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Some random/unrelated thoughts on the topic: I dont fully understand where the rigidity in the education system came from, and more importantly, why does it still persist. It is easy to say 'Macaulay', but I wonder if there is more to it. I think a BIG part of perpetuating the rigidity (apart from ...

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But there are some Islamic things that are OK with Hindus that have not made it into your list 1. Islamic dress code 2. Call to prayer 5 times a day 3. The right to "be different" 4. The right to form a "jati" with its own codes of conduct within its own community Islam survived...

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I am against coaching classes as a concept but I can understand their uses. This one seems pretty cool from their ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Gw39OoSyI

Check out their proof of the Baudhayana ( Pythagoras ) theorem. It is very similar to that of Bhaskara's - probably inspired by it.

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When we in India fight with Islamism, it is useful to know what we are fighting. How much of the fight is between colonized minds and how much due to fundamental ideological differences. This is important because if we address Islamism the way the west does we may be scoring a goal for WU, against ...

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Interestingly however I know 1 person who decided to go for Masters in Biomedical Engineering ( at IIT ) after MBBS instead of becoming a practising doctor. He is now doing some good work in prosthetics .

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Poverty in the Indian context is a result of centralization and top down approach. It is based on a denial of even basic things by the elite. There is no reason why Indian villages should not be as good or better than the cities. What they need is good roads, internet connectivity and some basic hea...

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If I understand correctly, Indian medical education is vocational training, ie. it trains one to be a practicing doctor. Basically like ITIs train welders, fitters, electricians and so on. It is probably not well suited to research purposes.

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Here is the notion of equality as described in George Orwell's 1984 One could, in fact, only use Newspeak for unorthodox purposes by illegitimately translating some of the words back into Oldspeak. For example, All mans are equal was a possible Newspeak sentence, but only in the same sense in which ...

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Let me ask a slightly easier question. Why should we have "development"? Why not have some de-development? Why not make people poorer, or at least less wealthy? Why should "equality" mean taking everyone towards higher wealth levels? Why not push all of humanity towards lower we...

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One more point raised in the Hindu Nationalist thread about the alleged 'excesses' of Hindutvaadis such as 'pub attack', 'anti Valentine's day', 'don't wear jeans' and so on.. The problem with those methods are that they are trying to fix the symptoms instead of fixing the disease. We 'elites' bear ...

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I have been looking into some alternative systems of education developed by Indians in the last 100 years, and found at least 3 attempts: Vivekananda's Ramkrishna mission/ Mathas, Rabindranath Tagore's Shantiniketan, Madan Mohan Malviya's Benaras Hindu University. Unfortunately these were left confi...

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One of the important points brought out in the Hindu Nationalist thread was the use of English language and words that is the problem. By using words and terminology promoted by the west, we are falling into the trap of their line of thinking. The seculars will say- Hinduism is communal. Reply will ...

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The word Hindu, Hinduism, Hindutva were formulated by those outside of Hinduism ie. followers of Islam and Christianity. Therefore it is no surprise, that 'Hindu' movements are expressly opposed to Islam and Christianity and any other 'ism' which considers 'Hindus' to not be a part of that 'ism' ( e...

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Once again I ask What is Hindutva? This question cannot be answered. To be precise, it cannot be answered in the framework of knowledge that comes purely from the Indian ways of thinking, since they do not define the word Hindu and thus attach no meaning to it. It is like asking how many angels can...

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(30) durvacaka-yoga—art of practicing language difficult to be answered by others. <snip> (33) kavya-samasya-purana—art of solving enigmatic verses. (34) pattika-vetra-bana-vikalpa—art of designing preparation of shield, cane and arrows. (35) tarku-karma—art of spinning by spindle. (36) takshana—ar...

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So, everything she says is worthless? No. 'Durbaar' by Tavleen Singh is a masterpiece that everyone should read. It exposes the utter perfidy of the Nehru-Gandhi family and the Dilli centric political culture which was the outcome of 'secularism'. The Constitution of India was written by people wit...

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Tavleen Singh writing in The Indian Express: Fifth column: Stop Hindutva now When Leftist political pundits harangue me with charges that it was the RSS that helped Narendra Modi become prime minister, I tell them that they do not know what they are talking about. Leftists are usually allergic to d...

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don't see it happening easily. .A large proportion of the stakeholders are the current faculty ..and they ll oppose any reforms tooth and nail .. reforms have been tried at various points in the past.. they tried changing the examination system a couple of years ago and faculties unionized against ...

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Indian mathematics is another example. The "Pythagoras theorem" was developed by Baudhayana in 8th century BC and it is stated without proof in the sutras. This does not mean there was no proof! Of course there must have been. Indeed, Bhaskara gave a very elegant proof of the theorem. Simi...

