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by KLP Dubey
11 Jun 2014 15:35
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Anyway, the word used for cows is 'go'. The word 'go' represents any object that has the property of 'moving'. I think the english word 'go' also has its origin in this Vaidhik word 'go'. So, any object that moves is called 'go'. Generally, several objects were called 'go' by the ancients. In Vedha...
by KLP Dubey
11 Jun 2014 01:11
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: Discussion on Indian Epics, Texts, Treatises & Kathas
Replies: 4574
Views: 554429

Re: Discussion on Indian Epics, Texts, Treatises & Kathas

A correction: I did not assert that the Rgveda sounds are "divine". The sounds are eternal, and are not the product of any agency whether human or divine. Per Vedas Eternal=Divine because Divine = Satyam, Anantam, Jnanam (ultimate reality, eternal & knowledge). When we say something i...
by KLP Dubey
10 Jun 2014 16:14
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Most archaeology consists of digging up a piece of clay with a notch on it, and building up a whole civilization and "history" around it. These ppl claim forensic skills beyond those of any forensic pathologist, but I have my doubts. Their history education after all, comes from the histo...
by KLP Dubey
10 Jun 2014 16:06
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Orthodox vedic pandits do not give a 'damn' for modern Indian nationalism.They are not against it,but do not give a damn to it.And modern indian nationalists,for the most part,have zero formal training in vedic paatashalas or from a vedic pandit. This is a patently false statement. Vedic pandits ar...
by KLP Dubey
09 Jun 2014 06:02
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

The Manthras and rituals of Vedhas seem to represent exactly this thinking. It seems that the ancient people(and many modern people also) use these Manthras for their 'magical' properties. The belief is that if these manthras are chanted, then it results in certain things. Ex: one can chant a Manth...
by KLP Dubey
09 Jun 2014 05:36
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

On Words, sounds in the Vedas and their eternal nature: Words were important, not sounds, because according to Jaimini, words are eternal not sounds. Thanks for posting that excerpt from Ganganath Jha's commentary on Purvamimamsa. Audible sounds are obviously not eternal, as stated already in Jaimi...
by KLP Dubey
08 Jun 2014 19:03
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Can someone post here the exact content (beginning 10 lines) of the Rg Veda? No explanations, just the content. The content cannot be "posted" since Veda "written in a script" has no meaning to it. The entire Rgveda is available in recorded form online (albeit with a few defects...
by KLP Dubey
06 Jun 2014 23:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

So are you suggesting that the sounds would exist whether or not humans exist, and that humans have taken these sounds and joined them into syllables and words to give "meaning" to things? Yes, these indestructible and fixed patterns/Sounds/Words exist independently. At some point they ca...
by KLP Dubey
06 Jun 2014 23:25
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

So as I hear it (same as a yak hearing Lata Mangeshkar or "reading" printed Kalidasa verse): 1. The ACTUAL content of the Rg Veda (who has the original I wonder...) is a bunch of sounds, passed down orally through the ages with the order: This is Sruti: what I heard. Pass it down EXACTLY ...
by KLP Dubey
06 Jun 2014 08:17
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

ramana wrote:I was flummoxed by Dubeyji's assertion about Rg Veda being compilation of divine sounds. The same is ennunciated by Pravachanam gurus.
A correction: I did not assert that the Rgveda sounds are "divine". The sounds are eternal, and are not the product of any agency whether human or divine.
by KLP Dubey
06 Jun 2014 05:51
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

Dubey-ji I also ask seriously ...if AIT says outside and OIT says indigenous, then what have you against indigenous == IV and people settled in other parts of the sub-continent. I have nothing against indigenous origins of Sanskritic culture. I believe that is very much correct, and I have said as ...
by KLP Dubey
06 Jun 2014 02:33
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

I was asking a serious question. The Indian siddhanta does not consider Veda to be "a document containing distilled wisdom of knowledge from previous ages". Oh! Very interesting. And hu is Indian Sid d'Hanta and where/when did he say this pls? JOUC, have you tried reciting the Encyclopaed...
by KLP Dubey
06 Jun 2014 02:19
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

