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The Real Story of Ram Mandir Ayodhya & Babri Masjid by Dr Meenakshi Jain

Dr. Meenakshi Jain, known for her profound research and scholarly contributions to Indian history, offers unique insights into these historically significant locations. Through her extensive work and meticulous analysis, she challenges conventional narratives, providing a nuanced understanding of India's rich cultural and religious heritage.

Mughal emperor Babur destroyed the temple at Ayodhya.

ASI conducted excavation in around 2007 and by 2010 a report was filed. They found enough evidence of destruction of an existing temple for Ram.

ICHR (Indian council of historical research) headed by hardcore commy Irfan Habib instigated the Babri activists in 1989 to fight over this site. Prior to this they had decided not to contest the claim of Ram mandir at Babri. In 1992 Babri was destroyed and they found an inscription 5ftx2ft embedded in the wall. Liar Irfan Habib made up all kinds of stories about the inscription. Chutiya.

00:01-1:20 - Introduction
1:21-15:52 - The history of Ram Janam Bhoomi & The Court Case
15:52-22:47 - What is WAQF Board?
22:48-33:20 - Babri Masjid Inscription
33:21-34:28 - The disconnection with heritage after independence
34:29-38:00 - Are today’s kids connected to their roots?
38:01-46:20 - The Krishna Janam Bhoomi Case
46:21-56:31 - The Evidence of Krishna’s Birthplace
56:32-1:09:40 - Mahmud Ghaznavi’s Invasion of Mathura
1:09:41-1:11:26 - The Raja of Orchha
1:11:27-1:19:07 - What happened to Janam Sthan?
1:19:08-1:21:24 - Shri Krishna Janam Bhoomi Trust
1:21:25-1:30:43 - Why was the land given to the Eidgah party?
1:30:44-1:34:43 - The Babri Masjid Demolition
1:34:44-1:41:56 - The Kashi Vishwanath Temple
1:41:57-1:51:20 - The Bhatt Family
1:51:21-1:55:50 - What have our historians been doing all these decades?
1:55:51-1:57:34 - Is Meenakshi Jain optimistic about the future?
1:57:35-1:57:58 - End

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y1NOgIWlIQ

BTW there is a parallel effort in Indore to create a Ram Mandir modeled on the Ayodhya mandir, using iron/steel by artists from Delhi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS69WCfCy6Q
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Nripendra Misra, an IAS officer of the 1967 batch, chairs the committee overseeing the construction of the Grand Ram Temple in Ayodhya. He served as the former Principal Secretary to Prime Minister Narendra Modi. He sheds light on the challenges faced by the committee in building the Ram Temple and delves into the project's timeline. He shares insights into the dedicated efforts of the workers, working day and night, and reveals details about the placement of the 'Ram Lalla' idol. Also, he narrates the story of how he was chosen by the PM to lead the construction panel for the Ram Mandir. Jan 22, 2024 is the opening day for the Grand Ram Temple in Ayodhya. Construction for 1st opening should be done by end of 2023. Please note the care taken (for earthquakes and floods) for the foundation of the temple advised by IIT-M and IIT-Roorkee.

Insider Insights: Key Updates on Ayodhya’s Ram Temple Construction with Nripendra Misra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WinnZR7SeGA

00:00 - Introduction
03:48 - Importance of 'Prana Pratishtha'
10:10 - Different Idols of Ram Lalla
19:57 - Construction Plan for Ram Temple
36:15 - Temple That Mirrors Pan India
41:40 - Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Teerth Kshetra Trust's Role
47:05 - Responsibilities as Ram Temple Panel Chief
58:19 - Babri Masjid Demolition & Attack on Karsevaks
01:11:22 - Working Style of PM Modi
01:24:57 - Demonetization in 2016
01:35:16 - Insight into PM's Leadership
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The Truth About Tipu Sultan That Has Been Hidden From You by Satyen Velankar

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Col Ajay Raina observes the following:

Becoming a true Bharatiya, instead of clinging on to false cultural identities like a) hum mughal hain b) hum brown sahib brit educated hain c) hum arabi/irani/turki etc. Those whose forefathers were forcibly converted to foreign/videshi faiths must understand the distinction of faith vs culture. An Iranian would never associate themselves with Arabs even though their faith is the same, similarly Egyptians are proud of who they are, Indonesians never forget their Hindu background. Only the Indian sub-continent has a strange breed of people who think they are otherwise, pretending to be what they clearly are not. A foreigner can spot an Indian and the immediate thing that comes to their mind is yoga, ganesha, temples, indian food and so on. After 370 SC decision the old kangress and leftists have been exposed for their false values. In Kashmir masjids, there is singing going on. On the ground people are boldly wearing tilaks, red strings, beads, malas in the public in J&K. BTW there is a huge movement of ex-muslims in India which the leftist/liberals/kangressi are berating them of why they are ex. Yes, with education, everything must be questioned including your own faith. When you understand the pros and cons and think for yourself then there is a quiet awakening within which firmly anchors you. You begin to realize your identity, your culture and then everything suddenly becomes clear. Gone are all the doubts, you become confident and rooted.

Euro land is turning to the right and there is clear alarm over the unbridled immigration happening, with virulent jihadis roaming around in their neighborhoods. Some euro politicos have openly sided with the BJP. All the liberals are scurrying helter skelter nowadays. Yes, every nation wants to preserve their unique culture and be proud of their identity in the world. The globalization myth is just a myth. The first task for anyone is to understand who they are, where do they come from, take pride and boldly identify themselves. Wishy washy false cling-on identities are immediately exposed, since it does not take long for an outsider to discern what is going on.

