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by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 15:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

Can never be a straight fix. Will take a lot of time, effort, testing but far faster than developing an AWACS from scratch.
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 15:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 3221
Views: 477636

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

And, some of the foreign military attaches & diplomats applauding too! We have to note them down. Why SSridhar ... ??? What an absurd thing to focus on .... When all of the world stands with us and vetoes pakistan attempts , do we want the same thing. No please no. Leave third part out of this....
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 15:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Perhaps I have become repetitive. I speak from a market's perspective so the base message will be the same. Their products would not sell unless they had some semblance of quality. Crap really doesn't sell. This is why I can state with reasonable certainty that you have not seen any market dynamics...
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 14:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Vivek, I think both the points should be discussed on one thread. Reason being an objective view should take into account the pros and cons of their build away, we'll see the rest later approach. It can be ruinous to India if we get awed by their profligation of platforms and try to react via massiv...
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 05:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

No more examples needed, Karan ji. I know even more examples and not just in the defense side of things. Cheen has a quality problem but it is overstated and relative to goras only IMO. If you know more examples then you'd surely also know it doesn't just extend to goras, but extends to many others...
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 04:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir
Replies: 3221
Views: 477636

Re: MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16 in Kashmir

Pakistan's AF getting fairly radicalized. Allah this, Allah that while discussing ACM tactics.
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 03:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 3739
Views: 497364

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

This gent is really sensible, and has his priorities very right. Right man for the job.
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 03:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 3739
Views: 497364

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Ok, lets also focus on what he says: Till 35:00 AEW&CS is being heavily used by IAF Guided Pinaka is in induction. Big news. WHAP - Wheeled Armor Platform - is no longer just a testbed, but IA etc are in discussions how to use it. MMG Shivalik - industry has taken up the tech & will be induc...
by Karan M
15 Sep 2019 00:45
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector
Replies: 3739
Views: 497364

Re: India's R&D in Defence DRDO, PSUs and Private Sector

Jay - I know, what the heck. :-?
At least we got the video.

Indranil - lol, see the dignitary + flower pot pics in most visits to establishments.
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 17:30
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

I am beginning to think the PRC MIC is basically a massive jobs program. Not only does it achieve PRCs stated goals of foreign policy respect by intimidation - look we have 500 ships, nevermind those ships may be subpar in reality, but the massive investment in local production keeps people happy, a...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 16:52
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Chola, you dont seem to get product development as you are looking at it purely as "iterations". Iterations don't matter diddly, until and unless you thoroughly debug and fix the issue with the first or second iteration. Check the products I have referenced above. Each was the 3rd or 4th i...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 16:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

There are 3 Akash programs. Akash Mk1 Akash Mk1S - w/seeker Akash Mk2, now the term Akash NG is used. So its likely the Akash Mk1S became the Mk2 The Mk2 became the Akash NG Makes sense? The prior report notes the order is for Akash 2. Since the NG is in devpt, if the report is correct, it means the...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 16:12
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

Iteration cycle is indeed fast & furious, and prudence demands that even if their stuff is crap, we assume it is serious. But multiple rushed production cycles of half-baked stuff remain a problem and the fast cycles could be well explained by how they are skimping on pain-staking testing and va...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 15:58
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

Range & endurance are heavily correlated. Basically take endurance as the amount of time it can remain in the air at cruising speed. You have both above. IMHO, the latter is more critical for an AEW and the max range of the C-295 is 5600 odd km vs the ERJ-145s 2900 odd km, matches the difference...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 15:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

>4x workstations (low for IAF) I have seen eight operator stations for C295. The cabin is 41 feet in length. Allowing for atleast 6 / 8 * 3-4 feet for each station (18-32) feet required space. Well, also have to add in all the cabinets for the radar, ESM etc, operator rest area/ galley/loo.. space ...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 15:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

"YLC-2C and YLC-18"

Same radars purchased by PAF for its gapfilling FWIW.
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 15:47
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016
Replies: 3936
Views: 747937

Re: China Military Watch - Sept' 2016

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by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 03:09
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

The AEW&CS have a Ground Exploitation System - which handles some of the heavy processing offboard & then datalinks back to the IACCS. GES is a mobile shelter that can be deployed in tactical field areas and acts as an interface between AEW&C and IACCS . GES receives air situation pictur...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 02:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Replies: 2812
Views: 445475

Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

By "Indian industry" - gives an opportunity for all pvt vendors to break into the 125mm tank ammo market, hitherto the preserve of OFB.
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 02:45
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Replies: 1913
Views: 211024

Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

>>Also there is this issue of fairness or rather lack of it with respect to police action in India. I have seldom seen police take action in ghettos of certain minority community if at all with the same zeal that they reserve for areas dominated by majority community. Increase in police manpower wou...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 02:35
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

About AWACS - returning back to thread topic. Please post anything about AWACS India if you come across it.
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 02:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

Karan ji - not disagreeing with you. However, 3 Rafales for a squadron of LCAs does not seem a wise choice. With time, DRDO/HAL/Indian MIC will develop an Asta NG/Mk2/3/4/5.... (especially if services work them and place large orders) that would be as good or better than AMRAAM. And the addition of...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 02:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

50km, expanded multi-target handling (10 target engage).
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 01:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

Karan ji, with all due respect - how does one maximize bang with 6 times more expensive aircraft? Isn't buying Rafales exactly the opposite of maximizing "bang for buck"? You have less money. Will you buy more of less capable platforms or one platform which can (theoretically) do "fa...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 01:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

C-295 AEW&C (the Israeli package on the C-295) 4x workstations (low for IAF) 360 degree radar (good!) 260knots cruise speed (vs ERJ-145s 450 knots), not great! 11 hours endurance (excellent, vs ERJ-145s 5 odd hours) Alt, 25000 feet (vs ERJ-145s 37000 feet), the radar range will be a healthy 200 ...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 01:27
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

It would make sense to have the seeker equipped variants. Three reasons: 1. More survivable (radar can stop guiding in rounds earlier; and especially survivable if missile gets LOBL mode and operates autonomously, though with reduced range) 2. More lethal (more rounds presumably in air as radar need...
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 01:24
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

The Akash 1S is being called the Akash 2?

The original Akash 2 being renamed the Akash NG.
by Karan M
14 Sep 2019 00:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016
Replies: 2361
Views: 384202

Re: VayuSena Rafale: News and Discussions - 17 Oct 2016

The AFs reliance on Rafale especially makes sense against the PRC since they have access to the Flanker, the Irbis and associated systems and know exactly how the things work. The PAF may not be able to field large transport sized pods but the PLAAF can and attempt to degrade our Su30 upgrades if we...
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 23:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

After this, theres an equally large/larger order for Akash Mk1S, and then QRSAM, Astra, Akash NG, hopefully mass production of AAD/PDV. MRSAM/LRSAM/IA MRSAM orders will mean orders for desi guys in C3I, launchers and missile motors, components.
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 23:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

A limited budget leads to all this. They want to maximize bang for buck. Now you'll say, what?? A limited budget should mean buy more local. Problem is with no dinero, they cant afford to stock up on IFR and other support assets. So the AWACS has to be all singing and dancing. PAF skimps on fighters...
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 20:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

Yes, it is exactly like our Embraer but only that it has longer endurance likely though it probably cant fly as fast/high - turboprop vs biz jet.
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 20:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Kanson, "Brimstone doesnt need mast mounted radar or thermal sight, you just have to point them in the target direction, rest it will do" Any weapon which is launched anyplace needs to be sure it is attacking opponents or real targets. Otherwise, civilians will be taken out or you go broke...
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 19:57
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 1603
Views: 413852

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Great, so this was the follow on 7 squadron order! And we are well in line for the 15 squadron Akash orbat.
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 17:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

They were likely repaired. PAF had roun the clock AWACS deployment on the 27th and earlier.
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 17:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

PAF apparently will have a fleet of 6 Erieye (apart from their 4x ZDK-03). This is a huge force for such a small country.
https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2019/ ... stems.html

PRC has 14 AWACS, soon to be 21.

We have 5.
by Karan M
13 Sep 2019 17:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3007
Views: 570678

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

Now, the real issue is the IAFs limited amount of force multipliers, i.e. tankers. It wants a long endurance platform which can fly as high as possible, and have the widest coverage (azimuth & elevation). But the problem is we can't seem to afford more Phalcons right away. So you do what you mus...

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