International Aerospace Discussion - Jan 2018

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 18 Nov 2023 22:23

Rakesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2023 04:20 History repeats itself!

Dassault earlier walked out of the Euro consortium (which gave birth to the Eurofighter Typhoon) and created the Dassault Rafale.

Now Saab has walked out of the Tempest program. Never partner with the Britshits on anything!

https://x.com/GarethJennings3/status/17 ... 77206?s=20 ---> Sweden confirms that involvement in the Tempest is now officially dead. "We walked away from tri-lateral studies with UK and Italy about a year ago and launched a national study. I will not answer questions why it didn’t work with the UK and FCAS." - Official

https://x.com/GarethJennings3/status/17 ... 22538?s=20 ---> For those who think Europe can't support two next-gen fighter programmes, we may be about to get three! "It is not decided if we will build a system, develop a system with others, or acquire a system. We can say it will be done both nationally and with partners."

The japs are still working with the brits on FCAS ?.. apparently noises on futuristic radar etc

bala · Post by **bala** » 18 Nov 2023 22:51

Japan's Sneaky New Aircraft Carrier

Despite being labeled a Destroyer, Japan’s Izumo-class ship is hiding a deadly secret - for China. At first glance, the Izumo is, more specifically, a helicopter destroyer, and the largest Japanese naval vessel since World War 2. But a closer look — the expansive deck, the capability to house the stealth F-35Bs — paints a clearer picture: it is nothing less than a covert aircraft carrier. As such, it's no surprise that Chinese officials have expressed shock and concern. To them, these are not just mere destroyers, but spiritual successors to Imperial Japan's carriers, readied for potential encounters fiercer than those of the Pacific's past. Except this time, America’s stealth fighters and Japan’s aircraft carriers are preparing to do battle on the same side. And China does not like it one bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1srHDfvRKnc

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Nov 2023 03:30

NRao wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023 17:57 SpaceX starship launch in about 30 minutes. SpaceX tweeted "All systems go". Live launch:

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission ... p-flight-2

It was a beautiful flight, even if it didn't end perfectly successfully (to be expected in such an ambitious test program)

Here's a very good analysis of what might have gone wrong from the popular Scott Manley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2C7xE9Mj4

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Nov 2023 18:45

Iran Adopting China's Beidou Satellite Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTaxcrkeOqU

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 20 Nov 2023 19:48

Musk says they'll be ready for Flight 3 in 3-4 weeks!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1726422074254578012

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 21 Nov 2023 00:33

The Successful Flight of Starship

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/11/h ... e-success/

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 21 Nov 2023 06:22

Interesting close-up view of Starship stage-separation (hot-staging)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtHGXFS_xXY

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 22 Nov 2023 20:05

US Govt Condemns Musk as "Anti-Semitic" But Still Depends on Him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTUchwsTaCA

hgupta · Post by **hgupta** » 22 Nov 2023 21:40

Musk' comments were in no way anti-semitic. He was rightly criticizing ADL and other groups for pushing wildly unsubstantiated allegations and using the fallacious argument of "If you criticize me, you are anti-Semitic" and as usual, US Gov't fell in line because of its infestation with left wing libtards and left wing liberal media putting pressure on US Gov't to toe that line.

We need to change that narrative which any criticism of ADL and other jewish groups are anti-Semitic to a narrative that all groups must undergo scrutiny for any wild allegations they make.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 24 Nov 2023 13:12

SpaceX's Starship & the Geopolitical Implications of Reusable Rockets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqxGeHENTPI

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 30 Nov 2023 01:35

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 01 Dec 2023 02:55

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 02 Dec 2023 22:35

Air Force to retire F-35A damaged by bird strike
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20231201005400315
01 Dec 2023

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 03 Dec 2023 13:57

Soviets Wanted Moonbase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhzyCt__d_4

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 03 Dec 2023 21:27

Su-75 Checkmate: the Multi-Polarity Aid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-sVW6bmYc

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 04 Dec 2023 23:46

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 05 Dec 2023 21:07

The Dassault Rafale: The Plane that Beat the F-16

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 05 Dec 2023 21:35

^^^ on the heels of the above video....