I hope this awakening in India happens quickly and people chose to be Bharatiya instead of spoon fed identities which make no sense. In the final analysis you being Indian is what counts, no one will be there to bail you out when it comes to a tussle. Strength in who you are, identification with your culture and contributing towards it makes you stronger and effective in the world at large.

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The Mandir ecosystems in the Santana economics model by Dr. Ankit Shah is a fascinating notion that many are not aware. In the olden days, mandirs were the center of economic activity for the society. Many mandirs in India continue to run on their own despite the decay caused by invaders. The mandir activity causes economic side benefits for the whole society. Young children were taught in patashalas attached to the mandir and the society bore the costs. Their dedicated gurus guided them, taught them values, nurtured them and groomed them towards independent living. When you are young you have so many directions to take and sometimes confused which way to go. The Guru ensured that he understood you individually, guided you, mentored you and molded you in the right direction. The patashalas taught many subjects, girls were encouraged to participate in the 64 kalas. There were more than 6 lakh patashalas just in the South of India. At the end of the study, the grateful student voluntarily gave his/her guru dakshina which could be small or large, no compulsions.

The mandir had numerous festivals, special days and people participated whole heartedly. The society activities provided an outlet for many to celebrate the various stages/states of their lives and be at peace with their bhagwan. The system ensured life fulfillment for everyone. Naturally, the society lived harmoniously, treated each other with civil respect, encouraged the young to learn and evolve at society's cost. The youth understood the value of such education and were a grateful lot. The mandir system provided inbuilt stability that catered towards proper mental well being and a healthy individual. These systems were carefully vetted over a period of time and the system flourishes even today despite all the carnage, destruction and subversion. India's learning system was very advanced and world leading. Many major scientific, mathematic, astronomy discoveries were made in a free inquiring environment. In fact, India was the Vishwa Guru to the world and students from other nations flocked to learn at the feet of the great masters of India.

The Britshits replaced the Indian system with their own system of learning, which usurped many original scientific ideas and thoughts from India. It was geared towards enslaving the mind and the person into an alien way of learning. The Brits created a system without foundation in Sanatan India. They left behind schools and colleges which are completely commercial in nature, very doctrinal and churning out mindless rote learning students with no great guru gyan to guide them. The students are not imbibed with Sanatan values, there is no sense of belonging to the land. What you learn and what you are keenly interested are two different things. There is no sense of attachment, no bonds just a transaction of education learning alien concepts. This education leads to hollowness, emptiness, deep dis-satisfaction within and sometimes dis-illusionment in life. Some individuals become mentally disturbed after such education since it is not what they want or yearn for. Who do you give guru dakshina if indeed it helped you? So many flaws perpetuated in the name of modern education.
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14 years ago, construction workers accidentally uncovered a 1200 year old Hindu temple buried under the Islamic University of Indonesia. But what they found underneath has sent shockwaves throughout South East Asian Countries. On December 11th 2009, workers were digging the earth for laying down the foundation for a new library. And what they found, was this.

Yes, an ancient Hindu temple buried 10 feet below the ground. You see the lingam inside, yes this is a temple for Lord Shiva. Archeologists say all this was built at least, 1200 years ago. And it is not a regular temple, something is very very mysterious about this temple. As soon as you set eyes on it, you immediately realize that it has a strange design, there are 2 separate temples, and a weird, mysterious glass box in a corner.

Lingams usually have 3 parts - Circular, a smooth cylinder on top, Octagonal or 8 faceted mid-section and a Square with four sides at the base. But here, you can see that the octagonal mid-section is missing. It only has 2 parts - the top circle and the bottom square. Why did ancient builders deviate from the norms and create such a lingam? Because they wanted to remove the lingam from the base whenever they wanted. The octagonal part is usually carved to make the lingam firmly fit into the base and make it immovable. That’s why this lingam was not designed with the octagon.

When archeologists removed the lingam from this base or Yoni, they found something spectacular underneath, in this square hole. They found a stone box, and when they opened it, they were shocked. Inside was a complex stone plate, made of several cavities, they had never seen anything like this before. It had 8 large arrows carved, exactly aligned to the 8 different directions. And it also had 8 small rectangular cavities carved between the arrows. In the center, there was a perfectly carved circle. So, a total of 17 cavities.

Inside one cavity there was a thin gold foil, neatly cut and placed snugly in the cavity. In the next rectangular cavity, there was a thin rectangular silver foil placed perfectly. This continued with alternating foils of gold and silver, except 2 cavities in the East and North East. They were filled with oval bronze pieces. In the center there was a Gold foil with inscriptions in ancient Kawi Script. When they removed the gold foil, they found one more amazing artifact placed underneath. A circular plate made of pure gold, with arrows pointing in 8 directions, and a circle in the center.

Praveen Mohan in Indonesia YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQd2MwNtb4

0:00 Islamic University of Indonesia?
0:26 Temple Buried Under Muslim Structure?
1:34 Strange Lingam inside
2:54 A Stone Box Hidden Under Lingam?
4:16 Ancient Technology Found?
6:22 Was it Garbanyasa Ritual?
7:53 Secret Code in Silver Sheet
8:38 An Ancient Treasure Map?
9:36 A Clue to find more buried objects?
11:04 Another Ancient Machine Under Yoni
12:59 An Ancient Science Lab?
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The mistaken picture of India created by indices and statistics collected both by international agencies and by Indian government agencies; and if you listen to the end, you will find out how/when sex-selective abortion was introduced into India.

