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by rajanb
22 Jun 2016 21:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: 100% FDI in defence - what are we likely to see?
Replies: 75
Views: 12297

Re: 100% FDI in defence - what are we likely to see?

100% in Defense FDI. OMG. A convoluted decsion belonging in the real of fiscal prudence. The same people who screamed against it during their days in oposition? But this is not about that. Not about politics. We will get bugger all. Yes! They will make bits and parts of what they need. Not the tech....
by rajanb
06 Jun 2016 09:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pinaka - Story
Replies: 37
Views: 11147

Re: Pinaka - Story

Jamwalji. Welcome back. From an old fan of yours.

Has all the makings of a pot boiler.

Yeh dil Maangey more! :D
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 21:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

First there is the objective which leads to strategy which leads to tactics. Objective is what you want to achieve Strategy means do something to achieve objective by a certain time Tactics is how you accomplish the strategy . So praising tactics and not the strategy shows either a gullible mind or...
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 20:07
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

With respect to what the government is doing, please also consider the gentle remark of Shri Manohar Parrikar about 'hurting those who hurt us...' Delivered in a pretty nonchalant and matter of fact manner. No chest thumping, no shouting. Appropriate message delivered by person in charge of deliver...
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 19:54
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Dr Arvind Virmani ‏@dravirmani Jan 7 A nation which expects its PM/RM/HM/EAM to deal with 6 terrorists needs to introspect seriously abt its concept of responsibilities/rights. 82 retweets 54 likes The Government which has this problem, needs to think, very seriously, on their ability to manage. Th...
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 19:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

IBNlive New Delhi: Glaring lapses have come to the fore in the probe in the Pathankot Air Force base terror attack. On the one hand there was almost no effective security at the IAF base, said sources, adding that illegal entry was being allowed inside Airbase for as little as Rs 50. According to t...
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 18:55
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

In the meantime - invaluable advice from the old fox Pervez Musharraf : India should not over-react to the Pathankot attack: http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/india-should-not-overreact-to-pathankot-attack-musharraf/ar-CCq6y3?ocid=spartanntp Now that will definitely be convenient for the Pak Army...
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 18:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

ramana wrote:That Arab poet was right about the "Six blind men of Hindoostan"!

We argue with limited facts and claim our realization is universal.
Which, pray, was the Arab poet?
by rajanb
12 Jan 2016 13:12
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

A Tactical Success, Pity About the Strategy “Tactics is about how the NSG and other counter-terror units dealt with the situation on the ground in Pathankot. Tactically, the operation was a reasonable success with the neutralisation of terrorists who had entered the air base. No harm came to the as...
by rajanb
11 Jan 2016 20:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 4035
Views: 684626

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

SSridhar wrote:Guys, back to Tejas. No more Turkish tactics etc.
YES!
by rajanb
11 Jan 2016 20:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

After reading through now I am convinced and stand corrected. It is great victory for India against TSP. I hope GOI issues a first day cover and a stamp in honor of this victory. Silly of me no to think through and see the light. Thanks for education to all. Apologies for not getting it as usual. J...
by rajanb
11 Jan 2016 19:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Amber G. wrote:High level meeting in Pak after NaMo's call..
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This is Pollywood at its prime. ( Associate that word with Hollywood and Bollywood)
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 22:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions
Replies: 4035
Views: 684626

Re: LCA Tejas: News and Discussions

shiv wrote:
uddu wrote:Anyone here going to Bahrain for the Air show? Will need Videos, and lots of them of Tejas. :)
And please keep a steady hand while videoing the Tejas
Won't the Bahrain guys be recording everything?
Don't we have a budget for this? being do PR enabled as we are?
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 22:45
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

I jump too R Saab is asking r guru for Tolerence of contrarian opinion. Spinning everything is like JLN saying the best thing to do is send sepoys with canvas shoes to Akaichin and enfield .303 guns of Afghan wars. It is better to be honest and self critical at times of crisis rather than showing u...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 22:28
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Dear Mr. Ramana, You have neither extended the courtesy of: a) Replying to my post except to thank me for my best wishes for BR. OR b) Banned me This is the same malaise which led to the screw up at Pathankot. Regards, Rajan Excuse my jumping in but I find myself scratching my head to figure out ho...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 22:15
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Not sure why this is surprising to anyone. This has always been the case. But again, everyone expects a solution, an answer or a revenge instantly. Give this government a chance and give it some time. You anyways haven't seen anything for decades from previous governments so not sure why expectatio...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 22:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Please feel free to correct me. Because it will only make me happier! Let me try if I can make you happier 1. You are making highly politicized comments, though you state otherway. 2. You are trying to teach the armed forces what their job is ..it is like trying to teach one's dad how to scr#$₩ 3. ...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 21:57
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

I was and am skeptical about the No. of terrorist that entered base. . The following link might put to rest the speculation on fifth and sixth terrorist, who were presumed to be crawling towards hangar through the elephant grass, turned out to be stray pigs.... You seem to have the timelines mixed ...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 21:26
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

The headline is slanted. It is not only about the current Government but this who have ruled us for a couple of decades. The last jhappad we gave was in 1971, massive. Then Kargil, but more of a reaction which one can understand and be proud of. But what worries me now, and it is not political, is t...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 21:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Punjab drug menace is a security threat as Pathankot showed By G D BAKSHI | 9 January, 2016 ... By 2210 hrs, the first lot of 130 NSG troopers had reached the airbase. By 0230 hrs on 3 January, another 80 more NSG men had arrived there. Apparently, these 200 NSG troopers were headed by the IG Ops, ...
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 20:44
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Dear Mr. Ramana,

You have neither extended the courtesy of:
a) Replying to my post except to thank me for my best wishes for BR.
OR
b) Banned me

This is the same malaise which led to the screw up at Pathankot.

