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by member_23455
17 Mar 2014 21:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Please note that in both these cases the SSK cannot prosecute a carrier unless the carrier blunders in to it's range . The minute a SSK starts it's diesel engine (to either snorkel or catch up with the carrier) it is game over for it as a SSN or other ship based defences of the CBG will 'see' it fr...
by member_23455
17 Mar 2014 21:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Keeping away from getting too deep into the diesel sub vs SSN debate, it is pertinent to note the scenario I am talking about. I have clearly mentioned that the carrier is going to be at least ~850 kms away from the coast at any point. It will be in blue waters. It will have to stay away from coast...
by member_23455
17 Mar 2014 17:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

I think he said in blue waters. In littorals the SSN may not have the advantage, but surely it will in open ocean/blue waters given equal sensor capabilities? 1. So are we having an abstract discussion around "blue waters" or taking a closer look at the marine topography wrt the Chinese a...
by member_23455
17 Mar 2014 12:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

@RajitO A CBGs surface ASW is completely independent of the presence of a friendly SSN. "Surface" ASW is a new concept for me so I'll need some educating. Especially since the bulk of the fixed wing "airborne" ASW (closely co-ordinated with surface ships) is also currently not o...
by member_23455
14 Mar 2014 10:05
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

I am not all that worried about the lack of a CIWS currently. The carrier has a good two years to go before its completely operational with a trained airwing and P-15A escorts with LRSAMS . The CIWS will be installed by then, The VIK does not have to undergo a major refit for this. What is MOST wor...
by member_23455
14 Mar 2014 09:47
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 148146

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Based on the IamA by the american naval officer, I would be happy if we can initiate an objective discussion on training in the Indian Navy. The training for IAF and IA is known to a much better extent as compared to the Navy. I am completely a lay person as far as affairs of the Indian Navy are co...
by member_23455
16 Feb 2014 14:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 142047

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

RajitO, My posts are simple if you can follow the laws of physics and not from a brochure (please do click the link to check). Chinook cannot carry the M777 internally or externally at 10,000 feet. Period. I did not say anything more or less. If you can come up with facts and figures, we can discus...
by member_23455
16 Feb 2014 09:59
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 142047

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

Wow! A barrage of posts on the Chinook and the M777 - illustrating yet again why Brochuritis on BR threads tends to substitute critical thinking , and a rather bemusing lack of knowledge about warfare : 1. Brochure X, Specification Y, mentions that Chinook can't carry the M777 above 4-5,000 feet, th...
by member_23455
15 Feb 2014 12:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

rkhanna wrote:^^^ not to be a killjoy but do we need to put the operators mugshot up for the world to see?


:roll:

You aren't being a killjoy, just ignorant, do trace the source of the image and you will see who has approved it for release.
by member_23455
15 Feb 2014 08:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Image

Captain Mahabir Singh - 9 Para (SF) team leader who took out the fidayeen that attacked 16 Cavalry.

9 Para's enjoyed some good hunting in Kashmir over the years...
by member_23455
13 Feb 2014 22:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 148146

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Aegis used separate round dish radars called SPS to direct inflight missiles . you can see them atop the wheelhouse and back behind the funnel. the SPY1 is for detectio and tracking. Incorrect. The "SPS" radar is the AN/SPS-49 which is an air search radar. It is technically not part of th...
by member_23455
11 Feb 2014 14:05
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: Artillery: News & Discussion
Replies: 4827
Views: 711540

Re: Artillery Discussion Thread

A blast from the past... Gaur Post subject: Re: Artillery Discussion ThreadPostPosted: 26 May 2012 21:21 Re artillery acquisition, Gen VK Singh has himself stated in an NDTV interview (Feb 2011) that IA has been more at fault in this case. He said that if IA keeps on changing requirements and keeps ...
by member_23455
10 Feb 2014 08:31
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

