Indian Interests_2

[RoyG]

Obesity rates in the western hemisphere are alarming. It is not uncommon to see human beings weighing 350-400 lbs.

Perhaps the IMF can gently suggest lower levels of consumption that will leave more for the poor of the planet.

It is not just economics it is cultural. The Japanese have a very high standard of living but are rarely obese.

I am sorry to observe that Indians are heading the way of westerners.

A plant based whole food diet is the only way to end the obesity epidemic. In the case of India, it should build upon Ayurveda and incorporate the scientific methodology to come up with targeted dietary solutions for its citizens and the region. I think this is the first step. The environmental benefits will be huge as well.

[sanjayc]

One year back, I dropped rice and potatoes from my diet, replaced wheat flour with millet flour (available at Patanjali as Gluten Free Atta), and cut down on sugar. That was enough to reduce my weight on its own by 12 kgs without doing any exercise. Now, I fast once a week, and I feel 10 years younger and all aches and pain in the body is gone. Over-nutrition and a diet rich in starch are prime culprits in obesity epidemic and chronic diseases.

[chetak]

The redeveloped ITPO complex, which will host India’s #G20 Leaders meetings will be inaugurated on 26th July

via@DDNewslive




















Here are its details:

- With a campus area of approximately 123 acres, the Pragati Maidan Complex proudly holds the title of India's largest MICE (Meetings, Incentives, Conferences, and Exhibitions) destination

- At Level 3 of the Convention Centre, a grand seating capacity of 7,000 individuals awaits, making it even larger than the seating capacity of approx. 5500 of the iconic Sydney Opera House in Australia

- IECC boasts a magnificent Amphitheater with a seating capacity of 3,000 individuals i.e., equivalent to 3 PVR theatres combined

- provision of over 5,500 vehicle parking spaces

[bala]

Fascinating discussion on wide ranging topics: biden, russia-ukraine, china expansion, india's future, etc.



One of the mistakes Abhijit regurgitates is that Neverwho played China & USSR well, but the sad fact is that Neverwho handed over the Security Council seat to China and he let China take Tibet without any whimper.

[ramana]

AIM does read BRF.
Do expand on your insight on Nehruji.

[bala]

Do expand on your insight on Nehruji.

Ramana, luckily i preserved this list, which was put together by someone:

Nehru Blunders

1. Rejected a permanent seat at the UN
2. Rejected Nepal’s offer to join Bharat
3. Rejected Balochistan’s offer to join Bharat
4. Created the Kashmir issue
5. Presided over the disastrous Sino-Bharat war
6. Refusal To Enter Nuclear Deal
7. Nehru rejected a US offer of helping Bharat with the development of a nuclear device in 1964 perhaps because he was a proponent of non-violence.
8. Led the ill-conceived Non-Aligned Movement
9. Indifference towards Goa
10. Favoured Socialism instead of free-market Capitalism.
11. Ignored Corruption
12. Clung to Power for too long
13. Curbed journalistic freedom and freedom of expression
14. Failure to encourage, promote and implement universal primary education
15. Toppled democratically elected Kerala government in 1957
16. Gifted Pakistan
17. Didn't allow Sardar Patel to be the PM
18. Gifting Manipur's Kabo valley to Burma
19. Gifting the strategically located Coco Islands to Burma
20. Refusing the Sultan of Oman's gift of Gwadar port
21. Giving up on Tibet, placing India's water security and northern border at China's mercy
22. Signing the most unequal treaty in history in 1960, PM Nehru, for the sake of "friendship" and "goodwill" signed one of the most unequal, lopsided treaties ever — the Indus Waters Treaty, giving Pakistan ownership of over three-fourths of the water the flows through the Indus System of Rivers located in Bharat. Pakistan reciprocated Nehru's gesture of goodwill by invading Bharat just five years later.
23. Hostility towards Sardar Patel's restoration of the Somnath Temple
24. Obstructing Sardar Patel's plan to liberate Hyderabad from the murderous Nizam
25. Nehru had a total impractical approach to integrating Kashmir with rest of Bharat. He didn't allow Sardar Patel to deal with Kashmir issue. Patel was quite successful in integrating other troubled regions such as Hyderabad Nizam's province with Bharat.
26. During the Indo-Pak war of 1948 when Bharat was gaining back the Kashmir captured by the invaders, he prematurely went to the UN Security Council. This was a great strategic mistake. Bharat now wants to distance itself from 3rd party intervention in the dispute and the UN resolutions on this, but it is Nehru who did it in the first place.
27. Moreover, We were winning the war against CHlNA but Nehru didn't allow Bhartiya Air Force to participate and we lost Aksai Chin area
28. No Initiative on Sri Lankan Tamil Problem
29. Giving Away 55 Crores to Pakistan
30. Usurping Congress Presidentship in 1929
31. Nehru’s Undemocratic Elevation as the First PM
32. Unplanned & Grossly Mismanaged Partition
33. Article-370 thanks to Nehru
34. Article 35A for J&K, Again thanks to Nehru
35. Ignoring Illegal Proselytization
36. Neglect of Agriculture
37. Throttled Industrialisation
38. Messy Reorganisation of States
39. Messing Up the Language Issue, Promoting Urdu & Persian-Arabic Script, Neglect of Sanskrit
40. Setting Jinnah on Path to Pakistan
41. Nehru–Liaquat Pact 1950
42. Erroneous Nehru-Era Map
43. Rebuffing Israel, the Friend-in-Need
44. Scoring Self-Goal—Ministry Resignations, 1939
45. Assam’s Security Compromised
46. Aborted ‘Cabinet Mission Plan’ for United Bharat
47. NWFP Blunder 1946
48. Distorted, Self-Serving Secularism & Minorityism
49. Not Seeking Reparations from the British; Nehru and the Distortion of Bhartiya History & Heritage
50. Paying Respects to Babar
51. Nehru & Netaji's Stolen War Chest
52. Gross Treatment of INA
53. Gross Treatment of Netąji Bose
54. Gross Treatment of Bhagat Singh & Azad
55. Gross Treatment of Veer Savarkar
56. Gross Treatment of Sardar Patel
57. Gross Treatment of Sardar Patel's Daughter Maniben
58. Gross Treatment of Ambedkar
59. Gross Treatment of Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee
60. Gross Treatment of Dr Rajendra Prasad
61. Gross Treatment of PD Tandon
62. Gross Treatment of Bordoloi
63. Gross Treatment of General Thimayya
64. Gross Treatment of Public
65. Special Treatment for Edwina Mountbatten
66. Giving himself a BharatRatna award that he hardly deserved.

