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by Thomas_S
27 Jul 2010 00:08
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
Replies: 3938
Views: 1572156

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Dear manishw, when i say "catch up" I mean numbers! They have around 70 subs against some 15 that we do! And all the 15 are most likely be retired by 2025 (these are kilos, foxtrots and type-209)! Our scorpenes will be ready by 2020-22 (estimated) and P-75I say,2025? That in addition to 3...
by Thomas_S
20 May 2010 21:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3918
Views: 1011462

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

The inventiveness is extraordinary. In fact I would argue that there has not been enough, which is why India is where she is. My next argument is that in 10-15 years ground realities will force issues (thankfully) that we were scared to talk about today. India just cannot become a 2nd largest econo...
by Thomas_S
20 May 2010 08:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3918
Views: 1011462

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Then i wonder why we needed T-90. Wasnt just upgrading the T-72 enough since anyways the armour on the ground are sitting ducks ? Well if PAF get the same air superiority and has the same kind of over whelming capability that India has over Pak , then no amount of Arjun or T-90 can do any any thing...
by Thomas_S
20 May 2010 08:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3918
Views: 1011462

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Please explain why threat from TSPA Armor is not a threat per se? And how 500 M1A2 will not change the situations? Because of the over whelming air superiority , systems like Smerch, DRDO MBRL ,Attack Choppers , Howitzer all of the above have capability to wipe out armour on the ground. If you get ...
by Thomas_S
20 May 2010 07:58
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3918
Views: 1011462

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Look at Arjun,how much of it after 34 years is desi.I am all for more Arjuns but the DRDO seems to have been caught sleeping as far as production rates are concerned and we do need a futuristic tank design from 2020 onwards.At given rates,we will have only 500 Arjuns in 10 years of production,simpl...
by Thomas_S
18 May 2010 11:04
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3918
Views: 1011462

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

IA has been asking for updated tanks for ages, it has tons of completely obsolete tanks which need to be removed. Why would IA not love 500 Arjuns today instead of the Vijayanata's it holds in reserve and move the really old T 55/T 72 to reserves? IA is not the bottle neck in the picture, never has...
by Thomas_S
18 May 2010 10:27
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3918
Views: 1011462

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Arjun will be inducted at the rate Avadi can make them, that has ALWAYS been the case since the project was started, much as people would not like to believe it. Avadi can produce at higher rate if IA orders more. Remember that the current production line will break even only if IA orders at least ...
by Thomas_S
13 May 2010 00:23
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

The specs have been realized only now, and as per chaiwalla reports, GoI (not IA) is discussing on the way ahead (note it has time to discuss because Avadi is still making the old order) So it will happen. For sure. Oh you mean the specs has been realized in 2010 or was it in december 2009? Lets al...
by Thomas_S
13 May 2010 00:19
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

4) Let me also remind you a simple thing, FCS+autoloader+Gun+ammo ARE different components. Fine there will be system integration effort, but hey tomorrow Arjun May anyway have a different FCS, then wont there be changes? Well at least we need not have to ask anyones help/permission to modify Arjun...
by Thomas_S
13 May 2010 00:07
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

2) This simple fact may cause you terrible pain, but the entire world including the Uber tank makes, Germans have seen that for tanks a smooth bore is better for APFSDS and HEAT and missiles. Sorry thats how it is, thats not theory, the fact that 9000 Abhrams + 1000 Leos + 10000 Ts are all smooth b...
by Thomas_S
12 May 2010 22:10
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

I think you are saying this because Arjun is obviously the better system and there is no more discussion required on that :) ....i agree with you on this. There was never any doubt that tank to tank Arjun would be a better machine, the specs made sure of that. The only issue had been in translating...
by Thomas_S
12 May 2010 21:51
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

I honestly don't understand where the debate is going anymore b/c the arjun overall is a qualitatively better tank than the T-90 and should therefore form the backbone of our armor. . Because it was never a T 90 vs Arjun discussion ever. I fail to see why something so obvious is being missed. I thi...
by Thomas_S
06 May 2010 23:37
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

If standardization of main gun is a must then why not mate the rifled gun to the T-90? The world has standardized on smooth bores. While HESH may be useful, 99.9% of all Tank doctrines and all tanks in the world dont find it necessary to use rifled. When standardizing, you move towards a existing s...
by Thomas_S
06 May 2010 23:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread
Replies: 3520
Views: 1033747

Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread

Which tank was able to hit more targets in the latest comparative trial? That is irrelevant to the discussion, since we are not talking of the tank here, just the canon (not the FCS, the stabilization etc etc) So you think FCS and Stabilization in Arjun Tank was better than than T-90 although this ...