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Another great discovery: The Department of Sanskrit at Hahvahd University is another place that is deeply interested in Riots in India: with the help of the Marxist Communist Comrades of Peaceful Democratic Nepal. Wonder what the common factor is? Hmmm! :?: :roll:


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Interesting reasoning.

And he was released.
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Over the course of many hours of debriefings, Fai provided truthful and helpful information with respect to some areas of inquiry, including the financing of the KAC by the ISI, and the use of straw donors by Zaheer Ahmad to arrange the transfer of ISI money to the KAC," Kromberg said.

“At least in part as a result of Fai’s information, one of the straw donors signed an agreement November 4, to plead guilty to a tax conspiracy involving asserting deductions for transfers to the KAC that were reimbursed by Ahmad in Pakistan. That plea agreement has yet to be entered in court.”

“As a result of Fai’s information, indictments were returned in the district November 7 against Abdul Akif, Saeed Bajwa, Javed Rehmat, and another individual who has yet to be arrested,” he added.

District Judge Liam O’Grady of Virginia, said in his order November 22, “Upon consideration of the government’s motion for reduction of sentence and... after having found that the defendant has rendered substantial assistance to the government, it is accordingly ordered that the government’s motion for reduction of sentence is granted.” O’Grady added, “This was a difficult case when it came before me for sentencing. Fai, although conflicted as to what he was doing, lost his way and took funds that he shouldn’t have, committed a serious offense.” Fai was arrested on July 19, 2011, for concealing the transfer of $3.5 million from the ISI to fund his illegal lobbying efforts that sought to influence the US government with regard to the Kashmir imbroglio. This was in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.


Here's the full document

Others who have been helping make India more secure (for the ISI)

More people interested in India's internal security

And more..


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PostPosted: 03 Mar 2014 19:58 
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Seek and Ye Shall Find! Investigative Team Report, United States of America vs. Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai

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The parties stipulate that the allegations in the Criminal Information and the following facts are true and correct, and that had the matter gone to trial the United States would have proven them beyond a reasonable doubt

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...1. From approximately 1990, and continuing thereafter until approximately July 18, 2011, in the Eastern District of Virginia and elsewhere, defendant GHULAM NABI FAI unlawfully and knowingly conspired with others to (a) falsify, conceal, and cover up material facts they had a duty to disclose by tricks, schemes and devices, in matters within the jurisdiction of the agencies of the executive branch of the Government of the United States, in violation of Section 1001 of Title 18 of
the United States Code; and (b) defraud the United States Department of the Treasury by impeding, impairing, obstructing and defeating the lawful functions of the Internal Revenue Service in the ascertainment, computation, assessment, and collection of the revenue.
2. The purpose of the scheme to conceal and falsify was to obtain money from officials employed by the Government of Pakistan, including the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate ("ISI"), for the operation of the Kashmiri American Council ("KAC")

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75. On March 15,2011, FAI sent an email to Butt advising him that an individual referred to here as "Mary" would be testifying in front of a United Nations working group. Mary is a human rights activist; Major General Mumtaz Ahmad Bajwa had requested that FAI introduce him to Mary in July 2009. The next day, Butt asked FAI to provide Butt with information about the hearing. On March 26,
2011, FAI responded to Butt's request with an email that described Mary's testimony before the U.N. working group. On March 28,2011, Butt wrote back to FAI with several questions, commenting that he needed additional information to "complete my update for elders." FAI knew that Butt was briefing FAI's information up his chain of command, and that his information had a greater audience than just Butt.


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PostPosted: 03 Mar 2014 20:13 
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What it shows is how discredited this Berkeley group is and someone who has more gravitas than me should point this out to the mandarins of Berkeley, as it risks tarnishing them. With three degrees of separation we get to Dan Burton. How lower can one sink?
It might be interested to look at whether visas have been granted to them prior to this year and to have them revoked. As for the resident gungadins, those with dual nationalities can be taxed or have their citizenship revoked a la Snowden.


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And what happened to end all this fun on July 18, 2011??

a) He was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on July 19, 2011, for concealing transfer of USD 3.5 million from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to fund his illegal lobbying efforts and influence the U.S. government on the Kashmir conflict in violation of Foreign Agents Registration Act.

b) Purely coincidental: At a San Francisco garbage dump:
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On July 19, 2011, Professor Angana Chatterji and Professor Richard Shapiro were suspended by the Academic Vice President (AVP) at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS).


