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by jayaaren
24 Feb 2016 14:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Kanhaiya Kumar from JNU booked for sedition, Umar & others arrested for sedition ... don't want to get into what actually happened, were the videos doctored or not etc.. But this is crystal clear and is the height of sedition... well that's a light word .. I'd term this as treason - while our be...
by jayaaren
23 Feb 2016 11:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

From what we can glean from reported on TV and posted here, 3 Para (SF) KIA - Capt. Kumar, Capt. Mahajan & L.Nk. Prakash were hit during room entry. Similar to what happened to Hav. Singh at Nariman House and to NSG personnel who fixed the terrorists in the guest & conference rooms at Taj as...
by jayaaren
21 Feb 2016 17:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Just read this http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/capt-pawan-kumar-a-jat-jnu-degree-holder-and-a-soldier/article8264404.ece speaks volumes of the present situation in the country and how the Pawan Kumars out there teach all those agitating in JNU and Haryana what is means to belong to a country n...
by jayaaren
21 Feb 2016 17:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Casualties might be lower but a disturbing trend is that we are losing more of our better trained people. Now you may put it down to increased op tempo for these better trained units but here again an increase in ops should not mean an increase in casualties. I would assume that MOUT & CQB train...
by jayaaren
18 Feb 2016 14:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Army News & Discussions - 11 June 2014
Replies: 3946
Views: 596387

POWs of 1971

Pls. correct me if wrong but did anything come of this
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indi ... 21955.html
by jayaaren
28 Nov 2015 13:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/IGI-gets-elite-unit-to-foil-Paris-like-strike/articleshow/49941091.cms saw this on Times - City section. now we have a new hostage rescue unit??? trained in 3 months. am not a special forces or swat operative but surprised that a hostage rescue unit coul...
by jayaaren
13 Apr 2015 09:50
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014
Replies: 3963
Views: 151763

Re: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions-9 August, 2014

Surprising no one has come out stronger against SS for the I Will Go To Court thing. Seems he was out of the news cycle and now wants to be back in. Might I venture to help SS see the light: Egypt wants the Rafale, 24 to be precise Canada wants the Rafale over the F35 Kuwait is looking at the Rafale...
by jayaaren
27 Jan 2015 12:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Singha ji, If I recall correctly, the inadequacy of the local police force was pointed out in an India Today issue during the Terror in Punjab. The ill equipped policeman was cited as a factor in the rise of Terror there. 26/11 simply put the issue out over the TV. Sad to say that the situation cont...
by jayaaren
27 Jan 2015 10:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Karan ji, pls correct me if wrong. thought that the French have a possible hierarchy as follows: GIGN part of the National Gendarmerie and thus Armed Forces somewhat akin to our NSG RAID part of the French National Police - we have no such units GIPN part also part of the French National Police aka ...
by jayaaren
01 Dec 2014 18:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2406
Views: 373782

Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discus

Vaibhav ji, Raja Bose ji & Jamwal ji, If the casualties occurred when the vehicle was fragged, so was the area being patrolled by the units involved. News reports indicate that units of 157 TA, 5 Sikh LI, 5 JAK Rif and ? Para (SF) were on site. So were entire battalions involved or just platoons...
by jayaaren
01 Dec 2014 10:15
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2406
Views: 373782

Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discus

While we are not privy to the tactics of the army units and personnel on the ground at Arnia, it is surprising that we lost 3 of ours (Naik Kulwinder & Lance Naik Joginder of 5 Sikh LI and Naik Pawan Singh of Para (SF) against 4 terrorists. As a professional all volunteer army our tactics should...
by jayaaren
19 May 2014 09:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion
Replies: 2406
Views: 373782

Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discus

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Army-jawan-killed-2-injured-in-militant-attack-in-Jammu/articleshow/35326189.cms Can anyone tell me the basis of classification of militants and terrorists. Why is the press afraid of just calling them terrorists. Its high time we stopped archaic and politica...
by jayaaren
13 Jun 2013 11:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

<SNIP>I thought SRG was to support SAG. As for GIGN, note that EPIGN has now been folded into it. Also for large scale ops, GIPN & RAID are used to back them up. So, you've been reading about the GIGN on the net? Should have done before you started talking about NSG and what should be and what ...
by jayaaren
05 Jun 2013 14:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

