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by debjani
17 Dec 2003 21:44
Forum: Military Exercises Archive
Topic: Operation Parakram: An Analysis
Replies: 163
Views: 61747

Re: Operation Parakram: An Analysis

Shiv,

The 'enthusiastic' analysis hit the nail on the head.

Thus, the shoe was not lost et al and the rider was not lost!
by debjani
21 Nov 2003 10:17
Forum: Military History Archive
Topic: Indian Patriotic Songs
Replies: 119
Views: 79225

Re: Indian Patriotic Songs

There are TOO many Bengali songs that are patriotic to even mention written by DL Roy, Tagore, Nazrul Islam etc.

Starting with Jana Gana Mana.... :D
by debjani
19 Nov 2003 10:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Shiv,

Thats right. Battlespace networking in all dimensions is absolutely essential. That is why the aerospace command that the Air Chief spoke about is pertinent.

Unfortunately, everything remains conceptual and drags.
by debjani
17 Nov 2003 19:51
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

The RMA envelope as applicable to the US is not applicable to India for obvious reasons. RMA, though has many connotations [practically like beauty being in the eye of the beholder], an amalgam of technology or societal changes to pursue our military aim, could be the starting block for addressing t...
by debjani
10 Nov 2003 01:28
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by nitin: Ray, That post was an article by Srinjoy C based on some official document.Right you are-on the dot-that its official speak all the way. I guess we are all in agreement that a ISR Revolution would really enhance the IA's present day fighting potential.Do we go deeper int...
by debjani
09 Nov 2003 21:37
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Sukumar, Perspective Planning is an interesting field. The military view naturally is under the shadow of the official thought process of the government. These documents indeed are impressive and couched in the latest terminology of foreign military papers. However, I wanted to move out from the bey...
by debjani
09 Nov 2003 21:11
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Sukumar, Perspective Planning is an interesting field. The military view naturally is under the shadow of the official thought process of the government. These documents indeed are impressive and couched in the latest terminology of foreign military papers. However, I wanted to move out from the bey...
by debjani
09 Nov 2003 12:36
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Sukumar, The steps that you have enunciated are very apt. 1. What would be the security environment in 15 years? [a]The ‘ugly stability’ between India and Pakistan, in all probability, will wax and wane as it would be in the interest of ALL ‘powers that be’ to ensure that Ind...
by debjani
06 Nov 2003 13:38
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Ok. Let us say we have nothing more on the concept of RMA to add. Within the ambit of whatever we discussed, what should be our line of approach to 1. acquire eqpt. Which ones reqd? 2. What should be the organisations? Obviously, the strategic perception should be kept in mind. One could even enunci...
by debjani
04 Nov 2003 10:26
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Tim, The points are valid. I reckon it has to be state level to wage an 'efficient' war if called upon to do so as the last resort. In my earlier post I have enunciated what is RMA as per the US and even there there are many views. In fact, it is all encompassing. I reckon that blind application of ...
by debjani
02 Nov 2003 22:07
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

TSJ, I will TRY to answer your queries as well as I can, though it maybe imperfect. The COIN issue is off topic, but I will still attempt. We require RMA. Of course, it cannot be on the scale of the US, but a start can be made. The comparison should be with the capabilities [perceived and reported] ...
by debjani
01 Nov 2003 21:28
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

TSJ,

Post mortem or after action reports are confined to the forces themselves.

I am not too sure how far they seriously address issues though Lessons Learnt are sure there.

Military Journals do carry Lessons Learnt. Of course, they are personal opinions.
by debjani
31 Oct 2003 19:06
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by davidn: with the recent reports of India signing onto the Galileo project for $300 mil euros, what affect will that have on current GPS equipment? can they work with both signals, or will new equipment need to be brought in? Since i suspect the latter, is it possible to create ...
by debjani
31 Oct 2003 19:02
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by Y I Patel:

PS
Ray sahab, I had sent you an email recently. Is your old account still active? Mine is, so please drop me a line at your convenience.
No, I haven't got it. The email id is still valid.
by debjani
31 Oct 2003 09:21
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Having attempted to explain RMA and then spelling out the Pakistan and China scenario, the author of the same artcile in PINNACLE attempts to analyse the Indian Imperatives in Future Comabat Milieu. ************************************************* India's Imperatives in Future Combat Milieu The fut...
by debjani
29 Oct 2003 21:40
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Singha, Have you anything better in so far as info on the PRC is concerned to offer? There has to be some baseline even if exaggerated. It is better to err on the positive side than be smug in an aura of fond delusions. They put the man in space. I reckon we all must be hallucinating when the report...
by debjani
29 Oct 2003 16:33
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Shiv, I didn't want to post such long posts. Hopefully, this will clarify what appeared as gobbledygook in that Paragraph. ********************************************** Rudra Singha, Your post: 'china has little or no RMA other than a few showpiece 'fist units' - scads of pics on internet fora care...
by debjani
28 Oct 2003 18:44
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by Rudra Singha: GOI would do well to listen to these people. to the avg 10th pass neta, SF means VIP security to guard his own corrupt arse. But I would hope the top NDA leadership is well above the avg state-level neta. I would rather SF go after folks like masood azhar than 2c ...
by debjani
28 Oct 2003 12:13
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Let's look at RMA. I produce part of an article that was published in the PINNACLE [since they don't have a website.] Sorry, it is too long. The aim is to bring in posters who are otherwise shy since RMA is still in the realm of mumbo jumbo. But keep my first post in mind when you offer comments not...
by debjani
27 Oct 2003 22:46
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

RMA is not only about info control. It means an integrated battlefield with real time intelligence [different from info]and combat elements being at the correct place with correct strength to defeat the enemy. A very simplistic explanation though. Or defeating the enemy with minimum contact [and thu...
by debjani
27 Oct 2003 16:06
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

This bullet bit was for you Shiv so that you could give us the medical side of the issue. This is on RMA and not on bullets actually. While many would also understand strategy and tactics, I was banking on the technological types like the point raised about Network Centric Warfare. That itself is a ...
by debjani
27 Oct 2003 12:50
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Here is something for info.   Military rifle bullet wound patterns by Martin L. Fackler In addition to the full-metal-jacketed construction which makes them "military" bullets, the pointed ogival "spitzer" tip shape is shared by all modern military bullets. The obvious advantage of this streamlined ...
by debjani
27 Oct 2003 06:31
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Anoop, Thats exactly what we are doing. Rush in and stagger to a halt. We have to think of other options. Also, we have to think of beyond the seas and the mountains. It is going to cost money and so it should be a long term plan. What all should this plan encompass? Not merely the rifle. What else?...
by debjani
26 Oct 2003 22:59
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by Rudra Singha: Ha! all 7.62mm diehards will be shot tomorrow. nowhere in the world is anyone considering a return to 7.62mm , ete. I have used both 7.62 and 5.56 in CI and combat. We converted to 7.62 as soon as we could in Kargil from AKs which we carried there. The 7.62 is hea...
by debjani
26 Oct 2003 08:00
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Rudra That 'rusty' 7.62 that the Pak is carrying is more 'trusty' than the 5.56 since the amn yaws and tumbles, not so accurate and the 'kill' power is lower. So much so for the Small arms debate thats on the BRF. Talking of bulletproof vest, there is an intersting side effect. A 7.62 hits you so ha...
by debjani
24 Oct 2003 23:29
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Also, please don't be Pak centric. Our interest lies well beyond our borders and seas.
by debjani
24 Oct 2003 23:19
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by Anaath Das: Rakesh, Thanks for the well-thought-out responses. Could you expand on A2 .." Our soldiers need to be better rounded and they need to get out of their regimental thought process and look at the bigger picture. They need to understand the political situation before g...
by debjani
23 Oct 2003 21:23
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by Rakesh Koshy: Ray Saheb, The original title had 'Indian Army' in it. If you wish, I can change it to Indian Armed Forces. Just let me know. No, basically I wanted it for the Army since the others are in it in a big way. I just wanted to bring into focus that integration of ware...
by debjani
23 Oct 2003 19:53
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Re: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

Originally posted by Rakesh Koshy: Ray Saheb, I have changed the title of the thread, to avoid members getting confused between this thread and the General Army Discussion thread. Thanks. Indian Experience in RMA By Air Commodore A K Tiwary (Retd.) Fine by me. It must be understood that IA will not...
by debjani
23 Oct 2003 18:12
Forum: Strategic & Security Issues Archive
Topic: Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs
Replies: 159
Views: 66422

Indian Army - Revolution in Military Affairs

While the Indian Army is operational competent, yet the scientific and technological march the world over apparently the Revolution in Military Affairs {RMA} has outpaced the jack of all trades approach towards warfare. Apparently, specialisation is the need of the hour especially in the field of: 1...
by debjani
14 Aug 2003 06:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Badges, Patches, Insignia, Medals & Uniforms
Replies: 197
Views: 57905

Re: Military Medals, Ribbons and Patches

The Yudh Seva medal series have orange background.

