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by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 18:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Eklavya,

Good logic. You are the first person in the forum to give a good argument.
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 17:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Errr, CJ, I said the boat WAS a terrorist boat. I was correcting your perception that just because ICG intercepted it does not make it low priority or harmless. If you read my whole post, then you'll realize that ICG has higher number of assets in Gujarat rather than IN. So its logical ICG was desi...
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 16:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

So if an incident happens when an ICG aircraft or ship was sent to track, then it doesn't mean that because IN was not involved, the threat was of low priority . I basically agree to what you are saying. This threat was low priority. I stated that explicitly that this is not a terror boat capable o...
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 13:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

They chased for an hour etc. With more experienced assets, the outcome could have been different.
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 09:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

My FB page has no bearing on this discussion as it is not me, but it is some other guys who are bringing in politics. It does have - it reflects your bias and why are you so afraid if others are brought to attention to your public facebook profile ? Also how convenient bring attention to your FV pa...
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 08:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

My FB page has no bearing on this discussion as it is not me, but it is some other guys who are bringing in politics.
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 08:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

prasannasimha wrote:So what should they have done ? You said the Navy did not respond (adequately) and that is the proof that it was a loving persons boat.Go back and see what you have written.


I have stated it above. You go and read.
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 08:36
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Tell me this Chacko. In your opinion did the boat blow itself up or did the Coast Guard sink it? Your opinion. I haven't stated any opinion on this before and will not since I have no clue on it. As per CG they lit a fire internally, which led to explosion and furious burning of the boat. Two other...
by chackojoseph
10 Jan 2015 07:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Shayms, You have summerised that perfectly. There are some points that in your subsequent questions which I want to reply. This is also for the folks who want to partially understand how we are being defended in the seas and what the ships do. Pre 91/11, there is a paradigm shift on our coastal defe...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 20:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

I only stated , reacting to a particular post that it has not been conclusively said by the govt that it is a terror boat. They said by circumstances. Then they said they will come with proof.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 20:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

I know I wrote that in the current context. So, i still don't agree that Cole incident can be compared to this where there is no surprise element.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 20:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

As a reader, you can decide Shiv. I have never asked my media to be taken for granted. It is hardly a matter. But, I don't agree with your personal opinion of equating Cole with this incident. Anyway ramanna is banning me. Ramana's actions are irrelevant to the issue. The fact is that you are perfe...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 19:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

As a reader, you can decide Shiv. I have never asked my media to be taken for granted. It is hardly a matter. But, I don't agree with your personal opinion of equating Cole with this incident. Anyway ramanna is banning me.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 19:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

You can ban me Rammana. I have no objection.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 19:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

There is an instance that IN ship was fired at. see what happens if its a chase or such. I do not agree with you even a bit on this Shiv. cole is very bad example. Indian navy destroys pirate ship after coming under fire "The INS Tabar closed in on the mother vessel and asked her to stop for in...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 19:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Shiv, that is your opinion. Even for VBSS, they do not go so close. The do send a recce with helio, followed by geminis at a safe distance. if the boat moves, they fire in front of it. I do not agree with you at all. Cole is absolutely different case. I find no relevance of Adm Prakash here. And who...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 19:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

K Mehta,

1) Just tell me the arms cache one can buy for rs 5 lakhs.
2) I am not replying to arrogant questions or repeats any more.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 18:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Shiv,

Cole bombing was a surprise. I thought of that. But this is not a surprise element. This was a chase. I do not agree that that boat can harm an IN boat. Normally, they form a cordon. gemini's and ships chopper are sent in advance etc. This has no parallels with cole incident.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 18:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

KMehta, Misleading is being attributed to the discrepancy in the release. The release that came to us mentioned Terror in heading and then did not mention terror in the body. That's how it started. We are asking what it is? On Praveen Swamy's charges, you can ask him. 1) haggling of which money? 2) ...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 18:14
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Ever thought that CG assets was at hand for the fastest possible reaction? Also Navy being in charge does not mean CG will not be used. To swat a fly (a fishing boat) you do not use a hammer (IN warship) but a swatter (CG patrol vessels). Regarding the 2nd boat, I remember reading that it developed...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 17:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

