Bharat Rakshak

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The following links are background material on Pakistan.

UNDERSTANDING PAKISTAN:

Jinnah's Pakistan: An Interview with MA Jinnah, and how the Pakistan of Yesterday is the Pakistan of Today
http://iref.homestead.com/Messiah.html

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis on Jan 28th 2009, to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

Know Your Pakistan
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /Shiv.html

The Monkey Trap: A synopsis of Indo-Pak relations
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... ayyam.html

PAKISTAN-FAILED STATE: an ebook that owes its origin and existence to BRF.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf

Whither Pakistan ? Growing Instability and Implications for India: an IDSA e-Book, July 2010
http://idsa.in/book/WhitherPakistan

A landmark article that demolishes myths built up about Pakistan
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers8/paper710.html

Pakistani Role in Terrorism Against the U.S.A
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... yanan.html

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://www.sdpi.org/publications/public ... 86-34.html#

Making Enemies, Creating Conflict: Pakistan's Crises of State and Society. A book written by Pakistanis on Pakistan.
http://members.tripod.com/~no_nukes_sa/Contents.html

Should Pakistan Be Broken Up? by Gul Agha
http://pakistan70.tripod.com/gul.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part I
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... art-1.html

Prof. Walter Russell Mead, "Pakistan's Failed National Strategy"
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... -strategy/

"Pakistan Is", by Barry Bearak in New York Times Magazine, December 7, 2003.
Brings out succinctly various facets of Pakistani perfidy, obsession, fundamentalism etc.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... nted=print

Religion as the Foundation of a Nation: The Making and Unmaking of Pakistan - P.K. Upadhyay, IDSA
It probes the religious and sectarian fault-lines in Pakistan in depth to determine their impact on the future of Pakistan.
http://idsa.in/system/files/monograph36.pdf

Ms. Christine Fair's exposition on Pakistan military, society et al. A Must see.
Fighting to the End: Pakistan Army's Way of War

PAKISTAN & TERRORISM:

The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups (Laskar-e-Taiba)
By Hussein Haqqani (journalist and Pak ambassador to US)
http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/rese ... detail.asp

Lashkar-e-Taiba: Past Operations and Future Prospects, Stephen Tankel, April 2011
New America Foundation
http://newamerica.net/sites/newamerica. ... _LeT_0.pdf


Pakistani sponsoring of Terrorism
http://www.geocities.com/charcha_2000/
http://pak-terror.freeservers.com/Terro ... y_Tool.htm

Terror Map: The Pakistani Hand
http://sify.com/news/specials/terrormap/?vsv=TopHP1

Ethnic cleansing in Pakistan - a statistical analysis
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... idhar.html

A chronicle of genocide by the Pakistan army
http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

Documentary video evidence of Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKlIUbpc ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwPbkyZV ... re=related

Inside Jihad - How Pakistan sponsors terrorists in India
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/ ... r_sb1.html

Pakistan's Role in the Kashmir Insurgency - Op-ed by Rand's Peter Chalk
http://www.rand.org/hot/op-eds/090101JIR.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part II
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... -upon.html

BEYOND MADRASAS: ASSESSING THE LINKS BETWEEN EDUCATION AND MILITANCY IN PAKISTAN
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... nthrop.pdf

Pakistani Military Officers' Links with Jihadist Organizations
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5587.htm

Putting Our Children in Line of Fire - The Nation, January 27, 2013
The above is an admission by Pakistan Army's Top General that it was the Pakistani Army at Kargil, not the mujahideen, and Musharraf was the Culprit

Debate between a Taliban Scholar and a Paki Army Officer

PAKISTAN TODAY:

On the Frontier of Apocalypse: Christopher Hitchens seminal article on Pakistan today
http://newsstuff.0catch.com/article5.htm

http://meaindia.nic.in/bestoftheweb/2002/10/14bow2.htm

A Slender Reed in Pakistan - Editorial in the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p08s03-comv.html

Seymour Hersh Interview
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html

