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Kopyo has relativy decent scan angles. And at a distance, I doubt f-16 can manuever out of the cone quicker than a bison turning the nose a few degrees to compensate. Jamming is a very real possibility. And no need to get worked up. I'm not questioning his war fighting capabilities. SOP of not firi...

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Yup, I know the ranges of that dogfight. I'm not questioning his decision to use R-73. I'm trying to understand the situation which went on up there, by the facts at hand. Even with a low scan angle, the cone would have been sufficiently large enough for a track, lock and fire, given the distances ...

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And also, wasn't the story floating around that the pir panjal range was inbetween them and their saab awacs couldn't see them as they took off from Srinagar? These guys were SOUTH of Jhangar and even south of the lead F-16. They DID NOT take from from Srinagar! Or they must have already been in CA...

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15-20km isn't close combat. Sneaking up after crossing into hostile territory and engaging in dogfight in that hostile environment? With their AWACS and ground radar painting them, they are trying to sneak up? Instead of firing their R-77s at the earliest possible opportunity during an interception...

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Isn't that extremely risky? They were doing all that INSIDE ENEMY AIRSPACE, all the while assuming the enemy AWACS and ground radar would not pick them up and alert the F-16s, turning the predator into prey. The enemy had both quantitative and qualitative superiority in that time and location. So th...

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It could be a simple case of 21s sneaking upon the 16s at a range which was closer to R-73s wheelhouse as against R-77s , at close ranges it's always better to engage using shorter range missile, besides R-73 is truly fire and forget . Close combat missiles like the R-73 and Sidewinder are far supe...

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And also, wasn't the story floating around that the pir panjal range was inbetween them and their saab awacs couldn't see them as they took off from Srinagar? These guys were SOUTH of Jhangar and even south of the lead F-16. They DID NOT take from from Srinagar! Or they must have already been in CAP...

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Didn't notice that in that map. The distance between Naushera and Bimbar is 25kms. So these guys were approximately 5km and 10km inside LOC. And the distance between the lead aircraft(abinandhan), and the lead F-16 is less than 15km. That is well within the NEZ of R-77. In the press conference, was...

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In the radar images released by the IAF, where the hell is abinandhan's wingman? Edit: He did say "radar image". So the question is where is his wingman? The 2 triangles south of Jhangar are probably Wingco and his wingman which would mean that both of them had already crossed the LoC in ...

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In the radar images released by the IAF, where the hell is abinandhan's wingman?

Edit: He did say "radar image". So the question is where is his wingman?

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^ Precisely. That means they precisely knew were the Su-30s were lurking. It was partly(or primarily) a Flanker kill mission to save their reputation after Bin Laden and Balakot strike. The tag of the first flanker kill will forever crown them and they would have never shut up about it for the next ...

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If one listens to the DGISPR, he says clearly that the second aircraft crashed in Indian territory. Now why would he say that? A: That is because it fell in an unpopulated very remote difficult to reach area, with steep hilly features. Which explains why even the IAF and our intelligence has trouble...

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New Eyewitnesses claiming 2 parachutes and 2 pilots!

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Talking about the Bison, the Russians offered an engine upgrade(a modified RD-33 IIRC) too, but the IAF didn't opt for it because the Bisons were supposed to be on air for not for very long. The first bisons we got were in 2001. In 2006, IAF requested to extend the life of the Bisons to another 1500...

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Still cannot wrap around choosing a LGB attack. They probably thought using a long range stand off weapon would be a further escalation to the ammo dump they targeted in the brigade HQ. If long range weapons get employed what next? Cruise missiles and ballistic missiles with conventional payloads? ...

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It was a WVR engagement with R-73 so radar lock is not relevant to this. A radar lock speeds up the locking process as the co-ordinates are quickly transferred to the R-73 before it is launched. Or the missile's seeker is slaved to the radar to point it in the right direction. It can also be launch...

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Some more on the Radars on the Bison. Kopyo-21I Can Track- 8 Targets Can Simultaneously Engage - 2 Targets Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 57 km Kopyo-M Can Track- 10 Targets Can Simultaneously Engage - 2 Targets Max Detection for 5 sqm RCS - 80 km Some Bisons are equipped with Kopyo-21I and some with...

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India today showing the remains of AIM-120 C5 which missed the wingman according to the ndtv report!!

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Kashi wrote:
krish.pf wrote:Almost all people have no longer term strategic mindset.
Please elaborate on what you mean by that and how would you go about correcting it.

I'm talking about the aam aadmi who have no clue in defense and strategic issues and are only discussing it now because of the current tensions.

