Eastern Europe/Ukraine

vivek_ahuja · Post by **vivek_ahuja** » 01 Mar 2014 10:40

Russian tanks and troops near Sevastopol...

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 10:43

I think rather than just breaking off Crimea only, Russia should encourage multiple break ups of Ukraine, to keep Mainland of Ukraine occupied and also legally unable to claim Crimea.

If Gas supplies are cut off by Ukraine, then Russia should create trouble in Middle East, so that hike in Crude Oil prices will compensate for the loss.

vivek_ahuja · Post by **vivek_ahuja** » 01 Mar 2014 10:48

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 01 Mar 2014 11:20

Putin may be over reaching himself by going for the hard option "premature" at this stage IMO.

He should set up rabble rousing bands on the streets of Sevastopol and prevent and Ukrainian police or ministry from functioning in a meaningful fashion in eastern Ukraine. A provisional govt should be set up in Crimea which should decleare itself independent like Abkhazia and then absorbed into Russia in due course of time.

But perhaps they know something we do not. With the Black sea fleet in Crimea they perhaps do not want to take chances with the imprtant sea port.

He is perhaps looking at a sceanrio wherein Western Ukraine will be absorbed by NATO and eastern Ukraine will form a buffer for Russia.

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The helicopters look to be MI-35 gunships.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 11:52

I think the Russians are not thinking of any breakup of Ukraine , They are binded by 1994 agreement like the West to uphold Ukraine Sovereiginity.

Even the deposed president mentioned yesterday that he did not expect any military help and wanted Ukraine united.

The armed men seen at airport are the local so called "Self Defence Force" that do not want the maidan activist to come to Crimea.

Its a wait and watch game .....Chances are the May Election wont get any recognition in Russia as they are insisting on the agreement signed by previous government and election under Ukranian constitution ( the current Western Backed government are unconstitutional per them )

Its a fluid situtation and status quo will remain for some time to come , Unless they all within Ukraine come to some form of agreement with the North/East/South of Ukraine.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 11:55

Seems like there was a long conference call last night between Putin and West

There must be no escalation of Ukraine violence - Putin to EU leaders

Russian President Vladimir Putin says there must be no further escalation of violence in Ukraine in phone calls with the leaders of Britain and Germany and the president of the European Council, the Kremlin said on Friday.

"The latest developments in the crisis in Ukraine were discussed substantively. It was emphasized that it is extremely important not to allow a further escalation of violence and normalize the situation as soon as possible," the Russian presidential press service said.

"It has been agreed to continue personal contacts on the matter and intensify interaction through foreign policy agencies," it said.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Mar 2014 12:22

Look,these warships,tanks and troops are ALREADY in the Crimea as per agreements to use the Sevastopol naval base until 2042! The base is one of Russia's most important naval bases anywhere ,responsible for the entire Meditt. Fleet,Black Sea Fleet,etc. Russia has huge military facilities,naval,air and ground on the peninsula,which already is an autonomous region and its history shows that for the better part of its history it was always Russian.Therefore,the impression being attempted by Western propagandists is as if a mighty invasion like Op Market garden,Normandy,Afghanistan,blah,blah has taken place.

Now that might very well happen if Russia is pushed too far by the Kiev junta who seized power using fascist forces,tricking Yanukovych int,o signing an agreement with EU leaders.While he may never play a major role in the Ukraine again,the clear inability for the fascist junta ri run the country will very soon explode upon the country.Ukraine will experience a currency collapse like the Weimar Republic and unless the EU wants to further beggar itself,when Russia also pulls the plug,"pop" will go the "weasels" in Kiev.As said before,it will be "Chicken a la Bomb".

While the "Bomb" is usually a great big ball,here is a good recipe for the similar Chicken a la Kiev.What is most ravishing about the dish is the manner in which the butter oozes out of the chicken when cut. MMMMM! I am going to celebrate the Crimea's "freedom" from the fascists this weekend by making this glorious dish .
Don't forget to have some chilled vodka (only Russian vodka mind,Stolly or Standard!),rye bread toasted with avocado and caviar by the side if available.
Bon appetit and Nazdorovye!