Pakistan's Nuclear Crimes (Wash. Post editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... 2-2004Feb4

http://www.indiadefence.com/LOA07Aug04.htm

The Battle for Pakistan: Militancy and Conflict in Pakistan's Tribal Regions
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/ ... r_pakistan

BOOK REVIEW Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpap ... r1844.html

Article from Vinni Capelli - Foreign Policy Research Institute:
Containing Pakistan: Engaging the Raja-Mandala in South-Central Asia
http://www.fpri.org/orbis/5101/cappelli ... kistan.pdf

The videos are from this documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

A bomb at all cost By Ahmad Faruqui - a candid admission of the wars that Pakistan started against India.

Popular support for suicide bombings in pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg12_1
Survey by university students in karachi say 50% of respondents support suicide bombings in kashmir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4
"Descent into Chaos"
UC Berkeley Conversations with History, host Harry Kreisler talking with Pakistani Journalist Ahmed Rashid. 59 minutes 120 MB. It sums up Pakistan and lays bare all Pakistan's terrorist support and proliferation activities. **Note - he wants the US to solve Pakistan's Kashmir problem.

Pakistan on the brink: Video Link (must download)

MISCELLANEOUS

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto telling Bangladeshis to "Go to Hell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsxfyxa ... re=related

IDSA's weekly summary of Pak Urdu Press:

http://www.idsa.in/pup


Christine Fair :Ten fictions that pakistani defense officials love to peddle

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Five installment series by Kapil Komireddi published in Frum Forum

Part I. Nov 16, 2009. “Pakistan In Crisis”.

Part II. Nov 18. 2009. “Pakistan: Origins of A Failed State”.

Part III. Nov 18, 2009. “Pakistan: It Could Not Succeed Unless India Failed”.

Part IV. Dec 06, 2009. “Pakistan: A Mecca for Radical Islam”.

Part V. Dec. 07, 2009. “Pakistan’s Army: Building a Nation for Jihad”

A perceptive blog on Pakistan: http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/

Declassified documents from US National Archives on Pakistan:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/pakistan.htm
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Admission of state sponsored terrorism by Pakistani authorities

see this Der Spigel Interview where Musharraf admits to that.

On 7th Nov in TimesNow Channel, Tasneem Noorani, a former Secretary of the Pakistani Interior Ministry, openly said that.

Kiyani called the Haqqanis as strategic assets.

In Dec. 2008, President Zardari himself admitted to ISI helping LeT. He said,"The links between the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency and the LeT were developed in the old days when dictators used to run the country. After the 9/11 terror attacks in the US, things have changed to a great extent"

In an address to bureaucrats in July 2009, President Zardari said: "Militants and extremists were deliberately created and nurtured as a policy to achieve some short-term tactical objectives. Let us be truthful to ourselves and make a candid admission of the realities. The terrorists of today were the heroes of yesteryears until 9/11 occurred and they began to haunt us as well"

In Nov. 2009, Prime Minister Gilani admitted to the support for terrorism by Musharraf as "running with the hares and hunting with the hounds".

When Bush warned the Pakistanis in August 2008 of their support to Al Qaeda, Afrasiab Khattak, President of Awami National Party (ANP) said this: "The question is why it has taken the Americans so long to see what the ISI is doing. We’ve been telling them for years but they wouldn’t buy it.". See here.

In an interview to the BBC as far back as on Feb. 13, 1994, Benazir Bhutto admitted how she handed over to Rajiv Gandhi the complete list of Sikh activists colluding with the ISI in terrorism in the Punjab. Later, Nawaz Sharif described this interview as a faux pas.

Apart from these, of course, numerous Pakistani commentators, analysts, and editors have openly admitted to terror as a state policy.

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Why Did Pakistan's Spy Chief Make a Secret Trip to China?
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Pasha's China trip has been interpreted by some as a tacit act of defiance—a reminder to his American counterparts that the Pakistanis can always look east to their “all-weather” friend across the Himalayas rather than bend the knee to the will of the U.S.

