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sanman wrote: 24 Nov 2023 03:52 SECRET INTELLIGENCE DOCUMENTS SHOW GLOBAL REACH OF INDIA’S DEATH SQUADS
Leaked Pakistani intelligence backs up Canada’s claim of an Indian assassination program.

https://theintercept.com/2023/11/21/ind ... -pakistan/
Love it = "Indian death squads". WTF do they expect a Nehru Award plaque?

IMO, Indians (and Israelis) are the only ones playing and enjoying this game. Note that Mossad has stated that Hamas leaders are dead men walking. Doha is not secure anymore.

Allah O Akbar.

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I do not think Pannu was ever threatened by anyone other than his own shadow.

India needs a joker in the pack. Pannu provides that feature. I do not think India has ever had any intention to kill this guy - he has never done anything more than provide comic relief.
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Question to more learned folks here

Is the move to convert all airborne battalions to SF already complete? Or is it still underway.

I have been thinking and reading a lot these past few days about our PARA SF forces and what ails them and why we are seeing such heavy SF losses in the last few years.

The actual mandate of what we want to use our Special Forces for has always been the biggest confusion. It seems in all these years of CI instead of being an elite strike force for specific missions we have made it more of a RR+ / Special Infantry which imo could have been done with just better equipping and training the RR and Ghatak platoons instead of expanding the SF role.


The mismatch in equipment between the 9, 4 PARA SFs and some of the newer ones is also disheartening to see.

While the surgical strikes were a welcome development and precise use of SF capabilities it seems we only intend to do that once every few years as a "statement operation" instead of making it a more common reaction to cross border attacks.

With the hoopla around theatrization I am surprised that the proposed AFSOD/JSOC like committee hasn't been discussed more with a goal of best utilizing the fragemrnted Indian Spec Ops
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The intercept is a Marxist/islamist propaganda portal . However enjoy the Rona dhona .

I think this may be a good time to do the joker . Just to demonstrate the capability to do those things even when under a lens . Even if he provides lal topi style comic relief (there are even physical similarities lol) .
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AkshaySG wrote: 25 Nov 2023 19:27 Question to more learned folks here

Is the move to convert all airborne battalions to SF already complete? Or is it still underway.

I have been thinking and reading a lot these past few days about our PARA SF forces and what ails them and why we are seeing such heavy SF losses in the last few years.

The actual mandate of what we want to use our Special Forces for has always been the biggest confusion. It seems in all these years of CI instead of being an elite strike force for specific missions we have made it more of a RR+ / Special Infantry which imo could have been done with just better equipping and training the RR and Ghatak platoons instead of expanding the SF role.


The mismatch in equipment between the 9, 4 PARA SFs and some of the newer ones is also disheartening to see.

While the surgical strikes were a welcome development and precise use of SF capabilities it seems we only intend to do that once every few years as a "statement operation" instead of making it a more common reaction to cross border attacks.

With the hoopla around theatrization I am surprised that the proposed AFSOD/JSOC like committee hasn't been discussed more with a goal of best utilizing the fragemrnted Indian Spec Ops
Each one of the PARA SF regiments have different mandates and they are equipped to suite the environments they operate in and their mandates. So the mismatch you are referring to should be something that happened by design and not due to procurement policy. SF's in the CI were not used along with other RR personnel. SF's in J&K have had a different mandate. Not all neutered pigs were shown to the camera's and so were the operations of the SF.
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Inside NSG Documentary - the chair from the Palm lounge at Taj gives goose pimples.

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https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1764 ... 48947?s=20 ---> Mud Walking: MARCOS.

Fun Fact: One of the most gruelling/ physically demanding parts of training. Performed during low tide in designated areas with soft mud bottom over distances of 500 meters to one km (routinely) and sometimes more! One is embedded knee/ thigh/waist deep in the mud (depending on one's height). The key is to keep moving and not allow body weight to sink into the mud! Torture for thigh and calf muscles but I've been told, this event (before, during and after) makes for amazing memories!

https://x.com/elitepredatorss/status/17 ... 94895?s=20 ---> And when you get stuck in the mud, nobody comes to rescue you. They just leave you there till the high tide returns and then you have to get out of the mud. They just throw some water bottles around you so that you don't die of dehydration. MARCOS are crazy.

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