Bharat Rakshak

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Any update on the HAL Light Observation (LUH) helicopter and when it will fly? Way back in 2012, it was widely reported that the jigs are in place and there might be a first flight in 2013. No news on wiki/blogs either. I know no news is good news but with HAL, you never know...

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On the "BASMATI" patent fraud, please read below- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmati#Patent_battle Although Ricetec was initially awarded a patent, India took a very aggressive stance against it with the US and this was later revoked. I was in the US for close to 7 years and had been fol...

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^^ No idea where you are getting the $75 Million/flyaway cost of the F-35. I have consistently read estimates of $120 MM++ for the F-35A and that too in LRIP 6 (not the initial batches) http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35-deal-targets-unit-cost-below-100-million The proof of the pudding is in the e...

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Any news on when the Kamorta will be commissioned? I know the Kolkata class is having some issues but what happened to the Kamorta? 8 years+ to build a 3000 ton ship...

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-taking-steps-to-fully-recover-bank-guarantees-in-VVIP-chopper-scam/articleshow/35594339.cms The rubber hits the road, we are getting back our money by encashing the AWIL bank guarantees. Wonder when the 3 AW-101's in India will have to be returned to AW...

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Been hanging around BR for nearly 8+ yrs now (just read) but strange how *most* of the long time posters here always push their country loyalty (Russia, US, France) in all topics they post in. Very Strange.

Mods-Please feel free to delete my post if it is OT.

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One data point that might be useful in this thread is how much did the Liaoning refurbishment cost the Chinese?

It might not be available but would serve as a good data point to understand whether we were robbed, over-charged or we got a deal.

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@Viv S - When you compare ships with 50% tonnage difference and say their "aircraft complement do not differ much", please provide numbers. The Cavour carries 20 Harriers at max or 15 F-35's, while the Vik carries 34 Mig 29K's (if carrying only fighters). India would need 2 Cavours to carr...

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Snooping on Aircraft carriers/Navy ships is pretty common, everyone does it. I would not be surprised if we discover that a couple of subs were following it during its trials. Or the fact that Paki submarines would try to snoop on Vikramaditya on its way back/when it goes out to sea. And Hitesh-Russ...

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Hmmm...have been reading the LCA forum everyday after Avinash Chander's high profile LCA commitments/Bangalore visits last month but zero updates on the LCA progress, especially on the leaking radome, AoA limits extension and the series production hiccups at HAL. Other than updates on number of flig...

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^^ i think this article on suspension of AMCA is an one article wonder and this is something not to be taken seriously unless we hear something concrete from the PIB or the Saint himself, since a decision of this magnitude will not be taken by a low ranking bureaucrat. The author uses very slippery ...

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I keep reading that Tatra trucks cost 1 crore each and they sell for 50-60% less in Europe. Having stayed in Britain and continental Europe, this is not something i agree with. The place where I bought my used car from also had a sister truck dealership in UK and i happened to check the prices stuck...

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While I understand that Mirage 2000's are excellent aircraft, but paying 350 crores a piece for refurbishing them WITHOUT an AESA radar sounds downright stupid. Let us consider the options we have today- 1. New SU-35 BM with AESA radars and numerous improvements over SU-30 MKI (Radar cross section, ...

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51 Million Euros paid by AW. 30 Million went to Christian Michel James (UK). 20 Million went to Ralph Haschke & Carlo Gerosa (Swiss) 0.1 Million went to T3 Brothers( Copyright acknowledge) My question is- Why are we concentrating on the 0.1 Million only? 98% of the money has gone to Michel James...

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Simply stunning viewpoints posted by many experts here. But the question here is very simple-Who took the money? The answer is also very simple-Follow the money. AW paid 51 Million Euros. We know how the money was sent-routed through Tunisia and camouflaged as payments for software services and came...

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@Indranil Roy I do not have enough military knowledge of the F-35 to proclaim its effectiveness vis-a-vis the Rafale. But I am from the world of finance and i work for a Top 5 US Bank in the US and i can tell you for a fact that UAE, Kuwait and Qatar can pretty much afford anything they want, if the...

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So now that HAL has delivered LSP-8, does it give a vacation to its workers for a year and then come back next year to make LSP-9 based on IAF feedback of hot/cold/hot & cold/wet/cold & wet/hot & wet/hot cold & wet/night/hot cold & night/cold & night weather trials. Oh wait, ...

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^^^+1 Abhik Rafale CANNOT be procured in numbers aka like the Su-30 MKI. I am sure it is a more capable bird, but if any expert can throw some light as to how much performance we are sacrificing between the MKI and the Rafale and the cost difference between the two. What is public knowledge is that ...

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So, taking stock of the PAK FA programme today, we have 4 PAK FA prototypes in the air, and the aircraft is very near to the final configuration for the Russians. Given the fact that the changes between the PAK FA & the FGFA are mostly electronic {see link below for a detailed analysis of the di...

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^^ The costing explanation details for the follow-on order of 42 Super Sukhois had been earlier posted by someone in BR in great detail. There are basically two components of this $3.77 Billion. One is the actual cost of $1.61 Billion for the 42 Super SU-30 MKI kits, which will be assembled by HAL. ...