TOTALLY COINCIDENTAL:
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Angana P. Chatterji, Brief on Human Rights Issues: Submission to a United Nations Working Group (Srinagar, March 2011), 11 pages.


Utterly coincidental:
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(Angana) Chatterji has served on human rights commissions, offered expert testimony on cases, testified at briefings and hearings, including to United Nations Bodies, the European Parliament Human Rights Subcommittee, United Kingdom Parliament, and United States Congressional Commissions and Task Forces. Chatterji co-founded the International People’s Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice in Kashmir with Parvez Imroz in 2008 and was its co-convener between 2008-2012. Between 2008-2012, the Tribunal documented human rights violations and witness/survivor testimonies related states of exception, disappearances, gendered violences, torture, extrajudicial killings, unknown and mass graves.
Groups and Associations:

Chatterji serves on the board of directors of Vasundhara. She has previously served on the advisory boards of the Kashmir Initiative at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University, and Green Institute, and the board of directors of the International Rivers Network, Earth Island Institute, and Community Forestry International.


Press Releases on the 800,000,000,000 rapes daily by the 1,700,000,000 Indian troops in Kashmir


And more concern for riots in India, specifically Orissa


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Most likely she was directly supended from the CIIS for consorting with FAI and the ISI. And doing their work without registering as a 'foreign agent'.
Further she is the most likely "Mary".
Looks like she is theri!*

*crooked.


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ramana, how CAN U? :eek: :((

The Free Biscuit Institute does not advertise impending arrests etc. So the July 19 2011 Fai-event must have come as TOTAL surprise to CIIS admins. So what they did on July 19 2011 HAD to be TOTALLY unconnected from ANYTHING to do with the ISI. The two visitors in the unmarked white car that parked next to a parking meter without paying a couple of weeks before, and the campus police just ignored them, were just there to check out the status of their Nuclear Attack Preparedness SOP* and have a chai-biscoot, nothing else.

*In case of nuclear attack, put your head between your knees and kiss ur a** goodbye


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http://www.ciis.edu/About_CIIS/Trustees.html

Dont understand how they got into FAIology of Cashmere.

Will ask them one of these days and how AC got the order of the boot.


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And a big thanks to all who worte on the LA Times article drivel and exposed the fallacy in it.

Including you Ralphy!


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Ramana: See under the url (b) above. Pretty-much confirms about the Effect Of Vijit-e-FreeBiscoots. But I personally agree with that protest: they should have had the guts to call a spade a spade and a paki a paki, instead of doing the equivalent of putting Jack the Ripper in jail for jaywalking. Wonder what was in the Settlement of December 2012, or Jan, 2013 - I saw something like that in the Wikipedia article.

Very troubling that the Faculty Panel confirmed the firing. Of course they were just Ass-osculate Dean wannanes.


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ramana wrote:
And a big thanks to all who worte on the LA Times article drivel and exposed the fallacy in it.

Including you Ralphy!


Ramana, are the comments now deleted? I see '0' comments there.


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Comments are still there. Need to muck around to enable the comments to be viewed.

The Swede, sleeping aid and Hari Om were on a roll.


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ok :)


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BTW, this CIIS group along with Steve Farmer's Eurasia review are all komrades-in-arms, and they do a lot of work for "under-represented" this and that and "community" organizin'. Here is a list (taken from https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Indo-Eurasian_research/conversations/topics/15506

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Affected MA and PhD students are of diverse backgrounds. The department has approximately 49% students 'of color'� and 68% that are LBGTQIQ identified, with, and many students from working class backgrounds. A significant majority of the students of the Department insist that their education continue with Professors Chatterji and Shapiro and demand administrative accountability.

Students in the Anthropology Department use their education and scholarship to focus on social activism around the globe. Students' academic and scholarly foci include:

�� Social and health disparities in the Watts community of Los Angeles, California

�� Education reform in communities of queer youth in California

�� Refugee rights in Southeast Asia

�� Enforced and involuntary disappearances in Afro-Colombian communities in Colombia

�� Feminization of labor and its effects on women's groups in Matagalpa, Nicaragua

�� Indigenous rights, militarization, and birthing issues :rotfl: in Israel-Palestine

�� Displacement and poverty in rural communities in Haiti

�� Gender politics in Afghanistan

�� Patriarchy and U.S. national policies

�� Mental health issues in the U.S.

�� Ecological sustainability in Brazil

�� Cultural politics of overseas charitable funding by U.S.-based Hindu nationalist groups

�� The prison industrial complex and the criminalization of immigrants in the U.S.

