Bharat Rakshak

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^ some basic calc... forgot my projectile math learned in 11th grade :(( Didn't include the curve but treated the projectile path as a triangle... I don't blame you. :) I had to dust off my Engineering Dynamics book and read up a bit. Unfortunately, the book does not deal with self-propelled projec...

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Bulava missile took some where around 30 minutes or more to cover a range of 8000+ km. It reached an apogee of around 1000 km. I am still fixated on Range vs. Time here. Bulava took 30 minutes to cover 8000 Km with an apogee of 1000 Km as compared to our A4 that took 20 minutes to cover 3000 Km wit...

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3000 Kms in 20 minutes!
Can any of the well-informed BRFites throw some light on the average delivery time for major missile systems (like Minuteman) around the world?
I am talking in terms of Range Vs. Time

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An altitude of 880 Kms for a 3000 Km range? I can see a 5000 Km range by merely altering the launch. Chicom must be changing its diapers right now. By the way, I worked with a 3-axis Inertial Measurement System (basically the usual acc+mag+opt package) paired with a differential GPS unit to increase...

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F-22 was capped because it was a failure. I don't care what people say about it's unknown and unverifiable state-of-the-art features. All I know is that a plane costing $350 Million a pop is never going to work in real wars where the USAF is facing even a half-decent enemy air force/defense. Also, i...

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hnair wrote:As for JSF, I dont think the plane is designed to be any less maneuverable than the Shakeela-ish shape the recent blocks of F16 took on.

You made me spill my coffee Nair ji

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What are you guys saying???
Birds don't crash the JSF... the JSF crashes birds! LOL.

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LOL, I was wondering how long it would take you to find that quote from the notorious F-35 hater Kopp to backup your story :rotfl: Now here's your challenge: find a reputable source that says the same thing. Karlo Kopp is as biased against the JSF program as you are for it. So, how is that bad? Kar...

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You can't compare its stealth characteristics with the PAKFA and J-20. But I don't except either of those to be in service for a 'long time' yet. It is amusing that you said that! The JSF has an expected IOC of 2018, but given the way the program had been managed over the past 5 years, I think a 20...

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GeorgeWelch, have some Kool Aid and relax. Your misplaced rants over F-18 or F-35 on a Rafale/EF thread will not make any difference out where it matters. Stop wasting your time and our time. 1. F-35 was not a competitor in the MMRCA tender, and hence it is LM's fault and not IAFs. 2. A buyer is not...

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Check this blog discussion out on Col. Ajai Shukla's blog (BROADSWORD) on his relentless crusade against the MMRCA and for the JSF program. http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8726844009873922462&postID=7468797475848058112 If you scroll down to Col. Shukla's response on "1 November 2011...

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It is amusing to see people pitching the F-35 for IAF while: 1. The IOC is slated for 2018, and FOC slated for around 2022 or later. 2. Unit cost, as of 2011, is estimated between $110 Million and $150 Million (push it to $200 Million by FOC). 3. It can carry only a tonne of payload internally (Comp...

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its a close match as you can see if every sinew is used and we'd still have 125 Bisons as the 2nd line of defence and to cover the TSP front somewhat. But, IAF is preparing for a 2.5 front war (Pak, China, Internal) and hence a close match with China leaves us short on the other front. If anything,...

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Pogula, the PAF has around 20 JF-17 not 60 at present and the uptime of the Mirage3 fleet is quite weak...but those are minor nits. what I find surprising is you have left out the huge number of Jag+Mig27 in our account. sure they are not a2a capable but can strike quite hard when deployed in enoug...

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Pogula, the PAF has around 20 JF-17 not 60 at present and the uptime of the Mirage3 fleet is quite weak...but those are minor nits. what I find surprising is you have left out the huge number of Jag+Mig27 in our account. sure they are not a2a capable but can strike quite hard when deployed in enoug...

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The numbers below are estimations and based on open source (online) information (edited with corrections from Rahul & Singha). I have ignored the 3rd Gen interceptors across all 3 airforces (including MiG 21 variants that will be phased out in the near future). But, I uploaded this to show some ...

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shiv wrote: And the nation would have done a Bofors on those who took the decision.

Hahaha... SO true

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Till date none of the posters who have argued against F-35 have ever refuted some plain facts 1) F-35 is more than a match for any of the Chinese fighters in inventory, excluding J-20. 2) F-35 is more than capable of handling most of the Chinese air defense systems. The same cannot be said of EFT o...

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It is a waste of time and forum space discussing the F35 in the MMRCA context. The same goes for "alternatives" to the MMRCA tender. The purchase will go through for sure and the country is well past the "Point Of No Return." And people who feel India is spending way too much on ...

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http://tribune.com.pk/story/287590/india-examines-rival-bids-for-huge-war-plane-deal/ According to this article, which was posted just 20 minutes ago, the bids have been opened and meeting concluded. The final winner will not be disclosed for a few more weeks, until the bids (especially TOT) are ex...