Talk by Sanjeev Sanyal:

https://youtu.be/20UZfX2xx1Q?si=bNKwyOoZB6BdUCp6
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Nalanda is a very ancient university and famed for students from all the over world. This university existed several thousands of years ago and established for everyone that India was the undisputed VishwaGuru for the world. Its destruction by islamic invaders (6 months for burning down its library and buildings) put an end to a glorious and civilized way of life. The emotions that stir up for people who give importance to education and scholarship is very powerful and daunting. How can something devastating happen to a place of pure learning. It takes a foreign woman from Sweden who has lived 10+ years in India to appreciate Bihar and learning in general.

When the rest of the world had no formalized universities of ancient-ancient times to speak of, one is perplexed by universities like Oxford, Harvard and Cambridge claiming preeminence in the world of today. Many of them stole knowledge from India and the current atmosphere is one of superciliousness, racism, fake narratives, wokism and haughtiness. Not at all are at the standards in which Nalanda operated.

The new Nalanda university on 450 acres of land is recreating the same institution of yore. It has students from other nations, the facilities are modern, a pleasure to behold. Rajiv Malhotra of infinity foundations is recreating the ancient books via Tibetian preservation of Nalanda books. The advanced topics and philosophy of scholars of highest repute who created massive amounts of original works cannot be matched in today's terms.

There are many unique firsts from Bihar for the world - Nalanda and Gautama Buddha to cite a few. I wish the politicos increase the pace of growth of the state and revive the beauty and originality of Bihar. Bihar stands at a place of unparalleled history and sacred traditions. Jitna he accha tha us zamane mein, ab utna he kharab hai sub bihari bolte. But we need not despair so much, pride in who we are is the first step to rejuvenation of past glory. India needs the originality of the Bihari to be revived soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl8pajmZ8aI
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Archaeological and Other Scientific Evidences About आदि शंकराचार्य Adi Shankaracharya’s Birth and Time (507-475 BC)
Lecture by Dr. Phanikanta Mishra, Director, Heritage Cell, Makaut, Kolkata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwE3mK28FkQ

Dr. P. Mishra provides other evidences like Shankara text mentions coins, pottery and other household items.

Adi Shankaracharya read the BrahmaSutra (of Ved Vyasa) and wrote his own commentary. People who can read and understand the BrahmaSutra are deemed as Acharyas. This has contributed to various theology practices based on Acharyas (Adi, Madhwa, Ramanuja) like Advaita, Dwaita, Vishishta Dwaita. Suffice to say they are all interpretation of their reading the BrahmaSutra text of Ved Vyasa.

BTW the BrahmaSutra is a compilation of the entire Vedas on the topic of Brahman. The BrahmaSutra covers the entire philosophy of the Brahman who is truly unknown, with no attributes, but involved in this universe as consciousness yet above it all. If you understand such a subtle construct, then you are aware of the Brahman and at the same time don't really know the Brahman - such contradiction which is the hallmark of Sanatan Dharma. There is nothing in this world that can ever match the concept of the Brahman, not the god as spoken in other religions. As a Sanatani we should be proud of such excellence in terms of proper foundation of spiritual lineage.

Previously I talked about dating of आदि शंकराचार्य Adi Shankaracharya here
Since Adi Shankarcharya was a venerated guru in Santana Dharm, there were other archaryas named after him, in fact at least 4 more per Kanchi Sources - Adi Shankarcharya, Kripa Shankarcharya, Ujjwala (Sarwajnatman) Shankarcharya, Muka Shankarcharya, Abhinava Shankarcharya.

Vedveer concludes that the birth of आदि शंकराचार्य is 568 BC and his death occurred 532 BC.
https://youtu.be/Co7DxdSZJKI
// It is very important to understand that आदि शंकराचार्य Adi Shankaracharya was around 500 BC not the stupid/moronic dates as given in Wikipedia/England/US, who have shallow scholarship and racist bent of mind. No sireebop you racist pigs/colonialists/commys/etc., it won't work with Modern India, please shove it.
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Harappan Civilisation | New Evidence Suggests Harappan Civilisation Is Old (8000 yrs old)

Researchers from Deccan College Pune along with the Central Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) have established that human remains discovered at an ancient site of Rakhigarhi – a village in the Hisar district of Haryana – date back around 8,000 years (6000 BC). The discovery has been made during the third phase of excavations carried out by the ASI along with various teams across the country, including researchers from Deccan College Pune. North Harappan culture is 2500 BC. Phase 1 digging at Rakhigarhi by Dr. Amarendra Nath of ASI and Phase 2, 3 digging at Rakhigarhi by Prof Vasant Shinde and others of Deccan College in Pune. Vedic life is now 8000 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFIXN6A0zvo

// no Aryan invasion - poor WItzels of the world are disappointed! Time to take all the dubious scholarship writing on AIT and celebrate a huge bonfire, Witzel can be the pastor of ceremony. Smear the ashes on face and body and become Lord Shiv bakth.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/modi ... -6kpr96jb3

No iron or steel beams have been used, only stone.

Soil from hundreds of Hindu holy sites across the country was transported and used in the foundation. Specially made, extra-durable bricks bear the imprint “Lord Ram”.

