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- 13 Dec 2013 03:54
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 551578
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
Your comment about the Army's stance on indigenization assumes that the Army's primary goal should be pushing for locally produced products. That may be the logic by some on this forum but the Army is acting like a typical consumer, which is what they should be doing. The Army wants the best produc...
- 12 Dec 2013 02:02
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 551578
Re: Armoured Vehicles Discussion Thread - Jan 12, 2012
It seems you feel pretty strongly about this so it will be hard to argue with you. Your facts may be valid but the fact remains that the Army's stance on indigenization is well known among the private players too which is why the reluctance. A half assed effort to involve the private players into a...
- 29 Nov 2013 21:52
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
- Replies: 3957
- Views: 535331
Re: LCA News and Discussions, 22-Oct-2013
Indranil Roy: My post is not specifically for you. So it is OK if you do not want to reply. I hope this Board wants to get opinion of many people. 1. My contention is IAF (and also IA) do not know what they want. Their 'needs' are constantly manipulated by political and external factors. I exhort a...
- 28 Nov 2013 20:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Clearly something strange is going on within the Chinese leadership. Or at least I hope so, because if this is how China behaves under coherent and unified leadership, there's a problem on everybody's hands. The Panda's new leaders are flexing their muscles, showing their own they are tough. Sign o...
- 28 Nov 2013 20:51
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Time for us to step up and offer the Japanese incentives to move more manufacturing to India. That will kick the Panda in the pants in more than one way. This is going to be near impossible. Our companies can't find enough skilled manpower, where will the Japanese companies get welders, fitters, CN...
- 28 Nov 2013 02:51
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
China Explains Handling of B-52 Flight as Tensions Escalate At a briefing in Beijing, the Foreign Ministry said the quiet reaction to what was a clear test by the United States of the new zone was “in accordance” with the rules announced by the Chinese Defense Ministry. China’s response to foreign ...
- 28 Nov 2013 02:38
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Time for us to step up and offer the Japanese incentives to move more manufacturing to India. That will kick the Panda in the pants in more than one way. ^ Thank you for saying this. Unfortunately our leaders are too busy with the polls to pay attention to such opportunities. Good point. Sad but tr...
- 27 Nov 2013 22:21
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
China wants Japan to test a nuke. They also want to force Japan to spend more on its military so its economy slides further down hill. Then there will be one less major buyer of US treasury debt. Japan however is on thin ice. They need to export to China however China does not need them as much. It...
- 25 Nov 2013 21:31
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
The Chinese throttle anything they do. They have a very flexible game plan that changes according to the situation. The latest developments are a clear sign that something has happened in the recent past that has strengthened the Chinese and weakened the rest - certainly the Japanese. IF lives have...
- 09 Nov 2013 01:18
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
- Replies: 349
- Views: 40088
Re: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
One of the major concerns WRT the Rafale has been the financial health of Dassault, which promted the GoI to seek " French Sovereign Guarantee To Fulfill MMRCA Deal ". Well, now comes news of the potential of the guarantor needing a guarantor. In Under Strain, France Examines Its Safety N...
- 06 Nov 2013 22:15
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
- Replies: 349
- Views: 40088
Re: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
If we are talking of out of the box solutions, why not go on the offensive? For the money we are paying for the Rafale deal($20b+) we can probably buy 10-20,000 cruise missiles(like the Nirbhay) preferably with sufficient range to reach most parts of china proper. An arsenal like this have great de...
- 05 Nov 2013 22:58
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
- Replies: 349
- Views: 40088
Re: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
I am thinking of leasing next generation fighters like F35s and 22s. That will create an opening for NATO standard platforms for desh, and with a vision that India in the future has to (actually poised) to integrate both NATO and non-NATO platforms. This is an expertise area, where we have actually...
- 31 Oct 2013 03:31
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
- Replies: 349
- Views: 40088
Re: Alternatives to MMRCA - News & Discussion
I am not even going into world class logistics support because that is subjective to the whims of a government which has never been sensitive to our concerns and interests , enough said. To be blunt, the MRCA is not needed to take on Pakistan. Where it would be required would be China. Do you trust...
- 27 Sep 2013 21:57
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
- Replies: 3969
- Views: 490274
Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
So because he is a former Army Chief, his Army heritage no longer matters? He is hounded in this manner, plus the fact that multiple reports note that IA people have been made to suffer because of the "peace process" business for trying to do whats right during the beheading stuff? Simila...
