Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[chetak]

That enormous disparity in the number of locomotives must reveal something about the two societies. And it ain’t that Pakistanis don’t need trains because they can afford to travel by air.


It speaks to a modernising economy versus a feudal one. Feudal economies are geographically circumscribed. That is they are local. It comments on government priorities. And the forging of a nation. Indians are accepting of other Indians. Actually I am not sure about sikhs and muslims. So Hindus are free to move for education business, marriage. Are rural or even urban Sindhis tolerated in Lahore?

There is grain and industrial goods, cars and missiles to shuttle around by rail… as well as goods to reach the ports for export.


This locomotive statistic really focuses on the degeneracy of national function and purpose in Pakistan. What a remarkable statistic.

sanjaykumar ji,



At one time the demented pakis made an aborted bid to push for "lease" of locomotives and rolling stock from India, by building and spreading a false narrative of the aman ka tamasha variety, hoping that a sympathetic groundswell of public opinion based "big brother generosity" meme would force the hand of the GoI to oblige them.

Those were the heydays of the incestuous lootyens cabal, commie lootera gangstas, jnu, jamia and other academic mafias and their paki pasand jihadi offshoots, and buddi butt like presstitutes, with the patronage of the eyetaalian mafias that ruled the roost in dilli and most foreign embassies had easy access to the innards of the govt ecosystem, all for a price, of course...

https://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi/50 ... rPRgO.html


https://www.siasat.pk/threads/india-ref ... ost-553785


https://www.brecorder.com/news/3321206/ ... 0923479596

[SRajesh]

Chetakji
Wondered what happened to thier dreams of getting super-duper rollingstocks from Japan!!

[chetak]

Chetakji
Wondered what happened to thier dreams of getting super-duper rollingstocks from Japan!!

SRajesh ji,

it looks like the japs wised up PDQ.

there was some desultory talk about some karachi circular railway/mass transit system/metro, and many pakis were eagerly licking their chops in anticipation of the forth coming financial feast. Some pious namazis may have even married a second and third wife, in the expectancy and high hopes of an exponential elevation in their of financial prospects but sadly for the faithful, such a windfall gain was not to be

the japanese had committed to an almost interest free, or a soft term loan with an interest rate of 0.2 percent per annum with a 40-year repayment period including a 10-year grace period. Probably something like India got from the japanese for the bullet train

the pakis, it appears, just couldn't figure out a way to skim money from the japanese, and the tough standards of accountability and transparency expected from the japanese end drove the pakis crazy. Moreover, it's not like the japanese companies (who would have anyway got the major contract awards) wouldn't pay something to grease the wheels, but probably not nearly as much as the pakis expected, or would have liked.

now, karachi has a "bus" metro or BRT

pakistan is a poor country whose focus is on boosting terrorism. When the jihadis get excited, it is very much cheaper if busses of the BRT blow up rather than expensive trainsets of the metro

[Manish_P]

...

It speaks to a modernising economy versus a feudal one. Feudal economies are geographically circumscribed. That is they are local. It comments on government priorities. ..

Also 'Senators' of rich pakistan wanted to emulate Amrika. So they prioritized roadways rather than railways like us poor SDREs.

One funny excuse a strategic eggspurt gave on a youtube channel was that the brilliant Paki fauj didn't want their transport lifeline to depend on railways (easy to bomb and disrupt).

[ernest]

This lack of infra in Pakistan will mean that Arjun orders are further delayed. 6th gen warfare by PA taking away funds from infra development.

[partha]

Chetakji
Wondered what happened to thier dreams of getting super-duper rollingstocks from Japan!!

Wait till you hear what happened when Pakis asked Chinese for bullet trains after India announced Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train project. Chinese laughed on Paki faces. This was reported in Paki media itself.

[morem]

Khan coming back in land of pissfull

[IndraD]

well well
results have gone kaput
now same Imrandu's team trailing and Nawaz winning.

[morem]

i am shocked

[V_Raman]

now, karachi has a "bus" metro or BRT

bus metro is not a bad idea - it is far cheaper to build than train based metro systems - IMO

[vera_k]

It has its place. But it cannot approach the raw people hauling capacity of a train based system

[Anujan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pa ... r-BB1hXy9k

Pakistan has suspended mobile phone services nationwide as voters in the world’s fifth most-populous nation head to the polls for a tumultuous general election that’s been marred by violence and questions of impropriety.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... ef=mc.news

Pakistan’s vote count following a national election has been hit by unusual delays, leading the country’s election panel to issue a late-night warning to polling officers, 10 hours after polls closed, to release results immediately.

Have to check with Jernail Munir for sign off hainji?