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I believe that the biggest difference is that they are mentally open to new thoughts and are not already educated and "pre-loaded" with counter arguments that the "urban-educated colonized" have. I need to explain this and I say it in all seriousness. The west have put in such d...

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Like I said, the British believed that "language" was an intrinsic part of nation. They cooked up "Dravidian people" on the basis of philological (language related) differences. The Dravidian people spoke Dravidian languages and were a different dark skinned race. Who were they?...

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Medicos had something like that right? J1 visas where they have to come back and serve for two years. Is it only for fullbright Guggenheim etc.? What about Rhodes scholars? its 7 years actually.. but there is a way to work around ..and most people manage to not return... rhodes and guggenheim is no...

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gakakkad I will not make value judgements. But the truth is that most of the Indians who go abroad have no desire to return. Most of my IIT batch are good examples.

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The division between Dravidian and North Indian ('Aryan') languages exists. And we should not be ashamed of it. You need to explain what this means - because I speak Kannada, Tamil and Hindi and am familiar with spoken Marathi and Gujarati and I believe I have certain insights into how people from ...

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Shaurya - there is a huge Hindi divide in the country which cannot be good. Swacch Hindi is not going to become a link language anytime soon. But Mumbaiya versions and Bollywoodized versions may work better. Most native Hindu speakers do not instinctively recognize that languages like Bengali and K...

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We have a crisis as of today, where people do not master "any" language with sufficient literacy. This can be gauged by the number of literary works in any Indian language. Spoken forms of the language thrives however. This is correct. We are getting worse day by day. Nowadays little chil...

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There has been a big hue and cry in the media about the proposed introduction of Sanskrit language studies in schools . I have not figured out how and where the proposed idea will fit into the curriculum. I agree wholeheartedly that every Indian child, especially if he or she is Hindu, should learn...

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All the intellectual discussion would really matter if the non colonized minds could actually come up with a method to a) counter thuggery by other religions, forced conversions, local domination b) aggressive proselytization c) constant demonization of hinduism and its concepts Hindutva, as crude ...

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^^^ true that... teachers in India are teachers because they are good for nothing.,.. especially true in non-IIT engineering colleges ..(aam govt or pvt colleges) and most medical schools... who would join faculty positions in medical or engineering colleges if they were half capable of doing pvt p...

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I am not sure that a 'lawless' society is a great idea. We have already seen what happened in Lallu's jungle-raaj 'lawless' Bihar of the 90's. Gangs like "Ranveer Sena", muslim dons, naxalites, dacoits, kidnapping industry, etc. had a free-for-all. This was because of absence of law-and-or...

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I just finished a book titled 'No full stops in India' by Mark Tully. It is extremely good. The writer despite being a 'foreigner' sees the issues as it is, not through the mask of colonialism. The failure of socialism , secularism and top down nature of congress and bureaucracy. And the distancing ...

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Arjun wrote: Btw - I noticed in some posts above the use of the term Pitrubhumi. Since when did the more familiar Matrubhumi get replaced by Pitrubhumi ? Am I missing something?

Savarkar describes a 'Hindu' as one who regards Bharata as 'pitrubhumi' ( land of forefathers ) and 'punyabhumi' ( spiritual lands ).

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How do you prove history? What is history? Does history exist? Does it matter if history exists? Certainly, there is some form of archaeological and scientific history in the sense that we can dig up old stuff, do carbon dating, and so on. But even this is largely a matter of guesswork. For example...

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Shiv Ji, Have been absent from the thread for some time. But having returned to the thread. The discussion that I am seeing is not attempting an answer to the question asked? What I am seeing is a discussion on why we are the way we are as a society. But I don't think that this answers the question...

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Top down model nice pic

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It suddenly struck me that the entire Western nation state system is a top down model of Christianity. Islamic states again are top down models of Islam. There is no top down Hindu model - it is a bottom up model. And the absence of a top down model makes the nation vulnerable to criticsim and atta...

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Footnote: See how i use the word "blasphemy" to illustrate a concept that is so utterly worthy of condemnation. I am using Christian/ Abrahamic religion metaphor to illustrate the way sickular react to any claim of anything good or useful from Hindus. By using English I must use Christian...

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Here is a positive article by a westerner about India and 'secularism'.

http://www.niticentral.com/2014/08/27/j ... 36623.html

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Here is some of Arun Shourie's thoughts on government and reforms. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/modi-may-be-an-agent-of-change-but-he-has-to-reshape-an-entire-ocean/ In every government, including this one, the focus is on announcing new schemes. Each scheme adds a task to the...

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In fact order is maintained by respect and common sense. The road is being used by handcarts, cattle and vehicles. All have a right to pass. All must pass. the path of least resistance is always the best route rather than a rigid left and right. About queues, everyone must exit from one narrow door...

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