Construction of the temple represents one of the most significant events in the history of independent India.
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A campaign to weave clothes for deity in Ram Temple, change the status of artisans

Family were lucky enough to participate in this campaign.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFIXN6A0zvo

Evidence of "Harappan civilization" being 8000 years old. This is further back than the 5565 BC timeline for the MB, as per astronomical dating (Shri Nilesh Oak).
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It does make sense to me that Indus Valley Civilization (Harappa) - IVC (with its yet undeciphered script) should pre-date Sanskrit and Vedas (and Mahabharata story) as well. Sanskrit language and the Vedas are of the 5000 B.C. vintage or earlier and arose in the exact same geographic area of about 300 mile radius (approximately) . It is highly unlikely that a less rigorous script and language (of Harappa) would replace a pre-existing logical and precise Devanagari script and Sanskrit language. It is more likely (my opinion only) that Harappan civilization came before Sanskrit language. Very unlikely that a new script and language came about replacing a more sophisticated one, and then died out without any continuity. However, radio-carbon dating does provide accurate estimates of age (of bones etc.) which I believe put age of IVC in the 2500 BC range. So this dichotomy is a conundrum for me.
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Ram Mandir Inauguration: Mandir के गोलाकार गर्भगृह के पीछे क्या सोच? | Nripendra Misra

An amazing construction activity of Ram Mandir (all from voluntary donations from ordinary people - running into several thousands of crores) made of stone with no steel or concrete. An army of dedicated workers who put their everything into the activity with singular devotion and ardor for their Lord Ram. Such divine activity can be witnessed very rarely in the world and we are all blessed beyond any measure. Bharat is now under Ram Rajya and such glory will increase with time.

Please take your time to see this YT which will be well worth your time.
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Most of what we call as Indus Valley civilization is the peak of the civilization. The earliest linked sites are further west in areas around Baluchistan easily dated to 7000 BC which makes the civilization close to 10,000 years old.
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SriKumar wrote: 02 Jan 2024 07:06 It does make sense to me that Indus Valley Civilization (Harappa) - IVC (with its yet undeciphered script) should pre-date Sanskrit and Vedas (and Mahabharata story) as well. Sanskrit language and the Vedas are of the 5000 B.C. vintage or earlier and arose in the exact same geographic area of about 300 mile radius (approximately) . It is highly unlikely that a less rigorous script and language (of Harappa) would replace a pre-existing logical and precise Devanagari script and Sanskrit language. It is more likely (my opinion only) that Harappan civilization came before Sanskrit language. Very unlikely that a new script and language came about replacing a more sophisticated one, and then died out without any continuity. However, radio-carbon dating does provide accurate estimates of age (of bones etc.) which I believe put age of IVC in the 2500 BC range. So this dichotomy is a conundrum for me.
It's a mystery. The Ramayana and MB both describe a culture essentially centered around the Ganga and Yamuna. There is some material in the MB about Sri Balarama undertaking a pilgrimage along sites along the Saraswati river, and also trading with the Mlechchas to the west of the river. However, the astronomical dating indicates a date of ~12,200 BC for the Ramayana. And Nilesh Oak is claiming dates of before 25,000 BC for the Vedas!

Here's something interesting - if the date of 12,000 BC for the Ramayana is credible:

Superpowered solar storm around 12,000 BC.

Remember the Aditya Hridayam which Sage Agastya taught to Sri Rama? Sri Rama is said to have derived energy from the sun for killing Ravana by reciting this mantra. Anyways, the archaeological record has some catching up to do, to reconcile with such ancient dates (assuming the astronomical dating is true).
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Currently, the month of Margazhi is running in Tamil Nadu. This is technically the same as the Sanskrit name Mrigashiras (and associated months in other parts of India), but it is somewhat different. The difference is that TN (and Kerala) follow solar calendars, as opposed to lunar calendars in most of India.

During the month of Margazhi, in TN, Saivite girls recite the Thiruvempavai and Thirupalliyezhuchi, while Vaishnavite girls recite the Thiruppavai. Basically, in either case, there are 30 different verses, and a different verse is recited every day.

The Thiruppavai tradition dates back (according to current dating) to the 7th century, with the Alwar sage Andal. Andal is the only female Alwar out of the 12 Alwars, and she wanted to attain God (Vishnu) Himself as her husband.

The Thiruppavai consists of verses, where Andal goes around her town/ village collecting her female friends or cousins, waking each one up in turn, so they can go to the temple to fulfill their month-long vow. The significance is that she is waking up the world from slumber, to consciousness of God.

Today's verse is just beautiful, where she goes to the temple, and sings to wake the Lord (Vishnu) Himself from His slumber, so He can come to her! Here it is:

Thiruppavai 17.

Set in (Carnatic) ragam Kalyani. (I believe this is the same as Kalyan in Hindustani? Not sure).
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While we wait for the opening of Ram Temple at Ayodhya in Jan, 2024 let us give credit to ASI and K K Muhammad along with Prof B B Lal both of ASI. These gentlemen are true Indians who did their job honestly and stuck with their conclusions, regardless of all kinds of pressure. This is what is called Shraddha in sanskrit, a firm conviction that is unshakeable irrespective of all kinds of external pressure. When you have shraddha the Brahman is on your side and your karma is rewarded manifold times. The lying marxist historians like R. Thapar, Irfan Habib, etc are maha chors and the worst in human kind on earth. Owaisi continues with their lies.

FIrst excavations by ASI were in 1976-1977 at the site and they discovered so many things about an existing temple buried underneath.

K K Muhammad is an outstanding individual and he deserves another award from GoI (he has a Padma Shri). His work restoring the Bateshwar Complex in Madhya Pradesh is a magnum opus.

