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That shouldn't be a surprise wrt to max punishment. It is a very good deterrent to a mutinous situation in war time

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Wasn't sure where to post this, but thought this thread would be the most logical one to put in http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/japanese-war-bunkers-to-be-revived-in-the-andamans/articleshow/49569132.cms Japanese war bunkers, constructed during Japanese occupation of the Andaman and...

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Not sure if this was posted earlier http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/abg-pipavav-keep-fingers-crossed-as-mod-to-decide-on-their-capacity-to-handle-rs-20000-crore-contract/articleshow/49561093.cms Private shipyards ABG and Pipavav are keeping their fingers crossed as the Defence Minis...

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Very very interesting... http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2015/10/a-second-tejas-assembly-line.html As this newspaper has reported, there has been a major breakthrough in one of India’s most ambitious and expensive weapons development projects --- the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) --- with the Indi...

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Saw the CABS hack flying today early evening

Some time later a jet (not sure if it was IJT or Hawk)

Any idea on what they could be testing?

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http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2015/02/while-iaf-drags-feet-over-tejas-naval.html Even as the Indian Air Force (IAF) wrangles over details in the manufacture and induction of its first squadron of Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA), the Indian Navy is powering ahead with its programme to develop a na...

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I saw it come in to land 5 mnts back

Lungi dance

NP 2 had the yellow primer

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You are right and I got the basic drift, but a minor nitpick.

Bomdila comes before Sela (if you are approaching from Misamari, Assam). Bumla would be after Sela & Tawang

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Yes it is. IIRC, it is 56 APO for most of India and 99 APO for Eastern Command

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dinesh_kumar wrote: IMHO, an Artillery piece can have a maximum of 7 support personnel. But in IA, the numbers for some artillery brigades with 24 pieces go into 1000s.

Just curious to know which Arty Bde has 24 pieces?

TIA

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Wouldn't the GT be a gas guzzler?

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^^ possible. As i stated that my info could be dated Orbat states this, however this could be dated too... http://orbat.com/site/gd/cwpf_2006/india/bsf.html The BSF is unusual among Indian paramilitary forces because it has its own artillery, approximately 30 batteries with 200 3.7-inch mountain gun...

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My info could be dated but BSF had 25 pounders + mortars

I think, they come under operation control of Army only during war

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Now now, you aren't being sickular now... Shame shame

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One more point, most infantry units are no more single class units except for Sikh Regt, Sikh LI & GR as far as I know. Most are mixed units and they work very well (to dispel any martial etc jazz) ^I guess if references to past acclaims are important (and indeed they are important), the referen...

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Let us not get into a martial vs non-martial debate now pls...

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nice pics. BTW, that is Umaid Bhavan in Jodhpur in the background

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Karan, these traditions are typically evolutionary in nature, i.e. incremental. As these units get more accolades with newer post-Independence actions, it will get added to their "rich" & "long" history from their POV - they have continued to maintain their marital traditions...

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+1 to put it simply, it works for them. As the American saying goes... "if it ain't broke, don't fix it..." Paltan ki izzat, these idiosyncrasies, etc do add to that unique blend which is required to make the faujis feel they are a class apart. Makes them feel that they have the edge over ...

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Thanks deejay for sharing the youtube link. Didn't know this film existed. Brings very dear memories and nostalgia for me...

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I like the way we arm chair generals are also deciding how IA should now fight. If we can get equal or more intense fire with fewer guns, why not? IIRC, one of the key features of FH77B that was highlighted when it was introduced was its higher rate of fire along with automated loading system and sh...

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Not at all, The Amur is completely a new design and a single hull submarine. The Kilo was double hull & 3000 tons but both the Amurs are single hull and much much lighter: Thanks. I had done a quick dirty job of referring wiki and it had stated "It is advertised as an export version of the...

