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yes, 33 was offed today, lawrence bishnoi seems like an intriguing person, he has taken the claim for the hit though he is currently in ahmedabad jail

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/gangste ... da-4409643

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he has also taken responsibility for the killing of the singer sidhu moose wala, most likely hafta vasooling and clearing out the turf, but his image in the sm-verse has patriotic shades, what's the qrd on moose wala?
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Shared Heritage of India, Central Asia - this is a fascinating historical perspective. India dominated trade by land and sea. The silk route is recent and pushed by China exclusively. Trade was done even during the Islamic rule of India. The British killed this practice wholesale. Afghanistan as a nation never existed, the britshits created this entity.

India has a huge hospital in Tajikistan and lots of doctors from India practice there. The stan nations are afraid of Russia and China and want India to moderate their influence on them.

Lots of mind boggling depth of knowledge with clarity of vision by Maj General Rajiv Narayanan

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I thought modern Afghanistan was created by Durrani when he killed Nadir Shah following a raid on North India.

Until then it was a province of Persia and had earlier been a part of the Mughal Empire.
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More details on IMEC.. some hidden reasons behind saudi india deal.

Aadi Achint lays out some details.



SA is claiming IMEC is the Silk Route + Spice route combined for the current generation.
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Similar to the 1932 China map (first put out by Major General Rajiv Narayanan and Aadi Achint) which went viral considering that the "china map" put out by Emperor Eleven in defiance of the world, we have a map of Pak. These areas are well known to Indians in this forum. But the question is one needs to understand the people of these areas and if and when there is a huge fissure in Pak, then India needs to know how to deal with them.

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Scott Ritter blows apart the carefully crafted facade of western countries and their intelligence agencies:



Note the part where he says infiltrating diaspora and using them against their former country has been going on for decades. Be it Ukraine against Russia or Muslims and Sikhs against Bharat, there are presumably many other examples.

Given this, the outreach of Modi govts towards pravaas bharatiyas takes a wholly different dimension that is not aimed at just remittances or cultural festivals or shows of popularity, but this sustained effort to take care of our people is seen by Modi ji as a matter critical to national security and has deep strategic implications.
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IGCNA book on
Medieval Indian Legacy

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I want us to create a post with links like this site at Yale on Cina studies centers in India

https://southasia.macmillan.yale.edu/re ... es-centers
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Understanding Eastern Arunachal Pradesh (entire Arunachal is about 91000 Sq Km).

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A general observation: The level of interest in this forum on American interventions and perspectives on the Indian subcontinent has gone down significantly over the past couple of decades.

Either the number of Indian Americans on this forum has gone down or the proclivity of Indians to seek US perspectives on all issues originating in Indian subcontinent has diminished significantly compared to how it was 20 Years ago.

This is a welcome development as it helps us Indians develop a uniquely desi perspective on world affairs devoid of the white man's tinted lenses
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Paul, The idea of a non-Western world view was enunciated by Dr S. Jaishankar. That in itself is a win for the Strat Froum!
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Ramana, the first avatar of that thread was started by yours truely....starting from an article on how the Ottomans funded the Lutheran movement in medieval Europe to offshore balance the Catholics who were daggers drawn with them.....Johann took umbrage at those insinuations.

Now that article or that topic has disappeared from the web..not to found anywhere.
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Indian Genetic history is well elucidated by Dr. Niraj Rai, hindi bhasha mein hai ...



We Indians are all harappans. There have been some migrations of outside people into India (India during ancient times was similar to the US where outsiders migrate into US) however their traits were subsumed by the Indian genetic trait. R1 A1 gene is all pervasive throughout India. R1 A1 has the most diversity and is very ancient. Many samples from diverse regions of India, including andamans were studied. So, the story is out of India migration happened as far as R1 A1 gene is concerned. This finding by Niraj Rai is going to be published soon.