I cant find any source at the moment, but calling in the Indian Army requires the state administration to declare an area as "Disturbed", if not invoke AFSPA altogether. This applies not only to terror strikes but also for riots, floods etc. Calling in CRPF, RAF and NSG does not require t...
by member_23455
08 Feb 2014 07:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

all these are completely different... Let me surmise .. Indian navy pilots have been flying the MIG29K from INS Hansa using the regular runway They hve not yet flown (as of the article) it from the SBTF, only Russi pilot did it. Russin Pilots have been flying off Vikramaditya, landing etc but not a...
by member_23455
07 Feb 2014 10:59
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

You mean the same NSG that has been headed since inception by IPS officers? It might be useful to reflect on the calibre of some of the Army types who have been in charge of NSG ops as well. (hint:Akshardham) As has been belabored earlier, the nature of the game requires extraordinary types...the or...
by member_23455
07 Feb 2014 09:13
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Rahul M wrote:no one talked of NSG 'under' local police. that is simply an impossible scenario in India's admin structure.


Ironically, NSG's most famous op Black Thunder II was under the supervision of KPS Gill.
by member_23455
07 Feb 2014 09:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Fear something like this could happen to the SF as well. an SF team should have HRT as a secondary skill . It should not be their primary tasking. Other skills such as long range non urban shooting, LRRP, etc will start to diminish. Ironically, the way terrorism is evolving, conventional hostage re...
by member_23455
06 Feb 2014 11:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

As long as no gunfire is ever exchanged, this will simply continue. It will be fait accompli on the ground. The PLA hadn't fought for decades because their entire philosophy under Sun Tzu is to win without fighting. A real war with Japan would change all of that. It is in our interest to encourage ...
by member_23455
06 Feb 2014 09:07
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

RajitO - your points fall under the category of professional's approach to problem solving as I outlined earlier. What you're asking for is a more in-depth analysis of situation along with a structure which can handle maximum/most threatening of gamed scenarios. However, as I said earlier, this is ...
by member_23455
06 Feb 2014 07:38
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Who was this Para SF turned Khalistani terrorist? :-? The timeline IIRC is late 80s, unfortunately before the internet, so doubt if there is a link to it. At that time a very publicized operation, because it happened in a built-up area, in broad daylight, and notable because despite the NSG being a...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 20:00
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

Please read Chanakya. I spoke to him, He told me to tell you that that quote about Japan and Germany being the only two truly martial nations was epic . Both fought on the same side in WWII and lost to an alliance, comprising peasants, grocers, and dhoti shiverers. Chankaya's words, not mine. :)
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 19:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

3. Something-is-better-than-nothing - Common man and I daresay, commonsense response. If yellow matter hits the fan, there is 'SOMEONE' and 'SOMETHING' to handle the situation; we're not nude and all that stuff. Some good might still come from this half-baked effort by Indian babucracy. I want (1) ...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 18:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

10 Para (SF) with Southern or South Western? If there has been a change, the "desert heritage" part will be kissed goodbye for good! 10 Para (SF) continues to be in their historical location in Jodhpur - so I doubt it would be with SW Command. Should still be with Southern Command. Which ...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 12:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

More importantly, How are regional hubs a lousy idea? Keeping in mind that most state governments cannot fund/raise own units on their own.... Did I say most state governments should fund them? Regional Hubs are an "impractical idea". Reasons stated above and elsewhere, by a few folks!
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 12:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

umm...How so, Southern Command still has large tracts of desert in its AoR :-? Sure, I was referring more to the paltan's heritage and recruitment from Rajasthan in particular, including its most famous Royal! Thought once they made South Western Command's HQ Jaipur they would put these folks under...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 11:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

I think 9 and 4 Para are with Northern Command, 1 Para with Western Command, 3 Para with South Western Command, 2 and 10 Para with Southern Command and 11 & 21 Para with Eastern Command. 10 Para (SF) with Southern or South Western? If there has been a change, the "desert heritage" par...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 11:53
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

But do we have the trained manpower needed to build the different hubs for Nsg type forces in 4 metros. The more important question is, that given the way Indian economy is developing. A lot of tier 2 and 3 cities will develop over the next 10 years or so. They will all need a dedicated qrt in the ...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 11:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Ideal situation would be to replicate Manesar level facilities in regional hubs to ensure the adequacy of infrastructure for constant training+practice So, you have answered your own question. From a "uniquely Indian" understanding of how we work and our systems, why embark on an exercise...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 10:06
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Discussion on Indian Special Forces
Replies: 4039
Views: 690103

Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

some sort of quick reaction capability is built-in with IA Special Forces along with dedicated training module(s) in urban counter terrorism. ...and unfortunately this very real need - especially now that you have active shooter threats rather than "conventional hostage taking" increasing...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 09:41
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

Secondly, it would weaken East Asia as an investment attraction and also push over time global manufacturing from the Far East to the Indian subcontinent. I see, so after all the warrior/peasant/martial nation business, it's really the pursuit of money that is the real agenda. And if the Chinese pu...
by member_23455
04 Feb 2014 09:16
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion
Replies: 1517
Views: 94568

Re: INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

Jhujar wrote:I was under the impression, few of Navy pilots were being trained in Florida.


...NAS Whiting Field and Pensacola were used for training the newbies. A couple of senior pilots, including Surendra Ahuja also did their CQ on the Goshawk. But that's all 4-5 years back.
by member_23455
03 Feb 2014 16:10
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 148146

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

sarkar wrote:
Never knew Indonesia had these bigger ambitions. A hidden desire.


In the 1980s the army and the navy had embarked on major amphib exercises off Andamans aimed at a) Developing contingencies for Sri Lanks b) Sending a warning to the Indonesians about any Falkands type misadventure.
by member_23455
03 Feb 2014 12:23
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 148146

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

Another Torpedo-ed

Groundings, collisions, zipper failure - We are giving the USN a real run for its money these days.
by member_23455
03 Feb 2014 07:21
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

[ This is how wars start... Why? Because the chinis know they have a sh1tty military and would be annihilated were it to come down to war against any of the US-backed militaries -- Taiwan, South Korea and definitely Japan. With all the the single child little Emperors, the appetite for fighting any...
by member_23455
02 Feb 2014 15:56
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

Can you arm chair strategists structure/argue your grand plans in the political forum? I would like to see something about Chinese military hardware in this thread, not some LoL strategy/geopolitics It is a thread in the "Military Issues and History Forum" titled China Military Watch - wh...
by member_23455
01 Feb 2014 10:22
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Naval News & Discussion - 12 Oct 2013
Replies: 4029
Views: 148146

Re: Indian Naval Discussion

I understand.. but is the facility created with near real conditions to validate success? so, IOW, what is the success criteria? Hmmm...I think you may be barking up the wrong tree on this one if the fundamental assumption in your thinking is that the SBTF is a simulator for a carrier landing. If n...
by member_23455
01 Feb 2014 08:49
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

China has a far longer land border, especially vis-a-vis its maritime borders, compared to India. A far smaller section of the Chinese land borders is protected by the Himalayas as well. That India lost a border war across the Himalayas in 1962 shows how absurdly ill-prepared and arrogant Nehru was...
by member_23455
31 Jan 2014 18:09
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

China is playing chicken with the US military in the South China Sea As anyone who has seen “Rebel Without a Cause” knows, playing chicken is dangerous for California teenagers in hot-rods. But playing chicken with warships, cruisers, and fighter jets — well, that’s just another level of crazy. Act...
by member_23455
31 Jan 2014 11:52
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013
Replies: 3967
Views: 142047

Re: Indian Military Aviation- September 29 2013

As Sagar ji is MIA... Après moi le déluge I am not too sure, but the US-2 is a *plain* plane. I doubt if it has "EW kit, RWR/MAWS". India, I would think, would install it on her own. That is: a) To expedite Japan's own restrictive red tape when it comes to export of "military" h...
by member_23455
31 Jan 2014 11:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011
Replies: 6593
Views: 621302

Re: China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

1) What's the spending breakdown of the Indian military? I seem to recall it being very heavily skewed toward the land forces, which was surprising to me given the abundance of Indian shores vs. land borders, especially when considering that most of the land borders are protected by the best natura...

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