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by Roop
13 Apr 2019 01:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 2991
Views: 386720

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

(emphasis mine) ... there are some voices from our side which are worth paying attention to , at least for rational debate to take place. I am talking about Praveen Sawhney This is your problem right here ... the fellow you quoted is not worth paying attention to. There are, of course, many other do...
by Roop
01 Sep 2008 01:05
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Caucasus Crisis
Replies: 1226
Views: 85270

Re: Caucasus Crisis

Y. Kanan: Good post. I may have some minor quibbles with it, but nothing important enough to post here.
by Roop
16 Aug 2008 01:12
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Caucasus Crisis
Replies: 1226
Views: 85270

Re: Caucasus Crisis

Who got Georgia into this? (emphasis mine) So where did the Georgians get the silly idea that the U.S. would bail them out? Maybe from John McCain, Republican heir apparent, whose top foreign policy advisor, Randy Scheunemann, also just happens to be a highly paid lobbyist for the Georgian governme...
by Roop
14 Aug 2008 23:31
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Caucasus Crisis
Replies: 1226
Views: 85270

Re: Caucasus Crisis

Vladimir Putin's mastery checkmates the West The cartoon images have shown Russia as an angry bear, stretching out a claw to maul Georgia. Russia is certainly angry, and, like a beast provoked, has bared its teeth. But it is the wrong stereotype. What the world has seen last week is a brilliant and...
by Roop
07 Feb 2008 08:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 397
Views: 269157

The Russians have the trust but not the competence/credibility. The US has the competence/credibility but not the trust. Exactly. This sums up India's problems pretty well. If the Americans want to tap into the lucrative Indian arms market, they have to build up political trust. I doubt anyone in I...
by Roop
07 Feb 2008 08:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 397
Views: 269157

viveks wrote:I see propaganda!


Where? Please point out specific posts/articles containing said propaganda, to help us understand what you are saying.
by Roop
03 Feb 2008 11:24
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Indo-French Ties
Replies: 213
Views: 22956

Shouldn't that actually be Vive La France? Yes, you're right. I personally find French people more humble and down to earth than americans and brits. I agree that the French can be very warm and friendly when you visit their country, but it helps a lot if you speak and understand some French. I fin...
by Roop
27 Jan 2008 21:51
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Indo-French Ties
Replies: 213
Views: 22956

Does this kind of rant even belong on BRF? Of course not, but you have to understand that there are a few members of the "God Bless America" crowd here who seek to prove their own manhood by this mindless chant "cheese-eating surrender monkeys". It's embarassing -- not for Franc...
by Roop
10 Sep 2007 02:27
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 9 Sept 2007
Replies: 239
Views: 41819

Following May 1998, it was India's govt. that explicitly declared a unilateral moratorium, declared that the five tests had been successful enough that India did not need more tests, and EXPRESSED WILLINGNESS TO SIGN THE CTBT AS A NUCLEAR WEAPON STATE. and You guys are arguing as if 1. India's unil...
by Roop
09 Sep 2007 21:16
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 9 Sept 2007
Replies: 239
Views: 41819

Rye: You have summed up very well what I was thinking: this thread has taken a 180-degree turn in the last 24 to 48 hrs. I have no idea what caused it -- it has all been very sudden -- but Arun_S says that some dots were connected. So... I am now going back to lurk mode on this topic. It is too myst...
by Roop
09 Sep 2007 07:39
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 9 Sept 2007
Replies: 239
Views: 41819

Looking back at the reports, it appears that MMS and Co. plan to exchange diplomatic notes before the IAEA and NSG negotiations (unless the GoI is confident that it will manage to complete the IAEA and NSG negotiations within a few weeks), which seems like a bad idea It would be a terrible idea, if...
by Roop
09 Sep 2007 06:12
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 9 Sept 2007
Replies: 239
Views: 41819

Rye: I don't understand what you mean by 'operationalize'. In fact it's not just you, lots of people are slinging this term around. What precisely does it mean? As far as I know, the 123 agreement is inactive and of no significance until all of the following steps are complete (in the specified orde...
by Roop
06 Sep 2007 05:10
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 4 Sept 2007
Replies: 232
Views: 47238