- 20 Sep 2013 03:04
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
les rosbif is what the french call the english. its a corruption of roast beef, which the english are fond of, but the comment is more about having red faces from over eating. the english ofcourse call the french - the frogs The English are called rosbif by the French because when they are out in t...
- 19 Sep 2013 04:07
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 4257
- Views: 522491
Re: LCA News and Discussions
Don't judge initial numbers as equal to the final orders. IAF started ordering more Jaguars, more Sukhois once they were available and the funding was there. There is a good chance that once the LCA proves itself, more will be ordered. Two reasons why that may not happen:- 1) At the time the IAF ga...
- 16 Sep 2013 22:22
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
- Replies: 3969
- Views: 490274
Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
Preparing for a two-front war By: Ajai Shukla Headline could also read " Increasing the Profitability of US Military Industrial Complex " . I can bet that China will not be defeated on the strength of imported arms i.e if they decide to prolong the conflict.[/quote] Seriously doubt any co...
- 05 Sep 2013 03:10
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 655833
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
Cheaper rupee means our products are cheaper to foreign customers. See where this is going? Turns out India needs to import so it can export. Outside of IT, there is not much export from India - this is based on what I just heard on NPR and an article (somewhere) in the past day or two. Good point ...
- 04 Sep 2013 21:44
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 655833
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
Party time over ...The rupee devaluation timing could not have been better. Common sense seems to be gaining ground now. Wonder what will our Imported Air Force (aka IAF) band leaders will be flashing now :) Voting 100% to kill Rafale and buy 3x LCA MK-I,II,III...Let's for starters have 1. Another ...
- 28 Aug 2013 22:47
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
amreeki bhai probably couldnt cope with / understand head nodding mannerisms of sdre's and lungi dance... ^ :rotfl: +1 Also it could be cultural. This officer probably came in with the mindset that he was going to show the inexperienced natives how things are done. And was probably upset no one ask...
- 27 Aug 2013 22:39
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 4257
- Views: 522491
Re: LCA News and Discussions
Marten you are right. It is appalling how much some folks kiss foreign maal and go to great lengths to prove Indian is worse (i.e. passing off ferry range as combat radius). Only later we find out that the nice brochure specs did not actually work in our conditions and the foreign vendor would char...
- 24 Aug 2013 03:17
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: LCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 4257
- Views: 522491
Re: LCA News and Discussions
stuff It is difficult to predict the future accurately, even more so the distant future. To say that if one project fails it is flat impossible for India to ever develop a fighter is absurd. Yes, on this issue I'm very rational. Not as absurd as you may think. It's happened before. Heard about Cana...
- 20 Aug 2013 03:01
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
- Replies: 6593
- Views: 1195711
Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Forgive my lack of imagination, but I just can't think of a scenario where either China or India will be suckered into a war that'll benefit...well, anyone but China and India. All I can foresee is maybe one of those border standoffs escalate into a short regional war that'll see maybe a few kilome...
- 10 Aug 2013 04:48
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1187908
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Some dots (data points) to connect here. As always, I proffer the disclaimer that data points can be interlinked in any number of ways, potentially yielding a great diversity of patterns; my own preferred algorithm for connecting them, and the particular pattern generated, reflect the limitations o...
- 10 Aug 2013 02:33
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1187908
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
^Wow talk about simplistic and naive. Also, your loyalties are painfully obvious, so please spare us nonsense. UNSC permanent seat indeed :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You attack your own, instead of talking about the pakis. YOUR loyalties are being questioned now. Are you one of those Pukis masq...
- 10 Aug 2013 02:24
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1187908
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
^^ One the contrary, people clamouring for a strong response haven't been paying enough attention to events next door. No one would be happier about a war or war-like situation than the Pakistani army. At least they'd have a fight they can understand and an enemy that they can rally their disintegr...
- 09 Aug 2013 21:48
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1187908
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
foreign policy wrt pakistan is decided in the PMO.. but one must remember that AKA is no 2 in the UPA pecking order right now..and a possible PM candidate in case UPA 3 comes to power. In that case, since AKA was a willing accomplice, when UPA3 comes to power and he becomes the PM, the first people...
- 08 Aug 2013 02:56
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
- Replies: 4479
- Views: 1187908
Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations
Any way [A.K. Antony] will go down next to Krishna Menon as one of the worst Defence Ministers. Ramana, one cannot deal decisively with the cat's paw unless one is prepared to deal with the cat. I think A.K. Antony is doing a decent job, given the realities he is forced to deal with. Under him, Ind...