Dassault Aviation CEO Confirms Rafale Talks With Saudi Arabia
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/dassault-av ... -1.2007379
05 Dec 2023

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 06 Dec 2023 04:03

Evolution in French Rafale Fighter Jet Explained

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 07 Dec 2023 08:46

Oh diyar.. the US should immediately stop further production of the birds and start imports. Oh wait...

U.S. military grounds entire fleet of Osprey aircraft following a deadly crash off the coast of Japan

The military announced late Wednesday it was grounding all of its Osprey V-22 helicopters, one week after eight Air Force Special Operations Command service members died in a crash off the coast of Japan.

The Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps took the extraordinary step of grounding hundreds of aircraft after a preliminary investigation of last week’s crash indicated that a material failure — that something went wrong with the aircraft — and not a mistake by the crew led to the deaths.

The crash raised new questions about the safety of the Osprey, which has been involved in multiple fatal accidents over its relatively short time in service.Its unique design has been a factor in multiple incidents. While the investigation into last week’s crash has only just begun, it renewed attention on the aircraft’s safety record, particularly on a mechanical problem with the clutch that has troubled the program for more than a decade. There also have been questions as to whether all parts of the Osprey have been manufactured according to safety specifications.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 07 Dec 2023 18:22

From the AMCA thread:

tandav wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 13:24 [youtube]dbsyfITResU[youtube]

The USAF PLAAF RuAF and many others are rapidly moving towards deploying AI in combat. Already AI pilots beat humans in A2A combat.

This type of tech will easily replace expensive and hard to train human pilots in the skies.

I hope IAF realizes that they may be facing AI adversaries in the Air from PLAAF and very possibly PAF via imports.

I was at the DARPA all-day briefing he mentions in that video. There is no Air Force even close to deploying AI in a training session, forget "in combat". That will take another 15 years or so. Besides the technical issues, they have to also solve the issues related to ethics, something Musk mentions very often.

As it relates to AI to substitute a combat pilot, IMO India will benefit because she can leap over technologies. However, AI models need huge amounts of data, which even the US lacked in 2019. I remember that we were referred to a Wikipedia page to solve one of our problems - the USAF just did not have any documented processes/data to train AI models in basic merges.

I very much doubt any nation will let such techs leave their border. Ethics is a very big issue and there is no way to enforce it, yet. After all a Tesla learns from pictures provided to it, no human codes anything anymore.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 10 Dec 2023 12:43

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 10 Dec 2023 15:23

We could use big stuff like this. These C-130 aircraft are designed for long distance use, which in many cases can be overkill for our needs.
We don't need globe-spanning military transport aircraft, we need transport aircraft that can land large payloads in tight locations in high mountains.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 10 Dec 2023 17:14

^ Some knowledgeable comments give an idea why it is very risky.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 10 Dec 2023 18:07

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/weap ... -programme

The Japan Ministry of Defense (MoD) has given further details on its intentions behind the country's electromagnetic (EM) railgun programme.

As reported by Janes on 18 October, Japan has carried out the first shipboard test firing of an EM railgun.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 11 Dec 2023 13:24

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/after-tb2 ... aiden/?amp

Turkey’s leading aerospace firm and drone maker, Baykar, has revealed plans for a satellite constellation that will be launched by 2025; ‘space tugs’ that can move around other satellites and has hinted at an advanced version of the Kizilelma unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV).

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 14 Dec 2023 21:47

https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1735 ... 17179?s=20 ---> Gripen in Brazil.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 14 Dec 2023 21:53

Whilst driving to work heard on the Radio:
UK/Italy?Japan to start a joint Aircraft Programme (6th Gen Programme)
Insteresting combo wonder what's driving this??
future of Euro fighter???
or a sign of cracks in the EU
me thinks that the Northern Germanic(ne Icemaidens) are ganging up hence the Med folks are rebelling???
Nor far before Spaniards join this or the French
French have Rafa going

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 14 Dec 2023 22:02

SRajesh wrote: ↑14 Dec 2023 21:53 Insteresting combo wonder what's driving this??

The GCAP (Global Combat Air Programme) is the 6th generation program to replace the Eurofighter Typhoon in the RAF, the Italian Air Force. In Japan, the GCAP will replace their F-15J/DJ fleet. Eventually, the Spaniards will also join in.

Germany is the only Eurofighter nation, that is not participating in the GCAP. I believe they are partnering with France on the FCAS, which is the 6th generation fighter to replace the Dassault Rafale.