Previously, early indicators – with about 20% of the votes counted largely from urban areas – had showed a surprise lead for the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), the party of jailed former prime minister Imran Khan.

ISI cant even rig elections and Jernail Munir does not have testimonials to seize PTV and do a "Mere Aziz Humwatano..." speech

Today, democracy has won in South Asia.

[Anujan]

The only honest PM Pakistan ever had

[Deans]

Pak has an Election commission website which has the results.
The site is not opening ! Guess its a glass half full.

[Manish_P]

...
ISI cant even rig elections and Jernail Munir does not have testimonials to seize PTV and do a "Mere Aziz Humwatano..." speech
...

Anujan Ji, isn't the speciality of the pak fauj the rigging of the 'results' and not the elections itself

IIRC in the time of kammandu Musharraff it was after the elections that the winners were moved to the party the fauj wanted to form the government.

[sanman]

Pak's election software is a tool for election-rigging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLhh-tqpiH8

[SRajesh]

Rashid loses both seats
Rashid accepts defeat in NA-56, NA-57, Rawalpindi
Yella!!!
Sheik Chilli aka Pawn kilo bum has lost both seats!!

[Aditya_V]

Why are we discussing a meaningless election, its after all the Uniformed Jihadis in power and rest of them are drama.

[Manish_P]

^ maybe same reason as that wherein people can't help themselves from gawking at accidents/disasters...

[A_Gupta]

Yawn headline: "Elections 2024: PTI-backed candidates outperform expectations as results continue to trickle in"

The Pakarmy can't even rig elections competently.

[srin]

^^^ When all the actors are Army puppets, how does it matter who wins ? Army is still in power.

Maybe the Baki army is evolving - first they used to do coups, but that resulted in sanctions; so they started selecting the prime minister, but that resulted in Dimran who started tugging at the leash; so now they ensured only puppets can contest, so it doesn't matter what happens. And I'm sure there is enough dirt collected on them that one phone call from Rawalpindi will fix any intent of going rogue.

[Baikul]

Pakistan’s election of 2024 may be my favourite sport ever. Because everyone playing it is going to lose, even the winner.

[A_Gupta]

> ^^^ When all the actors are Army puppets, how does it matter who wins ? Army is still in power.

Yes, but how much power? It is quite obvious that the Army did not want PTI(-backed) candidates to win. But winning they are.

Anyhow, another Yawn headline: "KSE-100 index plunges 1,200 points on political uncertainty"

[Baikul]

^^ The army will also lose; they’ve lost a lot of what credibility they had with a significant number of voters. PMNL and my PTI will both lose, even if one side wins.

[MeshaVishwas]

Curious interview of Undertaker PM Kakar on Tolo News.
Assuming YT subtitles were accurate, here are some things that caught my eyes(paraphrasing here):
1)Kakar gives a back handed compliment(?) to the Tali*astards that the current setup is now "independent" but they need to strengthen their "internal rule" for a more rational approach to their bilateral ties.
I think this is a dog whistle for culling some of those who have grown wings and forgotten their Aabpara roots.
2)Kakar is Pakhtoon only on the outside.
"We only humiliated and sent back Afghan refugees for their own good"
"We did this so that they would not be exploited by Paki Law Enforcement"
"We don't want refugees but Afghan tourists welcome"

Interesting to note that he did not use the words "Illegal refugees/Unregistered refugees".
3) Claims the Talis are not in control of their own territory.
This to me is the same thing said earlier to Ghani/Karzai govt, that they were "Mayors of Kabul".
4) Googly by the interviewer beats Kakar when he asks that if thousands of Pakis are guarding the Durand Line how can TTP come into Paki occupied KP?
5) Then it gets more interesting.
Kakar tacitly accepts that the Tali*astards are hammering the brown panted ones and destroying their military OPs.
6)Pakis seem to be using tactics of Economic coercion by blocking huge numbers of Afg containers in Krachi Sewers Port.
GoI backing the Chah bahar project is very very humane.
Superb foresight by MEA.
7)Kakar showing insecurities again as he brings up India and IWT(thank you, Pandit Nehru for the gift that always gives) when asked about bilateral water disputes with Afghanistan.
8)Khusra Munir's frank admission that the life of one Paki is worth more than all Afghan lives, leads to bucket Kakar's Mujra dance of a justification.
Watch below:

[A_Gupta]

US Dept of State reaction:
https://www.state.gov/elections-in-pakistan/

We join credible international and local election observers in their assessment that these elections included undue restrictions on freedoms of expression, association, and peaceful assembly. We condemn electoral violence, restrictions on the exercise of human rights and fundamental freedoms, including attacks on media workers, and restrictions on access to the Internet and telecommunication services, and are concerned about allegations of interference in the electoral process. Claims of interference or fraud should be fully investigated.