Dr. Niraj Rai is warning about lack of genetic diversity, endogamic traits in certain communities wherein marriage exists with close relatives and food supply tainted with steroids, other additives, fertilizer, etc. Genetic testing is required prior to marriage and child bearing. Infertility between couples is high in India due to incompatibility due to genetics and sometimes even food. As India transitions to middle class, stress is increasing and introducing all kinds of issues. Food supply is becoming increasing polluted, GMO food is another ruining factor. Fish which is eaten by many has mercury and other dangerous pollutants. These pollutants remain in your body for a long time. Milk has oxytocin introduced by large dairy farms. There is A1 vs A2 milk. A2 milk is available in Indian cows (e.g. vechoor humped cow) and buffaloes. A2 milk is good for you. A1 milk is the western cow like Jersey cow. People who are lactose intolerant cannot drink A1 milk, A2 milk is fine. Wheat and Rice are fraught with issues. Ancient grains, bajra, ragi, millet, quinoa, etc are much better for the human body.

Manganese and selenium are lacking in Indians and this is required for the human body. Supplements are a big industry worldwide.
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This is too much gnan of wrong sort.
About 20% of couples can conceive due to many reasons.
Even Puranas and Epics tell that.
Now IVF is there.
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My niece in India aged 9 was having vaginal bleeding advised by the gynecologist to stop drinking cow milk and the problems stopped. She gave the same reason - cows generally give less milk than buffaloes and are regularly being doped with hormones to increase milk production, which despite boiling the milk seem to still impact metabolism.

Many in my family including a doctor developed lactose intolerance after moving to the US, which they didn't have before.

At least on this part the guy may be right.
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Cyrano wrote: 07 Oct 2023 12:17 My niece in India aged 9 was having vaginal bleeding advised by the gynecologist to stop drinking cow milk and the problems stopped. She gave the same reason - cows generally give less milk than buffaloes and are regularly being doped with hormones to increase milk production, which despite boiling the milk seem to still impact metabolism.

Many in my family including a doctor developed lactose intolerance after moving to the US, which they didn't have before.

At least on this part the guy may be right.
Have observed the same. People who never had lactose/peanut/other allergies in India have them after moving to US or their kids have developed it. Not sure what the reason is though. In India, even now, lactose/peanut allergies are still very very low compared to US per capita bases (based on anecdotic data), where as it is much more in US, and many airlines/schools etc have epipens for emergencies if people get severe allergies accidentally. There will be at least a handful of students in each public school who have nut allergies etc
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Allergies are very common in the US , to the extent if I invite kids for my sons birthday party, we have to know all of the allergies for all kids and make sure the food is in compliance. Anything sent to the school ( for sons birthday etc.) has to be packaged and contain nutrition information.
I did not even know what allergies were growing up in India.
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putnanja wrote: 07 Oct 2023 12:26
Cyrano wrote: 07 Oct 2023 12:17 My niece in India aged 9 was having vaginal bleeding advised by the gynecologist to stop drinking cow milk and the problems stopped. She gave the same reason - cows generally give less milk than buffaloes and are regularly being doped with hormones to increase milk production, which despite boiling the milk seem to still impact metabolism.

Many in my family including a doctor developed lactose intolerance after moving to the US, which they didn't have before.

At least on this part the guy may be right.
Have observed the same. People who never had lactose/peanut/other allergies in India have them after moving to US or their kids have developed it. Not sure what the reason is though. In India, even now, lactose/peanut allergies are still very very low compared to US per capita bases (based on anecdotic data), where as it is much more in US, and many airlines/schools etc have epipens for emergencies if people get severe allergies accidentally. There will be at least a handful of students in each public school who have nut allergies etc
Lactose intolerance doesn't work like this. It is more likely that the increased ingestion of dairy along with other animal products after settling in the US is causing more health issues.
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Pizza alone will do that. Add bread and you got gluten issues.
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This is a fascinating talk by Dr. Ankit Shah on Bharat and IMEC. Two themes de-dollarization and de-radicalization are being pursued in parallel. The US with Dollar pre-eminence is caught in a situation where there are more dollars circulating outside the US. They are therefore trying to clamp down on this. The Britshits first started the pound as the pre-eminent currency in the world, but due to the decline of the empire the mantle has been taken by the US. During Nixon era the printing of money without a gold backing unleashed dollar circulation worldwide. The Oil trade was bound to the dollar.

