Re: Indo-UK News & Discussion 9th Aug 2011
Posted: 02 Mar 2012 13:59
no visa is required if you are changing flights within the same airport
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Dunno lal mullah. One of my relatives who was in the IAD/ Parole period got into this transit visa mess. She was flying BA (serves her right!) and when flying out from US , there was no problem, she transited through Heathrow, but while going back, BA in Bangalore did not allow her boarding because she didn't have a transit visa! There was no time for her to apply for one in the UK consulate in Chennai, so she flew back to the US in another airline after forfeiting the return leg on BA!no visa is required if you are changing flights within the same airport
Mullah, the UQ shylocks have something called Direct Airside Transit Visa, which covers just what you talked about, changing planes and not clearing immigration at all.potentially your relative had a ticket which required a change of airports, thats the only thing i can think of, and possible for flights to the US. normally if you are changing flights you wont come anywhere near an immigration counter.
You transit the UK airside if you arrive here on a flight, remain in the arrival lounge of the airport without passing through UK immigration control, and then depart on another flight from the same airport.
The UK government operates a DATV system for some countries. These countries are listed under 'More information' below.
She should sue BA because they missold her a ticket and then denied her access. To be honest BA staff in India - desis for the most part - are overzealous in their duties and annoy me.
Once again, astounding that India's space programme finds mention on the subject of British aid. If the British are so concerned about what they feel is wastage or misuse of money, why not criticise luxury imports( including from the UK!), corruption, project delays, and money in Swiss banks? This is at least the 4th time I've heard some Brit refer to the space programme. Why don't they ask "When is India going to get back all that cash in Swiss accounts, which could be put to productive use in India"? If they're really concerned.RajeshA wrote:Aid Charade: UK wants 'peanuts' back: RT
The usual chatter against space program of little brown people means that something is going well with the space program of little brown people. Though chatter is secondary, primary concern should be well done space program of little brown people.Lalmohan wrote:they're concerned that they are being overtaken by little brown underlings
Singha wrote:in service of birtish masters...might be useful to r&d the other contributors
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/econom ... 77812.html
Despite "impressive" achievements in various sectors in recent years, India is unlikely to be a superpower and in fact, should not aspire to become one, a study by the London School of Economics (LSE) has concluded.
The study, titled 'India: The Next Superpower?', recalls and dismisses US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's statement made during her visit to India in 2009 that "I consider India not just a regional power, but a global power".
The LSE study comprising essays by nine experts in the areas of India's economy, defence, government, culture, environment and society advises "caution in assessing India's claim to superpower status".
Ramachandra Guha, currently the Philippe Roman Chair in History and International Affairs at the LSE, argues that it is doubtful whether India should seek to become a superpower.
He cites seven reasons why India will not become a superpower.
These are: "The challenge of the Naxalites; the insidious presence of the Hindutvawadis; the degradation of the once liberal and upright Centre; the increasing gap between the rich and the poor; the trivialisation of the media; the unsustainability, in an environmental sense, of present patterns of resource consumption; the instability and policy incoherence caused by multi-party coalition governments", he writes.
Listing India's several achievements that prompted predictions and ambitions in some quarters about India being the next superpower, the study goes on to discuss several challenges that are likely to prevent India from realising such ambitions.
It says: "Still, for all India's success, its undoubted importance and despite its undisputed potential, there is cause for caution in assessing India's claim to superpower status.
"India still faces major developmental challenges. The still-entrenched divisions of caste structure are being compounded by the emergence of new inequalities of wealth stemming from India's economic success".
The study adds: "India's democracy may have thrived in a manner that few ever expected, but its institutions face profound challenges from embedded nepotism and corruption.
"India's economic success continues to come with an environmental cost that is unsustainable".
Moreover, the study says that India has pressing security preoccupations, but sees the country continuing to play a constructive international role in, among other things, the financial diplomacy of the G20.
"(It) certainly has a soft-power story to tell as a model of liberal political and economic development.
"Perhaps even more significantly, the cultural impact of Indian cuisine, literature, films, music and sporting events will increasingly be felt globally through and beyond India's vast diaspora", the study says.
It adds: "Yet the hopes of those in the West who would build up India as a democratic counterweight to Chinese superpower are unlikely to be realised anytime soon".
Besides Guha, other contributors to the study are Rajeev Sibal, Iskander Rehman, Nicolas Blarel, Oliver Stuenkel, Harish Wankhede, Mukulika Banerjee, Andrew Sanchez and Sandeep Sengupta.
the unsustainability, in an environmental sense, of present patterns of resource consumption
The above quotes are interesting especially since India is being compared to China by these 'eminent' analysts. So, according to these analysts, is China's economy sustainable, 'in an environmental sense'?"India's economic success continues to come with an environmental cost that is unsustainable".
One should be very careful, these guys are no uneducated bystanders. Now there is a chatter against Hindutva- then what else- just so that some straw-men could be set up later when needed the most. All one has to be is create a biased look and then put some lies to make that person look neutral at the best in a biased set up = put Hindus away from hierarchy without reason. Voila, entire nations is structured well for lackys to do their job.johneeG wrote: I would have been surprised if there would have been no reference to Hindutva.
What an argument though! Hindutva in a Hindu majority country will hinder the progress! WoW! BTW, do these worthies remember the comment of Brit PM who declared(or perhaps, re-emphasized) that Britistan is a christian nation. What do these guys have to say about that hindering the Britistan progress?