Ingredients

For the chicken kiev

4 x 175g/6oz chicken breasts, skin removed

3 garlic cloves, finely chopped

1 lemon, juice only

salt and freshly ground black pepper

1 tbsp chopped fresh tarragon

230g/8oz butter, slightly softened

2 tbsp plain flour

1 free-range egg, beaten

10-12 tbsp fresh breadcrumbs

olive oil, for frying

For the rice

250g/9oz cooked white and wild rice (from a packet of mixed white and wild rice) *Basmati brown will do nicely too.

100g/3½oz bacon lardons, fried until crisp

1 tbsp chopped fresh parsley

100g/3½oz pine nuts, toasted (you cab use cashews or even walnuts instead)

2 tbsp melted butter

Preparation method

Preheat the oven to 200C/400F/Gas 6.

For the chicken kiev, slice a piece out of the centre of the chicken breast to make a pocket using a sharp knife. Place the garlic, lemon juice, salt and freshly ground black pepper, tarragon and butter into a bowl and mix well. Stuff this mixture into the pocket in the chicken breasts.

Dredge the chicken breasts in the flour, then dip into the beaten egg, then the breadcrumbs to coat completely, shaking off any excess.

Heat the oil in an ovenproof frying pan and fry the chicken breasts on all sides until lightly browned. Transfer to the oven and bake for 18-20 minutes, or until golden-brown and completely cooked through.

For the rice, place all the rice ingredients into a bowl and mix well. Pack the rice mixture into four cups or ramekins.

To serve, turn the rice out onto serving plates with the chicken kiev alongside.

rgosain · Post by **rgosain** » 01 Mar 2014 12:54

Thanks for the sumptuous recipe Phil. Don't be surprised that Russia are saying that these unidentified armed men in Crimea are non-state actors or local militias. Now where have we heard that before.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 01 Mar 2014 12:58

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Mar 2014 13:21

yeh Obama kyaun bhaunk raha hain .. yeh kya ukhad lega ?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/a ... -1.1705331

'costs' ? This sounds like Pakistan imposing 'costs' for removing electricity from of their water.

this is more like what Obama can do ..

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/hav ... 8/5894265/

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 13:28

What is happening in Eastern Ukraine? I think apart from Crimea, there were movements in Eastern Ukraine also among pro Russian forces.

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Mar 2014 13:32

Are there any more chunks & pieces of Ukraine that can be absorbed by the Russians, apart from Crimea.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 16:00

They were already building an alternate Naval Base to Sevastopol at Russian port city of Novorossiysk when during Orange Revolution Ukraine leader decided not to extend the lease beyond 2017.

But then the lease was extended to 2042 with Ukraine getting paid in Lower Gas Prices and other economic benefits.

Considering the current situation the Novorossiysk Naval base will now come in handy should they decide to move out of Sevastopol ..although considering the support Russia enjoys at Crimea thats doubtful

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 01 Mar 2014 16:08

So it begins.
Crimean leader claims control and asks Vladimir Putin for help

The pro-Russian prime minister of Ukraine's Crimea, Sergei Aksenov, claimed control of all military, police and other security services in this strategic peninsula on Saturday and appealed to Russia's president for help in keeping peace there.
In a statement to Russian media, Sergei Aksenov declared that the armed forces, the police, the national security service and border guards will answer only to his orders. He said any commanders who didn't agree should leave their posts.
"I have decided to temporarily take command of all national forces," he told journalists.
"All commanders should take orders from me only."
Armed men described as Russian troops were in control of key airports and a communications centre in Crimea on Saturday.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 16:08

This is interesting

Delta, a Ukrainian-born former IDF soldier, headed a force of 40 men and women, most of whom are not Jewish, against gov’t forces

Israeli militia commander fights to protect Kiev

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Mar 2014 16:15

I think if you list put the locations of all the major defence and worthwhile industrial entities in the country,you will find the cherries that Russia would like to pick off....Oooops! Sorry,parts of the country that are pro-Russia and want to join it.