[Vayutuvan]

It is not just economics it is cultural. The Japanese have a very high standard of living but are rarely obese.

Fish and seafood is a major part of their diet which is good source of protien and omega oils. Does that have something to do with lower obesity rates? What can Indian lacto-vegans do?

[vimal]

"Gifting the strategically located Coco Islands to Burma". This was done by Brits pre-partition.

[sanjaykumar]

We can not be sure about diet and obesity, cardiovascular risk etc.

For one, the genetics of Japanese populations are inevitably b different. I know the emigrants to Brazil have lost much of the culture of Japan- ritualised politeness, non aggression. Perhaps they would be good subjects of surveys. But again this population is perhaps more reflective of the Japan at the time of emigration. That is a Japan that was poor and as chaotic as India or China.

We do know that introduction of western diets can be devastating. There is the well known example of the choclate drinkers in South America and their very different health indices as they move off their island. I forget the name of the people.

In Canada diabetes, type 2 of course, was unknown in the aboriginal population as recently as 100 years ago. Now it is not rare to see diabetes in children!

Indian food should be close to ideal. Little or no meat. Plus huge variety of plants and fruits. I believe trans fats have now been banned in India. The omega 3 business is a bit vague. Humans do biosynthesise omega 3 from close precursors. Supplementation studies have not been promising.

The Japanese eat until they are 3/4 full, Indians eat as social glue , like Italians. Americans eat for entertainment.

There are game changing pharmacological interventions in the pipeline.

And indeed if the rich world eats less the planet will be a happier place. Resources, pollution, animal welfare, rewilding the earth, global warming. The benefits are extensive. There are third order benefits. Improved mood, less sick time increased capitalist productivity.

[chetak]

WA

Few people know that the wagah border is the name of pakistani side.

Indian side is known as the Attari Border.

Yet, we call it wagah border, instead of the Attari Border, which has been named after Sardar Shyam Singh Attari, the Army Chief of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, and the general who defeated the mughals.

Please try and spread this info

[bala]

Very uplifting conversation with lots of facts and figures by Infosys ex-CFO Mohandas Pai. Some recap of world geopolitics and how India rose up through Independence from the Britshits. A $ 1T investment cycle per year happening in India which is going to yield humongous dividends. PLI based semiconductors is going to change the game. Youthful demographics, scaling up manufacturing by 10x for export led economy, could multiply the growth factor. Many things are undervalued in India, e.g. PPP factor is 3.5, rupee is undervalued.



See another YT by Mohandas Pai on making India a $10T economy

[ramana]

"Gifting the strategically located Coco Islands to Burma". This was done by Brits pre-partition.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_Islands

Coco Islands were Indian all along.
The British were gifted to Burma in 1882.

