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by Greg
09 Apr 2007 06:33
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@Bade I thought you may bring up the Pauli exclusion principle to rebut the comments on the fundamentality of physics ideas even in the macroscopic world. Anyway here it is to the benefit of Greg from Wiki onlee. I never challenged the fundamentality of Physics ideas. In fact I acknowledged it quite...
by Greg
09 Apr 2007 05:09
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@ Johann Scriptures are arcane in general. Add to that a language that is no longer in daily use and you have a rich landscape to make of it what you will. Hindu conception of the Universe could indeed be useful in an inspirational way. It could also be utterly misleading and wasteful if we took it ...
by Greg
08 Apr 2007 08:49
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

Great! I am glad you can take it in the right spirit. :)
by Greg
08 Apr 2007 08:41
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@ Alok_N as for the rest, your narrative has not changed ... repetitive claims do not lead to established claims ... you have not understood the contributions of quantum mechanics but yet you feel sure enough to argue on ... if this sounds condescending, that's because it is ... sue me. No more from...
by Greg
08 Apr 2007 03:21
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@Alok_ N all motifs in physics are unscientific by their nature ... take the picture of atoms that show a nucleus with orbiting electrons ... it is essentially wrong ... some civilization, 3000 years hence would laugh at the stupid symbol ... similarly, when you think of a god with 4 hands or 4 head...
by Greg
07 Apr 2007 11:51
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@ Alok_N please point to one item of "understanding" in chemistry and biology that does not have basis in physics ... let's be clear that "understanding" is different from "classification" a la botany ... Everything has a *basis* in physics but its fair to say that the ...
by Greg
07 Apr 2007 11:47
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@Alok

I am not sure what my religion has to do with “guidelinesâ€
by Greg
07 Apr 2007 07:22
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

Calvin wrote:Mathematicians beg to differ.


please elaborate.
by Greg
07 Apr 2007 07:15
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@ Alok 5. the connection to biology was brought up ... the point is simple ... if 10 billion years ago, there was no life but physical laws were in effect then where did life come from if not from some physical process? there is no complete theory for origin of life, but what besides physics can con...
by Greg
07 Apr 2007 07:07
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 10
Replies: 377
Views: 107415

@ Alok_N 1. Hindu thought is not in contradiction to scientific thought ... this may seem like an accident to you, but I am of the view that it is truly remarkable ... especially when you consider that science had itself not come to some of its realizations until recently ... One thing that these th...
by Greg
06 Apr 2007 09:51
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 75353

@ Pulikeshi (re: Schrodinger's "what is life") After reading this book, I had a chat about it with a very close friend who is a Professor of Neurobiology and found out that although physicists often refer to this book as the basis for discovery of genes, it is patently false. The theory of...
by Greg
06 Apr 2007 09:41
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 75353

@ Johann and Alok_N (subject: Science and Religion) however, the fact remains that only two sets of theories claim to have been operational 10 billion years ago: physics and religion ... Physics arrives at its theory by virtue of a framework that has delivered the general nature of our operational w...
by Greg
06 Apr 2007 09:38
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 75353

@Alok_N so Greg, going by that, would you consider EJ activity a "sin" against what is natural to an individual? I find aggressive missionary activity a bit bothersome because historically, missionaries have depleted the planet's ethnosphere on a global scale. I feel sad when a primitive t...
by Greg
05 Apr 2007 08:45
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 75353

@Manny I guess he chose the Christian God in the same way that 99% of the religious people in this world chose theirs - be that Allah or Krishna. They simply pick what they are culturally most attached to - the faith of their parents and immediate family. Religion is by and large coded into a child'...
by Greg
05 Apr 2007 05:42
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 75353

Alok ji for you... Collins: Why this scientist believes in God Francis Collins has been and is politically expedient. When the human genome project was being considered for funding, Bill Clinton realized that it would never pass muster if the resurgent Republican right perceived it as an attack on ...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 19:40
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 9
Replies: 326
Views: 75353