I sometimes wonder why they hold such hatred towards Hindus and Hinduism. I really would like to know what is their real problem. Is it just money? Is it something about family background? What is it? These people with Hindu sounding names hating everything remotely related to Hinduism offering their services(of bashing Hindus) to every Tom, Abdul and Harry.
The interesting thing is that they never mention other areas of Indian technological advancement, like the nuclear programme, the missile programme, the warship building programme, the supercomputer programme, alternative energy et al. India is quite developed, in a few select technologies, more developed, than the UK in all these categories. But it is the space programme alone that is the focus of their censure. They must be deeply( though secretly) affected by India's impressive success on a shoestring budget.The multiple launches of foreign satellites and the first time success of the moon mission must have astonished them. They really do feel India is unreservedly ahead of them in this one industry. Hence the non-stop whining.vishvak wrote:The usual chatter against space program of little brown people means that something is going well with the space program of little brown people. Though chatter is secondary, primary concern should be well done space program of little brown people.Lalmohan wrote:they're concerned that they are being overtaken by little brown underlings
Seriously, who chatters against space programs?
They would need toThe interesting thing is that they never mention other areas of Indian technological advancement, like the nuclear programme, the missile programme, the warship building programme, the supercomputer programme, alternative energy et al. India is quite developed, in a few select technologies, more developed, than the UK in all these categories. But it is the space programme alone that is the focus of their censure. They must be deeply( though secretly) affected by India's impressive success on a shoestring budget.The multiple launches of foreign satellites and the first time success of the moon mission must have astonished them. They really do feel India is unreservedly ahead of them in this one industry. Hence the non-stop whining.
Saar,Varoon Shekhar wrote:
The interesting thing is that they never mention other areas of Indian technological advancement, like the nuclear programme, the missile programme, the warship building programme, the supercomputer programme, alternative energy et al. India is quite developed, in a few select technologies, more developed, than the UK in all these categories. But it is the space programme alone that is the focus of their censure. They must be deeply( though secretly) affected by India's impressive success on a shoestring budget.The multiple launches of foreign satellites and the first time success of the moon mission must have astonished them. They really do feel India is unreservedly ahead of them in this one industry. Hence the non-stop whining.
johneeG wrote: Saar,
I think Nuke prog. and Space prog. have a lot of propaganda value for a nation. Even a layman would be impressed by these two prog.s. I think, this is the reason for the takleef towards these two prog.s.
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Frankfurt & Paris will let you transit from US to India even if you have no US visa stamp without transit visa. Heathrow is the height of pakiness here. Friend in univ needed transit visa(55 pounds) when he flew during summer break, with a valid F1 stamped on his passport.Sriman wrote:Correct. Ditto with Frankfurt and Paris. Brussels has no issues.putnanja wrote: That is the catch. You need to have a valid US visa to transit at Heathrow. If you are a H1b holder, with a valid H1b but with say no stamp in passport(F1->H1 conversion, common case), or if your previous H1b stamp in passport has expired, or if you using Advance Parole(with no stamp in PP), then you can't transit through Heathrow.
Am reminded of a statement by Cameron in the floor of their parliament - something to the effect of saying Britain has always punched above its weight and will continue to do so - this was followed by a resounding hear hear . So it does look like a national trait these lot have - haughtiness and showing off.Varoon Shekhar wrote: Well said! The fact that India's space programme is NOT a statement or a showing off( unlike China's for example) does not occur to their parochial minds. It's very much civilian, developmental, infrastructural and scientific oriented, with a minimum of symbolism.
I think India will administer last and final punch. dher aaye, dhurust aaye...Singha wrote:I have a feeling the first slap will be administered by Brazil not India against the UK. unlike india, the brazilian elites and media are not in thrall of the UK.
p.s. if you dont count brazil banning vessels from the malvinas as a slap.
That is the catch. You need to have a valid US visa to transit at Heathrow. If you are a H1b holder, with a valid H1b but with say no stamp in passport(F1->H1 conversion, common case), or if your previous H1b stamp in passport has expired, or if you using Advance Parole(with no stamp in PP), then you can't transit through Heathrow.Correct. Ditto with Frankfurt and Paris. Brussels has no issues.[rankfurt & Paris will let you transit from US to India even if you have no US visa stamp without transit visa. Heathrow is the height of pakiness here. Friend in univ needed transit visa(55 pounds) when he flew during summer break, with a valid F1 stamped on his passport.
Lalmohan wrote:my assumption is that since US (and others) apply high punitive charges to airlines carrying non-visa passengers to the US and the numbers transiting via UK to US were high, BA was hit with large charges in the past - i have been told so by check in staff before. to avoid that cost they have gone paqui with transit visa issues
Not everyone are convinced by those psudo-analysisHari Seldon wrote:x-postng from the psy-ops dhaga in the burqa forum
Singha wrote:in service of birtish masters...might be useful to r&d the other contributors
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/econom ... 77812.html
The paper’s list of why-nots goes on, but there’s no mention of an important factor, one that is unquestionably skewed in India’s favour and will, by contrast, bog down China: demography.
And even if one disregards population, the argument that India’s domestic headaches will keep it from soon reaching its superpower potential remains unconvincing. “Those are obstacles that other nations have experienced during their concomitant rise on the world stage,” Nilanthi Samaranayake, an analyst at Center for Naval Analyses, told me in an quick email exchange about the LSE paper. She added: “I see little reason for India to be held back strategically while it addresses the internal challenges that all nations have.”
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In his most eye-catching proposal, Cameron will announce that the Treasury and Department for Transport are to carry out a feasibility study looking at using private-sector funds to improve and maintain trunk roads and motorways.
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