True.Alok_N wrote: Shiv is trying to bring it back to the original premise, i.e., is EJ a threat?
But shiv also said:
Maybe the ongoing discussions do help stem the tide ?shiv wrote:What needs protection? Who needs protection? Can you protect what has already been lost? When it appears that so many educated forum members do not seem to have a clue about the Hindu dharma they claim to stand for, why the lament about loss.
Surely a lack of awareness and knowledge of what one claims is one's own heritage should not be continuously blamed on extraneous forces. By blaming extraneous forces in this day and age one of the major problems among Hindus is being "buck-passed" on to evanjehadis and Islamists.
The evenjihadis and islamists are merely reaping what Hindu decadence has sown.
But, that being said, let's get back on track.
Here's the question that needs a response:
The classic problem is that freedom of practising one's religion has been - because of the evangelical heritage of Christianity - is automatically ASSUMED to include freedom of propagating one's religion.shiv wrote:If expansionism is OK as an individual right, then does individual right bestow upon someone the right to declare that someone else's belief is wrong? Even if that right is allowed, is it wrong for the IWH to resist that.
This basic assumption is the problem.
I should be free to choose my religion that I wish to practice, or even choose NOT to practice any.
But what gives others the RIGHT to propagate what they believe in ?
At best, it is a PRIVILEGE that each individual ( or a collective ) can grant to another.
The ongoing tussle is because the evangelical faiths - even if it is accepted that their intentions are purely good-natured ( trying to save fellow beings from utter damnation ) - abuse this IMPLICIT privilege, and take it for granted that "freedom of religion" includes the freedom to propagate BY ANY MEANS necessary.
As long as they are NOT disabused of this notion, there will be no change in the ground situation.
Let the discussions begin on HOW the IWH collective can achieve this turn of events.