Bharat Rakshak

kuldipchager ,niran: here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor I was off a couple of billion at 66.7 billion so sue me. Also they delayed the program 7years before they started production,and mismanaged it.The YF-22 was a weak design ,and they spent 7 years redesigning it to come close to...

philip nice long response. How many post are you going to try and bury so people don't see the truth?No reason in debating anything with you because you don't care for India in the first place.Even if proven wrong you will just post more high volume responses that don't mean anything.You bury post ...

I don't understand why India has to pay 30-60 billion for the pakfa jet fighter.It cost the u.s.a 63 billion for F-22 and they own the whole thing. Why can't India just wait until russia puts in it's own money to produces the whole pakfa for international market ,and buy it for 100,000 million dolla...

philip did you just add 2 more paragraphs to your already super long response.Nice deflection! Out of sight out of mind,if people can't see positive post then I will just keep on posting super long comments so they don't see it ,and hope they forget about it. This is Bull crap Mods, please do someth...

I think if you're not Stealth then you are dead in the sky vs when the mass production of the china 5th gen. fighters come on line in 10years.As time goes by the "speed" of being lethal will increase ,and I think some of you guys think that if you get 1000 MKI's or 500 Rafale fighters that...

philip you give out comments that are bias towards the AMCA being successful ,and you also write 5 page posts to bury subject you don't like to talk about.That's a deflection tactic that the Mods should pay attention to and delete your negative posts. What is the computer power of the AMCA program? ...

While learning about how other companies were developing their 5th gen. fighters I saw that they had multiple ways of collecting that data ,and making adjustments to the jet fighter. Collecting data ,and seeing what works and what doesn't is a big process of developing the final product.I have seen ...

Looking back on past posted comments I can see who favors a self sufficient jet fighter industry for India,and who doesn't. "Continuation" is what every jet fighter program needs to survive ,and russia gets that,and India stays idle. How hard would it be to offer Sweden and South Korea a p...

I would really like to see Indian Government think long term and invest in the future of the Indian Aerospace programs. The Sweden Government ,and country is not a better one vs India ,but they had the foresight to see past 5,10,or 20 years ,and invest in jet fighter industry ,and are very successfu...

Question,If India is investing 30 Billion to buy the Pak-Fa does it get a discount in spare parts? Thinking about how much India is investing in Sukhoi company ,and I don't see a discount in the overall lifespan of the Pak-Fa for India.Will India spend another 10 to 15 Billion on spare parts and sof...

I was reading about past 5th generation projections of the ATF YF-23 vs yf-22,and I realized that these big companies like Northrop design and build their own aircraft ,but it's not just these major companies that do it all by themselves.It takes a hundreds of little companies to help them make that...

I think that the Indian government should have just bought a major share of Saab Group ,and moved the manufacturing capabilities over to India. Instead of just buying the product you can now just build them yourselves.Transfer that technology to building up more LCA's and AMCA. The AMCA will be the ...

Working on the AMCA is the future of the IAF,and the MMRCA ,and LCA are obsolete vs 5th generation jet fighters. The FGFA is not a joint program with the russians ,but just a 5th gen version of the Su-30MKI that sucks the blood,sweat,and tears of the Indian tax payer.The main reason for the MMRCA is...

It is very sad to see that the AMCA is not fully supported by the Indian government.I was hoping to see India use it's vast ,and talented pool of scientist ,and engineers create a world class 5th generation jet fighter.India has to try and be self sufficient in Jet fighter manufacturing ,and save th...

It's very strange that the Indian Government wants to have a conversation with 2 thieves. One being the chinese army stealing the land while thief number 2 the chinese government comes over to have negotiations so that you the Indian government thinks it has options ,and doesn't look weak in front o...

Are they trying to mix and match design elements from both the YF-23 and F-22? If they are then they should only copy from most advanced version of the two which is YF-23. If you every look at YF-23, F-22 and Pak-fa you can clearly see which one is the most sleek and aerodynamic of the 3,and it's no...

Wow, The AMCA looks simply amazing with the diamond shaped wings!Very beautiful plane indeed! I was thinking to myself that what a jet fighter is doing when it goes so fast through the air is simple cutting it's way through a wall of air. The faster he or she goes through that air the tougher that a...

My sincere apologies to Rahul M ,and other mods for posting off topic material. I was overly excited to talk about my favorite 5th gen. fighter that I got carried away with it. My wholehearted desire was to inform you as much possible about other great 5th programs. I would like to see the India Air...

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this is the PAKFA/FGFA thread, not hypothetical yf-23/J20 thread.

If you simply copy this design or that design provided you even understand fully how that design would work which is not possible in absence of design ,test data and know why , then you will suffocate your ability to innovate and think out of the box .... and if the original design fails for some r...

nash, The USA is not just going to hand over the design plans of the YF-23 fighter to Indian government ,or anybody else. They wouldn't what India to have such a capable jet fighter. India just has to tell USA politely that they will incorporate most of the design features into their Stealth fighter...

Nash, It's hard to understand what you are asking me.The overall design of the YF-23 is one of the best stealth designs that you could incorporate into future 5th gen. design for the India Air Force. When you read past my pictures of my last post the information is from an article from GlobalSecurit...

nash, Pak-FA is a evolutionary design of a Sukhoi jet ,while the YF-23 is a Revolutionary design for maximum stealth,speed and maneuverability.YF-23 is considerard one of the most beautiful jet fighters ever made. Is it not just a big Math problem when you try to design your own stealth fighter.So i...

indranilroy I will look into the J-20 thread,but I would really like to see India and HAL to not try to reinvent the wheel ,and save money ,and time by studying or copying a great design like the YF-23.I think that the FGFA and AMCA will look very similar to the PAK-50,but if it look like the YF-23 ...

indranilroy I accept your apology,and I'm not a Jet fighter expert or anything. I was trying to have a conversation about Stealth fighters that's all.You could still learn from a RC models because it still has to fly.I still think India and HAL should borrow that design,and if China stole that other...

Badar,Thank You for your respectful response!

indranilroy,Wow really, I posted the J-20 to start a conversation about stealth fighters,and it wasn't the main point of my post.I just thought it was a cool video to see.Also I didn't know you were an expert on the J-20 ,and the Chinese aren't going to let you get a full blown report on video of wh...

Hello everyone! I've recently saw a cool video of the J-20 on Youtube, and I was very surprised by what this mini version of the J-20 could do in the air.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-gug6GdEI. I always thought that J-20 was more of a Teck demonstrator until China could steal the design plans fo...