Regards,
Rajan
by rajanb
10 Jan 2016 10:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

KaranM, In a way the four terrorists being the decoys for the other two + two still at large could be the reason why "control' was upset with the four per phone intercepts. The attacking force was already near target while these guys were delayed by the Innova taxi driver action. I am also thi...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 20:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

That point can be attributed to the hindsight of all of us, who were neither leading the ops or involved in those decisions. All this excellence business sounds good in theory. But at the end of the day, what counts is speed of response & "best is the enemy of good". Or "a stitch...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 20:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Thanks for the response. HT is as good as TOI. I have my own sources, in person. Sirji, its not whether HT is as good as TOI wagehra, when I am quoting directly from the source i.e. KJ Singh. Your sources in person need to go and square their claims with the above gent. Heres the entire press confe...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 20:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Nawaz does not disappoint Modi. ABP News (@abpnewstv) tweeted at 8:11 PM on Fri, Jan 08, 2016: Proofs given by India not enough: Pak sources (https://twitter.com/abpnewstv/status/685471310986608640?s=03) So now we have gone through the standard Indian PM process, IG with Bhutto, ABV and Modi with N...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 20:18
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

I don't know where and what those sources are from, but all credible reports, directly quoting senior folks involved with the ops, contradict them in that they state the troops were deployed in a methodical fashion. The reason for NSG has been posted repeatedly. The base has significant residential...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 19:42
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

My information is different. Mr Ajit Doval asked for 50 troops. Then when finally the seriousness (and a lot has been posted about how the Intel was handled) hit him. he asked for 150 more. And the, sad part is, there were disagreements on who should command. Delhi sent NSG when we had battalions of...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 19:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Couple of questions that come to mind reading various versions of what happened - Why didn't they use more infantry to guard the base? A handful Garuds, DSC personnel (numbers?) and 168 NSG to guard a sprawling base seems inadequate given that you would need to engage anyone entering at the perimet...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 18:38
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Just read on FB. While one Garud died. His partner took 6 bullets continued fighting and held his post. Preventing the terrorist from entering the technical area. He is out of surgery and danger now Yes. I posted his pics in hospy on fb. Touch wood. he is quickly recovering. Thank heavens. One fami...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 12:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

>>>>>>>Rajan..what would you have done if PM of india? Just curious[/quote] A very simple question which needs a very large detailed answer. .... And ensure that each one of them has the character, integrity and attitude, not to push for the glory of their parent organisations, but to be a well oile...
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 08:48
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

disha wrote:I am surprised that this is not discussed here:

Modi gives Badmash 72 hours deadline to respond!

http://www.firstpost.com/india/well-don ... 74972.html
Someone asked me this question. Here is the answer.

Thanks Disha.
by rajanb
08 Jan 2016 08:40
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

Rajan..what would you have done if PM of india? Just curious A very simple question which needs a very large detailed answer. However, I will encapsulate it, akin to chapters in a book. My answer will bring forward a lot of questions and I am writing on the premise that Country is much greater than...
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 23:01
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

KaranM I would be as critical and bitter about 26/11. Which I still am. I have no political leanings. Except what is right for India. Your constant reference to them, while I am quoting a 56 inch statement which was broadcast, and you cannot deny that happened. Psychologically, the comparison of bea...
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 22:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

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Akshay Kapoor wrote:any options in their minds on how to retaliate ?
SOP will be now in place. And hopefully I am proved wrong.

Forget about it. And let the sacrifices made by brave soldiers and their families go in vain.

plenty of examples. On the net.
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 22:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
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Views: 141973

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Karan M, I have been around for quite some time and always appreciated your tech knowledge which has taught me a lot. However: a) All I am trying to say and ask, is it wrong to raise the bar, as far as we are concerned? Just a yes or No answer will suffice. b) WE have been attacked many times before...
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 21:11
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
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Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

I wouldn't blame the Armed Forces chiefs.
Unless they are politically appointed?

Camp Bastion attack?
So we do not set our own standards?
We compare? Do you even comprehend the term excellence?
A country with millennia of history and knowledge, stoops to compare with Camp Bastion?
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 20:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
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Views: 141973

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>>>>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pathankot-attack-How-Operation-Dhangu-was-won/articleshow/50476559.cms Operation Dhangu!! CHANDIGARH: The Army on Wednesday justified the deployment of NSG in the operation against the six terrorists at the Pathankot airbase, saying that the three service...
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 20:05
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
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Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

>>Panag and many others are desperately trying to take the credit away from the government on a successful operation. that is the crux of the issue. including some political types who are interspersing such commentary amongst cursing Modi, Doval all the time. their sudden concern for "mission ...
by rajanb
07 Jan 2016 19:43
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analysis-I
Replies: 1006
Views: 141973

Re: Pathankot AFB terrorist Attack After Action Analyisis-I

>>>>>It IS at that level, sadly. As for "72 Hours", that is a misstatement. What GOI said is that the terrorists each met 72 HourIs.[/quote] You funny Batori. A few years back, God declared he had run out of virgins. So they would have got virgin fleshlights. :p[/quote] some enterprising I...