Bharat Rakshak

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Thank you for all your hard work Rakesh. I cant see you falling short in anything to which apply yourself. Good Luck!

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Badar I can give you a generic model - people can point out differences specific to the Indian setup. In conventional operations close support regiments (i.e. gun regiments) within the arty brigade would be assigned to provide fire support to the maneouver brigades, subject of course to anticipated ...

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Mohan & Jagan, It should be noted that no new artillery regiments have been raised - only a division HQ. A Prithvi missile regiment and existing artillery brigades (I'm not yet sure where from exactly) will be brought under it. Several Indian sources have stressed that this is an operational as ...

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Sunil, I would say the USG is attempting to alter the ways in which terrorist groups are perceived and conceived by the general public - this started with the comparisons between Pearl Harbor and 9/11. When you use a term like 'preventive detention' you are invoking the criminal justice system. If y...

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The USG's actions as I understand it is less about deterrence or punishment - they are based on specific concerns of the security and intelligence agencies that came with the realisation that Lindh is not going to be the only Al Qaeda member with US citizenship that they will have to deal with. For ...

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Zubaydah's generic description did *not* include a name. Padilla/Mujahir came to American attention when he reported his passport as 'lost' to the US consulate in Karachi in February. His behaviour was suspicious enough to attract attention, and his details were forwarded to other US agencies. Surve...

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Actually Sunil the buried device was discovered in Izmailovo Park (NE Moscow) in Nov, 1995. The interesting thing about the incident is that it appears to have been primarily a piece of psy ops, not unlike kind the IRA used to practice. Basayev called up a Russian Television journalist to let him kn...

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http://www.indian-express.com/full_story.php?content_id=3071 May 20 Meanwhile, Fernandes and chiefs of the Army and IAF today flew to the Nal air force base to witness the final phase of Operation Parakram Phase-III. The exercise focuses on synergised air force and army assaults on ‘enemy’ territor...

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A conventional first strike might work if a) it occurs before TELs have been dispersed or b) if the Pakistanis have no launch delegation in the event of decapitation Moked worked because the IDF knew well in advance exactly where all targets would be - concentrated in a few locations. An enormous am...

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Vikram, I was talking about building a basic framework for air superiority: forces, targets, sequence/time frame & attrition starting from the ground up, built around projected operational goals/constraints. Fleshing it out, strengthening it and building extentions can come later. It will give y...

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Vikram, Isnt that the idea of starting this discussion? To seperate the impossible from the possible and the plausible from the possible through ever deeper, broader and more rigorous analysis? Saying India ought to try and find a way to execute a conventional first strike on Pakistani nuclear force...

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Some suggestions Vikram, and they all have to do with attrition, the crucial factor in airwar. - treat the battle for air supremacy seperately from the offensive against TELS. The latter can not occur before the former - start from a defined Indian & Pakistani orbat - create a more detailed *seq...

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Vikram, Given the Pakistani investment and commitment up to this point it is difficult to beleive that they will *not* find a way to pay for a credible second strike capability should the survival of first strike forces come into doubt. Given past experiences, how realistic do you feel your assumpti...

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The Pakistanis Of late have shown an increasing interest in acquiring a submarine based second strike capability. This will enormously complicate things if GoI is in fact thinking like Vikram. A 'Kargil-like' attempt to fix, interdict/isolate and pound a Pakistani formation on the Pakistani side of ...

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Originally posted by bharat: [QB]I need some very basic info:- How many tanks are there in a tank regiment ? What does an armoured division or brigade consist of? How would you define a strike corps?[QB] Bharat - table of organisation (TO) for an IA armoured regiment now on BR thanks to Jagan and R...

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Are you thinking of a pincer movement to isolate and encircle V Corps, or are you thinking of a more geographical objective? Unpublished Indian Official History of the 1971 War - Chapter 9: The Punjab and Rajasthan Front pages 398-402 (51-55 in the .pdf document) cover 11 Infantry Division's advance...

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Vikram, I mistyped - meant XXI What I'm not sure yet is whether planners are envisioning a double envelopment, hammer or anvil, or main effort with secondary distractions. The nature of maneouver would make the objective clearer. An operation could for example aim to effectively destroy V corps as f...

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Vikram, the fact that this new artillery division is being assigned to XII Corps lends a great deal of merit to your theory about the shift of focus towards Southern Command but I'm not sure whether we can assume that bifurcation is the goal here. You really have to take it further on this thread or...

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dont want to lose this thread...so upsy daisy

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However it is fair to point out that with modernization, barriers are breaking down. People and ideas are travelling to places they have never been before. It remains to be seen how people in India handle this sudden infusion of diversity into places where it wasn't before.. It seems to me that Bom...

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Atish, maybe this is semantic innovation on your part and I shouldnt stand in the way, but in a country as diverse as India I would think it is hard to use the term 'ethnic'. There is no such thing as 'ethnically American'. There isnt even any such thing as 'ethnically British'. There is a British n...