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^^^Wiki lists the Steregushchy class corvette (2200 tons displacement) costing $120-$150 M/ship with a armament and sensor suite below- Sensors and processing systems: Air search radar: Furke-E 3D, E/F band Surface search radar: Granit Central Scientific Institute Garpun-B/3Ts-25E/PLANK SHAVE radar ...

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@Titash The release from the Office of the Navy Chief reads "monitoring sea lines of communication, defence of offshore oil installations and other critical offshore national assets, the release said." as the Saryu class ships primary responsibilities. Do you really need radar signature re...

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The Saryu class are 2200 tons,105M stealth (or atleast radar signature reduced) shaped ships. The propulsion systems are good enough for a respectable 25+ knots sustained speed. But they are tasked as patrol vessels and armed with a 76mm gun. With a 6000nm range, where are they going to patrol? Mumb...

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324 mm TT would really NOT add up to any significant ASW capability, range and warhead on the 324mm TT would put them more as a defensive platform than an offensive one. We need 533 mm TT's on them, they carry a serious punch, have a 50km range and require marginally more space than 324mm TT's. Also...

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^^ Forget the Argumentative Indian. It is more like the Jugaadu Indian. Sanku wasted no time in dismissing Shukla to Kingdom come when supporting the T-90 and blasting the Arjun. NOW, he quotes Shukla as "excellent" as there what Shukla says is "useful" to his agenda. Cross posti...

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Any update on Astra? The last test of this missile was on May 20, 2011 and that was just a ballistic flight test.

19 months without a flight test? Has this gone the IJT way?

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This is not meant to be a personal attack on Sanku or Sagar, you guys in a tiny sense, are DRDO and IA. The debate between Sanku and Sagar provided me a glimpse as to why IA is un-willing to buy an indigenous platform and improve it but buy a readymade pack of sh$% and keep spending on it and coveri...

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The figure of $1.5 Billion for 48 Su-35's is hopelessly wrong. The only other sale the Su-35 has notched was for Mother Russia. http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090818/155847516.html 48 Su-35's, 12 Su-30 and 4 Su-27's were sold for $2.5 Billion in 2009. No way, in 2012, 48 Su-35's will be sold for $1.5 Bi...

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There is a significant learning from this news of the IAC-1 costing Rs 18,000 crores too. Years ago, a Navy Chief (Sureesh Mehta?) offered a $2 Billion cheque for a Aircraft carrier when Gorshkov price was hiked to $2.3 Billion from the initial $700 Million, when journos questioned him on the wisdom...

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Slightly OT here, but any news on the number of T-90's inducted into IA?

wikipedia lists the number of T-90's in IA as 620 but this is dated back to Aug 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-90

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This might be off-topic here but i find that there are numerous references to the way "the French scre*** us with the Scorpenes". The Scorpene deal had 3 components- License cost, Imported systems/components cost and Cost of manufacture at MDL. At the time the initial contract was drafted,...

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@Jaeger Ahhh...Classic Ultra Milds, Loved that brand...don't get Milds like that here in US. And all the good milds here are menthols :-( I totally agree that 1. The guidance radar and the 2. Placement of VLS is not visible in the models and the 324 mm torpedoes is not a good offensive weapon. The u...

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@Abhi_J and others on the P-28 Armament fit. Slight correction on the P-28 Armament fit, it includes a 8X vertically launched Klub N module. Somehow, it was missed in the posts above. @Jaeger NO AShW or ASW strike weapons? With 2 RBU-6000 rocket launchers and 2X3 Torpedo tubes for ASW and a 8 tube K...

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@rajanb Having worked at HAL, Bangalore for a considerable amount of time in the early 2000's, i would choose ineptitude as the reason. I do not know if things have changed, but just to quote a couple of instances, a Rs 8 lakh imported autoclave (an instrument that was invented to sterilize/heat up ...

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@Singha Good attempt to summarize, but few corrections below- 1. All SU-30MKI displays come from SAMTEL since late 2010/early 2011, made at their factory in Madhya Pradesh (forgot the name of the place) 2. BARS front end is made & assembled at Hyderabad (agree with pragnya) 3. In addition, as of...

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The IN originally hoped to get the Vikramaditya for free (only the cost of refurbishment, estimated at $700 MM originally) and ordered 16 Mig 29K for $750MM. Since then, the cost of Vikram has risen to $2300 MM ($2.3 Billion). It is fair to say that if in 2004 (they year the original deal was signed...

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Seems to me that Gen VKS was the proverbial "sand in the sandwich" which stopped the usual greasing going around-arms lobbies making money by selling sub-standard equipment, BEML selling sh*t at gold prices, corrupt army folks selling govt land. The lobbyists started hitting back-someone b...

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I am newbie and apologize if this is a stupid question. India paid for 16 Mig-29K and apparently, we got 15 (Koti's link) because 1 crashed in Russia with loss of Russian pilots (RIP). Does this mean that India will get another aircraft from Russia to replace this or we have to pay for the crashed a...

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+1 M777 range with normal ammo is 24 Km and with base bleed ammo 30 Km. Given this, the 18 km range of the 105 LFG range is very acceptable. Taking into consideration the cost, availability and numbers in which the 105 LFG can be procured vis-a-vis the M777, i am totally with the Army to order the 1...

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