The islands were once Indian possessions. They were on the ancient trade route between India, Burma and Southeast Asia and were regularly visited by ships.[2] In the 16th century, Portuguese sailors named the islands after the Portuguese word for coconut, coco.[citation needed] The East India Company took over the islands in the 18th century, later becoming part of the British Raj. The Cocos Islands provided food, mainly coconuts, to a penal colony at Port Blair on South Andaman Island; the colony was established in 1858 to hold prisoners from the Indian Rebellion of 1857.[3]

The islands were leased to the Jadwet family in the 1860s, who built a lighthouse on Table Island.[4] The islands were deemed too remote to administer from India after it took many weeks for the Chief Commissioner at Port Blair to learn of a murder at the lighthouse in 1877. Control was transferred to British Burma by 1882. The islands were commercially leased starting in 1878, but attempts to develop it over the next 60 years failed.[5] Burma retained the islands when it became a crown colony in 1937.[6] Japan occupied the islands from 1942 to 1945 during the Second World War.[7]

Burma regained independence in 1948 with control over the Coco Islands.

[bala]

The Indian system of Administration and Governance was largely inherited from the old ICS (Indian civil/criminal service) british system. The British trained ICS to carry forth their single goal of depleting resources/wealth of India and subjugating the populace to submission and cruelity. Towards this end, the ICS carried out criminal activity in India (e.g. organized drug trade worldwide) in the garb of governance/administration to further the goals of East India company (200 T loot, 200 million dead). Unfortunately India inherited the same system and renamed it to IAS in its current avatar.

Sanjeev Sanyal is an Economic Advisor to the Government of India talks about the Indian Tradition of Thought on Governance. Governance is a subjective and an opinionated topic, people have their ideas on what good governance looks like, what are the features of a functional governance setup or the principles and philosophies on which the governance should be based upon.

[chetak]

Coming next.. How mughals gave holi and diwali to us.

[Hriday]

There is a nice article in Malayalam published on 9 July 2023 by Manorama newspaper, Sunday supplement. It is about the Malayalam book, Malayali Oru Janithaka Vayana by Kochi police commissioner K.Sethuraman IPS. The book won the Kerala Sahitya Academy Award for scholarly literature in 2023.

The book says that genetics, historical records, old social customs etc show that birth-based caste practices started only in recent history due to politics and for grabbing power. He says that he went through over a thousand articles and books as part of the deep research for the book.

Couldn't find the book on Amazon, but DC Books sells it.

[sanjayc]

The book "CASTES OF MIND:COLONIALISM AND THE MAKING OF MODERN INDIA" reached the same conclusion -- caste as a recent phenomenon, as a result of India's colonial experience. Written by a canadian researcher.

When thinking of India, it is hard not to think of caste. In academic and common parlance alike, caste has become a central symbol for India, marking it as fundamentally different from other places while expressing its essence. Nicholas Dirks argues that caste is, in fact, neither an unchanged survival of ancient India nor a single system that reflects a core cultural value. Rather than a basic expression of Indian tradition, caste is a modern phenomenon — the product of a concrete historical encounter between India and British colonial rule. Dirks does not contend that caste was invented by the British. But under British domination caste did become a single term capable of naming and above all subsuming India’s diverse forms of social identity and organization.

Dirks traces the career of caste from the medieval kingdoms of southern India to the textual traces of early colonial archives; from the commentaries of an eighteenth-century Jesuit to the enumerative obsessions of the late-nineteenth-century census; from the ethnographic writings of colonial administrators to those of twentieth-century Indian scholars seeking to rescue ethnography from its colonial legacy. The book also surveys the rise of caste politics in the twentieth century, focusing in particular on the emergence of caste-based movements that have threatened nationalist consensus.

Castes of Mind is an ambitious book, written by an accomplished scholar with a rare mastery of centuries of Indian history and anthropology. It uses the idea of caste as the basis for a magisterial history of modern India. And in making a powerful case that the colonial past continues to haunt the Indian present, it makes an important contribution to current postcolonial theory and scholarship on contemporary Indian politics.

https://press.princeton.edu/books/paper ... es-of-mind

Smearing of Hindu society through caste is a fraud perpetrated by church and whites, using bogus history

[Cyrano]

Yes, J Sai Deepak refers to Dirk's work in his first book "India that is Bharat"

[venkat_kv]

Coming next.. How mughals gave holi and diwali to us.

Chetak Saar,
looks like the leftists are slipping. Rana Safvi didn't have to go to Shah Alam and Alamgir time, she could have tried to quote humayun who was sent a rakhi by the queen from Gujarat/Saurashtra and Humayun gave up his pursuit of sher shah and went to her rescue - was a little late and she had committed jauar, so he then chases the perpetrator for another 6 months and finally crushes him and this gives sher shah enough time to rise and drive the mughals away.

This was the standard trope fro Rakhi so far and the mythical Ganga Jamuna tehseeb. How can simple people keep track of so many changes as the reason for rakhi and mughals being its main proponents?