�� The constitution of indigeneity, cultural survival, and the role of scarcity in the U.S. Federal Recognition Process

�� Reproductive justice and youth advocacy in the U.S.

�� State violence against Roma communities in Europe


But absolutely zilch about Tibet, Xinkiang or Land of the pure. Pei Wu and Jessica Hsu Quien?

Quite suprising, or not, as they are komlades aftel arr!


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birthing issues
Hmmmmm!!!! There's clearly an issue here, no pun intended.
Reminds me of the story of the Admiral's Daughter and her new sailor bridegroom on their honeymoon, with the story that ends in
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WHAT! And fill the whole ******* house with brats????


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Reading the bios of all these openly Marxist and Socialist comrades (incl. one Snehal Singhavi at UT Austin now), they all have "community organizer" in their list of achievements. Only now do I understand the right wing rage in the US against that particular line in Obama's resume. Never had understood why they harped on it so much, or heaped as much ridicule on it.


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"Organizing a community" is part of Social Work curriculum. The projects are all worthy if done under somebody other than the agenda pushing ideologues like Dr. Chatterji and Dr. Shapiro couple.


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Follow up on DK Affair

Devyani Khobragade’s husband to join teaching faculty at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi
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WASHINGTON, DC: Devyani Khobragade scored a small victory in her ongoing diplomatic saga when her husband, Aakash Singh Rathore, was offered and subsequently accepted a job to teach at Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) in New Delhi, thus reuniting Khobragade with her husband and two young children.


Read in full for other details, some of which may be inaccurate.


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Post Devyani Khobragade affair, top US diplomat to visit India next week


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Nisha Desai Biswal, the Indian-origin US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, will visit Bangalore and New Delhi during March 4-6.

She will seek to broaden and deepen the bilateral relationship, which President Barack Obama has called "one of the defining partnerships of the 21st century".

"The breadth and quality of our strategic partnership with India attests to the underlying strength and salience of our relations," Ms Biswal said.

Ms Biswal had planned to visit India in January but the trip had to be postponed over the diplomatic row caused by the US arresting Ms Khobragade on visa fraud charges in December.

On March 4, she will meet government and business leaders in Bangalore to discuss joint efforts to foster innovation, increase hi-tech and engineering engagement, and strengthen economic ties.

From Bangalore, Ms Biswal will travel to New Delhi, where she will meet senior Indian officials to discuss the full range of bilateral and regional issues, including shared defence, security, and economic engagement across the Indo-Pacific corridor, the State Department said.

On March 6, Ms Biswal will deliver remarks on the US-India economic relationship at the American Centre in New Delhi.

"The United States is proud to partner with India on virtually every field of human endeavour, from innovative solutions to poverty and disease to space exploration, from counter terrorism and security cooperation to higher education and people-to-people ties," Ms Biswal said.

"I look forward to discussing these and other issues that are vital to the well-being of our two peoples," she said in a statement.

"She is going to meet the government officials, and it is - mostly the focus is on the economic cooperation and all," State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki said.


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US wants to repair relationship with India after diplomatic spat

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"The Secretary (John Kerry) is sending with her (Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Nisha Desai Biswal) a message that this relationship is important," State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said on Monday.

Biswal, the Indian-origin US diplomat, is on her maiden trip to India in her current position during 4-6 March.

"We want to move past disagreements we've had because we have so many issues that are important for us to work closely on. So that is the purpose of her trip. But obviously, she has an expansive itinerary while she's there," Psaki said. During the trip, Biswal would be travelling to Bangalore and then to New Delhi.



Another Visit by US Official.

India hardens stance against U.S. protectionism ahead of visits

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U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz is also due to travel to India next week. His visit was also postponed because of the diplomatic row.


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In fact it was in USA where the whole 'spat' occurred, not in india. It is USA that hasn't ratified international diplomatic treaties and it is in USA that litigation is still ongoing. So what will Indians need to do here to 'repair' what is going on in new York which is surely an 'international' more than bilateral issue.


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That's because India doesn't have a Putin to say
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U broke it u fix it

The GOI hasn't even moved against the scofflaw American Embassy School!!!


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Bluff on Patents - Business Standard

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From Bangalore, Ms Biswal will travel to New Delhi, where she will meet senior Indian officials to discuss the full range of bilateral and regional issues, including shared defence, security, and economic engagement across the Indo-Pacific corridor, the State Department said.


I hope these senior officials are of equivalent rank. Reciprocity should be maintained.