I am not in the mood to reinvent the wheel for you and if you find that as an excuse to vilify and go on another YB rampage "Rampage"??!! You need to consider using a dictionary to look up the meaning of the word. LDev (to whom your remark was directed) posts maybe once every couple of da...
by Roop
03 Sep 2007 06:10
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

enqyoob: Sure, all those bad things may happen, but at least we will still have our H&D. :rotfl: We will have avoided an agreement with the Americans, and we will have avoided making China/Iran mad. These things should count for something, no? Seriously, we need to consider the possibility that ...
by Roop
03 Sep 2007 05:41
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

Re. the cries to "renegotiate the deal": There are two reasons why the deal, if it fails now, will not be renegotiated for at least another generation (say twenty years or so): ⋅ No one in the US would want to do it, and ⋅ No one in India would want to do it. America : ...
by Roop
02 Sep 2007 19:45
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

All deals are re-negotiable, if you have the fight in you to do so. Let us say, put a BK or BC on the chair or even an ABV and see what happens.


I'll tell you what will happen: he will be sitting in the chair with no one on the other side to negotiate with.
by Roop
02 Sep 2007 18:40
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

sraj: Please re-read the opening comment addressed to ldev and Valkan in my post: my post was in the specific context of a discussion with these two posters about whether US NPT obligations required... Well actually your post was addressed to (emphasis mine) "ldev, Valkan, anyone else still wan...
by Roop
02 Sep 2007 17:13
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

Extracted from Deception: Pakistan, the United States and the Secret Trade in Nuclear Weapons, to be published by Atlantic Books on September 13 Do you imagine you are telling us anything we didn't know already? This stuff (American duplicity during the Cold War) is not new, it has been widely disc...
by Roop
01 Sep 2007 22:37
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

Just look at the double-talk coming from the Commies. On the one hand they say that MMS is lying/exaggerating about the amount of nuclear power that will come onstream if the deal goes through (i.e. they say the deal won't make much change in India's available electric power); then, on the other han...
by Roop
01 Sep 2007 22:02
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

Shankar: I have already answered your questions to me re. the scientists, but you apparently reject these answers and have some other (unstated) explanations. Maybe the scientists are traitors in the pay of the CIA. Maybe they are ignorant fools. Maybe they are actually android robots with chips imp...
by Roop
01 Sep 2007 21:21
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

Prabu wrote:Sonia nukes critics, praises PM for N-deal


The link is screwed up. Here it is:

Sonia nukes critics, praises PM for N-deal
by Roop
01 Sep 2007 05:47
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 31 Aug 2007
Replies: 298
Views: 73482

...with all due respect to all of Indias top nuclear scientists who till a year back was so mcuh against the deal have sudden;ly turned around and now support the deal -why? And with equal respect to India's top naysayers, this question that you pose as a cosmic level mystery is no mystery at all, ...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 07:10
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

Let me take this opportunity to point out that Page 2 of this very thread has a post by member arun debunking this idea that all IMs oppose this deal. There is an article by a Muslim author Abusaleh Sharif making exactly this point. So if Seema & Co are saying that all or most IMs hate this deal...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 06:44
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

MR and Ldev, you are getting angry at the messenger and not at the message. That's a matter of opinion. I think Seema M is more than just a messenger, she is an advocate of a point of view. But if this POV is so strong, it should be expressed out in the open, and challenged out in the open. None of...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 05:09
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

Ramana: What you are saying, in effect -- what Seema M. is saying -- is that this deal should be rejected simply because Indian Muslims hate America and will start terrorist acts to dissuade the govt from accepting the deal. In other words, Mecca/Tehran/Islamabad/Dacca get a veto on Indian foreign p...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 04:04
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

Tilak: All your questions re. negotiations with the IAEA are hypotheticals, hence impossible to answer, because India has barely started negotiating with the IAEA. What I feel about the IAEA and/or the NSG can be summarised as follows: any condition put by them on us that is more restrictive than th...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 03:51
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