But it also may be a sign of China's growing disquiet with Pakistan. Another top-ranking Pakistani military officer, Lt. Gen Wahid Arshad, had already conducted a considerable tour of China just weeks ago in a bid to improve ties. A few analysts have suggested that Pasha's trip — couched in vague terms about building a “broad-based strategic dialogue” — may have been less a visit and more of a summons.

Quote:

Chinese officials claimed the attacks in Kashgar were authored by the shadowy East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a jihadist organization of mostly ethnic Uighurs, a Turkic Muslim minority that comprises the majority in the far-western Chinese region of Xinjiang. China routinely invokes the specter of the terrorist threat when cracking down on dissent in the restive region. Yet disturbances there tend to be triggered more often by social discontent — many Uighurs chafe at state policies they deem discriminatory and marginalizing — than militant connivance. Pasha's presence in Beijing may mark Beijing's continued efforts to root out Uighur dissidents and sympathizers beyond China's borders, as it has already done in Kazakhstan.

Youtube video: Bilatakalluf with Tahif Gora: Tarek Fateh dissects with Pakjabi society and shows how its war-impotent Army loots the common Pakistani (Jan 13, 2012)

It is a good enough name, I used to crib back in the day that the TSP threads reach 72 in a monyhs time. I am still unhappy that the last one still took 4 months to reach 72. I will be happy when the TSP thread languishes at the bottom of forum and never reaches its 72.

After attack on journalist Hamid Mir, several denials and accusations are going around in land of pure and unenraged

Pak army to take legal action against Geo TV for maligning ISI
link

Hamid Mir nominates ISI chief in his attack fearing letter
link

Attack on Hamid Mir: Journalists say Geo TV bent upon maligning
link

Pakistani Journalists Protest Shooting of Colleague
link

TV channel had to explicitly call for investigation!
link
While calling for transparent investigation, there is no forgetting how the channel respects the army of course.

From other good bad and ugly freedom-fighters/jihadis/terrorists:

Hamid Mir reaped what he had sown: TTP
link

JI condemns attack, says progress made on govt-TTP talks
link

Pratyush wrote:It is a good enough name, I used to crib back in the day that the TSP threads reach 72 in a monyhs time. I am still unhappy that the last one still took 4 months to reach 72. I will be happy when the TSP thread languishes at the bottom of forum and never reaches its 72.

+1

It took four months to close the last thread (meet its 72, so to speak) for a reason. Used to be time when "42 killed in IED attack" would generate a page full of comments. Now that kind of "sun-sunny khabar" barely registers a glance or a smirk from the BRF die hards.

Five killed, one injured in Karachi violence

KARACHI : Five people were killed and one injured in different incidents of violence in Karachi, DawnNews reported.

Four bodies were recovered near Dhabeji area of Karachi’s National Highway. The victims were killed as a result of firing.

One person was also gunned down and another sustained injuries due to firing near Gharibabad underpass.

Cheers

Could we have the first post edited to copy over the usual TSP thread first post links?

Nawaz's diktat: Treat the disease, not the diseased, says PM on Karachi situation

I think he meant "don't treat the symptom, treat the disease" but in pakiland everything is possible.

It seems EyeAssEye is sending out SMS to journalists asking them (more like warning them) to boycott Geo news and its papers. Btw, I hear this SMS thing from EyeAssEye is pretty common.

All these Pak journos are paper tigers onlee. They are falling over each other to pay tributes to EyeAssEye and GHQ.

So much for independent and vibrant media

Arab royal hunts down 2,100 houbara bustards in three week safari
http://www.dawn.com/news/1101272

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
― Mahatma Gandhi

Hafeez Saeed and his masters are already threatening India under Modi.

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A Venn diagram, by Shiv, to illustrate the commonality and difference between "bad Taliban" and Jinnah's Pakistan.


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Does not exist.

Use imgur for images. Simple interface and is reliable.