[bala]

Smearing of Hindu society through caste is a fraud perpetrated by church and whites, using bogus history

It is a safe bet that all history concocted by the Britshits during BritshitRaj of India is bogus and moreover lot of social engineering was done taking into consideration small differences amongst the Indian population. The havoc wrecked by Caldwell and GU Pope in the south by their Dravidian theory is still being played by Indian politicos. Things like Sati, Temple Devadasi system were engineered by the Britshits and furthered in the vile discourse about India. It is quite strange to see millions of Indians left behind by the Brits as Anglo-Indians in India, while the Brits projected themselves as a benign ruler of India. How do you explain this? The Brits were running a worldwide drug (poppy cultivation) trade, human trafficking trade, illicit slave trade and wanton destruction of India (200 T loot, 200 million dead) during BritshitRaj of India.

The Indian causality of WW-1 was 1.24 lakhs (124,000), fighting in trenches with spears and swords while the cowardly brit man stood in safe places. Gandhi helped with the recruiting of 13 lakh (1.3 million) Indian soldiers in the first world war.

The Indian casuality of WW-II was 4.18 lakhs (418,000), fighting in the most dangerous places while the cowardly brit man stood in safe places. Gandhi helped with the recruiting of 25 lakh (2.5 million) indian soldiers in the second world war.

None of the above is acknowledged by the Britshits let alone any compensation for the dead soldiers.

[sanman]

It appears the govt has introduced a bill for selection of Chief Election Commissioner, and it gives 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, and 1 remaining vote to the Opposition leader. Supreme Court had given a "ruling" back in March stating that CJI should have a vote. I don't agree with their ruling, or even their right to give such a ruling based on a mere petition. But I still don't agree with giving 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, because that could allow any ruling party to rig the system.

[vijayk]

It appears the govt has introduced a bill for selection of Chief Election Commissioner, and it gives 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, and 1 remaining vote to the Opposition leader. Supreme Court had given a "ruling" back in March stating that CJI should have a vote. I don't agree with their ruling, or even their right to give such a ruling based on a mere petition. But I still don't agree with giving 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, because that could allow any ruling party to rig the system.

That's how it has been done by congress for 70 years

[sanman]

I think it would be better to have a multi-party panel of Rajya Sabha members who could at least come up with the list of candidates, or else vote on a nominee chosen by PM.

[ramana]

It appears the govt has introduced a bill for selection of Chief Election Commissioner, and it gives 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, and 1 remaining vote to the Opposition leader. Supreme Court had given a "ruling" back in March stating that CJI should have a vote. I don't agree with their ruling, or even their right to give such a ruling based on a mere petition. But I still don't agree with giving 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, because that could allow any ruling party to rig the system.

sanman,
The Constituion gave that authority to the elected majority in the Parliament because power comes from the people.
Having 2 out of the 3 votes to the ruling party recognizes the power of the people and is hat tip to democracy.
Its the perogrative of elected power to appoint the executive functionaries. And elections ensure that bad parties are defeated.

Your highlighted comment is anti-democratic and thinks that Modiji is the same as the Congress system.
Just today the NCM process showed the differences.

There is no basis for an unelected entity like the CJI to have a say in the appointment of executive officers.

[krithivas]

There is precedence - E.g., CJI already has a seat at the table wrt ED directorate approval. It would be great to find out if Crescent Moon slithered in or if that predates him.

It appears the govt has introduced a bill for selection of Chief Election Commissioner, and it gives 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, and 1 remaining vote to the Opposition leader. Supreme Court had given a "ruling" back in March stating that CJI should have a vote. I don't agree with their ruling, or even their right to give such a ruling based on a mere petition. But I still don't agree with giving 2 out of 3 votes to the ruling govt, because that could allow any ruling party to rig the system.

sanman,
The Constituion gave that authority to the elected majority in the Parliament because power comes from the people.
Having 2 out of the 3 votes to the ruling party recognizes the power of the people and is hat tip to democracy.
Its the perogrative of elected power to appoint the executive functionaries. And elections ensure that bad parties are defeated.

Your highlighted comment is anti-democratic and thinks that Modiji is the same as the Congress system.
Just today the NCM process showed the differences.

There is no basis for an unelected entity like the CJI to have a say in the appointment of executive officers.

[sanman]

sanman,
The Constituion gave that authority to the elected majority in the Parliament because power comes from the people.
Having 2 out of the 3 votes to the ruling party recognizes the power of the people and is hat tip to democracy.
Its the perogrative of elected power to appoint the executive functionaries. And elections ensure that bad parties are defeated.

Your highlighted comment is anti-democratic and thinks that Modiji is the same as the Congress system.
Just today the NCM process showed the differences.

There is no basis for an unelected entity like the CJI to have a say in the appointment of executive officers.