- 26 Jul 2013 02:01
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
The whole point of having a carrier fleet - even in the role of fleet AD would be to operate beyond the range of land based aviation isn't it ? At that point, the size of the individual carriers + their associated component merely reflects the ambition to operate farther from own shores. If having ...
- 26 Jul 2013 01:32
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There is a nation that went with the small carrier strategy...currently their proudest accomplishments revolve around a royal offspring. Structure reveals strategy. If ours is to be a 2nd rate ancillary power, so be it. :) That brings up a very good question. What is the strategy f...
- 25 Jul 2013 21:58
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
See your point. But the contradiction only comes with trying to project power in certain neighborhoods. You see this with the US, and their formidable carrier groups as well. They can take them anywhere in the world. But you don't see them taking their carriers too close to Russia & China . The...
- 23 Jul 2013 21:44
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
The Panda's carriers don't stand a chance in the Indian Ocean. Just like our carriers won't manage in their neighborhood. The carriers are a useful tool if used correctly in the correct conditions. They are good for projecting power. And a strong offence is a good defence. Isn't there a contradicti...
- 23 Jul 2013 01:42
- Forum: Military Issues Archive
- Topic: Indian Naval Discussion
- Replies: 5409
- Views: 643527
Re: Indian Naval Discussion
A significant amount of PRC's trade is with North America. That is what we have to disrupt. A significant amount of our Oil and Gas comes from the Russian Far East shipped in tankers. That will have to be protected. Further we will have to degrade PLAN and PLAAF's fighting ability before they come ...
- 10 Jul 2013 22:29
- Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
- Topic: Indian Army History Thread
- Replies: 1018
- Views: 442870
Re: Indian Army History Thread
^^ '1965 War Changed Face of the Subcontinent' Excellent articles, thank you. One could also argue that the impact of the 1962 war with the Pandas, influenced the Indian Army's performance in 1965. The war games the US played assumed a few things as a result of events from the 1962 war, they didnt p...
- 29 Jun 2013 02:27
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 655833
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
see.. didn't IAF say recently, that they would opt for more MKI (the upgraded version) if Rafale deal fails? If the Rafale deal fails, they should scrap the competition and buy MIG 35s. Would make more sense than more MKIs. IMO this deal is very very long in the making, so both sides are motivated ...
- 29 Jun 2013 01:38
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions
- Replies: 5222
- Views: 655833
Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!
The Rafale and the Typhoon beat the Su-30MKI. [/quote] No, you haven't proven anything of the sort. Your inability to support your claims with anything more than abuse also speaks volumes. [/quote] The Rafale and the Typhoon did beat the Su-30MKI. I have provided factual data from several highly-cre...
- 26 Jun 2013 23:12
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
- Replies: 4001
- Views: 997577
Re: PAK-FA and FGFA Thread
i think kshirin is trying to debate a different point - i.e. how comes india fails to really adopt TOT whereas china seems to learn and build on its learnings kshirin - i think that is a complex topic - no OEM (including Russians) will ever part with core technology - why would they? indian organis...
- 31 May 2013 03:21
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
- Replies: 3969
- Views: 490274
Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
^^^ Since Gandhi and Nehru time, Congress has been hostile to the armed forces. It considers the military as an unnecessary evil and thinks India will get better served by non violence on the borders. You know this from first hand experience? I'm guessing not. Keep the political talk out of a defen...
- 31 May 2013 03:07
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
- Replies: 3969
- Views: 490274
Re: Indian Army: News and Discussions 15 Apr 2012
Only thing changed between 1958 and 2013 is that, we had guts (someone would say stupidity) to employ "Forward Policy" then and now we have wisdom (or fear) to remain calm. Our PM is in Tokyo, pitching (begging) Japanese to forge security ties. Its amazing to see, a nation of 1.24 billion...
- 30 May 2013 04:06
- Forum: Trash Can Archive
- Topic: Indian Military Aviation- Jan 10 2012
- Replies: 4215
- Views: 498851
Re: Indian Military Aviation- Jan 10 2012
HAL can make DHRUV which is by far more complex than a basic trainer. And the numbers in service tell the full story about their supply chain, machinery and all other capability been questioned. Seeing is believing and better than talk for sure! The point is whether HAL has state of the art product...