Bharat Rakshak

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do not shout and do not derail threads with completely random visions of future.
this is the 3rd time I'm saying this, you better get the message for you are only
2 steps away from a perm ban.
Rahul.

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Rahul M, Kartik and shiv wrote above and read them (since quoting the whole message will be lengthy repetition) Yes I have compared apples with oranges. The underlying message has been missed. A $30 million aircraft is meant to cause certain amount of damage to the enemy. The enemy attempts to have...

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Kartik wrote: Its interesting that you're saying that the Tejas Mk1 will serve only 20 years.. Not only just for the LCA or JSF, but for any thing and everything that involves technology. I am afride nothing IN FUTURE will stay, with out being drastically superceded tecnologically, for more than 10...

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the trainer profile would make it look somewhat like gripen. maybe the fuselage can be widened a bit..gripen-ng has two side by side pylons rather than usual single centerline. http://www.serve.com/vhold/hellcats/posts/gripen_ng_front.jpg Two pylons between the undercarriage are rather unusual, but...

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By 2030: :twisted: 2030 IS TWENTY YEARS FROM NOW. 2010 in 1990 was 20 years away. Whatever I guestimated for 2010 in 1990 was way, way below the actual mark seen now. This is true for everything including the military scenario. My guess is, JSF, PAK-FA etc will be outdated and redundant and pilots ...

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chackojoseph wrote: But, if you are asking me that specs wise "is it a point defense" fighter? The my answer is no. Can you please elaborate as to what specs fall short of point defence role for the LCA? Then, please remeber, little modifications for specific roles have always been made t...

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Does this mean that the current "solution" to the high temp problem does not include SC Blades? (Or did we get the tech from somewhere else)? Anyway the press release only talked about DS and did not mention SC. No one is saying any thing specific. But can Kaveri be flight worthy (with or...

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archan wrote:
Telang wrote: Please check your PM inbox.

OK Archan, thank you for the edit.

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Just think, each LCA or any other fighter that we induct needs a pilot and it takes more than 4 years for him to get relieved from the tag of a rooky after taking his first flight. Each fighter also needs trained ground maintenance staff in every field of speciality (engine, airframe, armament etc.)...

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Me thinks the IAF suffers from a battle of Longenwala hangover. Where the IAF bombed out the S**T of the Pakistani tanks. Thats their instance for designing the LCA as a multirole aircraft. If not with its shorter range it would have been better to design the LCA as a true point-defence fighter. Ca...

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Once the full cycle of LCA development is completed (culminating is squadron service and exercising along side the present day / future front-line fighters); design, test, series production cycle will get narrowed down in terms of time for the future combat aircraft models.

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^^^ We did invest in research of SC Blades. We couldn't grow em beyond few inches. The flow of research is not "Research -> No success -> Stop". It is "Research -> No success -> Further research -> No success -> loop to further research untill -> Success". We have made a beginni...

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"State of the art" technologies are not the sole property of a particular nation or race. If Eurojet SCB tech is superior to the Russian tech, there could be some tech in the offing, better than that of Eurojet, that could be developed by those who have brains, financial brawn and the will...

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The PIB press release quotes information given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in written reply to Shri N Balaganga in Rajya Sabha today (Wednesday, August 25, 2010): Directionally Solidified (DS) casting technology and high temperature tip brazing technology for the High Pressure and Low Pressu...

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Arya Sumantra wrote:

Consolidate what we have

I said:

exhaust all available capabilities to upgrade

Do we mean differently????

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The argument by K Mehta The question is not of permission but of priorities, I am suggesting that such a change at this juncture would affect the delivery schedule as well as retrofitting will also affect the uptime of the prototypes This would lead to a situation just identical to what Jagan wrote...

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K Mehta "Because in my opinion Limited series production a/c should have similarity, whereas prototypes can have major changes from one proto to another.......My main point is that the priority right now should be getting LCA inducted and not making further modifications at this point, Let the...

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Folks, we are presuming that the IAF is blind to what is happening . What if the upgradation while production is on is at the behest of IAF itself? Do you people think that hasty induction of 20 fighters with lot of scope for upgradation, to be stationed at the farthest point from the known enemies,...

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K Mehta wrote: In the mean while please try to remain on the topic and tell me, whether a modification of cockpit as has been declared in the LCA would or would not be a major one? "Major modification not permitted and minor modification permitted" is your argument, not mine. I am of the ...

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Well said. Indian planning suffers from the boiling frog syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog You could be right. But I know why of it. What ever the world is doing now has originated in the west and the west has seen all that as an evolution of their society, ethos, economy and cult...