[SRajesh]

But
Good news for TFTA Fauj
Badmash back but has to kiss agey se Parvez
And also maybe Dimran’s butt as well
Fauj will say : United gobermint to save Hamare Watan

[Aditya_V]

A.k.a the election commission of Pakistan got a Fauji pasand result. Somehow I think this whole Imran thing is a drama. Even if the faujis get Imran and Bushra bikini knocked out nobody really cares, but they keep the drama of a false messiah for future date.

[Deans]

2 days and Pak army still can't decide what result they want.

[Aditya_V]

Good no, Now the Mango Abduls are fighting it out , its all the Politicians fault, technocrats like "Kakkar" will step in if economic conditions in USA or China or Europe is good and Paki Fauj, i.e the right Geopolitical environment like post 9/11 when the Faujis can claim they saved the day.

[Neela]

2 days and Pak army still can't decide what result they want.

Reminds me of a father driving his car while his son drives a toy car in the front passenger seat.

[Neela]

Messi, Mbappe, Neymar all voted in Pak elections ?
https://twitter.com/FrontalForce/status ... 1115414703

[chetak]

UK foreign minister says 'we recognise serious concerns over the fairness and lack of inclusivity of Pakistan’s elections'



https://www.reuters.com/world/us-uk-eu- ... 024-02-09/

Summary

EU notes 'lack of level playing field'
US says there were 'undue restrictions'
UK expresses concern about 'fairness' of election

[chetak]

Messi, Mbappe, Neymar all voted in Pak elections ?
https://twitter.com/FrontalForce/status ... 1115414703

Neela ji,


this is exactly why the Indian commies, jihadis and the wokes wat the paper ballot system back

we have football, hockey, kho kho, gilli danda, and pocket billiards players numbering in the tens of crores, not to mention the uncounted crores of beedis, rohingyas, maldivians, nepalis, pakis, afghans, and khalistanis

why should they be deprived of their opportunities......

[chetak]

[partha]

2 days and Pak army still can't decide what result they want.

Whether by design or accident, with independent candidates winning the majority, Army has a lot of room to play games in government formation behind the scenes. A weak coalition government will be easier to manage for the Army. They will always be on the "same page" Just before the election, Nawaz Sharrif said "full majority is needed to fix the country's problems". It was a message to the Army. Looks like he had some inside info on Army's plans.

[Anujan]

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2456051/pa ... -govt-coas

Democracy expert and constitutional scholar Jernail Munir has spoken

Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Syed Asim Munir on Saturday said Pakistan’s diverse polity and pluralism will be "well-represented by a unified government of all democratic forces" imbibed with national purpose.

“Pakistan’s diverse polity and pluralism will be well-represented by a unified government of all democratic forces imbibed with national purpose. Elections and democracy are means to serve people of Pakistan and not ends in themselves,” the army chief said, as per the military's media wing, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).

Peearef Maulaners used to say

Pakistan army has never won a war and has never lost an election

We had to see this day too

[A_Gupta]

^^^^ everyone demanding jihad for Kashmir and Ghazwa-e-Hind is not very diverse or pluralistic.

[Atmavik]

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2456051/pa ... -govt-coas

Democracy expert and constitutional scholar Jernail Munir has spoken

Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Syed Asim Munir on Saturday said Pakistan’s diverse polity and pluralism will be "well-represented by a unified government of all democratic forces" imbibed with national purpose.

“Pakistan’s diverse polity and pluralism will be well-represented by a unified government of all democratic forces imbibed with national purpose. Elections and democracy are means to serve people of Pakistan and not ends in themselves,” the army chief said, as per the military's media wing, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).

Peearef Maulaners used to say

Pakistan army has never won a war and has never lost an election

We had to see this day too

"imbibed with national purpose" is the key. i keep saying this that Munir is the second comming of Zia. all this democracy is against the book.

[SRajesh]

Many Many Mier! back in Jihadistan and signing :LAHORE: Former Indian diplomat and politician Mani Shankar Aiyar regards the people of Pakistan as the single biggest Indian asset in Pakistan.
And tis nugget:
“All I ask the people (of Pakistan) is to remember that Modi has never received more than one-third of the votes but our system is such that if has one-third of the votes, he has two-thirds in the seats. So two-thirds of Indians are ready to come towards you (Pakistanis).”
And openly calling to bypass the Government:He suggested that the businessmen, students and academics should continue meeting outside India and Pakistan, bypassing the governments.