ago are also the same ones who are actively engaged in weakening the BJP government today, so no side is immune.

How will any party run a stable government when there are 3 or 4 factions within the same government baying for each other's blood ? Every MLA and MP aspires to be a minister, and those who are ministers want lucrative positions to add to their thousands of crores of ill-gotten wealth. Atleast in a 2 party system the umbrella is so wide that factions may not be able to bring down governments at whim or jump parties when things don't go their way. Several scandinavian countries are multi-party democracies, how they manage to govern and maintain one of the highest qualities of life for their citizens while managing coalition politics may be a lesson for us but then again it may take us another century before we get there.
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I heard scum bag Prabhakar Parakala (husband of Nirmala) had a vomiting crapping all over BJP and Mod/Shah calling them all kinds of names. During second wave, this garbage filth did same thing spewing poison all over.

I was looking at the wikipedia of this scumbag. He was CON MLA and joined BJP then quit in 2006. Then this scum used BJP partnership with TDP and got in as advisor. He then quit when she became FM and TDP & BJP got in fight. ANother JNU creep. He is born in Narsapur/AP where my father was born.

Wondering why piece of garbage spews so much venom and why BJP has to tolerate them. Most likely this scum probably wants a job and Modi does not want him anywhere near by.
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We have to make a sticky thread named Hall of Shame for such scams who sold themselves for few hundred dollars. There are many in every sphere.they fo harm to Indian interest
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Hindu hater Priyamvada Gopal is a great grand daughter of Dr S. Radhakrishnan, a former president of India. Her grandfather Dr S. Gopal wrote biography of Jawaharlal Nehru

and her father produced this monstrosity priyamvada
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In India we have this sense of entitlement that comes to the children and grnd children of famous people. There is this Gandhi clown. Such people reap the benefit of such connections and make ridicule statements . They assume that any word coming out their mouth is a great quote.well this in our culture. It will take some time. Heck the family of elder brother of Belgian King lives 1km from me. His wife is often seen in local supermarket. She comes to take DHL or UPS packets from one of our store. Every time she has to show her Belgian ID card where her title Princes is mentioned. This what happens in advanced countries.
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