I can't fathom O'Bomber and his "costs" statement? Legal costs? Damages? Perhaps to be awarded to Putin for Ukraine being unable to pay its power bills? That might explain it! Ukraine welshes on its payments to Russia and as a result settles its debts by parcelling off parts its territory that Russia fancies! The Crimea of course doesn't count.Russia gave it away once for free,it expects its return for the same price.

Now the Ukranian military is on "high alert" we are told in this report. Intel sources say that the top brass of the military are "alert" on the top floor of a high building,a well known hostelry, indulging in some serious discussions of a "Ugandan" nature,which could be alternatively described as "Ukranian discussions" (discover this one for youselves!)
They are breathing fire and thunder from their nether ends ,probably the result of the previous night's exertions at the "table" discussions,more on the story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 62253.html

The Ukrainian army are on “high alert” in Crimea after Russia allegedly brought 6,000 troops into the border region.

Ukraine’s Defence Minister, Ihor Tenyukh, gave the first estimate of numbers following silence from Russia over reports they were deploying troops in the area but did not give any further details.

The Prime Minister of Ukraine vowed that his country will not be drawn into war by Russian “provocations”.

Speaking on Saturday morning, Arseny Yatseniuk appealed to Vladimir Putin’s government to halt military movements in the border region.

“It is unacceptable when armoured Russian military vehicles are out in the centre of Ukrainian towns,” he said before a government meeting in Kiev.

Russia, which has a naval base in Crimea, insisted any movements by its military in Crimea are in line with agreements with Ukraine over its naval fleet.

The Russian foreign ministry accused Kiev politicians of trying to destabilise the situation on the peninsula.

"In Russia, we are extremely concerned about the recent developments in Crimea," a statement said.

"We believe it is extremely irresponsible to further pressure the already tense situation."

Two airports in Crimea have been taken over by soldiers and armoured personnel carriers were seen on the roads as links through the area were shut off to the public.

The Crimean peninsula’s main port, Sevastopol, where Russia’s Black Sea fleet is based, has also been blocked off.

Barack Obama warned Mr Putin that there “will be costs” for any military intervention in Ukraine but did not go into details.

“We are now deeply concerned by reports of military movements taken by the Russian Federation inside of Ukraine,” he added.

“Any violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity would be deeply destabilising, which is not in the interests of Ukraine, Russia or Europe.

“It would present a profound interference in matters that must be decided by the Ukrainian people.”

The local administration in Crimea said a referendum will be held on 25 May – when Kiev plans to hold national post-revolution elections – on whether the Autonomous State of Crimea should have even greater independence.

Additional reporting by Reuters

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Latest rumours:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... ine-mounts

Crimea crisis: threat of full-scale Russian intervention mounts
Kremlin says it will not 'leave unnoticed' request by prime minister of Ukrainian region for Moscow's assistance

Peter Beaumont and agencies
theguardian.com, Saturday 1 March 2014 10.41 GMT

Armed military officers in camouflage outside the Simferopol airport. Photograph: ITAR-TASS/Barcroft Media

The prospect of a full-scale Russian military intervention in Ukraine's Crimean peninsula mounted on Saturday, as the region's new prime minister asked for Vladimir Putin's assistance and a Kremlin source said it would "not leave unnoticed" the request.

The pro-Russian prime minister of the region asked for Moscow's assistance in keeping the peace and claimed he had control of all military, police and other security services.

The call by Sergei Aksenov came after armed men described as Russian troops took control of key airports and a communications centre in Crimea on Friday, and Ukraine accused Russia of a "military invasion and occupation".

In the reply the Russian foreign ministry said it was "extremely concerned" about the recent developments in Crimea, which it said confirmed the desire of Kiev's politicians to destabilise the situation on the peninsula.

The foreign ministry also accused pro-Kiev gunmen of attempting to take over the interior ministry headquarters in the region, claiming several injuries had occurred.