But we should worry about the potential for any ruling party to rig the system. India has had some crooked govts in New Delhi in the past. What if one of them comes to power, and makes full use of these rules to rig things and entrench themselves into power? (especially if they have foreign backing)

I like the old American standard of two-thirds majority approval of posts like Supreme Court justices (a standard which they've now wrecked)
Requirement for two-thirds majority from a multi-party panel would be best, in my opinion.

[ricky_v]

sanman, what do you mean by the phrase "rig the system"? can you give some examples of this system rigging? especially in the center, even for the states, the sec can only negatively influence the panchayat elections.

[Cyrano]

Most Indian people recognised the role of EC with the arrival of TN Seshan. Which tells me irrespective of how an executive of the state is appointed he can either do an impartial job or buckle to pressure. All executive roles are the prerogative of the elected govt. This is the "basic structure" of our constitution.

[bala]

The China Threat traces the history and evaluates and infers the consequences of the political and military confrontations between India and China from the 15th to the 21st century. Malhotra argues that contrary to popular accounts of shared interests in the past, China and India’s relationship has been confrontational for over six centuries. During British Raj, opium was grown in India and sold to China. Chinese tea was planted in India and exported to the world.

The Soviets used resources (which stretches to Aksai Chin) in Xinjiang for the nuclear effort. Neverwho was adamant about non-alignment and signed of Tibet with the Chinese. IAF Canberras flew in 1960, 1961, 1962 taking photos of LopNor (the chinese nuclear site) and these were shared with the Brit M15 offices via the IB.



// lots of unknown nuggets of information is being revealed by Malhotra.

[krithivas]

This looks like a case where the Indian pharma manufacturer did not bribe enough that the syrup was poisoned by Uzbeks (or an unknown advesary) - After all Indian pharmaceuticals are in demand everywhere.

Uzbekistan says contaminated Indian cough syrup was on market due to bribery
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uz ... f7e7&ei=17

Seven of the 21 defendants pleaded guilty to at least some of the charges against them, which included tax evasion, sale of substandard or counterfeit medicines, abuse of office, negligence, forgery, and bribery.

[bala]

Does Modi Want to Bring A New Constitution 2.0 to Fix Judiciary? | Ankit Shah & Sanjay Dixit

Bibek Debroy's article on the need for a brand new Constitution of India has put the cat among the pigeons. Why is Constitution 2.0 required? To reverse the subversion by the Judiciary or for any other reason? Ankit Shah joins Sanjay Dixit to discuss.



// much of the constitution (a man made document, which is not sacrosanct) is based on colonialist 1935 India Act text (85%) and then amended from Colombia University's John Dewey (prof of BR Ambedkar). Ambedkar remarked that he would burn the existing constitution doc as proposed. Ambedkar was not the author, he was chairman of the drafting committee which drafted/wrote nothing for the Indian constitution but was a rubber stamp for colombia inspired document of John Dewey. John Dewey was the author of CCCP Mao Red Book. Western Abrahamic thinking has gone into the constitution, instead of Dharmic India thinking. Dharma is diametrically opposite to the western thinking. There are many other concepts unique to India, many terms are untranslatable from the original sanskrit term (e.g. God is not Brahman, soul is not atma, dharma includes karma which is not acceptable in western thinking since they have 1 life, they have salvation which is opposed to the theory of karma). Bharat had Janapadhas, with autonomous defense mechanism. So a union of states makes no sense.

[chetak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8o4qJfRhts


Islamic-Communist-Leftist forces in India | Adv Monika Arora | #SangamTalks

About the Talk:
The leftist narrative that has been a part of education system since last seventy years has tried to propagate falsehoods against Hindu leaders, revolutionaries and religious icons. Hindus should be ready to fight back armed with Rashtravaad and power of Sanatan.

The 'Dismantling Global Hindutva' Conference organized by Hinduphobic and Hindumisic Islamic-Leftist-Communist organizers required a befitting and hard-hitting response to expose the real issues plaguing every civilization and especially Hindus.

Hindu Ecosystem under the leadership of Sh Kapil Mishra and Sangam Talks partnered to make this highly insightful and powerful Conference together for exactly this cause.

About the Speaker:
Advocate Monika Arora is an Indian lawyer practicing in the Supreme Court of India, the High Court of Delhi and District Courts.[1][2] She represents Government of India as its Standing Counsel in Delhi High Court. Arora graduated from Hindu College, Delhi University, with post-graduate degrees in law.
She won many awards and scholarships during her student life when she studied at the University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. She also received Sahitya Shri Award from Hindi Sahitya Sammelan for her contribution in the field of education.
She was enrolled as an Advocate with Bar Council of Delhi in 2007.
She has appeared for many high profile cases. And she is the author of 'Delhi Riots 2020: The untold story'.