KK Muhammad quotes Allama Iqbal (patron saint of Pukes) : “Labrez hai sharaab-e-haqeeqat se jaam-e-hind/sab falsafi hain khitta-e-maghrib ke Raam-e-hind" meaning: the goblet of India is brimful with the wine of reality/The philosophers of the West only echo Hind's Ram.

Here are some YT interviews on excavations done at the site.

Ram Mandir | Archaeologist KK Muhammed Exclusive Interview On The Ram Janmabhoomi | News18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ag-gtMPZQ

K K Muhammad Exclusive Interview | Ram Mandir – Ayodhya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ividuJa-7Sw
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In Sattology, Aditya Satsangi explains geography and places in the Indo Pacific as mentioned in Ramayana. Places like Mount Meru, Lanka, Indonesia, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, Papua Guinea, Fiji, South America are all in play in Sugriva's search of Sita. He has published various books on this topic. This research is extremely useful to understand the texts of Ramayana. If you are interested in ancient knowledge of the world it is well worth your time to review the YT in detail. Simply suberb effort. These things need to be taught in Indian schools.

रामायण के प्रमाण पूर्व-प्रशांत में | Ramayana in Indo-Pacific | Aditya Satsangi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMQ37J9lwZA
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As Bharat enters its Golden Age ..

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The ‘Pran Pratishtha’ ceremony at Ayodhya’s Ram Temple is set to be held on January 22. Ahead of the consecration ceremony, the installation of Golden Doors in the ‘Garbh Griha’ has been completed. The Golden Doors in the ‘Garbha Griha’ of Ram Mandir is about 12 feet high and 8 feet wide. These doors have been installed on the ground floor of the sanctum sanctorum of Ram Mandir. A total of 46 doors will be installed in the Ram Temple, out of which 42 will be coated with 100 kg gold. Vedic rituals for the ‘Pran Pratishtha’ ceremony of Ram Lalla in Ayodhya will begin on January 16. PM Narendra Modi is set to attend the consecration ceremony of the Grand Ram Temple on January 22.

Installation of Golden Doors in ‘Garbh Griha’ of Ayodhya’s Ram Temple stands complete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaDGZx58-BI

// seeing this video brought tears to my eyes - just the grandeur of celebrating a Vishnu Avatar Lord Ram after so many years of trials and tribulations, destruction and wanton prevention of a faith stronger than this world. There is no other civilization on earth that celebrates life and its splendor with divine devotion, all by voluntary effort of so many ordinary citizens and the brahman given mandate to make it happen. We are all so blessed to see this during our lifetime which is a rarity in thousands of years.
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Jai Shri Ram जय श्री राम
अयोध्य राम मंदिर के महत्वपूर्ण


The Shri Ram mandhir is a testament to the enormous religious faith of India and other nations around the world. The legacy of Lord Shri Ram (Maryadha Purushotaman) is the living spiritual heritage of India and endures to this day. Ram mandir's rich cultural legacy will make Ayodhya as the spiritual capital of India and in some sense the world too. The collective spirit of the devotees, artisans, builders and enduring faith of ordinary citizens is the culmination of a stunning architectural achievement that occurs only in a thousand year period.

A sloka from Garuda Purana describes the seven places for achieving moksha in your lifetime:

अयोध्या मथुरा माया काशी कांची अवन्तिका |
पुरी द्वारावती चैव सप्तैता मोक्ष दायिका: ||
Ayodhya, Mathura, Maya (mayapuri or Haridwar), kashi (varanasi), kanchi (kanchipuram), avantika (Ujjain) and dwaravati (dwaraka); these seven cities are givers of moksha (liberation) (and futhermore are called mokshapuri).

Ayodhya is the first out of the seven important places for devout Hindus for spiritual liberation.

Ayodhya has been part of India's rich oral traditions through epic Ramayana. Ayodhya was the capital of legendary Ikshvaku kings of Kosala, including Shri Ram. According to Ramayana, Ayodhya was founded by Vaivasvata (another name for Surya Bhagwan, विवस्वान सूर्य भगवान का नाम हैं) Manu, considered the progenitor of mankind. Vaivasva Manvantar, is the current 7th Manvantar, next will be Savarni Manvantar (8th). Each Manvantar is 71 Mahayuga, each Mahayuga = 4 Yugas (Satva, Tritiya, Dwapar, and Kaliyug). Vaivasvata manu descended by Surya and Ikshvaku was son of manu. The dynasty ruled for a long time and some notable kings are Raghu 1 and Raghu 2. Shri Ram is referred as "Raghu vamsa sutha", meaning descendant of Raghu vamsa (lineage). The area of Ayodhya was around 12x3 yojanas in area, a yojana is roughly 9 miles. In both epics of Ramayana and Mahabharata, Ayodhya is described as the capital of Ikshvaku dynasty of Kosala that includes Shri Ram and his father Dasharath. The Purana-Pancha-Lakshana decribes the city of Ayodhay as capital of Ikshvaku kings and includes Harishchandra. Buddhist pali literature mentions Ayodhya as Saketa, new shravasti which is Ayodhya. Jain Prakrit language texts mention the city of Ayodhya as Saketa (Sageya or saeya in prakrit) as an important city of the Kosala Mahajanapada. In the south, the city is referred to as gokul. One Koshal Raja fought alongside the Kauravas against the Pandavas in Mahabharat war.

Gurjara-Pratihara is a dynasty that ruled northern India from mid 8th to 11th century. They ruled from Ujjain and later from Kannauj. The Gurjara-Pratihara were instrumental in controlling arab armies moving into east of Indus river. In a Gwalior inscription it is recorded that Gurjara-Pratihara ruler, Nagabhata crushed the large army of powerful Mlechcha king. Kannauj became the center of Gurjara-Pratihara state during the peak of their power c. 836-910.