So what knowledge is in the Rgveda ? The knowledge that Indra rescued 60,000 cows to release floodwaters. Don't believe me? Ask Griffiths. Well, if you believe that "Vedic Sanskrit" existed as a language "before the Vedas were composed", and the "meanings" of the words...
by KLP Dubey
05 Jun 2014 15:20
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

UlanBatori wrote:
So what knowledge is in the Rgveda ?
A chance to give a 1-line reply to THAT question :mrgreen: Summary of lessons from Eternity b4?
Seems like this thread has got a new lease of life from yet another series of wet-dream posts.
by KLP Dubey
05 Jun 2014 03:34
Forum: Trash Can Archive
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth
Replies: 8372
Views: 1084157

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth

UB - it could be still true that these were compiled along banks of Saraswati/Sindu if we consider it as continuous evolution from Indus-valley civilization(Harrappa/Mohenjodaro,Lothal etc). The knowledge seekers and providers could/would have come from all over the subcontinent. So what knowledge ...
by KLP Dubey
25 May 2014 22:09
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
Replies: 40179
Views: 4107156

Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

NaMo-vaadies hope that NaMo's method of giving away a big chunk of Indian economy to Japanese-elitemen will save us from onslaught of American-elitemen and Missionaries. So please see wiki page of Japan's deputy-PM, and please tell fellow BRites what you notice. Hint : you might see the same thing ...
by KLP Dubey
25 May 2014 13:08
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
Replies: 40179
Views: 4107156

Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

RajeshA wrote: At least Robber Vadra should be subjected to deep cavity checks every time he goes through Indian airports.
I would prefer if Vadra was subjected to something that he wouldn't actually enjoy.
by KLP Dubey
21 May 2014 13:57
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread
Replies: 4038
Views: 241062

Re: General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread

I do not think that Kiran Bedi should be made BJP CM candidate. I believe harshvardhan would be much better bet. Making her now is an insult to all those who worked through decades under the BJP flag. Sorry, IAS/IPS does not confer any one with wings. +1008. Harshvardhan is a much better bet. This ...
by KLP Dubey
17 May 2014 12:11
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread
Replies: 4038
Views: 241062

Re: General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread

Absolutely wonderful result. A resounding slap to anti-nationals, external forces, fundamentalists, caste-baiters, and most of all to the Trash Dynasty. A great campaign by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his associates most notably the great Amit Shah (of "I-shafted-the-Moongoons-and-Congoon...
by KLP Dubey
16 May 2014 11:37
Forum: History & Current Affairs Archive
Topic: General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread
Replies: 4038
Views: 241062

Re: General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread

Boys this is a great result. I am having a great time in LKO enjoying it.

As for predictions, I told correctly only :) :)

Will join in more detail later. Still hoping Tharoor loses.

KL
by KLP Dubey
14 May 2014 09:44
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

abhischekcc wrote:Why Argentina? Are we planning to take over Falklands in a joint operation? :mrgreen:
More likely tell them to take over the "pink revolution" since we do not need it in India.
by KLP Dubey
14 May 2014 00:16
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 20717
Views: 2083602

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

If only something similar would happen to Kerala! But I am beginning to lose hope of Kerala ever stepping out of the vicious Cong-Commie swap cycle, and I am afraid that Hindus of Malabar are likely to share the fate of the Kashmiri Pandits. This is a classic case of foreign interference destabiliz...
by KLP Dubey
13 May 2014 06:52
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: BRF GJP Trial-2: How many seats will UPA win?
Replies: 146
Views: 50683

Re: BRF GJP Trial-2: How many seats will UPA win?

Post poll: 50 30 20 0 0 0 0
UPA: 100
by KLP Dubey
13 May 2014 06:49
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: BRF GJP Trial Poll-1: How many seats will NDA win?
Replies: 426
Views: 130222

Re: BRF GJP Trial Poll-1: How many seats will NDA win?

