ramana wrote:
OK so its standard 45 tanks for Arjun regiments also.
So where are the rest of the tanks?
may be two more under strength regiments are in forming mode?
War reserves plus Armd School plus College of Combat perhaps...
ramana wrote:
OK so its standard 45 tanks for Arjun regiments also.
So where are the rest of the tanks?
may be two more under strength regiments are in forming mode?
ks_sachin wrote:ramana wrote:
OK so its standard 45 tanks for Arjun regiments also.
So where are the rest of the tanks?
may be two more under strength regiments are in forming mode?
War reserves plus Armd School plus College of Combat perhaps...
I agree that we may not see a 1:1 replacement of T72 with Arjun, and this is a good start, but even then this program has been invested heavily in. Just curious what stops IA from inducting at least 500 Arjuns to make the project financially viable also (DRDO has told multiple times that anything less than 500 it is a dead loss). I understand logistics may be a challenge and terrain may not suit, but what stops us from a solid punch around the rajasthan axis.ramana wrote:118 Arjun Mk1A
the old argument of training and doctrine. Though I dont buy that. I think T90 is the suzeranity payments to keep russia on our side.Pratyush wrote:Frankly I have never understood as to why Arjun cannot be used in Punjab. It's ground pressure is less than that of tin cans. It should be able to go where ever the tin cans can go.
Besides if the Indian army is planning to use the Pakistani bridge network. What is the assurance that they will all not be blown up either by IAF to prevent reinforcement by TSP. Or to prevent retreat by TSP.
In is situation any bridge left standing by IAF will be identified as the roads of Indian army advance and they will be blown up.
What I am trying to say is that IA needs to build up its bridging capacity to support Arjun wherever the army is expected to fight.
Not limit it to specific sectors. Giving the enemy options of dealing with us.
exactly the money stays in India. I dont think 500-1000 tanks will dent our defence budget even over a decade period and cause inflation. At the end of day a non trivial part will be in INR. However, 1000 tanks will be a huge headache for pakis. They are not slow either what was the first argument against heavy tanks. If we are planning to precipitate a collapse of napakistan more arjun tanks are absolutely required.ParGha wrote:Avadi HVF was setup in 1961 for strategic depth away from the Chinese bomber range (back then), as were many other defense factories in the South. The strategy was quite simple - low level technology (ex small arms) would be done in North India, medium tech in Central India, and high tech in South India.
By now tanks and IFVs should have evolved into medium tech and safety pulled up to Central India for mass industrial production, but sadly the Indian industrial capacity hasn’t evolved fast enough. Worse, the Chinese naval capacity has grown exponentially and may soon invalidate this 1960s strategy. The MOD should simply sign a ~500 Arjun order, commoditize the bloody thing and get it to Central India. If she wants to hand out candies for TN, let it be high tech facilities buried in the hills.
Danush gun and other gunsashthor wrote:So what will the UP defense corridors surprise us for?
Excellent find. I am thinking we should start a new thread with a reference library (just like the first post in Page 1 of the Tejas Mk1/Mk1A thread) on the info that you and ParGha Sir have provided on composition in an armoured regiment. I want to do one for the artillery thread as well - I believe there are three batteries (six guns each) in each regiment (so 18 in total). And the same for the mechanized infantry as well (which we can add into the Armoured Vehicles thread). A good reference info is nice for everyone and especially for newbies.ramana wrote:OK so its standard 45 tanks for Arjun regiments also.
let us not shiver over some SLCM attacks and make billion $$ decisions where its tough to get the industrial infra and metalworking traditions of coimbatore and salem and trichy dating back to chola and pallava days.ParGha wrote:Avadi HVF was setup in 1961 for strategic depth away from the Chinese bomber range (back then), as were many other defense factories in the South. The strategy was quite simple - low level technology (ex small arms) would be done in North India, medium tech in Central India, and high tech in South India.
By now tanks and IFVs should have evolved into medium tech and safety pulled up to Central India for mass industrial production, but sadly the Indian industrial capacity hasn’t evolved fast enough. Worse, the Chinese naval capacity has grown exponentially and may soon invalidate this 1960s strategy. The MOD should simply sign a ~500 Arjun order, commoditize the bloody thing and get it to Central India. If she wants to hand out candies for TN, let it be high tech facilities buried in the hills.
I hope you do realize that CVRDE is near Avadi, and that HVF/CVRDE benefit from the huge investment and skills involved in automotive manufacture in the TN industrial belt?ParGha wrote:Avadi HVF was setup in 1961 for strategic depth away from the Chinese bomber range (back then), as were many other defense factories in the South. The strategy was quite simple - low level technology (ex small arms) would be done in North India, medium tech in Central India, and high tech in South India.
By now tanks and IFVs should have evolved into medium tech and safety pulled up to Central India for mass industrial production, but sadly the Indian industrial capacity hasn’t evolved fast enough. Worse, the Chinese naval capacity has grown exponentially and may soon invalidate this 1960s strategy. The MOD should simply sign a ~500 Arjun order, commoditize the bloody thing and get it to Central India. If she wants to hand out candies for TN, let it be high tech facilities buried in the hills.
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