Google Earth updates more cities and airports in India

KrishnaMu · Post by **KrishnaMu** » 26 Mar 2009 23:33

What is this on Indo-Pak border in Rajasthan??

Yellow line is border.. Left is Pak, Right is India..

I think yellow line could be slightly wrong as i marked the border fence??

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 26 Mar 2009 23:47

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sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Mar 2009 23:51

Why IB4TL?

This is quite a useful and informative thread!!!!

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 27 Mar 2009 08:33

sum wrote:Why IB4TL?This is quite a useful and informative thread!!!!

Sorry, my bad!
I mistook this to be a completely new thread!

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 27 Mar 2009 09:27

Kesri D
Please check mail. I have located only three sites with the twin sat dishes. There are more for sure, because the dishes also point in various other directions, but GE doesn't yet show those / I haven't been able to study those in detail.

Kersi D · Post by **Kersi D** » 27 Mar 2009 13:17

p_saggu wrote:Kesri D
Please check mail. I have located only three sites with the twin sat dishes. There are more for sure, because the dishes also point in various other directions, but GE doesn't yet show those / I haven't been able to study those in detail.

i got yr post.. Will reply shortly

Kersi

nyema · Post by **nyema** » 26 Apr 2009 01:34

Kersi D wrote:I have scene and located this "twin sat dish domes" at a couple of other places too.

Those "twin sat dish domes" are troposcatter antennas for over the horizon radio communication. They provide an independent telephone network for the air force. I've recently mapped the indian network: http://rammstein.dfmk.hu/~s200/tropo.html#iaf

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 26 Apr 2009 01:56

nyema,
You're right!
Could you link a KML file for all the above. (Including the India-USSR).
Thanks in advance.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 26 Apr 2009 02:25

The IAF has an airforce base in Tajikistan where Mig-29 fighters and Mi-8 choppers are based. There is also a Military Hospital there, very close to the Tajikistan-Afghanistan border.
This MH was where Ahmed Shah Masood was taken to after he was assasinated in the camera bomb blast two days before 9-11.

No wonder that the IAF has communications at this place!

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Apr 2009 13:41

The IAF has an airforce base in Tajikistan where Mig-29 fighters and Mi-8 choppers are based.

Errr, wasnt the MiG-29 issue still only under discussion? Have we actually based any fighters there?

nyema · Post by **nyema** » 27 Apr 2009 00:59

Here's the kml: http://rammstein.dfmk.hu/~s200/tropo/Tropo.kmz

nyema · Post by **nyema** » 27 Apr 2009 01:21

p_saggu wrote:No wonder that the IAF has communications at this place!

Well, the Srinagar - Dushanbe tropo link was not for India's own purposes. It was a part of the Moscow - Delhi hotline, and it was developed and built entirely by the russians (soviets) in 1981. The rest of the line used more conventional methods to transfer the signals. The tropo link is no longer active, as using satellites are cheaper, more reliable and give higher bandwidth.

The IAF tropo network is also just a small part of IAF's radio communication network. Some tropo lines look isolated, but they are all connected with line of sight microwave links.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 27 Apr 2009 01:56

nyema,
Thanks for the link. This must have taken several internet hours to compile!
How secure is communications in this manner? Do these work on the LOS principle or is the signal bounced off the stratosphere for over the horizon reach?

Yes the IAF now relies more on Microwave links along with fiberoptic cable connections and geosat comm. Next year onwards, the defense services will have an exclusive mil comm satellite.

Kersi D · Post by **Kersi D** » 03 May 2009 19:17

Harry wrote:There seem to be a number of vehicles (s300s?) at Bikaner AF?

23 03 N 73 12 E

Harry
Bikaner is nowhere near these coordinates

K

Kersi D · Post by **Kersi D** » 04 May 2009 11:49

Ankit Desai wrote:14 47'39.43"N 74 08'09.88"E Silo?!?!

I think this could be the chemical plant of Ballarpur Industries Ltd

K

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 11 Jun 2009 03:37

Just like Google earth, microsoft has the "Virtual Earth"

Now Hyderabad - Rajiv Gandhi International Airport is available on High resolution. It is interesting to note the location of the airport and the direction of the runway. Any flight towards the east with the passenger looking north will get a nice cozy view of

.

I wonder if anything in India ever has a security implication, and if the agencies ever screen such things. There certainly is NO NO-FLY-ZONE here. If there ever was a place which deserved one, this place does not have it.

The airport and the runway is actually a threat with national security implications.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 28 Jun 2009 10:38

Halwara AFB, has finally been displayed in High resolution on Google Earth.

There is a $hit load of Mig-29s and Mig-23/27s around the base.

Kersi D · Post by **Kersi D** » 05 Jul 2009 17:26

There are quite a few air bases in "fairly" high resolution which many of us may not even heard of !!!

