News - Osama Bin Laden - killed In Pakistan

[ramana]

RajeshA, In the 90s the TSPA created a policy that they would nuke India if they go down due to any factor. Sort of Mario Puzo's Godfather policy.

So there is no dilemma here.

[ramana]

R-man, Any peeps from usual suspects(Uneven Cohen et al) in duplicity?

[putnanja]

AoA! osama death brings about 72 ...... pages in this dhaaga ! wonder what osama is doing with 72 ................ raisins

[Johann]

From page 66 of this thread, Posted: 07 May 2011 12:44

I don't know why people find it so hard to believe that US acted unilaterally in Pakistan - it does it all the time.

Drone strikes used to be preceded by notification to the Pakistanis. That was abandoned when the program expanded, given the problems that it caused.

What the Americans have done is issue a blanket warning to Pakistan that they will hit targets in Waziristan whenever they have intelligence to back it without prior notification.

The Pakistanis hated the change, but they had to live with it, even as they complain about it both publicly and privately.

American special forces raids in to Pakistan have taken place on a number of occasions - there were confrontations with Pakistan in 2008 whenever they were detected.

The Americans got much more serious about doing things silently.

Pakistan has had to live with this as well, even as they hate it and complain about it privately.

Obama had said publicly as well as privately that it would act if it found intelligence. So in that sense, like the drone strike policy, Pakistan had a general notification well in advance. The fact that that they didn't take it seriously is another matter.

The Bin Laden raid was not different because it was deep in the heart of Pakistan, but because it was a black operation that had a 64 megawatt spotlight turned on it in the aftermath, a spotlight intended to both highlight Obama and America's triumph, and Pakistan's role in all of this. Not even drone strikes in Waziristan have such direct attribution by the USG.

This is what was truly new, and what PA GHQ was utterly unprepared for as much as the raid itself.

This is exactly what I was talking about above two days ago;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... istan-deal

"There was an agreement between Bush and Musharraf that if we knew where Osama was, we were going to come and get him," said a former senior US official with knowledge of counterterrorism operations. "The Pakistanis would put up a hue and cry, but they wouldn't stop us."

..But under the terms of the secret deal, while Pakistanis may not have been informed of the assault, they had agreed to it in principle.

[Nandu]

72 achieved. AoA!

[RajeshA]

RajeshA, In the 90s the TSPA created a policy that they would nuke India if they go down due to any factor. Sort of Mario Puzo's Godfather policy.

So there is no dilemma here.

ramana garu,

that is a policy fine on paper, for it deals with a scenario where somebody starts a full-scale denuking military action on them, or declares a full-scale war. But there are levels of conflict far below such an out and out war.

With Operation Geronimo USA has started incursions deep into Pakistan! With their relations going South, USA may decide to conduct more of such operations to apprehend or kill men on their list of most wanted.

India has been softened with repeated terror attacks and now whenever there is a terror strike we stop talking to Pakistan. Whenever there is a drone attack on Pakistan, a few politicians repeat a few verbal attacks on USA and life goes on as normal.

The next step is to jack up these incursions into Pakistani territory and to make Pakistanis accept them as a part of life.

[brihaspati]

Are'nt there already regime spokespersons from India making noises about the danger that "certain elements" in India may try to take advantage of the "situation in Pak" and that GOI/"party" is solidly behind extending "friendly hand" and support to "stabliize" the Pak system?

[Nandu]

Report (Declan Walsh): US and Pakistan had secret agreement that US could unilaterally go in to kill/capture Osama if he is found inside Pakistan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... istan-deal

[ramana]

Am closing the thread as it reached 72. Please continue in new thread.

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