Some of the articles (eg Hindu 12:43pm) appear to have been published before his junior official comment (6:03pm).Cain Marko wrote:^ so, that parkram chap was on the spot down to the nuts bolts saying statement will be given by junior mod official not mp...
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- 19 Apr 2016 20:24
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
- Replies: 3972
- Views: 632995
Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
- 17 Apr 2016 11:22
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
- Replies: 3972
- Views: 632995
Re: IAF Rafale News and Discussions - 26 May 2015
Stuff I stumbled upon on other forums: long day.. just reached home.. but straight to the PC to type good news... Deal is done.. final papers exchanged.. its officially 36 flyaway 90 make in India tranche 1 Final numbers would be 300 Rafales with 100+ Rafale Ms The original 36+18 follow on.. The fol...
- 12 May 2014 17:30
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 706153
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
F-35 may turn out to be a winner for the USAF, but does going for -ANY- major new import (with associated limitations on ToT) make sense for India? The IAF's current mix is potent, and even if several aging airframes are retired in due course, would continuous evolution and further intake of the Su-...
- 30 Mar 2014 13:54
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 706153
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
If half the Sukhoi fleet is sitting on the ground, and a Sukhoi costs half as much as a Rafale, wouldn't the Rafale fleet need at least 100% availability to be cost competitive with the Sukhois? #forgiveme
- 21 Jan 2014 17:20
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 706153
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
^Doesn't make sense. Per the Ajai Shukla article, MoD seems to be in favor of FGFA, IAF is not. Or do you mean the US is arm-twisting the IAF? I just don't see that happening, given lack of leverage.
- 21 Jan 2014 15:51
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
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- Views: 706153
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
I don't get why IAF would be willing to undermine the FGFA arrangement in favor of the Rafale for what appear to be less than convincing reasons. Is the numbers situation really that dire? Thoughts? http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/russia-can-t-deliver-on-fifth-generation-figh...
- 22 Oct 2013 22:29
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
- Replies: 3237
- Views: 937732
Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
Ouch! As in excessively polite, or have I missed an important aspect of the issue? Always eager to learn!Aditya G wrote:It is like reading an entry from a school essay competition. All correct and perfect but just plain boring $hitAustin wrote:Time to halt our weapons binge
- 03 May 2013 19:55
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India-China War 2013 - Trigger: Incursion into India
- Replies: 671
- Views: 92530
Re: India-China War 2013 - Trigger: Incursion into India
Xi's War Drums - foreignpolicy.com
China's new leader is using the military to consolidate his power. But has he unleashed forces beyond his control?
- 03 May 2013 03:48
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India-China War 2013 - Trigger: Incursion into India
- Replies: 671
- Views: 92530
Re: India-China War 2013 - Trigger: Incursion into India
Hello, I have a blog with TOI. I was looking to expand the discussion in the media to look at a broader spectrum of possible responses, and came up with this satire. It is along the lines of whats going on in the South China Sea - neither conventional nor quite covert, but sort of like a bad-humored...
- 03 Feb 2012 02:47
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 706153
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
French Rafale UAE deal back on-report - Reuters Speaking after the India announcement, French Defence Minister Gerard Longuet hinted there could be more deals ahead. "Good news are like worries, they fly in squadrons," he said. "That (deal) is the start of a squadron of good news.&qu...
- 02 Feb 2012 22:12
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 706153
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
Art of deal-making - Bharat Karnad A senior official of an US aerospace major castigate(d) both the US government for imposing a ceiling on the level of technologies that could be sold to India, and the Indian government for quietly accepting these limits instead of forcefully using the “leverage” ...
- 16 Nov 2011 20:49
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
MMS is an American nationalist. His 'pacifism' is relevant only when he wants India to not resist American aggression in its neighhbourhood. IOW, his pacifism is directed towards pakistan because this helps USA. And his desire to arm India (against China) is also in line with American policy to mak...
- 16 Nov 2011 11:26
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
This contradicts his pacifist proclivity. If true, it would be very interesting to know as to what exactly prompted this change of heart.asprinzl wrote:MMS is said to be deadly serious about matching Chinese power.
- 12 Nov 2011 22:09
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
True. But when it comes to this tender, is the apparent lack of a larger strategy deceit, or actuality? Predetermined procedural mechanics justify our chosen course of action; current geopolitics argue against it. The strategy could be to bypass criticism/delays from internal enemies on the payroll...
- 12 Nov 2011 10:00
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
^Very unfortunate, for war is but an extension of policy by other means. But sir, war also means subterfuge and deception. So even if there is favouritism no one is going to admit it up front.No? True. But when it comes to this tender, is the apparent lack of a larger strategy deceit, or actuality?...
- 12 Nov 2011 04:38
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
^Very unfortunate, for war is but an extension of policy by other means.
- 09 Nov 2011 08:51
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Not to mention that I believe that at most in 5 years, but probably much, much, sooner, the Europeans (all of them) will start selling arms to China... If the F35 is as good as its specs suggest it to be, it makes infinitely more sense to spend $20 Billion on it. Yes! I said the same earlier in the...
- 09 Nov 2011 08:28
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Have you been following the news? The bids could be around twice that figure.Singha wrote:one q: can khan offer CTOL JSF @ $80 mil unit price for delivery starting 2015?
I dont think they can meet either the price or delivery of the two e-canards.
- 07 Nov 2011 23:06
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
According to this http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3918&Itemid=174 The MMRCA cost has ballooned to $20 bn which works out to some ~$175MM per plane? Wow. I assumed the $20b figure was for 200 planes. So it could be 350-400 (@$50-60m) Gripens vs 126 R...