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 11 Jul 2009 02:31

I was browsing through taiwan and found that some of the sites have been censored for example

http://wikimapia.org/10932816/Censored-Naval-Area

Is it just a special case for taiwan or is it with every other country?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2009 19:14

It is interesting (and typical of the "world order that Arunachal Pradesh and vast areas of India have borders marked in red on Google Earth to indicate disputed territory, but not Taiwan, or for that matter the Falklands.

Is this because we Indians just take things lying down?

Gosh look at the rush of Indians proudly proclaiming that they work for Google..

Shameek · Post by **Shameek** » 13 Jul 2009 19:30

^^ I have seen quite a few who always are seen wearing Google t-shirts! Probably working for Google is a matter of greater pride than being an Indian.
People are busy putting their names on wikimapia but no one bothers to mark these sensitive territories.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2009 19:54

Chinese runways/airfields in Tibet:

Runway in Tibet - 5 Km long 3800 meters up
Lat: 29°21'22.97"N
Long: 89°18'15.37"E

Runway - 3 km long 13 Km rom Arunachal Pradesh border
Lat: 29°18'12.80"N
Long: 94°19'55.22"E

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 13 Jul 2009 21:30

I can upload my collection of chinese airfields, including some which are not visible on GE.

The surprising thing is that some borders areas of uttranchal and himachal with Tibet are also marked in red, indicating the disputed nature of the border.

Finally about Demchock in J&K, although the whole southern part of the eastern border of J&K is shown to be in the hands of the chinese, I can see Indian border posts in the middle of Demchock, and along a line, halfway through that area. Has there been a partial settlement of the borders there? Demchock itself seems to be half in indian and half in chinese hands.

I also have all the IAF and IN bases marked out, in case any one is interested. I do understand, that being on google earth, these are open for all to see, and the enemy probably has better sources of satellite photography than google earth. I would recommend being open about any infrastructure that is visible, without identifying what a certain building represents, or identifying a structure that is not yet visible on GE.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 13 Jul 2009 21:37

shiv wrote:Chinese runways/airfields in Tibet:

Runway in Tibet - 5 Km long 3800 meters up
Lat: 29°21'22.97"N
Long: 89°18'15.37"E

This is the 5 Km Shigaste airfield. They also have another 5 Km airfield under construction, not visible on GE, at Shiquanhe around these coordinates 32°28'41.79"N 80° 5'52.05"E

shiv wrote:Runway - 3 km long 13 Km rom Arunachal Pradesh border
Lat: 29°18'12.80"N
Long: 94°19'55.22"E

This is the Nyingchi Airport, right at the arunachal border, well within artillery range of our troops. The interesting thing to note is that this airport is CAT III capable, which I think only Delhi airport is capable of in India. There is no nearby town of importance here, and this is purely supposed to be a military airfield, with occasional civilian flights, mostly catering to the military folks.

Shiv-ji if you can mail me your email address, I can send you the google earth placemarks of the stuff I have. my mail is omettebread at yahoo dot com

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 13 Jul 2009 23:32

Talking of maps with disputed boundaries, we has been using one with 'Cashmere'-the POK part, Aksai Chin and AP marked as part of India but withthe their boundaries in soft white lines clearly refering to their disputed status. Moi raised a hue and cry and after "whats the big deal" from powers that be argument, simply refused to work on the assignment if themap is not removed. And finally it was.....small victory for this SDRE Yindoo bania......

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 14 Jul 2009 06:18

p_saggu wrote:I can upload my collection of chinese airfields, including some which are not visible on GE.

psaggu I have always wondered why we on BR take so much trouble to maintain a whole thread on Indian landmarks on Google Earth and do not maintain any record of Chinses or Paki installations. It's almost like waving into a TV camera in a cricket ground to say "Look Ma I am here" - you never say - look Ma Laxman is sitting there.

Why not make your whole list public if that is not a problem?

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 14 Jul 2009 06:23

shiv wrote:
p_saggu wrote:I can upload my collection of chinese airfields, including some which are not visible on GE.

psaggu I have always wondered why we on BR take so much trouble to maintain a whole thread on Indian landmarks on Google Earth and do not maintain any record of Chinses or Paki installations.

oh we have a secret forum where we post that kind ofstuff

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.p ... d=1#import (4086 downloads but that was long time ago and probably there are more updated KMZs out there)

Chinese airfields - I will leave it to others

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 14 Jul 2009 07:28

by the way talking about useful interpretations - count the number of hardened blastpens in Sargodha Air Base - yep 87 of em!

not counting another half a dozen hangars and sheds.

Add other targets - ammo dumps, aa guns, missile sites, camoflaged open parking areas. the only viable counter air operation would be to take out the runways.

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 14 Jul 2009 09:34

How do I upload placemarks? On rapidshare? Can't I do this on google earth and do some 'samaj sewa' specially for the paki and chinese sites?