Full Video -

• Dismantling Global Islamic-Communist ...

Topics Covered:
0:00 Swami Vivekananda at Parliament of World Religions on 9/11, 1893
1:25 Jihadi Fanaticism has engulfed the world
2:55 War of ideology, Hindus' securiy is compromised
4:20 Leftist claim our freedom fighters to be terrorists
5:10 fake narratives propagated against Hindu Icons in textbooks
6:59 Network exposed in the court of Law
8:20 Freedom of religion can't be Anti-majority
9:40 Delhi Riots of 2020
11:00 JNU's student organisation hires senior advocates
12:15 Toxic media articles supportin leftist narrative
13:45 The menace needs to be tackled at all levels
14:30 Hindus have survived all invasions with Rashtra first ideology

[bala]

Everywhere in academic circles you keep hearing about Greek contribution towards western ideals and knowledge base. In fact, the colonialist pushed the narrative that the fountainhead of civilization is from Greece & Rome. A noted Indian historian Jeffrey Armstrong of the US says that this is rubbish, since before these worthies came on the scene, ancient India civilized ancient Greece & Rome. Nalanda University had 9 million manuscripts which were burnt (burned over 3 months after setting fire) by Turkic mamluks, Bakhtiyar Khilji in 1193 AD. The Sanskrit word Adhikary morphed into Educary and then Education. OX + FORD = Place where ox crosses the river. Universities like Oxford, Harvard are riding on a high horse of false theories (ox shit, bullshit) and they refuse pure knowledge/facts to change their high falutin wrong muddle headed thinking.

The Roman senate has in writing that they have to stop spending money on getting silk sarees from India. Jeffrey also notes that in the Roman Senate until 325 AD there was no mention of a physical person called Jesus. Thanks to Jeffrey Armstrong for the enlightening talk on the greatness of Indian Veda (knowledge) and how Greek / Roman history has freely imbibed the huge knowledge base of Hindu Sanatana Dharma over centuries. Many ideas in science, math, religion, logic and other sciences were a straight copy of Indian thoughts and concepts 1-to-1. There is no doubt at all that the entire corpus of Greek literature/history reflects that of India.

[sanman]

Regarding the proposal for One Big Synchronized Election for the country, at first I really liked this idea. But more recently I've come to worry that it could create huge opportunity for foreign election-rigging.
If foreigners concentrate all their efforts on our one big election, then they could grab lots of power for themselves and dominate us.
What do you all think?

[chetak]

Indian-origin Tharman Shanmugaratnam wins Singapore's presidential election. Secures 70.4 Per Cent Votes

https://www.livemint.com/news/indianori ... 83519.html

[bala]

Story of Bharat No One Told You - hidden secrets of BharatVarsh by Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan



// I hope this rekindles the Youth of India to study their past and discover the huge Gems that are hidden. There is so much material in Sanskrit (some lost due to the burning of Nalanda books/texts by invaders of India).

[bala]

In slide at around 1:01:00 Narayanan talks about 65-66 million years ago a meteor struck the earth and killed of the diansaurs/living beings on Laurasia and Gondwana.

This is from my book:

Around 65 million years ago, the earth was rained by massive meteorites from space and since the earth rotates this rain of meteorite stones was not in one single spot. The rain of stones raised a cloud of nano particles and the incoming meteorites took out life as well as brought a new form of life on planet earth. The biggest meteorite hit which caused massive fissures in earth’s crust happened in the west coast of India, off shore from Maharashtra, causing the largest crater on the planet earth, 600x400 km wide. The meteorite hit triggered huge volcanic eruptions causing the Deccan plateau and Western Ghats and eventually pushing the Indian plate crust northwards/eastwards. Hot gases released in the air played a major role in the cretaceous-paleogene extinction event. The level of atmospheric oxygen plummeted in the early Paleogene Period. Geologists have found evidence of iridium along with shocked quartz, which means there was a meteorite impact. Iridium is a very rare element in the Earth's crust, but is found in high concentrations (around 100 times greater than normal) in a thin worldwide layer of clay marking the boundary between the Cretaceous and Paleogene periods, 65 million years ago.

The meteorite brought in DNA strands that caused the creation of current mankind and hence India called these stones as Shiva linga. Lingam in Sanskrit means sign/ mark/ inference/ symbol/ gender/ time scale, e.g. bhootalingam means past tense, bhavilingam means future, Napunsaka lingam means neutral gender. The stones were seeding the earth with DNA and are heavy, laden with Iridium and Rhodium. Piton de la Fournaise is a shield volcano on the eastern side of Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean and it is currently one of the most active volcanoes in the world and its lavas, with high concentrations of iridium, are routinely ejected through the vents. NASA has studied these meteorites and concluded that DNA strands are found. DNA components (adenine, guanine and related organic molecules) were made in outer space. Murchison meteorite yielded the first signs of amino acids from outside the earth – many of them are quite rare on Earth and hence came from outside. RNA component uracil and related molecules, including xanthine, were formed extraterrestrially. Amino acids produced biologically occur in only one chiral form, the left, whereas the meteorite showed equal numbers of both left and right forms.