Post poll: 0 0 0 0 0 25 75
NDA: 310
by KLP Dubey
13 May 2014 06:40
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

For the 340 being a crazy idea, just one question? what happence if there is a great mobilisation of Hindu votes in any any elections in favour of one party? Just like rajiv after 1984. He had Muslim votes also at that time with no serious opposition. Now if there is a solid Hindu mobilisation in f...
by KLP Dubey
13 May 2014 05:47
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Moderator Note Thread derailment with constant EVM magic conspiracy theory mongering will lead to this thread being locked. Everyone's anxiously waiting for the actual results. That's not an excuse for people to worsen moderator workload with unsubstantiated loose talk. Please keep this thread focu...
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 22:37
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

muraliravi wrote:I will also caution against using timesnow numbers on Assam, impossible to imagine BJP getting 8 of the 14. Surely cong will do much better.
Somebody on the ground in Assam had posted at the time that it would be 8/14.
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 20:34
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Latest NDA projections

TimesNow/ORG: 249
Chanakya: 340
AajTak: 272-283
IndiaTV/Cvoter: 289
5forty3.in: 300 (his Phase 9 projections not out yet, but a good guess)
ABP Nielsen: 281
CSDS/CNN-IBN: 270-282

Who else ?
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 20:29
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

Latest NDA projections

TimesNow: 249
Chanakya: 340
AajTak: 272-283
IndiaTV/Cvoter: 289
5forty3.in: 300+ (his last Phase projections not out yet, but a good guess)
ABP Nielsen: 281

Who else ?
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 20:23
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

ABP Nielsen has almost finished its projections. So far NDA = 281 out of 529.
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 20:13
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

NDA projections

TimesNow: 249
Chanakya: 340
AajTak: 272-283
IndiaTV/Cvoter: 289
5forty3.in: 300+ (his last Phase projections not out yet, but a good guess)

Who else ?
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 20:04
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

What is there to sell out in an exit poll? It will not affect the results or further voting. Also it is only channel's reputation which is going to be on the line. For projecting a rosy image for 3 days will someone pay to get exit polls cooked? Exactly. I think these guys are just following throug...
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 19:57
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 1158
Views: 406232

Re: Exit Polls & Discussion 2014 Elections

either timesnow is totally sold out or EVM magic is underway in Raj But the exit poll data would have little to do with EVM tampering. Most likely their data collection is flawed or they are cooking numbers (i.e. sold out to anti-NDA forces). I have stopped looking at TimesNow, since we know their ...
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 10:50
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 20717
Views: 2083602

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Arjun wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:
Amit Shah is a good candidate for this post :wink: - he's a Jain. He understands minorities VERY well.
NaMo and Amit Shah - "Me Tarzan, you Jain" :D :D
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 09:41
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
Replies: 40179
Views: 4107156

Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Ajai Rai 's deliberate violation looks either stupid or sinister. Stupid because it looks like an act of a bad loser who knows the outcome. Sinister because he could be made a sacrificial lamb by stooge EC before acting on BJP . Smithi Irani could be taken down after this. According to a trusted 'd...
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 08:01
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 20717
Views: 2083602

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

SwamyG wrote:He has bad mouthed Modi so much, I wonder how TMC can be part of NDA.
TMC should be systematically run into the ground by NaMo, Amit Shah, and Co. after the election.
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 07:40
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 20717
Views: 2083602

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

(Ganpat) Rai is having his 15 minutes of fame on the TV channels this morning.

Derelikt O'Brien declaring TMC will be the third largest party in LS. In fact I wish they become the second largest :rotfl:
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 06:44
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 5848
Views: 607461

Re: AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

ragha.batluri wrote:njr was cremated, video below
So were Maimuna Begum and Roberto Gandhi. Don't mean nuthin'. Just a charade to dupe the Indian public.
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 06:24
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections
Replies: 20717
Views: 2083602

Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

The shock will only be if UP instead of 45 gives 60, Bihar gives 30, Maha gives 22. Then NDA = BJP(272)+..... Muppala garu... Just remember that you are yet to give me what BJP should do to get 272+ Arre yaar sab ko pataa hai 272 tak pahunchne ke liye ka hona hai. Abhi bees-pachees baar BR phorum m...
by KLP Dubey
12 May 2014 06:09
Forum: BR Nostalgia Archive
Topic: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
Replies: 40179
Views: 4107156

Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Anantha wrote:you tube link for the ek chatur naar
Hilarious! Loved the "bhagoda" reference too...useless fellow Khujliwal.