10/7 vs 9/11 (Israel-Gaza) Strategic Fallout & Implications

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 26 Oct 2023 03:26

Douglas MacGregor again:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 26 Oct 2023 06:52

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 26 Oct 2023 19:43

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 27 Oct 2023 00:03

AlJzeera spitting so much bile that even Blinken asking Qatari govt to have them tone it down:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 27 Oct 2023 03:48

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 Oct 2023 09:14

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 27 Oct 2023 17:57

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 27 Oct 2023 21:08

If Iran enters into the war - and that's very likely, starting with its proxy Hezbollah - then the situation will blow up fast.

If Iran was not willing to risk war, then it would have never initiated its 10/7 attack on Israel in the first place.

Iran is currently behaving as if it has already received guarantees from stronger powers. (We all know who they are.)

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 28 Oct 2023 03:23

Prof John Mearsheimer - quite a knowledgeable guy - a realist:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 28 Oct 2023 16:15

Shashi Tharoor running afoul of India's Lefist-Islamist establishment by calling a spade a spade:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 28 Oct 2023 22:37

What is to prevent combatants from illicitly appropriating & misusing this technology?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1718224153474388433

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 31 Oct 2023 06:34

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 31 Oct 2023 08:04

How many threads do we need for Israel?
IBTL

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 31 Oct 2023 08:26

vimal wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 08:04 How many threads do we need for Israel?
IBTL

I would think as many as necessary to kill/annihilate the bad guys.

The "bad guys" have more than one strategy to dominate the world (Caliphate, Gazwe-Hind, etc), so as many threads as they put up.

It is a fair strategy.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 31 Oct 2023 17:53

If you criticize Soros, his supporters call you anti-semitic.

Yet Soros is now funding pro-Hamas protests.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 31 Oct 2023 18:33

Khalistan-Hamas bhai-bhai (snakes in the backyard)

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 31 Oct 2023 19:24

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 31 Oct 2023 19:34

no kamment

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 31 Oct 2023 23:53

Well, now Israel is making Thomas Friedman's theory come true "The World is Flat" - starting with Gaza...

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 01 Nov 2023 00:12

sanman wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 17:53 If you criticize Soros, his supporters call you anti-semitic.

Yet Soros is now funding pro-Hamas protests.

[youtube]Z64qF4nezFY[/youtube

Soros is the most anti semetic person having worked with the germans in facilitating mass murder of jews !!.. i do not think he is welcome in israel !

https://magyarnemzet.hu/english/2023/10 ... ael-forces

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 01 Nov 2023 00:13

Cyrano wrote: ↑31 Oct 2023 23:53 Well, now Israel is making Thomas Friedman's theory come true "The World is Flat" - starting with Gaza...

The friedman chap is doing what he does best selling propaganda as a farticle

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 01 Nov 2023 06:06

We abstained - was it right?
Should we complain if others then abstain in regards to terrorism against us?

Our problem is that we are economically vulnerable to those who harbour sectarian allegiances against us.
We have to figure out how to remove this vulnerability.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 01 Nov 2023 07:59

^^There must, at least in the eyes of the MEA, be a "good" reason to abstain, to balance "Indian politics and dynamics" or something like that. We are in GE 2024 campaign mode. Although, to most of us it looks like a cop out.

The ways of the MEA are mysterious. All we can do it assume they know best and are acting in India's best interests (of which I think there is no doubt).

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 01 Nov 2023 08:15

rahulm wrote: ↑01 Nov 2023 07:59 ^^There must, at least in the eyes of the MEA, be a "good" reason to abstain, to balance "Indian politics and dynamics" or something like that. We are in GE 2024 campaign mode. Although, to most of us it looks like a cop out.

The ways of the MEA are mysterious. All we can do it assume they know best and are acting in India's best interests (of which I think there is no doubt).

There needs to be a more organized-but-informal network that enables more nonMuslim countries to help each other in conflicts involving Muslim neighbors. This would offset the pile-on from the global Muslim collective.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 01 Nov 2023 08:28

It is very simple.

Bharat is looking after her own interests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why anyone's BP is going through the roof is not an issue.

There is really no need to analyze, but the urge to do so is very understandable - that it is in the Bharatiya DNA.

Ultimately this, IMO, is a conflict between the believers and non-bilievers.

As I stated a few months ago, Bharat needs to PRINT (outside the normal budget) US dollars 50 billion and build a stockpile of ammo. The believers are coming and the nonbelievers (like Israel) are not prepared. The nonbelievers are very, very bijji analyzing. Via-agra syndrome

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 01 Nov 2023 11:34

This is worth a watch :

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 02 Nov 2023 04:26

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 02 Nov 2023 08:31

Are Biden officials going to do a Justin Trudeau against Iran?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 03 Nov 2023 07:20

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 03 Nov 2023 10:02

i see that left in India has successfully hijacked Israel - Gaza issue and slowly turning it into Hindu-Muslim issue in India. the reason i feel is when Hamas leader addressed Kerala people there was a root-out out Hindutva poster below him. the address for the support of Hamas in OP Jindal global university, which was suppose to be on the topic of history and politics of Palestinian present by Achin Vanaik turned out to be heavily on Hindutva.

Is there an intention of rewiring the brain of Muslim to equate Hindus are your Indian Jews, you Indian Muslims are oppressed Gazan Muslim of India, Zionism is same as Hindutva. i was wondering how long will it take for them to start hating from Hindutva to Hindu?

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 03 Nov 2023 12:45

Its already there since centuries, sometimes it boils over when hindus are complacent or busy infighting. Other times it lays low waiting for an opportunity. External events like the current conflict inject a dose of outrage now and then and they set out seeking revenge for problems which are not theirs, against people who have nothing to do with it.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 03 Nov 2023 22:36

Scott Ritter makes many strong and factual counter points. He says by creating a Palestinian state, we remove the raison d'être of Hamas, and even seems admirative of the Oct 7th attacks (thats pretty indefensible). He seems to think that once a Palestine state is created, it will become a docile lamb and all will be peace and harmony. Once again, it shows that even the smarter people in the west who do not tow popular narratives, do not understand islamic ideology. I also think Scott is caught in a perennial anti-establishment trap of his own making.

The fact that by agreeing to the creation of a Palestine state NOW, we would end up legitimising this type of terrorist actions as the ONLY way to succeed for any and all islamist and separatist movements doesn't seem to occur to him.

In another podcast, Jacques Baud made an interesting and important point (not linking here since its in French). Islamic Jihad doesn't have a defined end state. If seen as a collective movement, its desired end state is a world that is 100% islamised, ready for Qayamat. On an individual level, it means "endeavour" to contribute to the achievement of that goal and die if need be (even preferably) in the process to achieve access to jannat and 72H. At no point does this ideology envisage an end state of achieving a limited set of worldly objectives, and then live peacefully with non-believers. Baud is one of the very rare people in the west who got this right.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 04 Nov 2023 02:10

Cyrano wrote: ↑03 Nov 2023 22:36 Scott Ritter makes many strong and factual counter points. He says by creating a Palestinian state, we remove the raison d'être of Hamas,

he should join BRF to learn a lot of things. how naive can a person be.

Leonard · Post by **Leonard** » 04 Nov 2023 02:21

Scott Ritter needs to get some real world Madrassa education ...

Here's a Primer Scott ..

https://twitter.com/i/status/1720375887672311991

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Nov 2023 07:14