@Shiv Islam = peace Christianity = love Hinduism = :?: Hinduism = Harmony with the Universe (doesnt have to be just one word) :) Hinduism = Freedom is also good but it will be quicky portrayed as "devil worshipping allowed in Hinduism". A marketing problem might ensue. ____________________...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 10:11
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@Shiv And the bit about "beans" deserves (at best) the statement "Forgive him for he knows not what he is saying". A less kind way of chracterizing the gassy beans connection with an Indian diet is "gross stupidity" Let me clarify that most people I know would character...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 08:04
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

One does not need beef to sustain one's life. You can sustain your life with high protein beans and high carbohydrate breads. This is not about sustaining one's life. It is about one man proclaiming that he has right to piss on another man. People who are used to eating beef on a near-daily basis h...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 07:00
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@vsudhir The strength of xtianity in the US has one great positive spinoff - it gives the US the ideological and purpose-driven 'antibodies' required to successfully combat izlamism. The spinoff does not adequately offset the obstacle it poses to science education in this country. It would be great ...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 06:41
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

Guys, I just typed in HINDU on youtube search engine and have been going through some clips. Dont worry, I am not going to post all of them but this one is extremely frustrating (and informative). Its short and reflective of much of the discussion on this thread. Its about some jackass interviewing ...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 06:17
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

This Muslim mullah claims that Hindu scriptures prophecize the emergence of Mohammed and Islam. Sounds like one of those crackpot theory but, I am more interested in knowing if this preacher is an Indian. Dont take the link too seriously (and more importantly, dont shoot the messenger). :) http://ww...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 02:07
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@Valkan That lopsided effect is because of a third predator in the equation, - man. Who's hunting the evangelical hunters to their extinction ? Scientists ? Hunting of big cats by man entered the equation relatively recently. Moreover, Man hunts more deer than Tigers. :) The deer population has with...
by Greg
04 Apr 2007 01:13
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@Valkan Evangelical religions are like the tigers. Buddhism and Hinduism are like the deer. In that case, Buddhism and Hinduism have nothing to fear. It is the tigers that are endangered not the dear. Individuals may fall prey but the dear have evolved to survive and thrive in spite of the tigers (a...
by Greg
03 Apr 2007 23:02
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

Buddhism is an off shoot of core Hinduism, and modified..


IMO, all religions are an off-shoot of the most basic and primal spirituality that originated in early homo sapiens (or may be even homo erectus).
by Greg
03 Apr 2007 22:55
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

Manny, I dont agree with you but I dont care enough to defend the Christian right. You will have to get Ralph Reed over here for that :) Generally speaking, Christianity in America is also very diverse - at least in practice if not its core principles. If Christian right were THAT powerful, you woul...
by Greg
03 Apr 2007 22:39
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@ Manny there is a difference between an Individual openly talking to another about his/her faith vs an Institutional conspiracy to culturally cleanse vast lands. The Souther Baptist convention, Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell groups and even Vatican. I understand and sympathize with what you mean. Chri...
by Greg
03 Apr 2007 22:35
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

The constitution that protects individual and minority rights transcends the evangelical desires of it religious majority and tolerates the evangelical desires of its religios minorities. My last word on this. Smile there is nothing like evangelical desires of Hindus as minorities anywhere on the p...
by Greg
03 Apr 2007 22:21
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@Rony Fredom of religion in US is good-but only according to the christian and western standards.for example while the US has freedom of religion for islam and judaism,the "people of book",does they have the same freedom of religion to Hindus and other "pagans and heathens" ?.Whe...
by Greg
03 Apr 2007 21:01
Forum: Religion Discussion Archive
Topic: Religion Thread - 8
Replies: 320
Views: 68181

@sadler What do the forum members here think will happen to these faiths if the followers of the European god ------(and I say this with the prejudice that it deserves as the spread of christianism and its purported evangelical bent is the newest form of colonialism. IOW, killing satan worshipping h...

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