"In Russia, we are extremely concerned about the recent developments in Crimea," the foreign ministry said in a statement. "We believe it is extremely irresponsible to further pressure the already tense situation in the Crimea."

In the escalating war of words between Kiev and Moscow, Ukraine's defence minister, Ihor Tenyukh, accused Russia of having "recently" brought 6,000 additional personnel into Ukraine and that the Ukrainian military were on high alert in the Crimea region.

The Crimean peninsula is home to a key Russian strategic naval base for the Black Sea fleet which it leases from Ukraine under an agreement.

Russian officials claimed on Friday that military movements in the region were covered by that agreement – a claim denied by Kiev.

The latest statements from both sides in the crisis follow mounting concern in the west, which on Friday prompted a statement from the US president, Barack Obama. Obama warned Moscow on Friday "there will be costs" if it intervenes militarily.

His comments came after the British foreign secretary, William Hague, announced he would travel to Kiev on Sunday for talks with the new government there.

The latest escalation of tension in Ukraine, where Viktor Yunukovych was deposed as president a week ago following mass demonstrations in whicvh more than 80 people died, came after armed men described as Russian troops took control of key airports and a communications centre in Crimea on Friday.

Ukraine's population is divided in loyalties between Russia and the west, with much of western Ukraine advocating closer ties with the European Union while eastern and southern regions look to Russia for support.

Crimea, a south-eastern peninsula of Ukraine that has semi-autonomous status, was seized by Russian forces in the 18th century under Catherine the Great. It became part of Ukraine in 1954 when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev transferred jurisdiction from Russia, a move that was a mere formality until the 1991 Soviet collapse meant Crimea landed in an independent Ukraine.

Moscow has taken a confrontational stance toward its southern neighbour after pro-Russian Yanukovych fled the country.

Aksenov, the head of the main pro-Russia party on the peninsula, said in his statement that he appealed to Putin "for assistance in guaranteeing peace and calmness on the territory of the autonomous republic of Crimea."

Aksenov was appointed by the Crimean parliament on Thursday after pro-Russian gunmen seized the building and as tensions soared over Crimea's resistance to the new authorities in Kiev, who took power last week.

Lovely name for the Crimean PM,Askenov. "Ask enough" from Russia and you will get yur wish!

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 01 Mar 2014 16:23

habal
kharkov is the place where Malashev plant where the al khali dabba is manufactured. Its in eastern ukraine. that would be one good thing for us.
I would say Putin would be a fool not to see the western moves in taking over Ukraine, Crimea (Sevastopol) is the key to Syrian defiance against west. Loosing that would mean loosing Syria and then Iran. Putin is anything but a fool.

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 16:50

surrender to breast war

Britain will become one of 11 countries with an active Femen base, as part of the ongoing expansion of the Ukrainian movement which boasts that it will “break the patriarchal system with our breasts”.

Femen was founded in the Ukraine in 2008, initially as a national feminist group.

http://www.mfs-theothernews.com/2012/09 ... ea-of.html

The Ukrainian women’s group marched half-naked through a predominantly Muslim neighbourhood in Paris’ 18tharrondissement with messages written on their chests including “Muslim, let’s get naked” and “Our God is a woman”.

Just to show how the western world is using Ukraine! for promoting its agenda

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 16:54

I think that Russia should encourage Province heads of pro-Russian Parts of Ukraine to declare themselves autonomous. It would be better for Russia to break up Ukraine in multiple parts rather then letting all attention be concentrated on Crimea.