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Meanwhile... India helps US economy to reduce trade deficit by boosting US *orn sales


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http://www.rediff.com/news/column/rajee ... 140303.htm

The time will come when America can dictate to India, and expect to be obeyed :shock:
' Rajeev Srinivasan

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Thus, it is a matter of great concern when Americans want to fix India. Much of the time, India is peripheral to the US foreign policy establishment, except when they are annoyed with it (as in the Nixon-Kissinger days) or they are trying to sell some snake oil to it (as in the much-ballyhooed case of the 'nuclear deal', which was, to digress for a minute, a selling out of India's national security in exchange for virtually nothing).In fact, India does much better when it is not on the radar of America's self-styled do-gooders.Therefore, it is alarming that a group at the University of California, Berkeley's business school is toiling on a project to 'create a policy and protocol framework for protecting people's rights in situations of internal armed conflict and mass violence' in India.Which is amazing, considering that there is less violence and conflict in India than in any of the countries mentioned above, and that, anyway, there has been low-level insurgencies in India for decades.

This leads me to wonder, does the Berkeley group know something that the rest of us don't?
The context, of course, is that there have been persistent rumours that the US has 'assets' high in the Indian government. The long-sustained (but just-lifted) boycott of Narendra Modi (allegedly because a group of leftists and Muslims in the US were upset) is another indication that the US does have an interest in the 2014 Indian election: They do have a dog in this fight.There is also the surprising and widespread white noise in support of the Aam Aadmi Party by such establishment stalwarts as The New York Times and The Economist, among others. It is hard, prima facie, to believe the Americans would genuinely embrace a self-proclaimed anarchist group with far-Left views on almost everything. Nevertheless, there they are, with their front foundations merrily giving away all sorts of awards and money to the AAP.This fits in with an observed tactic on the part of the West to encourage leftist, nihilist dissident groups in other countries. It is rather evident by now that a Narendra Modi-led government would not be particularly easy to bribe or manipulate -- it does appear that he neither forgives nor forgets -- and that it would be, as with Shinzo Abe's administration in Japan, prone to care about the national interest, not America's.
This, of course, is anathema to the American world view based on George Kennan's Cold War views on hegemony.Thus, as a first approximation, a plausible American tactic would be to try and prevent the Bharatiya Janata Party and Modi from coming to power by splitting the anti-Congress vote using the AAP, and in case that fails, to follow up with a Plan B to make India ungovernable, to create mass conflict through their agents.This is not theoretical: ..The concern about the Berkeley group is magnified if you look at their Web site. Grandly claiming that an aim of this 'Armed Conflict Resolution and People's Rights Project' is to 'engage with affected communities, and periodically engage with members of the Government of India,' it identifies J&K, Manipur, Chhattisgarh, Punjab, and specifically Gujarat and Odisha as having been 'impacted by far-reaching violence on minority communities in recent history.'In other words, the usual anti-Modi rhetoric about the Gujarat riots in 2002, with a few other topics thrown in for the sake of camouflage. Old wine in new bottles.

The impression that there is more to this group, attached to the Haas School of Business at Berkeley, than meets the eye, is strengthened by a perusal of the list of principals. One is a notable purveyor of anti-India ideas, who was implicated in the Faigate scandal as an unregistered lobbyist for Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence. Another is now out on bail on charges of embezzling funds from victims of violence. Another is attached to the Lawrence Berkeley National Labs, which deals with nuclear weapons!Many of the others are old war-horses from the FOIL (Forum of Indian Leftists which transmogrified one fine day into the Forum of Inquilabi Leftists), a group that is reflexively and viscerally opposed to many things in India, especially to right-leaning Hindus.There are enough people with a known history of antipathy to Modi in this group to strengthen the impression that this whole thing is another exercise for Modi's benefit.What is particularly sinister is that there is circumstantial evidence that seems to indicate that people like FOIL have, in the past, 'known' about certain events before they happened. Which, by Occam's Razor, would suggest that these events were not random, but were planned, and that the leftists were in the know.Are they planning to just study conflict, or is there more?Furthermore, if the objective is to study conflict, why does the focus lie entirely on India, with almost all the members of the working group being of Indian origin?
As I pointed out above, there is actual armed conflict in many other places right now, so why India alone?The implication is that this group may well be witting or unwitting participants in a conspiracy to create violence in India.There is an implicit American project going on regarding India anyway: Many American maps show the entire North-East detached from India, in addition to all of Jammu and Kashmir. There has been much pressure on India to give away the Siachen Glacier to Pakistan.And given the fact that India has now become the biggest buyer of American arms, the time will come when America can dictate to an Indian government, and expect to be obeyed.It looks as though the Berkeley group may be planning to add internal pressure as well to the mix to discomfit an Indian government. This is a matter of serious concern, and it is not too far-fetched to consider this a conspiracy to overthrow a future Indian government. In my book, that would be considered seditious, and it should be treated accordingly.