- 07 Nov 2011 08:02
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
All the talk about the Rafale only being marginally cheaper is irrelevant as it still makes it L1 ...The French are smart enough to understand that they don't have to give us unbelievable prices for the Rafale, just prices better than the British and Germans gave us for the Typhoon. How are the Fre...
- 07 Nov 2011 05:23
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
That there is very little specificity in the news about the per unit cost of the two planes is alarming. As has been pointed out earlier, Dassault seems to have turned in a much higher than anticipated bid that only marginally undercuts the EF. Collusion/cartelization, if suspected, must be investig...
- 05 Nov 2011 00:44
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
The next month should bring greater clarity on the economic crisis in Europe, and on China's role in the same. This further delay could thus be desirable.
- 04 Nov 2011 20:45
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
So since detailed calculations seem to be required, does this mean the two bids are within 15% of each other? That seems surprising given that the price one sees for the Rafale is usually much lower than EF.
- 03 Nov 2011 11:12
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
@ sohels E. Ohh please..... The chinese do not have money lying around to lift the Euro out of its debt-hole. And don’t tell me that China has this Himalayan mountain of reserves that it will employ to save the world or buy out Europe. It is not as if China has this trillion dollar reserve in fixed...
- 03 Nov 2011 09:56
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
There are other things with India which special interest groups inside US want to get in These special interest group want to create a psy ops with the'certain' (poorer) population of India about US power and omni presence. This will give advantage to several other groups who want to penetrate Indi...
- 03 Nov 2011 09:29
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
It is about geo politics. Speaking of geopolitics: Europe's High Price for China's Friendship An end to a 22-year-old European embargo on arms sales to China, in place since the Tiananmen bloodshed of 1989, might seem like a more distant possibility. But Europe's once strident criticism of China's ...
- 03 Nov 2011 05:30
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Here's the actual U.S. Department of Defense report: Report to Congress on U.S.-India Security Cooperation Our efforts over the past ten years have focused on relationship-building and establishing the foundation for a long-term partnership. The strong ties between our two militaries reflect this. T...
- 30 Oct 2011 01:15
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
RAF Typhoon leads the race to secure £7 billion arms deal The "flawless" performance of the Eurofighter Typhoon in the Libyan war has catapulted the aircraft ahead of its main rival to win one of the most lucrative of defence deals in recent times. ... The Typhoon was already leading the ...
- 18 Aug 2011 13:19
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Well, unless they (France or the EF group) eat the development cost in the MMRCA and they throw in the 'ToT' and the offset, you're looking at $100MM+ per Rafale or EF. For 189 (126+63 options), you're talking ~$20 billion. You can be sure that when this number hits the media, that LM and Boeing ar...
- 16 Aug 2011 16:10
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
- Replies: 3977
- Views: 862663
Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
^Yes, here are the relevant charts: Euro vs Swiss franc: http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-chf.en.html Euro vs Indian rupee: http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-inr.en.html If you compare the trends over the last year, the Euro has fallen b...
- 16 Aug 2011 01:29
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Other day I passed comments on the vulneribility of Euro's and leverage India can get. Then subsequently recd a release from BNP Paribas ( BNP Paribas defends eurozone and France on ratings ). The impression is that Erozone is safe. I do not want to dispute that. However, the place is not as strong...
- 15 Aug 2011 19:03
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
At this stage, the US has been downgraded to AA+ with negative outlook (it means it can be downgraded again in the months to come), France and Germany are still AAA with positive outlook (it means they will not be downgraded in the year to come) and UK is AAA with negative outlook. The next country...
- 14 Aug 2011 20:38
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
^Define 'better' - what would be the best case scenario regarding the outcome of this tender, in your opinion?Cosmo_R wrote:Hope it works out better.
- 12 Aug 2011 16:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Buying more Russian planes cannot be the answer - diversification is one of the primary objectives of this tender. If above all else, we really needed these jets quickly and affordably, the Super Hornet would have been the one to go for. But since we did not do so, I guess the urgency is perhaps exa...
- 06 Aug 2011 21:25
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
As early as March 4, 2011, with the situation in Libya deteriorating, French military aircraft began to carry out surveillance and electronic warfare missions over the Mediterranean, alongside those of the US and UK . It is well known that the french Rafales were the first fighters flying over Liby...
- 06 Aug 2011 11:14
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
If you take the high-end figure, assuming Euro 1 bn for support/training/infra, it is closer to US$156 mn/plane (Euro 7 bn for 63 planes)! That deal, if signed, will ensure smooth sailing through our benchmarking process? But given that the flyaway cost of the super hornet is ~$55 mil, or around $8...
- 04 Aug 2011 20:06
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
^Yes, outdated info indeed I'm afraid. The question of JSF has already been explored by the IAF and the answer is no! But there's been no effort to explain why this is so, or to get a better deal: “ We have already entered into a partnership with Russia in developing our own fifth generation fighter...
- 04 Aug 2011 17:44
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
As stated several times by Indian officials, IAF will not go for F-35 and the choice is clearly between Rafale and Typhoon. JSF is in big troubles for the moment and we don't know much about its real capabilities. Even the brits don't have acces to ToT with the F-35, it would be the less relevant c...
- 04 Aug 2011 12:27
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
^ I'd like to read about the issues that you mention. I've read Carlo Kopp's analysis, but can you please post some other links? Incidentally, he puts the Rafale and Typhoon in the same 'low capability' category as the JSF: http://www.ausairpower.net/F-22A-Size-Comparison-4.png And relax guys, we al...
- 04 Aug 2011 10:53
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- Topic: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Part 2
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Re: India selects Typhoon & Rafale for MMRCA shortlist - Par
Well why dont they recognize and address our concern and give us operational autonomy as others do , after all the Europeans would be as concerned about technology proliferation as US does but dont bind us to specific or binding agreements ? Fair no ? Yes, fair. And it seems to me that they're begi...