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The sad fact is even our own MEA has not confirmed it was F-16 . It's only the DDMs who are saying that along with their every breath. While they have a pilot and a wreakage to parade in front of the media, we only have the go by words of our MEA. Looking at the kind of language of third part observ...

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Pakistan will do their outmost to show how caring they are for POW. IAF polit will be given a "royal" treatment and it will be used as PR. Problem now for India is that it will have to escalate and show Pakistani damage. My only fear is that their F-16's armed with sidwinder L are good an...

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MiG-21 Bison shot down pak aircraft, confirmation by MEA.
Which pak aircraft is not officially confirmed by MEA.

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Yes, which is what we WERE trying to avoid in this Rafale's case. I hope we still are.

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It is one of the solutions. Now, do you really think this would not have been considered? The Govt is not the Defense ministry alone, there are other arenas where India needs French partnership. From technological cooperation to International political backing. And then there is the IAF that vocall...

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IMO, the best would have been to get additional MKIs and improve the operational readiness of the existing ones, and stick with Tejas. And if IAF insists on the 3rd fighter logic, when the rest of the major airforces only have a 2 fighter types policy, then get them some new mothballed MiG-29S's and...

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Thanks for dumbest decision yet in the history of the IAF, Modi. You will always be remembered for this stupidity. Is the contract signed? Is it close to being signed? Is there a surety that it will be signed? Why pronounce judgement even before the charges have been read? The contract was initiate...

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NEW DELHI: Terming the UPA's proposed deal for 126 Rafale fighter jets as "economically unviable" and not required, Defence minister Manohar Parrikar has said the NDA government will buy only 36 of the French aircraft, to be used for strategic purposes, and no more. Parrikar also raised q...

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Not a good decision to cap it to 36 ....would lead to expensive fighter to maintain and procure. If they really wanted to support tejas then why buy those 36 at all just invest all money in Tejas program. They should buy 5-6 squadron and build MRO and local production facility in India The most nor...

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Wow.. getting 2 squadrons in a govt to govt deal with absolutely no chance of overhaul or deep maintenance capability in the country. What a master of cunning-ness the current govt is. Way to go BJP, good one there. Just goes to show the experience the party has when it comes to dealing with situati...

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Krish - You can buy directly at the venue but 21st and 22nd Feb being Saturday and Sunday so there will be crowd, hence I suggest you to register online. Simply register for ADVA Rs600/- registration, carry the confirmation payment page which also shows you your unique registration & get the pa...

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Hi all, I need some info on the online booking for general visitors. While booking online, it says - 6. Your payment will take a minimum of one working day to reach the DEO account. You should take this into consider while making your payment. How long does it take for the payment to get processed? ...

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Aircraft taking of from ski jump on a carrier say a 200m run not only depends on TWR but also say approach speed of the aircraft i.e, wing design or say take of speed of aircraft on full load. If my memory serves right for earlier version of mig 29 take of speed was 125knots, Su27 take of speed was...

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From their IDEAS 2014 poster which got over last week. http://s1.postimg.org/5oxxp3xb3/jf_17specsphotoshop.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/yz3iu0zw3/jf_17specsphotoshop.jpg http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i65/elite-falcon07/2010122615257ff30761.jpg This fan made photoshop came out more than 2 years ago....

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^ Exactly. The level to which some posters stoop to peddle this flying box so that the country of their residence and the country of their origin come closer, is nauseating to say the least. :rotfl: I live in India. Mihir lives in the US. Keep talking. I have been following this thread regularly fo...

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Apologies if posted before. JF-17 evolution from the MiG-21(F-7), and Family tree. http://s13.postimg.org/l52243t13/grumman_super_7_sabre_II_1_big.jpg http://s13.postimg.org/3t1pinzjr/grumman_super_7_sabre_II_2_big.jpg http://s13.postimg.org/u2ms1glh3/grumman_super_7_sabre_II_3_big.jpg http://s13.po...

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All is not well in the JF-17 world. Chinese are smart businessmen. They are peddling their F-7s and K-8s over JF-17 in the JF-17 target market. In the end money is tallel and deepel than anything for the Chinese.

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^ Exactly.

The level to which some posters stoop to peddle this flying box so that the country of their residence and the country of their origin come closer, is nauseating to say the least.

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http://i.imgur.com/xO1ZRgw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xTW8Qun.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jSMKcAH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/obwAn9I.jpg http://i.imgur.com/y0DSfOx.png ^ Interview on the JF-17 Thunder (Feb 2014 AFM). Lot of important info. Some of them off the top of my head- # Radar is KLJ-7 V2 # It seems SD-10...

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Sad news. May she rest in peace, and the only way she can rest in peace is if STharoor rots in prison. Corruption, shady dealings in the gulf and now this. I hope he doesn't go Scott free atleast after this.

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