Ankit believes that when nations are sanctioned on the one hand, the US MIC cuts a deal for sale of Arms on the other hand. This effectively causes the drying up dollars for one nation and in exchange the MIC sells arms goods for dollars. Pretty neat. Now the areas of hot spots in the world are being subjected to de-radicalization. Iran is at the receiving end of the Israel-Hamas fight. Israel and Saudi have a good understanding despite all the recent rhetoric from Saudi. In fact Ankit believes that Saudi would become jewish (tauba, tauba) as part of greater Israel, UAE will become hindu and Iran will become christians (due to the evangelist who would flood in after Israel with US takes care of Iran). India is in a sweet spot to revive the ancient non-oil trade routes that existed for centuries. Sorry China! BTW POK is up next for de-radicalization.

Ankit is at another level, chanakyian thinking at the best.



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We have all read in school that Greek Alexander defeated King Porus of India. However Marshal Zhukov says that Alexander failed in India invasion. Alexander’s invasion of India is regarded as a huge Western victory against the disorganised East. But according to Marshal Georgy Zhukov, the largely Macedonian army suffered a fate worse than Napoleon in Russia.

In 1957, while addressing the cadets of the Indian Military Academy, Dehra Dun, Zhukov said Alexander’s actions after the Battle of Hydaspes suggest he had suffered an outright defeat. In Zhukov’s view, Alexander had suffered a greater setback in India than Napoleon in Russia. Napoleon had invaded Russia with 600,000 troops; of these only 30,000 survived, and of that number fewer than 1,000 were ever able to return to duty.

Note: Marshal Zhukov was the commander of Russian Red Army which pushed the Nazi army from Stalingrad all the way back to Berlin.
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Hindenburg exposed a ponzi scheme targeting Indian American investors.
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This is a good topic to understand - Indian Marriage Systems & Geo-economics by Dr. Ankit Shah.

The central point is about family as a unit is rooted in Sanatan Dharma wisdom (honed over thousands of years of civilization). Traditionally women due to farming shaped the marriage system and took responsibility of raising the family with production of children to further the family unit. Both man and animal were tamed by the StreeNari and the man entered into sensible monogamous relationship with joint responsibility for the children produced by marriage. Naturally the wealth of the family (primarily held by the women) like gold, stored grains, cattle, etc contributed to the wealth of the nation. Empowerment in the Indian sense is very different and totally different than the western model. The current Judicial system, is about enforcement of fines/compensation without really worrying about true Justice. That is why many in the west/japan/china etc are abandoning marriage. The fiat single currency model started with pound and now dollar, promised all kinds of incentives for the individual (social security, healthcare, etc) and broke the family structure willfully. In a family unit there is shared responsibility including taking care of the elderly. India was more interested in preserving the family unit and the many social relationships that accrue from the family unit. Social interaction caused festivals caused exchange of goods/services and in general held society cohesion without invoking laws/police/etc. India has the lowest ratio of police stations in the world. Sanatan Dharma implies good behavior at all times and treating each other like your family member. There is no concept of father's day, mother's day like in the west because children are taught to always respect their parents every day and value/treasure them at all times. The guru in India was a highly respected/revered individual and oftentimes your own father is your guru. We in India don't see psychopaths/gruesome murders/mayhem like in the West since the society is self policing to a large extent and the individual is guided by shraddha (that cosmic all prevading consciousness which acts as an inner voice). Even an ax murderer has the inner voice telling him that it is wrong. In Sanatan Dharma we have karma which acts as a natural inhibitor of heinous acts, since you are ultimately responsible for your actions and you face consequences in your multiple rebirths.

The family unit must be preserved and cherished since it is the only safety mechanism for living peacefully and progressing economically on a sure footed basis.

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Indian media seem to depend on foreign reports like the one recently published by the US Pentagon, because apparently we don't publish such reports on ourselves. What does that say about us?



(We need Pokhran-3)
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Says these days, we aren't scared and cry "danger! danger !!" at the first sign of possible threat. Says, it doesnt matter if the media sources its "intel" from the west, our govt, forces & agencies do not wait for such reports to fall from sky (with suspect timing I must add) and have their antenna up and plans and capabilities ready all the time.

Sometimes, it's better to let the attacker attack to decimate him and his capabilities and come out on top on multiple fronts.