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Is it mentioned anywhere by the pentagon or any other party involved that this offer has anything to do with the MMRCA? According to an NDTV article, it did. "After losing out in the MMRCA race, the Americans openly expressed their displeasure and are now pitching their new F-35 Joint Strike F...

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Pratyush wrote:Its 5:30 PM by my watch.

No reports on any of the news channels

3 more minutes left, by my watch... And again, considering the meeting is at an MoD office, add another 20 minutes for sussu breaks before the press release... LOL

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You said none had been delivered, which is false. They are not operational because squadrons haven't been built-up and testing hasn't been completed, but they are functional right now. They could go into combat and shoot their guns and fire their missiles right now. Of course the USAF isn't ready t...

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SH total: less than $3.2 billion M2K total: more than $3.3 billion not only would it be cheaper, the planes themselves would be 25 years newer and that doesn't even begin to look at the capabilities difference Forget hypothetical scenarios George, and focus on what is at hand now. SH is not part of...

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AFAIK, electric motors are the most efficient option for locomotives right now. And, using a variation of Kaveri in a tweaked and controlled environment of electricity generation for the Railway Electrical Grid is far more practical and effective for Indian Railways, IMHO, as opposed to using them t...

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So my guess is that first comabt ready LCA Mark2 squadron will come into being in 2010. You mean 2020. By the way, that is not bad at all if only they stick to the time-line this time. I am more worried about them keeping up with the AMCA program in parallel with so little help from the private ind...

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@ RahulM... Thanks for that correction. Will remember that from here on 8) Any thoughts on what air superiority aspects against J20/Su30MK? very much a plausible aspect to consider for MMRCA. The J-20 is a huge bird. I really doubt its effectiveness in air-to-air combat with any of the MMRCA contend...

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pNUlc4Ek19s Looks like the French are desperate to find buyers for the Rafale. This video is a clear sign of 2 things... 1. France will sell anything to anyone with money (China surely has a lot of that) 2. France's alliance is not something you want to bet on in times of geo-political unrest (US m...

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The odd juxtaposition to this of course is that many of the Rakshaks either live or work in the United States or Canada and I assume make good and respectable livings there (myself included); yet each of them bad mouth the US every chance they get. Interesting to say the least. Living in America do...

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To buy from US is as good as selling the sovereignty of India. Those guys know how to squeeze and our dhoti-netas may lose everything. Congress and Christian Antony are hell bent to please USA..... God Save India [OT] Wow! As a fellow Indian Christian, I find that comment very offensive. Most India...

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[OT] Would you like a middle aged moderately good looking woman with a lot of make up and coming up with um good recos (but have to take it at face value) or a much younger good looking girl with a lot of potential and the willingness to learn ? :mrgreen: If you ask me i would rather go for the latt...

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It is kinda annoying to see this continuous stream of negative comparisons between US and Indian defense industries and their capabilities. America is the birth place of flight... starting a century ago. We got our independence hardly 64 years ago. And now, they have a mere 15 to 20 years lead over ...

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@SidGupta You do have a point with the argument of unneeded redundancy of selecting a Gripen NG. But, 'A2A' role is for Su30MKIs anyway. So, maybe this means the Rafale or F/A-18SH will be selected for 'A2G' and 'Su30MKI-complement-in-A2A' roles. Given the engine choice for Tejas MK2, like I said be...

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@ Pratyush

This time the FMBT will be stumped by an American tank, not Russian. Keep watching!

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I am a huge fan of the Eurofighter Typhoon, and also wanted the EJ200 (with possible thrust vectoring) to win the Tejas MK2 engine bid. But, the developments over the past one year strongly suggest an inclination of either IAF or MoD to get the Gripen NG as our MMRCA fighter. 1. The competition itse...

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It is amusing to hear some people claim that sooner or later India will sign the CISMOA. Well, do not forget that the decision makers are in Delhi, and not Islamabad. In Delhi, the democratically elected government is vulnerable to a very aggressive opposition over matters pertaining to national sov...

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why is our armed forces so stringent with local products when that is a non-issue for the imported equipment?? and even when they prove themselves they are short shrifted?? and why does IA support a tank which is obsolete by design and unsuited for indian climate support it when the russians themse...

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For those who ask, well, how does the Gripen C /D have no "issues" with a lesser powered engine while the LCA seems to have "issues". Well, that assumes that the SwAF requirements are the same as the IAF ASR ? It is highly probable that the IAF ASRs are much tougher than the Swe...

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the final budget includes the original 500 Cr. Rahul, I know the final amount includes the initial funds too, but as Rs. 500 crores only, and not re-evaluated to the actual market value of about Rs. 3,700 crores before adding it to the final "figure". The current "figure" being ...

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You mean ADA. 1. You should start with comparisons with other programs. 2. Funding a new program with peanuts, incomplete/evolving ASRs, and optimistic program managers means there will be escalation. Which a/c program doesn't have cost escalations? If you want to build a house, can you start with ...

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