Most temples of India conform to three architecture styles: Nagar, Dravid (south Indian style) and mitra style. The Brihadareswara temple in Tanjore is of Nagar style. The Maru Gurjara style of temple architecture in India, have 3 elevations: pitha, mandovara (main hall) and the shikhara. The whole temple stands on a khara-sila (elevated stand) which is similar to the jagati of Nagar temples. The shikhara at the base has a rathika bearing an image of deity. The curvilinear shikhara is topped by a massive amalaka over which the candrika (capstone) and kalasha are placed. The vigraha in the garbha griha is looking up to the shikara. Near the garbha griha is copper plate (which must not be stepped upon). Gudha mandapa: the roof of the mandapa is either phamsana ( Stepped-pyramidal) or samvarana (bell roof).

The temples made by Maru Gurjara dynasty include Somnath temple or Deo Patan, a hindu temple located in Prabhas Patan, Veraval in Gujarat, India. It is one of the most sacred pilgrimage sites for Hindus and is the first among twelve Jyothirlinga shrines of Lord Shiva. The original Shivling in Somnath Temple was kept afloat by two magnets and it would rotate slowly. No one knows exactly how a magnetically suspended system can rotate but the walls surrounding could be magnetic. The Konark temple, Odisha is also Nagar architecture, where the first rays of the sun over the sea shines upon the main Surya murthy in the morning. Some other examples of Maru-Gurjara temples include: 1. the Sun temple at Modhera, Gujarat dedicated to Lord Surya and located in Mehsana district of Gujarat, 2. the Girnar Jain temple on Mount Girnar near Junagadh is also Nagar style, 3. Ranakpur Jain temple or Chaturmkha dharana vihara is a svetambara Jain temple dedicated to Tirthankara Rishabhanatha, located in Sadri town of Pali district in Rajastan.

The original design of the Ram mandhir was devised by the Sompura family of Ahmedabad. Current chief architect is Chandrakant Sompura assisted by his two sons Nikhil and Ashish. Sompuras have contributed to the design of over 100 temples worldwide, including the Somnath Temple, over 15 generations. The current design went through certain changes in 2020 based on Vastu Shastra and Shilpa Shastra. The construction of Ram mandir is managed by the Shri Ram Janmabhoomi Teerth Kshetra Trust. The finances are wholly from contributions by ordinary folks (no govt money) and the cost for construction runs into thousands of crores.

The current Ram Mandir is designed in traditional Nagar architectural style with a Maru Gurjara sub style. The Mandir has length (in east-west) of 380 ft, width of 250 ft and height of 161 ft. It is 3 storied, each floor being 20 ft tall. Mandir has a total of 392 pillars and 44 gates. All the pillars and walls are decorated with statues and sculptures of deva, devi and other divine figurines as part of the Maru Gurjara style. Mandir platform or Jagati is from East side with 32 steps, the main entrance is called Sinhadwar. The Garbha griha will have Ram Lalla (child form). Shri Ram darbar will on 1st floor. 5 mandapas will adorn the temple - nritya mandapa, ranga mandapa, sabha mandapa, prathana mandapa and kirtana mandapa. The Dwajastamba is at the garbh griha and the Kalasha (filled with ganga water) is atop the Shikhara. In South India Dravid style the Dwajastamba is at Jagati area and the Kalasha is atop the Gopuram at the temple boundary wall entrance.

The temple is universally accessible to make sure elderly and physically challenged have proper and easy access. The Prakara or enclosure wall around the temple is a square measuring and 732 m and the width of the wall is 14 ft. The four corners will have temples dedicated to deity Sun, Bhagawati, Ganapati and Shiva. On the northern side of the temple is Annapoorna Devi Mandir. Southern side has Hanuman Mandir. Sita kund is part of the comples and has mythological significance. The mandir complex will have temples dedicated to Valmiki, Vashista, Vishwakarma, Agastya, Shabri and Devi Ahilya (Sati Ahilya, part of the Panchakanyas along with Draupadi, Kunti, Tara and Mandodari, the wife of Gautam Maharishi who was freed from her curse by the touch of Lord Ram’s foot). The ancient Shiv Mandir which was on site has been renovated with Navratna Kuber tile and in the southwestern section a statue of Jataya is installed. All Mandirs adhere to modern scientific knowledge and traditional Indian material were used.

The stone for the Mandir is brought from Bundelkhand, granite from Karnataka, marble from Makrana, Balua stone from Bharatpur, timber for doors from Ballarsha and masons from TN, Hyderabad and Odisha. Soil and river water is collected from various nations including Thailand, Nepal, etc., thereby making Shri Ram Mandir global in nature. Environment, water conservation and other norms are adhered by the building of mandir.

The above are excerpts from this YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhTlxXY_HXY
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vi@WA

I’ve never heard or read any American, British, French or German ever say,
“Now what would have Harry Truman, Winston Churchill, Charles de Gaule or Otto Bismarck thought about this event or person today?”

Whereas here, there is an entire industry of Prashant Bhushan, Ram Chandra Guha, Sagarika Ghose, Saba Naqvi etc that spends its time *imagining* what ‘Gandhijee’ would have said or done in hypothetical scenarios!


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They are the rudali brigade lamenting the loss of their cheese and wine days..........., and the vidhwa vilap continues...........
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What is the Importance of Ram Mandir to India and the World?
Is this the auspicious time or Muhurth for the Ram Mandir Pran-Prathistha?