The ROTFL thing is that Army has warned it will seek judicial remedy for false allegations by Hamid Mir .... while alleging that the Judiciary is biased, should not prosecute musharraf and the Army will protect its ech and dee from the judiciary at all costs.

There are two types of judiciary it seems. Good judiciary and bad judiciary.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/698409/pak- ... ney-nawaz/

Pakistan-China friendship “is sweeter than the sweetest honey in this world,” stated Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif at the inauguration ceremony of two gas turbines of 243 megawatts (MW) each in Guddu, Sindh.

^ Really, isn't every Pakistani sick and tired of these cliches repeated ad nauseum? Don't they know this is all fake?

anupmisra wrote:It took four months to close the last thread (meet its 72, so to speak) for a reason. Used to be time when "42 killed in IED attack" would generate a page full of comments. Now that kind of "sun-sunny khabar" barely registers a glance or a smirk from the BRF die hards.

true..anything less than hundred is not worth a smiley.. visit this threat, get the news, move on.. i have stopped even smiling..

nice title, hakim ji.. loved it.

I think only an Indian analyst can write an article about potential next Indian PM's Pakistan policy without words like "terror" or "26/11" at the same time talking about 2002 riots, fears of Pakistan, indirectly drawing equivalence between Indian Muslims and Pakistan etc.

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... s-eyes/99/

C. Raja Mohan

Both Pakistanis and "Indian analysts" have moved on from 26/11. Good going.

partha wrote: . . "Indian analysts" have moved on from 26/11. Good going.

Until the next one strikes, which is round the corner, IMHO.

Do Indian security agencies keep tabs on former establishment figures - i.e. if they "stray"? I mean, the revelations regarding armed forces brass in Siachen Track-420 and others (maybe even a respected scientist who came back with a shady looking Sankhya Vahini project)? By virtue of their past position if they push positions that seem to converge strongly with foreign positions..... something is wrong.

I mean, a Petraeus might criticize certain aspects of GOTUS's running of the war and might trade blows with Rummy, but you never see him with CAIR speaking about "The Root Cause of Middle East Terror - Jews in Palestine", right?

Atri wrote: nice title, hakim ji.. loved it.

SSridhar's brainchild

>>Do Indian security agencies keep tabs on former establishment figures - i.e. if they "stray"?

Yes. Whether they stray or not. How updated, etc., god only knows, but our counter-intel is supposed to be quite good. Stodgy and a bit "old-fashioned" perhaps, but steady and reliable. Open sources only.

Don't ask for links or references. I don't have it. It is what I gathered from reading quite a bit here and there. Robert Baer and Stephen Cohen come to mind.

From the previous thread now halalled,

anupmisra wrote:(Paki) IT ministry can’t afford (Paki) IT experts

Ghansham Das, originally an officer of the forest department in Sindh, is on deputation to the MoIT and is currently working as assistant chief of development.

Ghansham Das is probably the highest ranking Hindu civilian in GoP.

shiv wrote:SSridhar's brainchild

Only partly mine, mostly yours.

SSridhar wrote:Ghansham Das is probably the highest ranking Hindu civilian in GoP.

There was a Hindu supreme court judge, Bhagwan Das or something. He probably was put out to pasture. Wonder what happened to that Sikh army officer who was trotted around in the paki press as a symbol of paki secularism? I came across the names of two Hindu doctors in the PA a couple of years ago.

anupmisra, Bhgwan Das retired several years ago,probably 2007 or thereabouts. There were two Sikhs, one in Lahore Police and another in the Army. Both were firsts in their respective positions. I assume the Sikh PA guy continues, at least there is no further news about him. The Lahore Sikh Police officer resigned from the job unable to manage the constant taunts and pressure to convert.

SSridhar wrote:anupmisra, Bhgwan Das retired several years ago,probably 2007 or thereabouts. There were two Sikhs, one in Lahore Police and another in the Army. Both were firsts in their respective positions. I assume the Sikh PA guy continues, at least there is no further news about him. The Lahore Sikh Police officer resigned from the job unable to manage the constant taunts and pressure to convert.

