Bharat Rakshak

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What an absurd waste of money and more importantly time. For the same cost we could have had around 80 Super MKI and most of them delivered by 2023. There is no way 36 Rafale can outperform a fleet of 80 Super MKI. Thats hardly an argument , Lets dump the 2K , 29 Jags and go for all MKI fleet that ...

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What an absurd waste of money and more importantly time. For the same cost we could have had around 80 Super MKI and most of them delivered by 2023. There is no way 36 Rafale can outperform a fleet of 80 Super MKI.

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True, adding 70-80 Super MKI or just off the shelf buy of 36-54 Su-35 still is better idea than buying the Rafale at this point. The above numbers can be wrapped up for around 5 billion, there is still 4-5 billion left for other purchases.

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RIP Col. :( May you walk with Angels of War in heaven teaching them a thing or two of what is to be an Elite IA Officer. High time, IA improves protective kit, we still see front line units going into battle with hardly any protection. Often SF folk too don't carry any BJPs. There needs to be strict...

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Ppl say the rearming and outfit of Mumbai police for pitched fight post 26/11 was a sham and went nowhere. We better sharpen your game because no better way to embarrass and scar the namo govt. Sickulars are always begging for such things to happen so they can attack the govt Indeed, Force ONE, NSG...

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There are several ghettos like Molenbeek in London, going by how dense and complex London suburb is , UK police has done excellent job of safeguarding their people, what conspires behind curtain we can only speculate, but after 7/7 they have kept the country clean, this morning Cameroon said UK pol...

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Septimus I must ask you officially to stop these CTs of kgb being behind the paris bombings. Yes, sorry if I come across making them look bad with my controversial claims. For all I care, their actions or inactions are justified as part of state craft. I'll refrain from mentioning them again. In th...

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Do you really think Putin, KGB or any 'not to be ****** with Russian' would take this lightly? Yes. Russia and Putin has been lampooned very vigorously in the past and they just shrugged off We will wait for the Brussels investigation to end, before giving out clean chits to your own borough and go...

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In 1986, driving from paris to munich, we were stopped twice by the french police on that single journey and the car was virtually ripped open, seats removed, luggage rudely dumped on the road and inspected, what not up to but not including a cavity search. They did not even take a second look at th...

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france has very open borders and a large disgruntled maghrebi community - much easier to get weapons in and out from other countries. belgium is probably a softer target for creating a base from which to infiltrate france given that french police are fairly intrusive (and robust) uk has the advanta...

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people claim if you have right contacts can go to molenbeek and buy a automatic rifle for 500-1000 Euros. surplus arms from the yugoslav conflict are sold to gangsters, though pistols would be more in demand, ak56 can be arranged. Very true, but these contacts are usually low level gunner runners g...

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Is it that UK and US security services are really tight and nothing can happen there or is it that stuff is tried but they get busted by the time its too late. Its been running on my mind since yday. It cant be that France is just picked out of the ordinary to be taught a lesson. Quite unlikely, IM...

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well gents this attack sure is from ISIS but the weapons are coming courtesy of KGB/FSB, here's why... Roughly 3 weeks ago, an ill-fated Russian aircraft is bombed, 200+ killed and Russia is in deep mourning and few days later, Charlie Hebdo releases an image mocking the Russian dead, more so mockin...

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I doubt that much money is available to buy just one weapon system when there are huge "higher priority" acquisition requirements. DM pointed out recently that there wasn't enough money to spend on 126 Rafales plus get other priority items for the armed forces. A more affordable compromise...

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I think it might be USD 1.1 Billion and not 11 Billion. 1.1 billion will buy you 1 full regiment of 3-4 battalions or 2 regiments of 2 battalions each.No way this deal so small, in such a case we can only protect Delhi and Mumbai. These will anyways be protected by AAD & PAD. NO, everything poi...

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If the deal for S-400 is indeed for 11 billion, then we can easily have 12-13 Full Regiments. Initial Regimental sets in Russia had 2 battalions & 4 batteries each, latest regimental sets now have 3 battalions. So a full regimental set is actually 3 battalions with 4 batteries (4 TELs + 4TLV) ea...

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S-400 is ideal both in terms of Pak and Chinese threat, we can enforce no fly zones without ever crossing the border. It will be become harder for both sides to find ways into our airspace with aircraft, UAVS, cruise missiles and some SR/IRBMs. If indeed the order is for 12 Systems, this is pretty b...

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hmmm very cool, love the idea of Jags with AESA. Now high time to re-engine them, the Honeywell, AESA would make this puppy a great 4.5 gen aircraft. EL2052 is one of the best AESAs out there.

ELTA 2052

http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/7/41417.pdf

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Well you are talking of "behind the scenes" and I am talking of what Chief told . he has not talked bout 400 for sure. second you are banking on "intentions" of Unkil. I don't. And I don't know what Unkil is to gain fro rafale sale to India. It is another competitor only. Perhaps...

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The Average US Marine is a far better Infantryman and Rifleman than a US Army Soldier. (Exclude Rangers and SOF elements). I am saying even better than the 82nd. (essentially just Airborne Infantry). average shooting time / Mock Deployment training a year is far higher for a Marine than a Soldier. ...