<SNIP>I thought SRG was to support SAG. As for GIGN, note that EPIGN has now been folded into it. Also for large scale ops, GIPN & RAID are used to back them up. So, you've been reading about the GIGN on the net? Should have done before you started talking about NSG and what should be and what ...
by jayaaren
04 Jun 2013 11:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

<SNIP> Op Blue Star exposed our lack of a unit specialized in CQB. 1 & 10 ParaCommando were at that time the only specialized unit that we had albeight a DP & DA unit. SFF was to be used in the same way but along the NE borders. So we threw in the best we had. And we bled. Then the NSG came...
by jayaaren
03 Jun 2013 13:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

I have some queries on the whole MP Chowdhary thing: our planners probably got it muddled when they set up the NSG in the first place. They culled men to form a unit based on the SAS, GSCG9 and GIGN but failed to realise that there is a world of difference between what the SAS was being use for and...
by jayaaren
01 Jun 2013 16:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

in my limited understanding - sas's primary mission is behind the lines recon and targetting, not hostage rescue - they have dedicated squads for that SAS was created for a DA role in the North African deserts, then went on to perform assistance & training for partisans & marquis. They then...
by jayaaren
01 Jun 2013 12:50
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Good debate, I would say. Things get fleshed out better and we get actually Surya to write bigger posts... :mrgreen: My two cents - (a) The regional hub business has screwed lot of things. More than anything, the political diktat to implement it post-haste has meant that there is mixing and matchin...
by jayaaren
27 May 2013 15:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

If we go by benchmarking, then lets benchmark everything, right from rectruitment, selection, training, tactics, equipment, weapons etc. Granted that 26/11 was a first timer, but what we lacked clearly impacted what we should have done. All tactics employed atleast those visible were based on a sie...
by jayaaren
26 May 2013 11:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Surya, again I do not dispute that we have not kept it to the level we should (hell MP Chowdhury says it so who am I to question it) but you made a wholesale blanket statement and linked to the time taken to clear it. RajitO at least narrowed his criticism to the nariman house ops. what benchmark do...
by jayaaren
25 May 2013 16:20
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Sbangera,

I would think you had better choice. And if you are basing your views on what's on TV, try Seal Team 6, The Raid that Killed Bin Laden or Act of Valor or Tears of the Sun
by jayaaren
25 May 2013 15:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Surya, As i said in the post, we are not against the guy on the ground trying to do a difficult job. But hey if we need him to do a good job, then we need to prepare him for it. I might not be a tactical ops specialist but the writing is there on the wall for all to see. Tactics, training and equipm...
by jayaaren
23 May 2013 14:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Definitely the clean sheet approach. A complete overhaul is needed. Case in point, The 26/11 Mumbai ops. NSG functioned like any ordinary infantry unit. Their CQB skills seemed to have disappeared. You may fault the lack of NVGs, TIs, building plans and the whole lot of what was not there or availab...
by jayaaren
02 May 2011 13:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Newbie Corner & Military Miscellaneous
Replies: 4126
Views: 477706

Re: Newbie Corner & Military Miscellaneous

The surgical strike on Osama Bin Laden is more than ample proof of a the potential for success when both the intelligence community and armed forces work together. One wonders whether the Indian intel community and armed forces cannot replicate this to strike against our nation's enemies.
by jayaaren
14 Jan 2010 07:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 697229

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Good Day Dear All, i was wondering all this brouaha about our spec ops/covert ops capabilities. let's look at the following facts: RAW on the face of it does not seem to have a SAD aka CIA Our spec ops units - SF Bn, Marcos, SFF have on the face of it never been trained to operate in covert roles We...
by jayaaren
10 Jun 2009 00:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Newbie Corner & Military Miscellaneous
Replies: 4126
Views: 477706

Re: Newbie Corner & Military Miscellaneous

Good Day BRites, as a newbie myself, i believe that we ought to take it from the start. while we have overhauled our military doctrine inline with AirLand battle and Combined Arms Formation usage, the basic issue of O&E of the armed forces personnel is still not addressed. the army for one, we m...
by jayaaren
12 Dec 2008 22:27
Forum: Terrorism Archive
Topic: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV
Replies: 2097
Views: 177683

Re: Terror Attacks in Mumbai - IV

These are a just a few of the questions that people are asking However i believe that the following measures need to put through: address the issue as a national security threat and not a law enforcement issue form an appropriate dedicated counter terrorist unit. examples are 22 SAS, 1st SFOD-A, GIG...

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