What is driving this is mainly budgets. Horrendously expensive, so the only viable path forward is via partnerships.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 14 Dec 2023 22:16

Rakesh
If the programme is expensive and the with the avialability of Drone tech and AI how far will these fighter programmes go on for??
will an adequately upgraded 5th Gen aircraft as a motherboard with a beevy of drones and/or AI crafts be okay
Or will there always be a place for pilot input in dogfights of the future??

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 14 Dec 2023 22:29

SRajesh wrote: ↑14 Dec 2023 22:16 Rakesh
If the programme is expensive and the with the avialability of Drone tech and AI how far will these fighter programmes go on for??
will an adequately upgraded 5th Gen aircraft as a motherboard with a beevy of drones and/or AI crafts be okay
Or will there always be a place for pilot input in dogfights of the future??

There will be a place for drones and AI in future conflicts. But there will also be a place for manned combat aircraft.

*America's NGAD will have a mothership-drone capability, the GCAP and FCAS will have the same.

*Even India's HAL CATS Warrior program will feature the same ---> viewtopic.php?p=2609494#p2609494

For dangerous strike missions, drones and/or AI tech will be used. This will alleviate (and even likely eliminate) loss of manned combat aircraft that presently conduct such missions. In the future, manned combat aircraft will stay well within the envelope of a protective air bubble...while unmanned drones will actually do the heavy lifting.

Both are needed. You cannot have one without the other.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 14 Dec 2023 22:30

UK, Italy, Japan ink GCAP stealth fighter treaty, reveal new program details
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/12/uk- ... m-details/
13 Dec 2023

The joint effort to get a sixth-gen stealth fighter in the air by 2035 is to be headquarted in the UK, while a Japanese official will be the first program leader.

disha · Post by **disha** » 15 Dec 2023 03:14

SRajesh wrote: ↑14 Dec 2023 22:16 If the programme is expensive and the with the avialability of Drone tech and AI how far will these fighter programmes go on for??
will an adequately upgraded 5th Gen aircraft as a motherboard with a beevy of drones and/or AI crafts be okay
Or will there always be a place for pilot input in dogfights of the future??

Think of Drones as intelligent missiles with loitering capability. Or a pack of hunting dogs. You still need a air combat pilot to act as the "sutradhar". And yes, when protective bubbles are burst, dogfights may also happen. So all eventualities has to be planned and put in action.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 15 Dec 2023 05:43

GE Aerospace achieves breakthrough in hypersonic engine development
https://www.flightglobal.com/engines/ge ... 98.article
14 Dec 2023

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 15 Dec 2023 20:08

GA-ASI Poised to Begin LongShot Flight Testing Phase
https://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-poised-to ... ting-phase
11 Sept 2023

https://x.com/GenAtomics_ASI/status/173 ... 88624?s=20 ---> LongShotUAS will launch from human-crewed aircraft and close on enemy targets, keeping our warfighters out of harm’s way.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 15 Dec 2023 20:17

sanman wrote: ↑15 Dec 2023 05:43 GE Aerospace achieves breakthrough in hypersonic engine development
https://www.flightglobal.com/engines/ge ... 98.article
14 Dec 2023

GE’s Breakthrough In ‘Detonating’ Hypersonic Propulsion Is A Big Deal
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/g ... a-big-deal
14 Dec 2023

https://x.com/AlexHollings52/status/173 ... 56071?s=20 ---> This is insane! If you’re not spun up on how rotating detonation engines work, I go into it pretty deep in this video:

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 16 Dec 2023 23:01

EXCLUSIVE: 5 companies in early running for Air Force’s CCA drone wingmen
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/12/exc ... e-wingmen/
15 Dec 2023

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 16 Dec 2023 23:02

F-35 Vs Su-57: Which fighter owns the skies?

bala · Post by **bala** » 18 Dec 2023 11:09

If you are interested in the family tree of the Soviet rocket engines this YT provides a comprehensive guide. It talks about the origin, R-7 family of rockets, N1 Rocket, Energia/Buran and other topics. The soviet rocket program was the pioneer in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xyXDiC92s

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 21 Dec 2023 04:45

Successful test of Rotational Detonation Combustor by GE:

https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/airc ... nic-future