3 Reasons WHY We Need Ram Mandir Now - every Indian MUST Watch this video by Swami Mukundananda. Swamiji has distinguished degrees in Engineering and Management from two of the world-famous Institutes in India, IIT and IIM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39wnJni_kg

Swami Mukundananda emphasizes that India is culturally bound by its rich spiritual foundation as in Vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Puranas, BrahmSutras, and much more as the basic underlying meaning in life and its outlook. When India has waited 500+ yrs for restoring Ram lalla back in Ayodhya, the time is now and not later. Well being is not just physical but the deep spiritual yearning within to be reunited with that Avatar of Vishnu which graced the land of Bharat. This is a deep emotional conviction in each denizen of Bharat Varsh which cannot be uprooted no matter how much India was subjected to destruction, mayhem and untold horrors. Getting back to the deep root means that the correct muhurt for good deed is immediate, now and cannot wait one bit. Establishment of Ram mandir will deepen the roots of the Bharat varsh culture and with the remembrance of Lord Ram, spiritual growth of people would take place manifold times.
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Mods, does the Ram temple consecration qualify for a thread of its own?

First photos of Lord Ram inside Temple

Arun Yogiraj, the sculptor of the idol (truly a blessed man).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep2zuoBcInU
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sudarshan wrote: 21 Jan 2024 22:26 Mods, does the Ram temple consecration qualify for a thread of its own?

I'm surprised it's not a new thread yet. This is a milestone for modern day Hinduism and nothing like this happened in the last few generations. It's crucial to document the history, current events, and public commentary on this momentous occasion.
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Jay wrote: 22 Jan 2024 00:14 I'm surprised it's not a new tread yet. This is milestone for modern day Hinduism and nothing like this happened in the last few generations. It's crucial to document the history, current events, and public commentary on this momentous occasion.
I did the honors, Inshamods the thread will persist and flourish.
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Real History of Bharat | Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan, Aadi Achint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqzMcCK8T0

Major Gen Rajiv talks about Kaal Chakra, Manvantara (which amazingly matches with current plate tectonics theory - entire world's landmasses coagulate together (super continents) around 300-350 million years and then break apart into continents. This has happened 7 times and we are currently in the 7th manvantara according to puranas!). The seven manvantaras are swayambhu, svarochisha, uttama, tapasa, raivata, chakshusha and vaivasvata. The corresponding 7 super continents are vaalbara, ur, kenorlan, colombia or nuna, rodina, pannotia and the current pangea.

Well worth your time to go through the entire YT and learn huge nuggets of history never mentioned before.
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I have always been curious if the name Jambudweep meant Bharat was originally just floating landmass before hitting the Eurasian plate …
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^^^
Saar per Pravara :
Jambudweepe Bharathakande Bharathvarshe
Gondwana probably refers to Jambhudweepa
And the Indian landmass broke up and rammed into Asia
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The remarkable story behind Jagannath Heritage Corridor Project - how the Odisha CM and Karthik Pandian, IAS, raised all the shanty structures, 75 m (agreed by the courts) around the temple structure and created a clean corridor for devotees. What courage and conviction to carry out this task to completion. They carefully studied the area with ground penetrating radar and consulted IITs for structural integrity of the temple during demolish.

The inauguration of Jagannath Heritage Corridor Project happened just before the Ram Mandir inauguration. I have been to the old Jagannath site many years ago and I appreciate the new parikrama around Lord Jagannath. BTW there is an ancient story of Vishnu Avatar, Sri Krishna leaving behind something back on earth and this thing is kept at Lord Jagannath temple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEpGeNo28tY

// I think this example should be used to clear out the encroachment around many temples in India. It is a pathetic sight to see shanty structures right up to the temple wall. So much commercial activities that ruin the cleanliness of the place. Keeping, say 75 m, around the temple free and clear of these encroachments is a must. In addition no vehicular traffic should be allowed near the temple. People should walk to the temple sans the pestilence of commercial activity and rubbish. Maybe have a car/bus adda outside the 75m and run quiet electric trolleys.
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I talked about Sri Krishna leaving behind something back on earth after he departed. Here is a YT explaining how it is housed in Odisha's Puri Jagannath temple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdus-MuXmc0
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संपूर्ण एशिया हिंदू है | जंबूद्वीप का रहस्य | Aditya Satsangi & Vedveer Arya

Western distortion in history is root cause of many places having wrong terms and some ludicrous assumptions. Human history stretches way back. The current North East - Assam, Tirpura, Manipur, etc was referred to the East of India and not North East. Many of these places were steeped in Sanatan Dharma. The Sindu-Saraswati area though originated many concepts in Sanatan Dharma, is not the only area that contributed towards the compilation of the Vedas, the entire Indian subcontinent was involved and contributed towards all the Vedas. The Rishis were in various places and their revelations is recorded in the Vedas. Rishi Krishna Dwaiypana (Ved Vyas) organized the Vedas into 4 - Rig, Sama, Yajur and Atharva. Tibetans were considered Indian not sino-tibetans. All their languages were Sanskrit. Uttara Kuru is current silk route from China via Xinjiang and Arjun secured this area, they used to pay taxes to India.

In South East Asia, Sanatan Dharma was the norm, buddhism came later, in fact, many buddhist temples were former Hindu temples. However the current scholarship in south east asia does not step back from buddhism. In Japan we see many hindu devas/devi renamed into Japanese. Same story in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Burma. In Buddhism, there is a divide between the Sino communist buddhist vs the rest. Also the west has introduced two buddhas - one from India, Bihar, gaya regions vs the nepal buddha. The original buddha is mentioned in Burmese text and their timelines correlate to 1700-1800 BC when buddha was on Earth. Around 880 BC buddhism arrived in China, and rest of South East Asia.