The Narmada river bana-lingam are considered the place were the human species were born initially. The fossil of the Narmada man’s skull was found at Hatnora. The black Shiva Lingam meteorite stone delivered Tvasta (seed) to planet earth, in the form of the double helix coiled serpents which cannot be destroyed, as mentioned in Rig Veda and gave life in living creatures. All life on Earth is powered by a process called chemiosmosis, where the chemical adenosine triphosphate (ATP), the rechargeable chemical 'battery' for life, is both broken down and re-formed during respiration to release energy used to drive the reactions of life, or metabolism. Earthly phosphorus is the key element in ATP, and other fundamental building blocks of life like DNA, is largely insoluble in water and has a low chemical reactivity. The complex enzymes SAGALA (sanskrit, everything) required for both the creation and break down of ATP came from black meteorite stones (Shiva Lingams) which rained on earth from the sky. This seed containing stone is allegorically called Lord Shiva’s phallus. A combination of water and ultraviolet light on shiva lingam meteorite pieces can release cyanide. In fact, Shiva Lingams have delivered billions of tons of organic prebiotic elements to Earth. A little known fact is that all Temple Spires in India contain Iridium.

In the Vedas, Marthanda is the physically deformed cast away son of Nebula, Aditi. Aditi cast away her 8th son Marthanda as he was mis-shapen - Rig Veda Mandala10 - Sukta-72 (10-72). Aditi is the mother of all mothers and Daksha is father of fathers. It is actually a huge energized mass of rock which revolves round the sun every 12500 years and at perigee causes a lot of disturbances on planet earth. In the Rig Veda, Aditi is mentioned more than 80 times. Aditi is DevaMatri (mother of the Isvaras) as from and in her cosmic matrix all the heavenly bodies were born. As the celestial virgin and mother of every existing form and being the synthesis of all things, she is highest Akasa. As the womb of space, she is a feminized form of Brahma. The line in the Rig-Veda: "Daksha sprang from Aditi and Aditi from Daksha" has reference to "the eternal cyclic re-birth of the same divine Essence". In one of its most mystic aspects, Aditi is divine wisdom or consciousness. The Vedas talk about an energy-genetic connection between the Galactic center (Bindu in Sri Yantra) and DNA molecule. Intelligent waves of the core energy are called SOMVARTA which are responsible for the spontaneous evolution of species on earth. When the sun is aligned with galactic (Bindu) equator then mankind will understand the intelligent force residing in the DNA. Marthanda is the binary star from where Shiva Lingams (black meteorite stones with DNA seed) rained on earth in Narmada River and life started.

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[ramana]

Same factors can expalin UPA defeat in 2014

Link: https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/999897

New study uncovers the Causes of the Qing Dynasty's Collapse
Peer-Reviewed Publication
COMPLEXITY SCIENCE HUB VIENNA

Flag of the Qing Dynasty (1889-1912)
IMAGE: AFTER OVER 250 YEARS, THE QING DYNASTY IN CHINA COLLAPSED.



The Qing Dynasty in China, after over 250 years, crumbled in 1912. Led by the Complexity Science Hub (CSH), an international research team has pinpointed key reasons behind the collapse, revealing parallels to modern instability and offering vital lessons for the future.



China is considered today to be the world's largest economy (in terms of PPP). However, this position is not new. In 1820, China's economy already held the top spot, accounting for 32.9% of the global GDP. In the interim, there was a period of decline followed by a resurgence. In 1912, after over 250 years in power, the Qing Dynasty collapsed despite being considerably wealthier at the time than modern-day China. "This clearly demonstrates that any economy must be vigilant as circumstances can change, and sometimes rather rapidly," emphasizes Georg Orlandi, the study's first author.

SIMILAR ROOTS THEN AND NOW

"It's crucial to comprehend the origins of such instabilities. Assuming it's a thing of the past and can't recur would be a mistake. Such changes can indeed happen because the underlying mechanisms bear surprising similarities," CSH researcher Peter Turchin points out.

Scientists have been attempting to pinpoint the causes behind the fall of the Qing Dynasty for two centuries. Various factors had previously been proposed, including environmental disasters, foreign incursions, famines, or uprisings. However, "none of these factors provides a comprehensive explanation," notes Turchin.

THREE MAIN DRIVERS

Hence, in this study, researchers amalgamated various factors and discovered that three elements dramatically heightened socio-political pressures:

Firstly, there was a fourfold population explosion between 1700 and 1840. This resulted in reduced land per capita and caused an impoverishment of the rural populace.