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Indo-US dialog Yahoo groups has full text of Neha Biswal's speech prior to her trip. Good effort and all the right words but lacks credibility as she has hardly any clout.
Political appointee overseeing hard nosed SD officials in Delhi.
One show of capability would be to transfer the whole crew involved in the Sangeet Richards family trafficking visa case.
To have them lingering in Delhi as walking ghosts does no one any good.


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X-Posted from TSP thread. looks like civilian aid to TSP is being cut to please India. Would be better if military aid is also cut.

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US plans $280 mn military aid to Pakistan, cuts civilian aid - The Hindu

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Arguing that Pakistan will remain a key player in counter terrorism post-2014, the U.S. has proposed $280 million in military assistance to the country, although it wants to cut civilian aid in an effort to acknowledge India’s concerns about misuse of the funds.

Marred by financial constraints, the Obama administration has proposed to substantially cut civilian aid to Pakistan to $446 million for the next fiscal year as against $703 million in 2013, which among other things the State Department argued aimed at improving ties with India.
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Under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) category, the U.S. maintained $280 million in military aid to Pakistan for the fiscal year 2015 beginning in October 2014.

Given the ongoing transition in Afghanistan and continued terrorist attacks against civilian and military targets throughout Pakistan, FMF is essential to Pakistan’s efforts to increase stability in its western border region and ensure overall stability within its own borders, the Department said.

“The $280 million Pakistan requests will enhance the Pakistan Army, Frontier Corps, Air Force, and Navy’s ability to conduct counter insurgency (COIN) and counter terrorism (CT) operations against militants throughout its borders and will improve Pakistan’s ability to deter threats emanating from those areas, and encourage continued U.S.-Pakistan military-to-military engagement,” the State Department said.



What about the rumored US F-16s from Jordan being passed on to Fizzileya?


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Another CIA front
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semp ... work-.html

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The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a Washington D.C-based quasi-governmental organization funded by the U.S. which boasts that it is "supporting freedom around the world."


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The NED was the chief pillar of a plan by then President Clinton to get rid of Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic. The plan, developed by the CIA, was intricate and comprehensive. Basically, it was to work through the NED’s two subordinate wings, the International Republican Institute (IRI) and the National Democratic Institute (NDI) as well as the Center for International Private Enterprise, an offshoot of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The IRI would focus on dissident students while the NDI would work closely with different opposition parties. The State department and the U.S. Agency for International Development would play the leading role in channeling funds through commercial contracts and nonprofit groups. Under the authority AID, other money would be funneled to opposition groups and the mayor of opposition cities.

Because of their freedom of travel and their ability to move in closed off areas, the CIA recruited the staff of the NGOs, mainly relief agencies and human rights groups, which produced a great deal of useful intelligence. According to former CIA official, such recruitment was done very selectively. We didn’t want the organization discredited or people killed nor could they be seen as foreign vassals,” said a former official of the agency’s Directorate of Operations. Another agency official said, "There was a lot of reluctance in this area.”

The proposed coup against Milosevic had to be “very tightly controlled from the beginning, middle and end. You had to support one group against another group; you helped people who were going to help you,” one said.

So the Clinton plan was to use covert/overt, insider/outsider elements simultaneously, which meant employing NGOs in coordination with sophisticated espionage.



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But talking recently to former CIA and other intelligence officials, they see nothing in the Ukraine that provides any reasonable pretext to whip up ignorant mobs there who talk democracy but who behave like thugs. A former deputy chief of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, once a backer of NED, now sees it with distrust, its ambitions “too imperial,” manifesting the U.S. obsession with meddling with other countries internal affairs. Remember what Helvey said of his program, ““is not ethical. It is not pacifism. It is based on an analysis of power in dictatorship and how to break it by withdrawing the obedience of its citizens and the key institutions of society.”

Were such methods required in the case of the Ukraine? You tell me.


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Indo-US dialog Yahoo groups has full text of Neha Biswal's speech prior to her trip.

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So the Hon'ble Judge sits on her judgment on the legality of DK's arrest - even after the UN has made a statement that the envoy enjoyed UN-mandated immunity during the time of her arrest and custodial rape. And meanwhile, it's becoming business as usual and the tax fraudsters in the School go scot-free.