Ramayana went to south east asia around 2600-2800 BC. BTW south east asia includes south china too during those times. China does not want this fact to be revealed. Philippines has many statues, stone inscriptions in sanskrit which indicates Sanatan Dharma. There is a city in Papua called Jayapura and Garuda worship is still conducted to this day. The scripts like Thai, Cambodian, Tagalog are indian influenced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QLOF7J7IZ8

// we have to convert such knowledge into formal knowledge base. There are many Indic researchers (must be Indian) who have done yeoman work in various fields. All the old Indian history text (by Commys, leftists, etc) need to be thrown in the rubbish bin. A special national university must be created to collate and correlate such factoids and India needs to write the new history narrative. Any deviation from such narrative from others should be rejected. All new discovery is properly vetted by Indian researchers and the database is updated. Our own record keeping should be heavily used. All chronological dates require update. Entities like Wiki and Oxford/Cambridge/Harvard should be sent notices for wrong data/dates. Other nations like France and China strictly control the narrative on their history/culture/language. Even Buddhism should be a topic of deep study and we can co-opt the Tibetians/Burmese/Thais/Indonesia/Vietnam. India's leadership in these studies will be appreciated by South East Asia.
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Rakhigarhi & Sinauli Secrets, Mahabharata 'Evidence', Discredited Aryan Invasion with Dr. Sanjay Manjul

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylT47oUwCJ0

Dr. Sanjay Kumar Manjul is the Additional Director General of the Archaeological Survey of India. He has made significant contributions to Indian Archaeology, leading excavations in Rakhigarhi, Binjor, Barnawa, Sinauli, and Baghpat. The Sinauli findings, including the earliest known chariot, were highlighted as the "Discovery of the Century" at the National Museum of Modern Art, New Delhi. Dr. Manjul discusses indigenous techniques and the development of Indian urban society from the Early Harappan phase to the Late Harappan phase.

He explores new excavation techniques, the Indus settlement, and his perspective on the Mahabharata in an archaeological context. Dr Manjul delves into how culture, tradition, and belief systems impact cultural amalgamation and affinity towards the Mahabharata. He narrates the discovery of Sinauli, emphasizing the indigenous chariot's significance. It is 2 wheeled and has copper covering/inlays, a flag pole and all of this is the first in the world. He also touches upon conflicts between political and traditional scholars, critiques modified theories of Western scholars on Indian history. He also discusses the so called discredited Aryan invasion theory, contemporary civilization changes, surveys, and mythology. Bharat is the ancient civilization and today's sanatan dharma is a continuation of that civilization. Mahabharat and Ramayan are part of the history.

With discoveries like Dholavira, Rakhigarhi and Sinauli, it's time for history to be re-wtitten and re-told from Indian perspective.

00:00- Introduction
01:35- Excavation At Sinauli
10:08- Aryan Invasion Theory
14:25- Controversy After Sinauli Excavation
18:47- Mahabharata Mystery
27:06-Harappan Civilisation
33:18- Chariot At Sinauli Excavation
48:25-Inhabitants Of Sinauli
53:39- Excavation At Ambari
01:01:48- Vedic Literature
01:04:55- Western Researchers
01:11:00- Carbon Dating At Gyanvapi
01:14:27- Excavation Process
01:22:53- Time To Rewrite Our History books on India?
01:32:56- Archaeology as Passion
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This is a great YT on Indian History between two scientists, Prof Subhash Kak, Computer Science and Abhijit Chavda a physicist. Sadly in India, historians are all commies/socialist/brit colonized and don't do anything useful or original work, instead they keep status quo and foist upon students false narratives. Many educated Indians are learning about their past, are interested in Sanskrit and ancient texts. Rajiv Malhotra is trying to recreate the Nalanda library from Tibetian texts. The challenge for the Indian youth, is to relearn ancient text material in Sanskrit/other languages, do some deep research and create a corpus of narratives which are completely opposite to the academics in India. The GOI is an useless entity in providing any help to change the curriculum being taught in schools. India needs more Indian journals. India also requires a dedicated University which collects useful research and disseminates the work to students who can carry on the correct Indian narrative in History. Forget all the useless Britshit colonial junk and people like Witzels of the West. India needs to re-establish the narrative and co-opt other Indic nations who are highly interested in forging a path with their Indic past (Indonesia, Cambodia, Vietnam, Mongolia, Myanmar, Japan, non-CCP China, Philippines, etc).

Deep digging and scholarship by young Indians in various topics is needed, a University to collect/collate/disseminate knowledge.

Indian History: A Conversation With Dr. Subhash Kak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwcRP-QgbFI

Another aspect that needs immediate attention is Buddhism. The Western scholars who pretend to adopt Buddhist studies have created a huge wedge between Hinduism and Buddhism. There are two Buddhas - one the original Siddharth Gautama and another the Nepal version. They have also painted the Buddha as not accepting the Atma, ie. Anatma whereas the original Buddha did accept Atma. Dr. Ananda Coomaraswamy, a Sri Lankan, studied both and he concludes that Buddhism and Hinduism are no different from each other. The Thais perform Vedic rituals by inviting Brahmins from UP. Japan, worships many deva/devi that are the counterpart of Hindu Devas/Devis (Benzaiten - Devi Saraswati). Also Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia worship hindu deva/devi.
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