Trust your leaders and forces mitron.
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https://twitter.com/wonderores/status/1 ... 9128875382
Why can't we do this in India?
While missionaries invest billions in India for Christian conversion
But Wonders are happening back in their home Sanatana entered their home dancing with boundless love for Yoga Yogeshwar Shree Krshna
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This YT in Jaipur Diaglogues, presents the topic of Freedom of Speech. Covers many relevant areas. The panel has ex-muslim Sahil, Amber Zaidi who is against triple talak, Nupur J. Sharma, and others. I think this topic is appropriate in this thread.

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EAM Jaishankar on leadership of India and it's foreign policy..

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Anand Ranganathan, Kapil Mishra, Sandeep Balakrishna, Sumit Peer with moderator Avinash Dharmadhikari assess the constitution of the country, its relevance for present day India and its people, and whether amendments are enough or India needs Republic 2.0.

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// this is an important topic. The Indian constitution was shaped largely by Prof John Dewey (BR Ambedkar's prof) at Columbia Univ. John Dewey wrote the Red Book for Mao. India requires a constitution in keeping with its tradition, vast civilization experience and not import Abrahmic concepts into such a key document. Many nations including BritshitStan don't have a constitution. The constitution of India is a thick tome, which no one has completely understood, it is an amalgamation of many things in typical univ fashion put together by an academic prof. Cut and paste galore from various topical discussions in univ courses. Frankly no one understands the nuances of such text and why are they there in the first place. If you cannot explain a doc to an average intelligent citizen, then what use is such a doc. Many justices hide behind the convoluted text and interpret whatever pleases them.

The Indian tradition of Dharma, Chanakya Neeti and ethos of Bharat are not reflected in the constitution. In fact it has conveniently bypassed all things Bharat. There are so many Sanskrit texts on governance. BTW only in India, one can pass Sanskrit exams by writing in English! The constitution is not sacrosanct, it is a doc written by humans and decided by a committee of humans to adopt the doc.
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Even though India/Bharat is majority Hindu (Sanatan Dharma), the hindus are being harassed by BritShit instilled values/rules/courts/justices/politicians/babus/officials and appeasement to the minority faiths continues at every turn. Ayodhya recently got a verdict from Supreme Court to go ahead and build a temple for Ram (an avatar). The rest of them like Mathura, Kashi are under so many strictures, hindus cannot file a case in court to retrieve their holy places. Many states have taken over Hindu temples and the money collected is squandered on many useless projects. Why is this happening in a democracy?

Anand Ranganathan introduces his book, "Hindus in Hindu Rashtra," which delves into the challenges faced by Hindus, who often find themselves treated as eighth-class citizens in their own nation and face discrimination at the hands of the minority community of the country. Jaipur Dialogues:



In western nations, religious places are left alone and managed by private people. In TN for example we have a nut case in the govt opposed to Sanatan Dharma, when his mother practices sanatan dharma. If he had said this against minority religion he would definitely be in Jail. T. R. Ramesh is going to court for freeing the temples and the TN Govt puts him in jail (see the irony). Most of the temples (40,000+) are under state govt control and govt people dip into cash collections for nefarious activities.
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Title : The trouble with Third World leftists
Author : Gautam Sen
Publication : The Indian Express
Date : March 12, 1997