It's obvious some behind the scenes deal has been struck. One hopes the Babu's didn't drop the ball at this late hour on pressure from the politicos.


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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2014 06:12 
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After reading all the in depth stuff with respect to the Haas School and its "project" I come to the conclusion that can be summed up with one word: "hubris".

If Amir Khan mandarins think that they can lead a revolution in India with storm troopers like the A**hole "Mary" then they should go and live in Pakistan. BTW do folks here know that one of Mary's best friends in India is the big "bindi" lady who goes by the name of Brinda Karat? I don't have a link right now but pre-2004 Mary when to Orissa to foment some trouble and a group of angry villagers "gheroed" her and her chums. She had to send an SOS to the big bindi lady to rescue her.

I personally think this group can do Jacksh!t apart from writing drivel in some obscure publications which are not read by the vast majority of both the "slave-owning high caste Hindus" and the "slaves" themselves. Meanwhile even the venerable NYT is coming the the "sad" conclusion that a significant section of Muslims will vote for Modi in this election!


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The problem with FOIL types is the asymmetry in narrative that the western media is clever enough to engineer. These FOIL types are Marxists who will also denounce US policies, society, and governance. But western media will never cover that, and it will be in some obscure magazine that no one except dissenters read. However, for opinions on India, these worthies will be interviewed and quoted by NYT, WSJ etc. If Indian journalism were independent and had any self-respect, they would do the same. Interview the dissenters like Chomsky (and presumably Shapiro, Mary's partner) for all Bhest-related issues, and interview mainstream Indian thinkers for Indian issues. And they should also remove any off-topic reference the Chomsky's might make about other countries and stay on topic: a general sense of western incompetence and criminality, just as western reporters will do to the FOIL crowd. But since Indian journalism is full of sepoys and chowkidars, they will parrot what NYT and WSJ do, which leads to a lopsided narrative.


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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2014 06:47 
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The Orissa Caper: Red Badge Of Umbrage

I found that on a cached page titled: "Hate Mail and Adverse Responses to the Work of Angana Chatterji"

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Hatemail and Adverse Responses to the Works of Angana Chatterji
Websites, Blog, Online Forums

2005: IntelliBriefs: Angana Chatterjee and Uncle Sam's round-tables on proselytization
Anti-Chatterji Blog on Blogspot
Online Petition Against Angana Chatterji
August 2008 UN Letter on Offstumped Blog


Articles

Komerath, Narayanan. 2005. Red Badge of Umbrage. India Varta, July 1. http://www.ivarta.com/columns/OL_050701.htm
Saja, Ari. 2008. CAG Diva wins IMC's Tippu Sultan Genocide Award. India Forum, November 12. http://www.india-forum.com/indian_polit ... award.html

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Category: Angana Chatterji


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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2014 07:01 
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He was truly a ninja. Too bad he doesn't post here anymore.


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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2014 07:11 
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Pretty sad for the Comrades if THAT is all they can find as "hate mail". :rotfl:


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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2014 07:17 
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UlanBatori wrote:
The Orissa Caper: Red Badge Of Umbrage

I found that on a cached page titled: "Hate Mail and Adverse Responses to the Work of Angana Chatterji"

Quote:
Hatemail and Adverse Responses to the Works of Angana Chatterji
Websites, Blog, Online Forums

2005: IntelliBriefs: Angana Chatterjee and Uncle Sam's round-tables on proselytization
Anti-Chatterji Blog on Blogspot
Online Petition Against Angana Chatterji
August 2008 UN Letter on Offstumped Blog


Articles

Komerath, Narayanan. 2005. Red Badge of Umbrage. India Varta, July 1. http://www.ivarta.com/columns/OL_050701.htm
Saja, Ari. 2008. CAG Diva wins IMC's Tippu Sultan Genocide Award. India Forum, November 12. http://www.india-forum.com/indian_polit ... award.html

Related Information

Works of Angana Chatterji

Category: Angana Chatterji


OK the Ninja has got the incident which I was talking about from memory. It was one sure c##kup for the Red Brigade and Mary. BTW I propose whenever we talk about the venerable do-gooder here we should call her Angana Mary Chatterji.


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PostPosted: 06 Mar 2014 08:32 
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Note that the Orissa caper was in June 2005. Orissa was pretty peaceful then. By 2008 there were large-scale riots in Orissa. If you check Kashmir, there too the visits by A. Mary C. preceded big violence. Coincidence, no doubt.


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