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There is really no point in adding another submarine building line, it just won't be sustainable. Its best to go for additional Scorpions and a couple of Kilos(rather than Amurs) from Russia if it is absolutely required. IIRC, aren't the Amurs a modified version of the Kilos? Perhaps I am oversimpl...

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I will put it in a different way... For whatever was done, if it helps in boosting morale of our troops including "in their viewpoint" that Hemraj's beheading was avenged and it ensures that the enemy doesnt dare repeat it, then all is fair...

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Nik... I have reported your post. You may disagree with lots of decisions that IA has taken, but for God's sake stop this nonsensical rant about addictions, coups and Maoist (even if you are showing desperation) The men in Services deserve respect. These are the guys who are ready to lay their lives...

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Just as note on the little controversy that has been raging in Artillery Thread, please to note my vote for RohitVats Sir. His posts are pure gold. Backed up with facts and insights with little-to-no hyperbole. Not to mention the fact that I have hardly ever seen him use a broad brush to describe a...

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RajitO wrote:Can I nominate the local AWWA body as a QRT as well since they are often called on in the middle of the night to sort out issues of domestic strife?

If you don't have anything of value to be added in a discussion, pls don't attack the keyboard unnecessarily...

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Vaibhav, I have never stated that QRT personnel only do that task. QRT at a unit level will be composed of personnel from the unit. Moreover, the entire discussion seems to have moved only towards the QRT part of it. I do agree that we are all speculating and the truth will only come out in a COI, b...

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2. The unit fought with how it trained, as light cavalry. How does engaging and creating a cordon with a Troop of Tanks against Infantry in the open or in cover endanger the tanks. It looks like the unit recover pretty quickly to contain them. 3. Armoured units do not have the luxury in manpower th...

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sameerjoshi wrote: That is my only point.........lets not trade our keyboards for Kalashnikovs and start shooting from the hip lets hold our gun triggers a wee bit more and look for the 'real' enemy!

Roger

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This is precisely the point. Running around like headless chickens is counter productive. Leading from the front doesn't mean that you are the first to be shot leaving the men headless. Surely a Court of Inquiry will happen and there will be heads that will roll. We ofcourse have the advantage of l...

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Agreed... We armchair Generals can only analyse and nitpick...

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The qrts of 2 SIKH had come by then - how? One of their boys was att with us undergoing cmptr course and he rang up his unit. Henc the unit and the bde reached there swiftly. This part of the report (if true) is worrying because if the 2 Sikh QRT came only because one of their guys called them and ...

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Agreed Sameer, 16 Cav had a QRT and we don't know about their tactical employment. However, CO getting shot while in a tank, 2 Sikh finally coming in etc. means things went all over the place. In this case, the Bde Cdr will have to answer some tough questions... Before, some folks jump in to defend ...

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^^ Thanks for sharing this. Folks, QRT is always a reality for all units (and I am repeating this once again). Even an ASC Supply Coy is expected to have atleast a section (10-12 soldiers) on QRT detail. At a Bde level, a Bn would be tasked, at a Bn level a Coy, and so on. Even at a Bde level, each ...

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Pls get specs if you have an issue

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Whoa! Slow down there...you might want to qualify your remarks that such SOP is applicable only to certain units. Unless your contention is that ASC, AMC, EME units all maintain a QRT. In the case of 16 Cav being under a different Corps despite being in a high threat level area, is the explanation ...

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^^^ Reading the different accounts of the IA's response to the attack. I am perplexed by the various accounts and reaction to it. By all accounts an army unit in its barracks, during peace time, is not equipped to fight on a moments notice. That too within its own barracks. For a simple reason, tha...

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Is it procedures which are wrong or the earlier trials not complete? It is a good point to explore as and when we get more information on this, Ramanaji It could be anything from faulty design, faulty ammo or procedures. Typically, barrel burst if due to faulty procedure can toast the CO's career t...

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Same is the case for Arty, Armd, Sappers... Earlier, the CO was a Lt. Col and was later changed to Col... IIRC, sometime in mid-80s

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