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^^^^ Well the upcoming deal let's say. Correction, it appears a typical Russia regimental set has 2 fire units of 12 launchers i.e. 48 missiles per unit & 96 missiles per regimental set. An order for 12 regiments would have 1152 missiles ready to fire with I think at least double the number in r...

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srai wrote:^^^

Fantasy world?

Well more like speculative. The size of a regiment in Russia is quite big just as mentioned. Now what needs to be clarified is if we are getting 12 battalions or 12 regiments.

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The S-400 deal should go ahead, its a far better investment than the Rafale, for 9 billion we can easily have 12-14 regiments of the S-400. A regimental set has 2 firing sets, each firing set with 12 launchers of 4 missiles i.e 48 missiles. If indeed the order is for 12 regimental sets. That would m...

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12 S-400 systems, does that mean 12 Battalions or 12 regiments? Each battalion it appears has upto 8 launchers, i.e 32 missiles. Can be a mix of the 40N6 long range 400km missile & the 9M96E2 120 km missile. I think we are looking at around 384 missiles in total if indeed we buy 12 battalions. B...

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If you look at the original reports,the issue of spares,etc was supposed to have been sorted out ages ago by establishing local vendors,local manufacturing,etc. Each entity passes the buck which goes round and round in a circle. The IAF is blamed for not wanting enough spares so the inventory could...

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Last time I heard we were only dreaming about 400 LCAs..and who knows what engine will be there finally. And IAF Chief said Rafale is about to be concluded by year end. If unkil has french balls in its grasp why did it not ask rafale to be withdrawn. In fact sanctions are good in one way, if scient...

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Old news, the current TOT absorption for the MKI is at 70% and 16 aircraft are being churned out yearly from the plant. Furthermore, availability in the meantime has gone up to around 65%. It will be at over 70% by end of year. HAL is not entirely to be blamed for delays.

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Attack Helis, ... yes, the total number that we would eventually operate will be minuscle in comparison to mainstay fighter planes and their roles would also be specific. So I don't see how that would be relevant in comparing with fighters. If they ditch on attack helis, we would have quick alternat...

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Thanks brar. In short IAF needs a ~40K PGM inventory for just TSP and PRC to feel comfortable.. I think IAF needs a stock of around 80K PGMs for TSP/PRC to have enough contingency. Breakdown: Cruise Missiles: Nirbhay 2000, Brahmos 1-1000, Brahmos Mini-1000, Brahmos-2-1000 LGB kits: 20K GPS/Glidebom...

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>>>If G2G was the way forward, NaMo should have re-opened the competition vs EF for the G2G deal, wasnt worth it per reports since EF was far more expensive than the Rafale. Perhaps, but in a competitive deal, the EF consortium would have easily put enough price and terms pressure. Keep in mind eve...

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If G2G was the way forward, NaMo should have re-opened the competition vs EF for the G2G deal, we would have better terms & prices. During the whole MRCA farce we also found out Rafale wasn't L-1 either. Allowing EF back in the race would have forced the competing parties to play ball and the be...

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No that did not occur to me. I thought Modi and his team would have best interest in mind. But then they would have told you the whole plan.... you know... Grand Scheme of things.... It is called having alternatives, a reliable one. How many Mirage 2K did we operate and what roles did they play? BTW...

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For all the good work the Govt. is doing, going forward with the Rafale deal will be the biggest of its blunders. Paying 9 billion for an already cash strapped military is lunacy, for this kind of money we can easily order another 100 Super MKI. A better deal is to order a fresh batch of 50 Super M...

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For all the good work the Govt. is doing, going forward with the Rafale deal will be the biggest of its blunders. Paying 9 billion for an already cash strapped military is lunacy, for this kind of money we can easily order another 100 Super MKI. A better deal is to order a fresh batch of 50 Super MK...

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The whole concept of Air Defense Guns is out dated and this role can be taken up in India by Akash missile system. Nonsense. What do you think close in weapons systems use? Indeed, Air Defence Guns are the last line of defence and we need good ones to replace old Bofors and AK130s. Skyshield is ide...

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I also feel Sky shield should be the common Anti Air system across the board, can be fitted on trucks, armored vehicles, ships. Ideal, the system is pretty advanced and the best replacement for the Anti air guns.

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Actually the Kestrel is the ideal platform for plenty of things; FICV for use with the IA Marine ICV for use with IN's upcoming Naval Brigades IMO the ideal platform for Namica 105mm Light Wheeled Artillery or light tank that can be air dropped Ideal platform for Akash Launcher Unmanned Ground vehic...

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Okay for a sec , i take it for granted that brahmos-A have only strategic role ie delivering nukes but what stops them from flight testing the missile, it is not as if a/c should have AESA radar , EMP hardened electronics for flight testing a nuke "capable " missile when there wont be any...

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Out of an initial order of 216 Brahmos-A for the IAF, we can easily expect between 20-40 missiles tipped with Nuke warheads. Also we can expect Brahmos-M to be deployed on these MKI in the next 2-3 years, being lighter circa 1.4 tons and faster around mach 3.5-5, some of these to will have nuke tips...

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So you mean to say Brahmos A have only Nuke role ??? Brahmos-A with the SFC is bound to a have secondary Nuke role, SFC are the ones who asked for this. Primary roles of the Brahmos-A will be for conventional strikes against 'strategic' hardened targets i.e. destroying strategic weapons storage sit...

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