Secondly, this led to increased competition for elite positions. While the number of contenders soared, the number of awarded highest academic degrees declined, reaching its nadir in 1796. Because such a degree was necessary for obtaining a position in the powerful Chinese bureaucracy, this mismatch between the number of positions and those desiring them created a large pool of disgruntled elite aspirants. The leaders of the Taiping Rebellion, perhaps the bloodiest civil war in human history, were all such failed elite-wannabes.

{E.g. The leftists in India who cant get jobs and become disgruntled anarchists}

Thirdly, the state's financial burden escalated due to rising costs associated with suppressing unrest, declining per capita productivity, and mounting trade deficits stemming from depleting silver reserves and opium imports.

Collectively, these factors culminated in a series of uprisings that heralded the end of the Qing Dynasty and exacted a heavy toll in terms of Chinese lives lost.

THE QING WERE AWARE

According to the study's findings, social tensions had already peaked between 1840 and 1890. "Assuming that the Qing rulers were unaware of this mounting pressure would be erroneous," explains Turchin. The fact that the dynasty endured until 1912 rather underscores its institutional structures' robustness.

However, many of their attempted solutions proved short-sighted or inadequate to the task; for instance, the government raised the allowable quota for people passing certain degree exams but without increasing the number of available openings. This ended up exacerbating the already-building tensions. With the arrival of potent geopolitical challengers through the late 19th century, the rulers ultimately couldn't avert their downfall.

PREVENT INSTABILITY TODAY

We can draw valuable lessons from this historical process for the contemporary era and the future. Many nations worldwide are grappling with potential instability and conditions that closely resemble those of the Qing Dynasty. For instance, competition for top positions remains exceedingly fierce. Orlandi cautions, "When a large number of individuals vie for a limited number of positions, political decision-makers should view this as a red flag, as it can, at the very least, lead to heightened instability."

"Unfortunately, the corrosive impact of rising inequality and diminishing opportunities develop over longer time scales that make them hard to recognize,” adds co-author and CSH Affiliated Researcher Daniel Hoyer, “let alone effectively combat within the short political cycles we see in many countries. Without long-term vision and targeted strategies to relieve these social pressures, many places are at risk of going the way of the Qing."

NO CRYSTAL BALLS
"We aren't prophets. Our primary aim is to comprehend social dynamics, which we can then leverage for making forecasts," elucidates Orlandi. The effectiveness of this endeavor using the Structural Demographic Theory (SDT), a method co-developed by Peter Turchin that represents societies as complex interactive systems, has been demonstrated by researchers on multiple occasions. For instance, a study published in 2010 forecasted the 2020 instability in the USA.

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FIND OUT MORE

The study “Structural-demographic analysis of the Qing Dynasty (1644–1912) collapse in China” by Georg Orlandi, Daniel Hoyer, Hongjun Zhao, James S. Bennett, Majid Benam, Kathryn Kohn and Peter Turchin was published in PLOS ONE (doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0289748).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv5Opbksx7o


V S NAIPAUL Ek Din Ek Jeevan An Interview by Tavleen Singh

Sir V. S. Naipaul talks about a wounded civilization: "I feel Hindu India, the only Hindu India, was probably much more fatally wounded than the people are willing to admit here."

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There is a lot of belching from the opposition for changing India to Bharat. Here are some ancient text referring to Bharat. From the Vast Vigyan of the great Bharata Maharishis (महर्षि)/ Gurus (गुरु) and the tatvas of Avatars (अवतार) that graced this world in Matra-bhumi Bharata (भारत).

Vishnu Purana 2.1.31
ततश्च भारतं वर्षमेतल्लोकेषुगीयतेभरताय यत: पित्रा दत्तं प्रतिष्ठिता वनम
This country is known as Bharatavarsha, since the time the father entrusted the Kingdom to the son, and himself, went to the forest for ascetic practices.

Bhagavad Gita 12.27
यावत्सञ्जायते किञ्चित्सत्वं स्थावरजङ्गमम् | क्षेत्रक्षेत्रज्ञसंयोगात्तद्विद्धि भरतर्षभ || 27||
yāvat sañjāyate kiñchit sattvaṁ sthāvara-jaṅgamam
kṣhetra-kṣhetrajña-sanyogāt tad viddhi bharata-ṛiṣhabha
O best of the Bharatas (Arjuna), whatever moving or unmoving being you see in existence, know it to be a combination of the field of activities and the knower of the field.

Rishabh was born to Merudevi, Bharat was born to Rishabh, Bharatvarsha was named from Bharat, and Sumati arose from Bharat. Arjuna is descendant of Rishabh and Bharat. Sri Krishna addresses Arjuna as Bharata Rishbha (भरतर्षभ || BG 12.27||)