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K Mehta wrote: I had read about the Avro story, sorry for writing fighters there! ShivaS wrote: The doors would fit because each HS748 were custom built (HAL kinda RR). The QC/QA was that good. Now, the Avro story praises HAL quality. Mehta Jee, can you please elaborate your point on bad build qual...

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Purely by accident I came across this post on the same subject as this thread on a totally defense unrelated site which makes for hilarious reading and though slightly dated, but still very relevant. I liked the post very much - full of pun n satire - and thought of sharing the same with other BRFi...

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I have an observation to make on the LCA production so far, Each prototype has been different from the other. And even though "limited series production" has started, each new plane being different from the other essentially makes it a different prototype. I was hoping that this would hav...

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A team is working on Kaveri and it will continue to work till the performance of the engine reaches required specifications. My point is, there is no heavenly dictat that GTRE should not assemble few more teams (with out disturbing the team that is working on Kaveri) by additionally recruiting engin...

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This is OT...

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Let me give scope for some nitpicking and keep the thread busy and active with jump-start reactions. For those who are expecting LCA to be JSF or F22, please understand that the entire Air Force need not be made up of just Su30MKI, there are specific roles for fighters with lesser efficiency. Though...

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Kartik Guru Jee, I mentioned somewhere earlier that, to understand, my posts need to be translated into English. Thank you for doing just that, even I can understand my post now.

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One question going through my mind, hopefully somebody can clarify.... Its regarding the IAF Tejas Trainer and IN Tejas Trainer... What I have read is both IAF Tejas Trainer and IN Tejas Trainer has got multiple points of similarity... My doubt is.... if IAF Tejas Trainer's nose is as much slopped ...

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Victor wrote: by hitching it to an airplane design, we have ensured that we have neither aircraft nor engine because each is pulling the other down. Absolutely true. Now having got bogged down, dont give up, start an airframe around Kaveri with whatever power it has, go for Kaveri-II, and III and IV...

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Gurus, masters and countrymen, pleeeaaaase, time to come out of hibernation (or hiding) and post some thing sensible. Elevate the discussion.

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If you take the fighters that appeared post F-18, most have canards. For European fighters, canards are almost the standard. If (1) we are not following in that direction just because we do not want to ape the west blindly, and want to create our own substitute for it; the logic is in fourth dimensi...

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Telang Cant the experimentation wait till we get the current platform operational? Do we have the luxury of time and money to do experiments at such a scale while the Forces wanted the platform being developed yesterday ? Good question. As for luxury of money, ask Suresh Kalmadi how much we can rea...

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prastor wrote: I think the reason why some experimentally successful technologies don't make it to the production models is the cost-to-benefit factor. Maybe adding TVC and canards to LCA won't give it a justifiable increase in punch for the buck. Prastor, I do not recommend TVC or Canards for LCA, ...

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You make an interesting point. After all the achievements of that X-31 - TV has not been implemented in any western aircraft in these last 20 years other than the Raptor - which is a huge fighter and a program that seems to be going nowhere. After all these years the MKI is the only in service airc...

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What about NASA Rockwell-Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm X-31? its was of same size as LCA. Surprising! 20 years ago this X-31 had canards, TVC, achieved controlled flight at a 70-degree angle of attack, successfully executed a rapid minimum-radius, 180-degree turn using a post-stall maneuver, flying we...

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[quote]Snecma chairman and chief executive officer Philippe Petitcolin told The Hindu: “Yes we first stated a 15-year period to hand over the design technology, but now we have indicated that the technology can be given as fast as the Indians can assimilate it.”[/quote] And, what is the period of &...

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rahulm wrote:A minor nit-pick. We have the PTAE 7 turbo prop which has successfully taken to the skies but yes we could do much more.

I agree, that way I also missed several engines fitted on the aero-models. (BTW, PTAE 7 is turbo jet I believe, there are no props)

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Some gurus here think Kaveri is bogging down LCA and wanted the LCA to go ahead with out Kaveri. I have no qualms. But what disturbs me is a mood here in favour of dumping Kaveri altogether. Whatever the capabilities, or lack of them be, I prefer an airframe around Kaveri, and do what ever it can. T...

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@Shiv Well, TVC making LCA uncontrollable is a bit exaggeration because FBW system could be upgraded to cope with it. Plus TVC is not a priority area in research in India atleast. They are working on it for AMCA but nothing is going on for the LCA. EJ guys doing it is a different issue. I do not kn...

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