I checked. His name is Harcharan Singh and he joined PA as a 2ndLT in 2005 (clicky hiyar), that was nine years ago. He should be a captain by now, wouldn't you think? By the way, Singh was also asked to convert during his days at the PMA. Once again, clicky hiyar. Must be some kind of an obligatory thing a paki must do when he sees a non-muslim.

At the PMA, the callow, sensitive Sardarji was baffled to hear some ask him to convert to Islam

Just noticed.

The initials of earlier dhaga were TIRP..

initials of this dhaga are STFUp..

^^ now I like the name even more!

Maybe this should be in Benis

SP Aslam attack case declared solved

Describing the attack the police officer says:

The attack was carried out in an extremely skilled manner to hit the bull’s eye without a slight difference of inches… neither left nor right. The job was done in a very proficient way meeting international standard and trend of these kinds of assaults.”

To assert his findings, he shared a few facts mentioned by the bomb disposal unit in its report. It showed that the attack had a range of 51 metres for ‘lethal air blast’ with ‘building evocation distance’ of 195 metres.

“Similarly, the attack caused falling glass hazard within a range of 838 metres and outdoor evocation distance was 838 metres. If one goes through the findings of major bomb attacks across the globe more or less the same damage was reported with key features of bombing remain the same,” added the official.

This paki is proud that a terrorist act meets "international standards"? wtf. The damn standard is set in Pakistan.

A few leg byes and a no ball
Charsadda blast (Near Peshawar)
http://www.dawn.com/news/1101538/three- ... adda-blast

Chaman blast (Near Quetta)
http://www.dawn.com/news/1101568/chaman ... ven-people

Mijjile test phyred! AoA!

Also we have no idea where it fell, it din fall back on our heads, so it is clearly a success..

X Posted from the Balwaristan thread.

Mass protests sweep Pakistani-occupied Gilgit Baltistan

SSridhar wrote:^ Really, isn't every Pakistani sick and tired of these cliches repeated ad nauseum? Don't they know this is all fake?

Even PM Shariff does not seem to believe in these. There was one video where he tried to mouth these cliches but could not and his brother had help him out!

saip wrote:There was one video where he tried to mouth these cliches but could not and his brother had help him out!

Yes, that was in China on his first trip after assuming PMship. And, the expression on Nawaz's face betrayed his own belief in such fake words & phrases. My question was whether the people of Pakistan (I think the Chinese do not care) believe in these words like the Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai facade?

Slipper with sacred symbol of 'OM' sold in Sindh markets

Chappals (slippers) with the symbol of 'OM' were found being sold in one of the markets of Pakistan, it was reported by news media.

India Today, a news website said 'Om' or 'Aum' is of paramount importance in Hinduism.

According to Wikipedia, it is a mantra and mystical Sanskrit sound of Hindu origin which is sacred and important in various Dharmic religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sanatana Dharma and Jainism. .

The chapplas with 'Om' sign were discovered being sold in the town of Mirpur in Sindh Provence where a large number of Hindu population resides.

While many journalist in Pakistan have condemned the circulation of shoes with Hinduism’s most sacred mantra, the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), which politically controls Sindh, immediately attempted to shift the blame.

PPP claimed the shoes were likely manufactured in the Punjab province and demanded Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif immediately order sealing of the concerned factory.

PPP further wanted a stop on "manufacturing of such disgraceful products and strong action against the culprits."

There were no reports of independent confirmation that shoes were manufactured in the Punjab. Karachi also serves as a significant manufacturing hub for Pakistani products.

Thats Ok. In college we used to call the potty Pakistan. Like have to go to Pakistan!

^ Should not all these people wearing or selling or manufacturing such chappals be booked under the famous blasphemy law and be declared wajib-ul-Qatal or atleast be hanged from their neck?
Let Pakis follow the own law and Sharia and bring these culprits to book..

Wrong thread JohneeG.