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 16:59

10,000 protest in Ukraine's pro-Russia city of Donetsk

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Intern ... z2uiCP72aV

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 17:00

http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/23/viol ... upporters/

A scene repeated in several other cities like Kerch in Crimea where some Ukrainians have spoken openly of their desire to see the country split along political lines.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 17:37

Seems for real now expect some action in Crimea

Its official now at least:
03/01 16:14 RUSSIAN FEDERATION COUNCIL ALLOWS FOR POSSIBILITY OF SENDING LIMITED ARMED FORCE TO CRIMEA TO PROTECT RUSSIAN CITIZENS, BLACK SEA FLEET'S SECURITY - FEDERATION COUNCIL CHAIR MATVIYENKO

http://www.interfax.com/news.asp

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Mar 2014 17:57

All that Gaz!
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140301/1879906 ... -Debt.html

It's going to be no gas for the gasbags of the Kiev junta very shortly.No gas for the population is going to dramatically shorten the "honeymoon period" for the militant mafia who have usurped power in the country.Just look at the discounted gas prices.Talk about biting the hand that was feeding it.

Gazprom Mulls Cancelling Ukraine Gas Discount Over Debt

MOSCOW, March 1 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s state-run energy giant Gazprom said Saturday that Ukraine is $1.55 billion in arrears on payments for natural gas deliveries, which the company said may force it to cancel a discount on the fuel agreed in December.

Gazprom spokesman Sergei Kupriyanov told RIA Novosti that although relations with Ukraine remained good and that gas for onward delivery was being transited as required, payments still needed to be respected.

“What is owed is huge, not just for last year, but also debts for current deliveries,” he said, noting that Russia has issued a $3 billion line of credit for the express purpose of covering its gas debts.

Kupriyanov said “agreements on discounts mandated full and timely payment for deliveries.”

Ukraine’s national oil and gas company Naftogaz Ukrainy had as of February 14 paid Gazprom $1.28 billion for gas delivered last year and asked to postpone payment of what remained until April 15.

Gazprom said in early February that Ukrainian debt for 2013 deliveries stood at $2.63 billion, meaning that Naftogaz had around $1.35 billion still to pay at the middle of the month.

Naftogaz bought around 13 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia in 2013 at the rate of $400 per thousand cubic meters.

That price was substantially reduced in December to $268.5 per thousand cubic meters.

The discount was part of a raft of support mechanisms devised by Russia for Ukraine following the latter’s decision in late November to back away from signing a deal that would have deepened political and economic relations with the European Union.

Moscow has so far paid $3 billion out of a promised $15 billion loan, which was to be issued as payment for internationally listed Ukrainian bonds.

Critics of the loan and discount package have argued that it was devised as a bribe to induce Ukraine to cement its ties with Russia, spurn the EU and defer much –needed structural economic reforms.

The chances of the remainder of that Russian loan being provided looks slim since last month’s ouster of President Viktor Yanukovych, who was chased out of office at the culmination of three months-long protests initially provoked by his decision on the EU deal.

The gas discount deal looks similarly frail.

Under the arrangement between Naftogaz and Gazprom, the size of the discount was to be determined of the first day of every new quarter and formalized within ten days. Failure to renew the discount deal by April 10 will cause it to cease having effect.

Russia – Ukraine Gas Dispute

The incoming Ukrainian government confirmed by parliament this past week is viewed with deep suspicion by the Kremlin, which has nonetheless vaguely committed to cooperating with the international community on providing its western neighbor with financial assistance.

Interim Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has warned of his country’s desperate financial state and that unpopular decisions would urgently need to be taken.

Delegations from the EU and International Monetary Fund are to visit Ukraine next week to assess the country’s needs as it faces a wave of looming financial and security crises.

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 18:19

Lets see the Armed forces of Ukraine:-

1. Heavily trained youth due to mandatory conscript service. Population around 4 crore and out of which 20% are ethnic Russians.

2. Armed forces, Para Military and Police etc are around 300,000 out of which 250,000 should be available as other may desert.