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 14 Jul 2009 09:52

OK here it is - my collection of Videshi Maal. Includes:
1. Spaceports Russia and China
2. Miscell - World
3. Afghanistan
4. Pakistan
5. China

Click: http://rapidshare.com/files/255588317/V ... l.kml.html

These include nearly all pak airfields, nuclear and strategic sites. Nearly all chinese airfields. Much of Pakistan is from Jagan's google webpage.

I also have a similar Desi KMZ. Which I will share only by email.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 14 Jul 2009 11:24

p_saggu wrote:The IAF has an airforce base in Tajikistan where Mig-29 fighters and Mi-8 choppers are based. There is also a Military Hospital there, very close to the Tajikistan-Afghanistan border.
This MH was where Ahmed Shah Masood was taken to after he was assasinated in the camera bomb blast two days before 9-11.

No wonder that the IAF has communications at this place!

Sagguji...you are doing a great job...kudos to you. I found the base on google maps...but no fighters there...anyways my intention was to see if the base is protected by SA missile sites...if no problems...let us know what your observations are..

Thanks
Venky

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 14 Jul 2009 12:21

Farkhor AFB in tajikistan, was supposed to have been online since 2007. There have been no media reports about it ever since. The google earth image is not updated. Bing doesn't even have a high res image.

Kakarat · Post by **Kakarat** » 14 Jul 2009 17:20

p_saggu wrote: I also have a similar Desi KMZ. Which I will share only by email.

I would like to have it, my gmail id is kakarat2001

arjun_vs · Post by **arjun_vs** » 14 Jul 2009 18:27

p_saggu wrote:OK here it is - my collection of Videshi Maal. Includes:
1. Spaceports Russia and China
2. Miscell - World
3. Afghanistan
4. Pakistan
5. China

Click: http://rapidshare.com/files/255588317/V ... l.kml.html

These include nearly all pak airfields, nuclear and strategic sites. Nearly all chinese airfields. Much of Pakistan is from Jagan's google webpage.

I also have a similar Desi KMZ. Which I will share only by email.

saggu saab when i clicked this link it says the limit has reached

. Wat should i do to get this really hot maal

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 14 Jul 2009 22:38

For now here is a different link again: http://rapidshare.com/files/255785147/V ... l.kmz.html

This too has a ten downloads / 90 days limit onlee.

Here is the link to the Google Earth Community - Jagan's page, with my post "Omlettebread" at the end. Download from there.Jagan's page

Download link

yogi · Post by **yogi** » 14 Jul 2009 23:59

shiv wrote:It is interesting (and typical of the "world order that Arunachal Pradesh and vast areas of India have borders marked in red on Google Earth to indicate disputed territory, but not Taiwan, or for that matter the Falklands.

Is this because we Indians just take things lying down?

Gosh look at the rush of Indians proudly proclaiming that they work for Google..

To add to this, in google maps, all the cities and points in Arunachal now show their names in Chinese alphabet (just like Tibet or the rest of china). Its pretty insulting. Can we lodge a protest with Google somewhere about this?

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 15 Jul 2009 00:26

If GOI is going to sit on its A$$ and do nothing, this is bound to happen.
Any map within India has to have J&K shown as complete part of India - no lines running through any where - period.
Google and other maps on the net, microsoft et al have to be told they will have their services and offices in India closed, if this is not in accordance with India's wishes. India has to be very touchy-feely about this for a while, so that everyone will get disciplined. Otherwise there will be a tendency to do what the chinese want. These seemingly small things tend to add up, and history gets created.

The chinese withdrew / were pushed back from arunachal in 65. They have no locus standi or claim to that territory.

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 15 Jul 2009 19:45

From China

If you're in the intelligence business, Google Earth makes hiding big things nearly impossible. This image is believed to be of a 1.8-square-mile scale model of a disputed region on the border of China and India. Google Earth spotters found it in a remote area in north central China (Google Earth coordinates 38.265652,105.9517)

http://www.pcworld.com/article/134186-6 ... earth.html

Why would they need such a thing? War Simulation?

News from Aus paper says that it is used to train the tank drivers...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/chine ... 17781.html

On Google Maps-
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.26565 ... &hl=en&t=h

p_saggu · Post by **p_saggu** » 15 Jul 2009 20:18

This is the north eastern part of J&K including Aksai Chin. The pagong tso is visible.
The idea is that from the perspective of the height of a human being, this would resemble a fighter aircraft flying over the mountains.
This seems to be a relic of the era when 3 D maps on the computer did not exist. But still it is a very relevant tool to have. It depends on the level of detail that they have on the map. If they have roads and armed forces positions marked out, this can be a very very useful tool to devise strategy and conduct military dry runs.
Shows the seriousness the chinese attach to eastern J&K. I am sure back in India there would have been paper maps only for a very long time. Now of course there are 3D comp maps.

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 16 Jul 2009 01:38

Gurus is there a way we can hide a location on google earth or somewhere.This moron from live fist has posted a pic of atv's ship building center