Bharat Rakshak

Rangudu You could have said "India does need US Congress approval," and saved some effort and bandwidth. My response is "You are wrong and could not be more wrong" Let's end it there. I'm not interested in arguing where the other party cannot make a pithy point. Arguing for the s...

Rangudu What you call "provocations" are basically asking for you to make your point. If your point is a philosophical one such as "If US is not on board, India will suffer" etc. is like saying the sky is blue. If that is not the case, can you please make your point in 1-2 senten...

Sanjay M Still, it does no harm to ratchet up the pressure on them, by showing them that deals are being signed with France and Russia while they filibuster, fulminate, and pass hot air. True, but it is already known to the people who matter and who should know about it. Companies who have interest ...

Rangudu Seriously, you need to read up more. 95% of US legislators are for this deal. If it comes to the floor vote, this thing will pass nearly unanimously. The House Speaker, Senate Majority leaders, chair of Senate committee in concern are all for it fully. The obstacle here is from one committee...

What nonsense.

The US is fully on board. This is just a petty tussle between the executive a couple of obstinate legislators.

Response was mainly to the following quote..

There is no need for the deal to be approved by US Congress its the Waiver that is important. And thats done.

Rangudu I don't think you know what you are talking about. If the bottleneck is the Congress, then the NSG clearance is a joke. The theory that you are propagating is simply a joke. NSG clearance = 123 is meaningless. I can say the same about you but that will not serve any purpose. Without US being...

Rangudu Russia and France WILL supply anything we want regardless of the passage of 123. As a political quid-pro-quo India is right ti give the US one good shot at getting things cleared in the Congress. If that fails, it's US firms' loss not ours. In theory, yes, they will supply anything India wan...

Ramana A point to note. There is no need for the deal to be approved by US Congress its the Waiver that is important. And thats done. Its only Indian reasonableness that prevents them from executing other agreements for commerce till the US Congress also agrees so that there is level playing field f...

Shiv Let me first lay down a standard - a unit of measurement for "general knowledge, knowledge of geopolitics, science. technology and knowledge of various countries of the world nd a general degree of sophistication and being worldly wise". I will not give this unit a name, but will say ...

Gerard

Doesn't this imply that the rate of production of nuclear weapons remains constant?

Sure, it does.

Rahul M

Many thanks.

Anirban, I remember. Was wondering about Rahul M becoming a moderator.

Belated Congratulations!

Ramana It s not what I am saying. Please go read the interview slowly. I took your suggestion on board, and have re read the interview. I am aware that it is not you who is saying that. I responded to your own interpretation of that interview. Pray with what? The amount/number is fixed; the future t...

Rahul M

check jagan's post in this very page.

Thanks for the reply.

That address is probably for Seetal Patel whereas I have been wanting to contact someone like yourself (a moderator) who actively moderate the forum.

Ramana So they have frozen the nuke weapon programs to the level that NDA had come up with. And they are in that sense seat warmers and managers and will not or cannot make any decsions otherwise. Jaswant Singh was loqacious about how the numbers will change based on the security threat and India ca...

How to write to an admin or admins?

I have looked around but have not found an address to get in touch with an admin or admins (moderator/s)

Suppiah Whereas we, when it comes to our commitments (Example: Tibet, Taiwan), not only make it official but recite it forwards and backwards with head bowed and arms crossed on all possible occasions. I dont blame Pranab here, it is a common malaise, even NDA was not immune to it. It is not about a...

Suppiah Exactly as I posted a couple of days back - it is only MKN talking about China, even FM not willing to show backbone. Now let us all believe Chindu and sing Kumbhaya and forget about China. MKN cannot say what he has said about China without having clearance from PM/PMO. China knows it, worl...

Suraj The so called 'thundering silence' is part of how they play their game. It is a mistake to judge them by the lack of a known initial position. Given the history between India and China and the unease in the relationship, even IF China was all for India becoming part of NSG, China could not hav...

Ramana The Indian demarche to PRC went out in the weekend. Take a look at the time zone diffrence between Vienna and New Delhi. And back calculate at what time the demarche went out. Hint it was quite late on Friday night! And what that means to PRC H&D. Where is their face now? Why did they let...

Raja Ram Example when we let go of the opportunity of a permanent membership of the Security Council and argued the case for China. In an otherwise reasonable post, the above quoted part is not correct. India was never really offered membership of Security council. If one does some more reading on t...

No international pact, no treaty can stop India from doing another nuclear test in the supreme national interest.

Said by former president of India, Dr APJ Kalam on NDTV

He also said self moratorium was declared because scientists were confident of the desired results (words to this effect)

John Snow Keeping at a safe distance be it friend or foe is always desirable. Not according to the dialogue in Godfather. :) India has changed but unkil has not changed his vision, only tatctics. I do not know or am sure about what "vision" is being referred to here. However, broadly speak...

NRao What will come back to haunt is the lack of transparency - the Hindu editorial is an example, where people expect what a PM states only to realize that he is either duping or being duped. Lack of transparency is nothing new. This is how govts the world over operate/govern. I fully understand in...

NRao India is doing both today - building nukes and circulating non-proliferation plans in the UN. So, how can it come to haunt? My response was to the part where it says, "more vocal". Besides it is the GoIs job to make sure that it does not come back to haunt There hardly is any govt in ...

John Snow "Keep at a safe distance" in relations with unkil Times have changed... and so has India. India of today is much more confident. It is not an India of 70/80s. Isn't there a dialogue in Godfather movie to the effect.."Keep your friends close but enemies closer".. Though ...

Narayanan

[quote]Hey, it's 6:30 pm in Prussia - the OPEC (Organization of Poo Exporting Counties) goons must have gone into their booze-and-cheese reception by now. No news?[/quote]

May turn out to be good news for India with a clean and unconditional waiver from NSG.

Ramana Quote: "Raj_Singh, I dont understnad you post. What is its intent?" Earlier there was a post saying: All this assumes that US has fooled/forced MMS to go for this CRE charade. What if the current ruling dispensation is using the US bogey to actually do the CRE themselves for various...

Ramana Quote: "Raj_Singh, I dont understnad you post. What is its intent?[/quote]" Merely to state that US and India both have their own goals, and at times, both can be on opposite side and still do business. Actually, my own chain of thoughts on this has got broken. May come back on this...

Quote: "I feel India needs to be a lot more vocal and proactive on non-proliferation while still working to break the inequalities by producing more potent weapon systems. That is the only language the West understands.[/quote]" Words on this can cut both ways. And most likely come back to...

Ramana

quote:
"CRE= Cap, Rollback, Eliminate A policy goal of the US Admins for India since Jimmy Carter.[/quote]"

Sure, but India's goal has been complete opposite of US Admins goal and one sees it is only India achieving its goal.

John Snow That is why I suggested a complete confidence motions be tabled. Not clear on what is meant by "complete confidence motions". It was a complete confidence motion which MMS won in the parliament. Had he lost the "confidence motion" only then, "no confidence motion&q...