The Vishisht Seva Medal series have Yellow background.
by debjani
12 Aug 2003 06:15
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Kargil Revisited
Replies: 329
Views: 94167

Re: Kargil Revisited

Originally posted by rrikhye: [A very simple example: I didnt know till I read Amin that there are Muslim Rajputs, and are very proud to this day to say so. Okay, so I know some of you are saying "gosh Ravi is so ignorant", but come on, lets be honest: how many of us knew that?] Best to you all - k...
by debjani
03 Jul 2003 11:28
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Bharat Rakshak Celebrates Six Years!
Replies: 66
Views: 26422

Re: Bharat Rakshak Celebrates Six Years!

Originally posted by Ayoub: I'm surprised that none of you have mentioned me as a 'lurker.' I guess you won't give me the satisfication of being known as the 'lurker.' Ayoub, You are not a lurker, you are a Peeping Tom, but a nice one at that. I hope you are liking what you are seeing! It's only si...
by debjani
03 Jul 2003 11:23
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Manning the Siachen Glacier
Replies: 126
Views: 49667

Re: Manning the Siachen Glacier

Originally posted by ehsmang: Bishwa, In the KArgil thread Ray had said that the entire PAki operations ( Kargil) were unteanable since they had not thought through about the logistics. ( this is when they had quite a few months to prepare). How then would a intrusion onto Siachen be viable when th...
by debjani
02 Jul 2003 14:35
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Manning the Siachen Glacier
Replies: 126
Views: 49667

Re: Manning the Siachen Glacier

Originally posted by Daulat: Ray - i was curious to read in your post that a man carries 15kg and a donkey 20kg. a 5kg advantage seems barely worth it? (yes, i know, every kg counts!) I imagined somehow that donkeys might carry twice a man's burden at least. [/QUOTE] _______________________________...
by debjani
02 Jul 2003 10:06
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Manning the Siachen Glacier
Replies: 126
Views: 49667

Re: Manning the Siachen Glacier

Shiv, 1. The fig 1:1.2 is the overall force ratio superiority we have against Pakistan. 2. To be successful in attack, in the HAA, we require 7:1. That is the attacker is to be 7 times the str of the defenders 1. The reasons are obvious since the HAA environment. 3. In the plains 3:1 is the formula ...
by debjani
01 Jul 2003 22:30
Forum: The Kargil Archive
Topic: Kargil Revisited
Replies: 329
Views: 94167

Re: Kargil Revisited

Aditya, 1. I am aware Sawant’s father is a Brigdier. He is a Brigadier of the Army Education Corps and was my instructor in the IMA. Amarinder Singh, was a Captain in the Army and Squadron Cadet Captain A Sqn in the NDA. Further, they are Hony Cols of the Sikh Regt. Hence, military stuff is better k...
by debjani
01 Jul 2003 21:00
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Manning the Siachen Glacier
Replies: 126
Views: 49667

Re: Manning the Siachen Glacier

Originally posted by Daulat: Ray hypothetically speaking - how long could PA resist IA advance in Turtok if their logistics were fully interdicted by aggressive air? All have their their three lines of ammunition and are stocked in rations for the year. Therefore, interdiction really does not affec...
by debjani
01 Jul 2003 18:37
Forum: Military Issues Archive
Topic: Manning the Siachen Glacier
Replies: 126
Views: 49667

Re: Manning the Siachen Glacier

YIP startles with insight.

I appreciate that while I was inward looking, he is outward looking and aggressively fresh. I looked at Karakorum as China connecting to it.

YIP looked at it better - our gateway into China!!
Well done, sir.
by debjani
01 Jul 2003 11:58
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Bharat Rakshak Celebrates Six Years!
Replies: 66
Views: 26422

Re: Bharat Rakshak Celebrates Six Years!

First of all, congratulations on completion of six years. Though a veteran in this field, I compliment all members for educating me on many aspects of the profession that I knew, but very vaguely. I would have mentioned names of those whose posts I keenly observe especially in the geo political and ...

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