Vijay Hirani: Thanks. The other issues that the opponents tout include: 1. India is not getting the same 123 deal as China. 2. Look at what happened to Tarapur. So, whatever the USG says, cannot be trusted. Thanks. My responses: 1. The assertion that "China got a better deal" is dubious (o...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 02:20
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

Both sides of the bench have valid argument. Wrong! Opponents of the deal do not have valid arguments. (If they do, they’ve kept them well hidden). All they have, all they have offered up so far are phobias, paranoia and polticial rants. Here is a summary what pro-deal people list as the potentia...
by Roop
26 Aug 2007 02:19
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

--- deleted. Double post. ---
by Roop
25 Aug 2007 05:33
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 24 August 2007
Replies: 261
Views: 48143

When he calls the desi media headless chickens, he is being understated but on target. Yes, but I think the reason for the 'tempest in a teacup' about his remarks is that he *wasn't* just referring to journalists. I'm sure he had in mind various and sundry panic-mongers (the think-tank types like B...
by Roop
17 Aug 2007 02:59
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 49349

...one of the US interlocutors wanted the Indian economy to be linked so tightly to the US that there is a disinclination to test. Looks like 123 achieves that. I strongly disagree with the last sentence. How exactly has 123 achieved a disinclination to test? There's a strong disinclination to test...
by Roop
16 Aug 2007 03:24
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 49349

That link is messed up. Let me see if I can fix it here.
by Roop
15 Aug 2007 10:51
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 49349

The jackel slowely showing its true colours.. Yesterday Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh told his parliament that the agreement would not affect any plans to test nuclear weapons. But a US State Department spokesman says all co-operation will be terminated if a test takes place. There is nothin...
by Roop
14 Aug 2007 20:15
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 13 Aug 2007
Replies: 338
Views: 49349

JEM sar, Kindly elaborate, pls. Hajaar intriguing. I wasn't really paying close attention to this, so I could be wrong (JEM can correct me if need be), but I believe Shyam Saran is now in charge of negotiating for India with either the IAEA or the NSG, or both. As a general comment on this deal, it...
by Roop
11 Aug 2007 01:12
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 10 Aug 2007
Replies: 283
Views: 43420

Requesting Permission from BRadmins to do the usual kind and gentle treatment on any EBs coming here with the "Sell-Out! WE MUST TEST NOW! OUR WEAPONS DON'T WORK!" garbage. Well, I am not a BRadmin, but I recommend you go ahead with the KAG (kind and gentle) treatment of the EBs. :) Reall...
by Roop
09 Aug 2007 06:39
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 07 Aug 2007
Replies: 268
Views: 44708

Guys, this discussion is increasingly slipping into the realm of the surreal... JEM, you dreamer you! "Is slipping into..."??? This discussion crossed the line into irrationality several days ago. And the direction of motion is not back towards the border, but further in to Irrational Ter...
by Roop
08 Aug 2007 10:41
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: India Nuclear News & Discussion - 07 Aug 2007
Replies: 268
Views: 44708

A minor request: can we please avoid getting bogged down in economic discussions on this thread? On the 123 deal, I'm with Enqyoob and LDev. Much of the "criticism" of tis deal comes across as whining. "US wil do x-y-z bad things to us because of this deal" etc. Well, if the US w...
by Roop
31 Jul 2007 07:16
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuclear News & Discussion - 28 Jul 2007
Replies: 272
Views: 46262

If anyone recalls I said in 1999 that India should conduct these as estoppel. Yes, I remember that. In fact, you stressed the estoppel factor more recently as well (in the last couple of years), and I agreed. The others are stuck in sub-critical tests... By "others" do you mean desi bhais...
by Roop
31 Jul 2007 07:10
Forum: Nuclear Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Nuclear News & Discussion - 28 Jul 2007
Replies: 272
Views: 46262

enqyoob wrote:The EBs (Energizer Bunnies) are desperately looking for "sell-outs", unable to face the truth that the much-dissed UPA/Commie GOI seems to have out-bania'd the best of the banias.


They don't realize the cunning of the desi babus, the true EBs (Energizer Banias). 8)

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