The failure of Third World elites to understand the West is partly
due to what can be described as sample bias, although private
career interests are important as well. Their exposure to the West
is primarily through its universities which are relatively liberal
though largely powerless. And exposure to the Left in countries
like the UK is especially consequential because, while their
radical views have little impact on their own societies, they
successfully brainwash Third World elites who wield power at home.
Academics like Maurice Dobb and Harold Laski who decisively
perverted the world-view of a whole generation of Indians were
cranks, irrelevant to the governing elites of Britain. But even
now Indians recall these names with misguided awe.
The principal damage inflicted by such Western duplicity is to
encourage Third World intellectuals to oppose their domestic ruling
order implacably, in the name of the class struggle, even if it
fatally undermines the state apparatus. The dire necessity of a
strong state, domestic social cohesion and military prowess are
thus opposed by this strata of Third World society.
The other lamentable deficiency in their education is the obsession
with the idea of progress. The consequence is the belief that the
world is gradually becoming a better place and Western societies
and their politicians today are better than their ruthless
predecessors. There is no evidence for sustaining this conviction,
but it aids old-fashioned re-conquest of the Third World.
The Left in the UK is completely united with its government in the
murderous project in Iraq. One Israeli diplomat has remarked that
Saddam Hussein was always his country's preferred choice because he
was the only politician capable of preventing Iraq from allying
with either Syria and/or Iran - "he represents equilibrium", he
asserted. According to him, the US and its allies had always
supported Saddam and it was only his nuclear ambitions that
prompted intervention.
The allure of international seminars as well as the fear of
traditional bases of Third World protest, inevitably religious,
reinforces the covert and, increasingly, public support of Third
World Leftists for Western imperialism. The backing of the
international Left and its Third World allies for the mass murder
taking place in Algeria is a case in point. India's secular Left
wing defenders of Islam quickly adopt the militant anti-Islamic
rhetoric of their Western sponsors as soon as they land at the
airport!
Given the enduring influence of colonial education, only prolonged
and deep estrangement from the dominant Western intellectual
perspective allows one to see things differently. China's elites,
unlike India's, are relatively immune, because they do not
understand English and cannot therefore absorb this virus as a
matter of course.
It is noteworthy that the two societies which gave authentic
verdict to significant recent events are theocracies that value
their intellectual autonomy. Iran was perturbed by the destruction
of Iraq during the Gulf War despite Iraq's bloody aggression
against it earlier. And Israel lodged the solitary protest against
the mass murder of Bosnia's Muslims. The ignorant and sycophantic
Indians sent a parliamentary delegation to Belgrade to commiserate
with Slobodan Milosevic, the architect of genocide in Bosnia.
A momentous military and economic re-conquest is therefore
occurring without the necessary response on a war-footing from the
elites of countries like India. Western powers are penetrating and
occupying the Third World through investment and trade, helped
powerfully by the control of international credit and treaties like
the World Trade Organisation as well as the transmission of ideas
and sources of individual reward. The military dimension of this
policy has already been demonstrated in Iraq, with terrible
consequences for its civilian population. India, Iran and North
Korea are now in the firing line.
(The writer is a lecturer in the politics of the world economy at
the London School of Economics)

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Finally, the Britshits famine death toll (the largest holocaust in the world) is being openly discussed in forums like Jaipur Dialogs. Then there are huge number of wanton deaths in the Mughal era, the Turkic era and so on. You know that one of your great-great grandfathers/mothers were brutally terminated by the invader rulers of India. The total number of deaths caused far exceeds any other civilization or nation in the world.

After the false narratives of the leftist historians, Indians are waking up and learning that we were/are being fed with fairy tales instead of reality. The stench of their writing still lingers on and sadly there are fans of their writing in India & Videshi lands. The Videshi land false profs love them.

The entire Britshit account of Indian Raj under their King/Queen's rule is one BS concocted nonsense, none of it is true. The Britshits grew poppy and were drug peddlars for the whole world. They were into all kinds of nefarious trade, including slave and women trafficing. The Britshit ICS were trained in the fine art of looting India and looking like pure benign rulers. India still persists with Britshit created systems, each one of them were created to tyrannize the aam adhmi.

The sanctimonious constitution does not reflect the Indian ethos. The Brit inspired Indian justice system is some ancient archaic system, with time wasting tactics and crony judicial activism in-built. One smart AI program can obviate the services of the army of useless justices, lawyers and other cling-ons in the judicial system. Time to throw out the entire system and bring in modern IT systems, AI programs that can easily decide on cases for the most part, very small number of justices whose job is guided by the same AI program and they follow legislation to the T instead of their opinions (which are invariably rubbish), gone are the backlogs and justice is delivered accurately in near-real-time.

Meenakshi Jain, Vikram Sampath, Abhijit Chavda, Satchidanand Shevde and Prakhar Shrivastava will share their expertise in Indian history and the art of historical writing, discussing the need to revisit history from the Indian perspective rather than the agenda of misinformation that has been fed to Indians in the name of history.

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Coming from a western perspective I find remarkable that often the most kattar Hindus are Jains.
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