The coast guard is the initial point of defense of our Borders like the BSF for land. Does thearmy charge in for every terrorits intrusion along our Borders ? Since 9/11, there is a change in the policy. I have mentioned it already and is a repeat. Navy is over all incharge. The parallels cannot be...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 17:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Well, I will tell you my perspective, a repeat. My disbelief was because navy is over all incharge and if it was a terror boat, then why navy did not get involved. At that time Naval involvement was not known. If there were 2 terror boats why CG sent just 1 craft? Since there was a debate if it was ...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 16:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Why are you asking that to me? I am no way connected to a claim that CG sunk the boat. Infact this is a new one to me.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 14:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 161757

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

Infact once when funds were short, especially in 1980's, navy never stopped building, investing and loaning personnel in DRDO / R&D projects. They are reaping the benefits of those investments. The country possesses finest ships in their class, totally suited for India's own need and naval doctr...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 10:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 161757

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

Navy does from it's own budget or asks for allotment for more budget.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 10:41
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Coast Guard: News & Discussion
Replies: 425
Views: 47616

Re: Indian Coast Guard Discussion

I hope they are not just giving the "verification certificate" without any basic checks, even after taking Rs. 500. Well, it cannot be conclusively said. I remember the fisher folks telling me that there is a shortage of manpower. When boats are ready to leave and to get additional manpow...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 10:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

ramanna,

Let me decide what I want to do. If you find any forum rules broken, then tell me. However, your political tones with personal attack shows that you yourself are breaking the rules as moderator.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 08:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

We all have the right to speculate. But please understand that when a professional journalist (like yourself) speculate without any evidence it comes across very differently and plain incorrect. You should understand that the power or reach that the media has automatically holds you against a very ...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 08:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

shyams,

I am still waiting for example. Why this is silly theory here?
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 08:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Oh and pray, what evidence do YOU have that it is a smuggling boat? As a journalist, if you don't have evidence to present to public to back up your story, then you should not state it. The govt. on the other hand is not bound to such things since they have the prerogative to hide the evidence for ...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 08:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Shyams, I still am looking forward which countries you mention. I can think of only china where they issue releases and don't take questions. The boat blew up due to fire set up by the personnel inside as per CG statement. CG later stated that there were 2 jerrycans with approx 200 liters of fuel. s...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 07:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

I must also add that particular section of this forum, in their zeal for personal attacks, have tried to assign the blame on others that CG action is questioned. We have to take on these particular section to mislead and try to bring out the fake debate on CG actions.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 07:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

No one has disagreed or disregarded with CG action. The crux of the matter is what it was - a smuggling boat or a terror boat.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 07:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

shyams. Which country you are making an example where military does not question governments? Even in paki land, journalists end up dead or disappear as they have questioned their governments. it has not stopped someone or the other questioning their govt. GOI has not given its side of story. All it...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 07:33
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

saravana, why do you assign me with the credit of believing that it was not a terror boat. I speculated it might not be one, citing some circumstances; and govt speculated it is one, citing circumstances. Just because some vested interest in the forum shouted their loudest does not mean truth has be...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 07:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Replies: 3964
Views: 161757

Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013

Sid wrote:Highlighted part is desirable, but does IAF has funds or clout in Gov or DRDO to do it?


Yes. They don't do it. Navy funds tech demonstrators like KTMG, AIP etc.
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 06:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Coast Guard: News & Discussion
Replies: 425
Views: 47616

Re: Indian Coast Guard Discussion

ramanna, These things do not actually get implemented as fishermen / small boat owners cannot afford or maintain them. The corruption. As an example, Maharashtra requires id card to be issued if some wants to join a boat. Now, the verification takes weeks and months. So, if they are paid Rs 500, the...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 06:44
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Sid, Take this question in spirit. If the same happens to Indian's then? We term it poor people who strayed across, bombed by jihadists pakis (which ofcource they are). Maloy Krishna Dhar once told me a fact that I really understood well. I was in favour of R&AW constituting a black ops team eli...
by chackojoseph
09 Jan 2015 05:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Pak boat: Will put forth evidence in due time, says government There appears to be serious issue on the credibility of the claim that it was terror boat. Note that I am not saying it was terror boat or smuggling boat. Government is yet to bring out evidence that it is a terror boat and Parrikar's &...
by chackojoseph
08 Jan 2015 15:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat
Replies: 969
Views: 40636

Re: Breaking news: Coast guard intercepted terrorist boat

Our Coast Guard would have been very much within their rights, even to shoot and sink the intruder terror boat (which of course they did not do in this case) Above, i think Mr. Chacko Joseph, has been mis-quoted... here, he is not referring to the current incident.. he is referring to other (ind-pa...

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