3. Main armaments are of Russian origin and will face very severe spare parts problems.

4. US, EU, Israeli, Saudi Backed SF will help the Ukrainians

5. Ground forces

686 Tanks (+ 41 in Navy)
2,065 (+ 310 in air-mobile forces and 160 in Navy) Armored Combat Vehicles
72 Combat Helicopters
716 (+ 47 in Navy) Artillery Systems

6. Air Force

Around 200 aircrafts like Su-27, Mig-29, Su-25, Su-25 and
around 50 Attack helicopters

7. Navy

Around 50 Important Naval vessels and 50 Naval helos

Conclusion:- Ukraine must face multiple separatist movements otherwise Russians will have problems in armed conflict. Ukraine has around 20-25 regions out of which 8-10 are pro Russian, all of them must be encouraged to declare autonomy. So that any conflict is Civil War and not Russia vs Ukraine.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Mar 2014 18:27

Spot on Vic.The Crimean PM,Ask-enough,has just announced a referendum for independence of the region.This will give legitimacy to the Crimean move for self rule or some sort of tie-up with Russia.The boundaries of post-war Ukraine are now history.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2014 18:29

Balkanization of ukraine would appear to be putins best option for now.

RSoami · Post by **RSoami** » 01 Mar 2014 18:41

Eastern Ukraine is almost entirely pro Russian. Western ukraine is not pro western either. It reflects in the way pro-western governments have captured power in Kiev twice. Russia has punished them `economically` and showed who is the boss. Unless the west is willing to bankroll the entire state of Ukraine which is anyway very Russian, Ukrainian clowns who have captured power will have little choice. They will go the the Yushchenko way. Their end will come sooner than Yushchenko though.

Russia is losing patience with the continuing crisis. Putin wants to get done with it. Taking over crimea is easy. But if only he remains patient all of Ukraine will revert to Russia again. And this time Putin must bargain even harder. The west can never have Ukraine even if they are willing to pay 30-40 billion dollars which is needed to save Ukraine in the short term.

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 18:46

Western World wants Russians to pay for pro-West Ukraine through Gas subsidies. I think that Russia should tell Ukraine to shove it and let EU sort out the mess, if they want continued Gas supply. If there is no agreement, Russia will suffer minor losses but Ukraine will be devastated without Gas supply from Russia.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Mar 2014 18:56

The junta Ukranians will have to feed their population with a heavy diet of beans and lentils and hope that their indigenous gas production will tide them over the crisis! They could also invite the EU and US gasbags to make their own contribution!

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 01 Mar 2014 19:01

putin asks for approval to use force. from the upper house. TOI

vic · Post by **vic** » 01 Mar 2014 19:10

Is there some sort of shadow war going on to curb Russian Gas exports and keep Crude Oil Prices high? Incidentally how far Russia will be able to maintain supplies to Europe if Ukraine cuts of pipelines flowing through its territories?

RSoami · Post by **RSoami** » 01 Mar 2014 19:16

With the north stream pipeline functioning well, Russia will not be impacted badly. In fact for this very reason Russia built that pipeline.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 01 Mar 2014 19:18

parliament approves the use of force

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 01 Mar 2014 19:35

it will be tragic for Ukraine to be divided. but ghe fascists may leave Russia with no choice.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 20:04

vic wrote:Is there some sort of shadow war going on to curb Russian Gas exports and keep Crude Oil Prices high? Incidentally how far Russia will be able to maintain supplies to Europe if Ukraine cuts of pipelines flowing through its territories?

Gas/Oil prices are kept up by OPEC cartel and those outside it like Venezeulla and Russia wont complain much.

As far as gas flow goes it will go through Ukraine unless the Maidan Government wants to stop it but since they are Western puppet they wont likely.

Nord Stream ensures uninterrupted supply to Germany.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 01 Mar 2014 20:24

No need to send in troops unless the Maidan comes in and kills people around ..... although yesterday night Crimea buildings had gun fights from people send by Kiev.

Vlad should just chill for now .....No need to escalate this further

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2014 20:45

The so called crimean militias look very well trained and composed.
some have shmel type rocket tubes on backs.
definitely some naval spestnaz units in there

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 01 Mar 2014 20:52

The whole masked men operation has SPETSNAZ written all over it in bold letters.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 01 Mar 2014 20:57

Just the manner of carrying their guns marks them out as different from changu mangu militias.
pretty composed and watchful lot.

shameless mountbatten singh could have done the same in Maldives at least and shipped the sinics and Islamists off to jail