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In Afghanistan ODAs had one Airforce special operations command combat controller attached. This allowed the ODA to break down into 4 detachments of three (which stayed in touch in with each other via radio) order to handle all the targets along the front, as well as liaise with their Afghan group's...

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Atish What is 'Indian ethnicity'? How does it relate to nepalese, Sri lankans or bhutanese 'ethnicity'? Because if you go by an anthropological sense ancestry or relio-cultural background things get problematic. You will end up with people inside the borders of the republic who you cut out of being ...

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There is no doubt that the shared geography and history of assimilation has left the people of the subcontinent with *something* that they alone share with each other- something that people refer to civilisation as shorthand. The republic of india are those areas and peoples of the subcontinent that...

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As early as October 15th Rumsfeld stated at the DoD press briefing that a lack of targetting information had meant that battlefield forces were not being struck, but that the situation was going to change very shortly. At the time I remember there were those here on BRF who were skeptical that CAS f...

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Catching up where I left off; In the fortnight that followed October 7th some 2,000 pieces of ordnance were dropped. Taleban airports had been silenced, most remaining flying aircraft grounded or destroyed and most radars and SAM batteries neutralised. Al Qaeda training camps had been levelled and t...

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Sukumar, Sree The most commonly installed system used for imagery transfer on strike aircraft (including a growing number of RAF Tornados but not A-10s or most F-16s) is 'Gold Strike', a cheaper interim alternative to JTIDS. Its built around a data modem integrated with the aircraft's existing VHF A...

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Sree I am going to step through some tiresome details on the planning and preparations for wider air war before I get to the subject of CAS in order to put in proper context. September 11 September 15 – Bush declares Bin Laden responsible for WTC & Pentagon attacks, after Congressional resolutio...

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Sree are you interested in a rough model of CAS/BAI in Afghanistan? Because as it always happens things diverted from the theoretical and doctrinal norm.

Nitin, what sort of capital expenditure should we be looking at then?

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Peyoosh it's not as crazy at it sounds. Current breakdown: 10 sqns - Offensive Air Support (CAS/BAI) 10 sqns - Deep Penetration Strike (includes 1 maritime strike) 18 Sqns - fighter 2 Sqns - multirole (DPS/fighter) ================================= 38 Sqns Phadke's vision for 2020: 25 squadrons - &q...

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Sukumar, do you mind if this turns into an IAF airpower discussion thread? there are a lot of good posts on this thread that dont really fit anywhere else. This way the thread stays above the water line, and if someone who can answer your question comes along later they're more likely to see it. Vik...

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Indian military thought seems to revolve around: 1. Inflicting major damage to Paki military and economic infrastructure rather than huge territorial gains and cutting Pakistan in two That seems a likely use of the enhanced strike capability when (or if) its operationalised. Coerce, Punish or deter...

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I absolutely support the need for a dedicated and independant force that can use airpower in a strategic manner - recce, strike and mobility. The other side of the coin is that I expect 'tactical' obligations to the ground forces to be fully met - after all the same air forces would be throroughly u...

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From Response Options: Future of Indian Air Power Vision 2020 written Jan 2001 by Air Cmde. RV Phadke, IDSA Senior Fellow (my bolding): Instead of entering into a futile debate on whether or not the IAF will provide CAS let us see the dynamics of it. The Americans see CAS as an integrated operation ...

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HSTrivedi, AFAIK the item has been transferred from owner to owner alternatingly by coercion and inheritance from coercers. Who as an individual deserves restitution? If on the other hand people are talking about a restatement of ownership as a symbolic apology for the non-consenual transfer of weal...

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Sree,Lt.Gen Sir Anthony Piggott is J-3 for the UK. However the Chief of the Defence Staff himself (Admiral Sir Michael Boyce) has handled most of the news conferences for 9-11 related operations. Perhaps someone can invite 'Balderdash' formerly of the IAF and now of AFM forum to comment on CAS in th...

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Dont just thank ASI, thank ISRO. The availability of affordable multispectral remote sensing imagery from has changed the whole game of locating sites. I've met several people from ISRO who are extremely proud of the boost to archeology and by extension the search for the sub-continents past

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FACs have to be able to see the enemy to do their job properly. Preferrably that means sitting on a ridgeline with a pair of binoculars, but often as not it means sharing trenches with the infantry on the forward edge of battle. The 'F' after all stands for 'Forward'. Given that the question is how ...

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ok as promised. The above post covered planned CAS requests. The aircraft after receiving the ATO will at a certain control point intitiate contact with the FAC, airborne (typically a Gazelle helicopter in the British Army) or on the ground (usually with lead recce elements) on the air direction net...

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Sree There are two aspects; planning CAS and actually calling it in. Only have time to sketch out the first part right now. In both cases I will try to give the idealised version to keep things simple. Integrated fire support planning which includes CAS, attack helciopters, arty (and on lower levels...

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